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THIS is why people get turned off God and christians. How they are sickened by religion.

 
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I am sorry but you make no sense at all. None! Does anyone else understand what she means so that I may reply?

Just to clarify for you- I am calling all religions wrong. They are fear based and you my friend are the one with the fear.

Neither me nor the OP are afraid of Hell.
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OP, this is it.

This is your pathetic purpose for existence.

Sad.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44823536


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And thats why christians sneer and condemn and look down on others. Tyring to constantly please this god of death and doom, and cursing anyone who says he is a God of mercy whos love CANNOT fail.

They take the LOVE of God and turn it into blackmail and hate.

They twist the scriptures below to conform to their darkness..

They totally forget that..

God IS love.

Its NOT an ATTRIBUTE of his..its what HE ACTAULLY IS!!!!!!

1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the LOVE that GOD ACTUALLY IS???


1Co 13:4 LOVE suffereth long, and is kind; LOVE envieth not; LOVE vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

1Co 13:8 LOVE never faileth:

But to hear most christians preach..they TWIST it to mean...

1Jn 4:8 He that condemeth others not to hell knoweth not God; for God is JUSTICE and REVENGE.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the JUSTICE and RAGE that God hath to us. God is JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE; and he that dwelleth in JUSTICE and etrnal SPITE dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE that GOD ACTUALLY IS according to how they preach it???


1Co 13:4 JUSTICE and RAGE suffereth NOTHING, and is unkind; JUSTICE and RAGE envieth all things; JUSTICE and RAGE vaunteth itself and DEMANDS worship on pain of ETERNAL TORURE, and is INCREDIBLY puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth behave itself unseemly, seeketh always its own, easily provoked, thinketh eternal evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth in iniquity, but rejoiceth NOT in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Burneth all things, condemneth all things, hopeth all things burn, endureth nothing.

1Co 13:8 And LOVE??? well..it ALWAYS faileth:

They teach that there will be an antichrist who will be possessed by satan and that he will threaten everyone with death and torture if they dont take his mark.

Dont worship him and you starve to death and/or get tortured and beheadded.

Thats rather sinister, but thats what Satan is all about isnt he? Force and threats and always wanting to be worshipped.


Now they also teach that God will place his mark on his peoples forheads as well. And those who dont take it will be killed and tortured forever without end.

Thats dark and sinister as well and is even worse than what satan planned to do.

So whos the bigger tyrant and dictator?

God or satan??

They both sell their product the same way.

Either they are the same being and both doctrines came from the one place of darkness or God is actually Good and satan has just shat all over his name which is "Good" by propogating a doctrine that makes God out to be a billion times worse that he himself is.

So someone somewhere has lied.


God cannot be a monster like satan is.

Its impossible.

Satan is hate and revenge and force and therefore evil.

Its black and white.

Good and evil.

Jesus defined "Good".

The opposite is evil.


Mat 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

This^^^^is "Good"

Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

This is what christians preach^^^

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

This^^^is "Good" and shows patience and love.

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

He Loves both the good and the evil and makes no discrimination in how he treats them. Its is the essence of "Good"


Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

This is what christians do. The hang around eachother patting eachother on the back at how "Holy" they think they are but curse and hate and condemn everyone else all the time. That is "Evil"

Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

As I said above its "Evil"

Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

So perfect must not mean quoting scriptures or being all self rightous as they do but it means not being an asshole to everyone else.

Because Gods not an monster.

But they twist every scripture about his LOVE that NEVER FAILS to make him into one..

Like this..

What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of a small fraction of the nations; and some of the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.


And What the word actually SAYS

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall about 10% of mankind be made alive.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of just a few men, and only of those that believe.

And What the word actually SAYS

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And what they actually TEACH..

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away...except in hell where screaming and pain and tears and death will continue quite happily for eternity.

And What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up 10% of death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off about 10% of faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off a bit of the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And What the word actually SAYS

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw about 10% of men unto me.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and for our's only, but not for the sins of the whole world.


And What the word actually SAYS


John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of part of the world.
.

Took a fair bit of twisting of scripture to make them say the OPPOSITE of whats there...but most christians should not have a problem with it because its what they EXACTLY teach..


(Feel free to facebook this to everyone you know...print it out and scatter it in church carparks..let the TRUTH about how they have all been LIED to be known...because the FAKE CHUCH IS FALLING)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46344121


may the horn of brevity smash the wall of text before me.

reagan smash..


only the song of silence soothes every soul.
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OP, this is it.

This is your pathetic purpose for existence.

Sad.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44823536


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And thats why christians sneer and condemn and look down on others. Tyring to constantly please this god of death and doom, and cursing anyone who says he is a God of mercy whos love CANNOT fail.

They take the LOVE of God and turn it into blackmail and hate.

They twist the scriptures below to conform to their darkness..

They totally forget that..

God IS love.

Its NOT an ATTRIBUTE of his..its what HE ACTAULLY IS!!!!!!

1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the LOVE that GOD ACTUALLY IS???


1Co 13:4 LOVE suffereth long, and is kind; LOVE envieth not; LOVE vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

1Co 13:8 LOVE never faileth:

But to hear most christians preach..they TWIST it to mean...

1Jn 4:8 He that condemeth others not to hell knoweth not God; for God is JUSTICE and REVENGE.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the JUSTICE and RAGE that God hath to us. God is JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE; and he that dwelleth in JUSTICE and etrnal SPITE dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE that GOD ACTUALLY IS according to how they preach it???


1Co 13:4 JUSTICE and RAGE suffereth NOTHING, and is unkind; JUSTICE and RAGE envieth all things; JUSTICE and RAGE vaunteth itself and DEMANDS worship on pain of ETERNAL TORURE, and is INCREDIBLY puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth behave itself unseemly, seeketh always its own, easily provoked, thinketh eternal evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth in iniquity, but rejoiceth NOT in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Burneth all things, condemneth all things, hopeth all things burn, endureth nothing.

1Co 13:8 And LOVE??? well..it ALWAYS faileth:

They teach that there will be an antichrist who will be possessed by satan and that he will threaten everyone with death and torture if they dont take his mark.

Dont worship him and you starve to death and/or get tortured and beheadded.

Thats rather sinister, but thats what Satan is all about isnt he? Force and threats and always wanting to be worshipped.


Now they also teach that God will place his mark on his peoples forheads as well. And those who dont take it will be killed and tortured forever without end.

Thats dark and sinister as well and is even worse than what satan planned to do.

So whos the bigger tyrant and dictator?

God or satan??

They both sell their product the same way.

Either they are the same being and both doctrines came from the one place of darkness or God is actually Good and satan has just shat all over his name which is "Good" by propogating a doctrine that makes God out to be a billion times worse that he himself is.

So someone somewhere has lied.


God cannot be a monster like satan is.

Its impossible.

Satan is hate and revenge and force and therefore evil.

Its black and white.

Good and evil.

Jesus defined "Good".

The opposite is evil.


Mat 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

This^^^^is "Good"

Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

This is what christians preach^^^

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

This^^^is "Good" and shows patience and love.

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

He Loves both the good and the evil and makes no discrimination in how he treats them. Its is the essence of "Good"


Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

This is what christians do. The hang around eachother patting eachother on the back at how "Holy" they think they are but curse and hate and condemn everyone else all the time. That is "Evil"

Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

As I said above its "Evil"

Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

So perfect must not mean quoting scriptures or being all self rightous as they do but it means not being an asshole to everyone else.

Because Gods not an monster.

But they twist every scripture about his LOVE that NEVER FAILS to make him into one..

Like this..

What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of a small fraction of the nations; and some of the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.


And What the word actually SAYS

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall about 10% of mankind be made alive.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of just a few men, and only of those that believe.

And What the word actually SAYS

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And what they actually TEACH..

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away...except in hell where screaming and pain and tears and death will continue quite happily for eternity.

And What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up 10% of death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off about 10% of faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off a bit of the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And What the word actually SAYS

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw about 10% of men unto me.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and for our's only, but not for the sins of the whole world.


And What the word actually SAYS


John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of part of the world.
.

Took a fair bit of twisting of scripture to make them say the OPPOSITE of whats there...but most christians should not have a problem with it because its what they EXACTLY teach..


(Feel free to facebook this to everyone you know...print it out and scatter it in church carparks..let the TRUTH about how they have all been LIED to be known...because the FAKE CHUCH IS FALLING)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46344121


may the horn of brevity smash the wall of text before me.

reagan smash..


 Quoting: orpheuskingstone


OK ill sum it up.

"Forgive your enemies." God says through jesus.

I say, "I do;" but he says,

"I will torture MINE forever and ever in unbearable AGONY."

God should be consistent.

If he wants me to forgive my enemies he should forgive his.

I am asked to forgive enemies who can hurt me.

God is only asked to forgive enemies who cannot hurt him.

He certainly ought to be as generous as he asks us to be.

Has anyone really given logic a try??

Or is god illogical and a two faced hypocrite who cannot do what he asks US to do?

Now try reading what I wrote next time you are on the toilet..you will have time then.

You said you like reading on the dunny.
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dude, you puked puke.. thats just gross.
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OP, this is it.

This is your pathetic purpose for existence.

Sad.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44823536


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And thats why christians sneer and condemn and look down on others. Tyring to constantly please this god of death and doom, and cursing anyone who says he is a God of mercy whos love CANNOT fail.

They take the LOVE of God and turn it into blackmail and hate.

They twist the scriptures below to conform to their darkness..

They totally forget that..

God IS love.

Its NOT an ATTRIBUTE of his..its what HE ACTAULLY IS!!!!!!

1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the LOVE that GOD ACTUALLY IS???


1Co 13:4 LOVE suffereth long, and is kind; LOVE envieth not; LOVE vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

1Co 13:8 LOVE never faileth:

But to hear most christians preach..they TWIST it to mean...

1Jn 4:8 He that condemeth others not to hell knoweth not God; for God is JUSTICE and REVENGE.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the JUSTICE and RAGE that God hath to us. God is JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE; and he that dwelleth in JUSTICE and etrnal SPITE dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE that GOD ACTUALLY IS according to how they preach it???


1Co 13:4 JUSTICE and RAGE suffereth NOTHING, and is unkind; JUSTICE and RAGE envieth all things; JUSTICE and RAGE vaunteth itself and DEMANDS worship on pain of ETERNAL TORURE, and is INCREDIBLY puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth behave itself unseemly, seeketh always its own, easily provoked, thinketh eternal evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth in iniquity, but rejoiceth NOT in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Burneth all things, condemneth all things, hopeth all things burn, endureth nothing.

1Co 13:8 And LOVE??? well..it ALWAYS faileth:

They teach that there will be an antichrist who will be possessed by satan and that he will threaten everyone with death and torture if they dont take his mark.

Dont worship him and you starve to death and/or get tortured and beheadded.

Thats rather sinister, but thats what Satan is all about isnt he? Force and threats and always wanting to be worshipped.


Now they also teach that God will place his mark on his peoples forheads as well. And those who dont take it will be killed and tortured forever without end.

Thats dark and sinister as well and is even worse than what satan planned to do.

So whos the bigger tyrant and dictator?

God or satan??

They both sell their product the same way.

Either they are the same being and both doctrines came from the one place of darkness or God is actually Good and satan has just shat all over his name which is "Good" by propogating a doctrine that makes God out to be a billion times worse that he himself is.

So someone somewhere has lied.


God cannot be a monster like satan is.

Its impossible.

Satan is hate and revenge and force and therefore evil.

Its black and white.

Good and evil.

Jesus defined "Good".

The opposite is evil.


Mat 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

This^^^^is "Good"

Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

This is what christians preach^^^

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

This^^^is "Good" and shows patience and love.

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

He Loves both the good and the evil and makes no discrimination in how he treats them. Its is the essence of "Good"


Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

This is what christians do. The hang around eachother patting eachother on the back at how "Holy" they think they are but curse and hate and condemn everyone else all the time. That is "Evil"

Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

As I said above its "Evil"

Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

So perfect must not mean quoting scriptures or being all self rightous as they do but it means not being an asshole to everyone else.

Because Gods not an monster.

But they twist every scripture about his LOVE that NEVER FAILS to make him into one..

Like this..

What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of a small fraction of the nations; and some of the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.


And What the word actually SAYS

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall about 10% of mankind be made alive.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of just a few men, and only of those that believe.

And What the word actually SAYS

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And what they actually TEACH..

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away...except in hell where screaming and pain and tears and death will continue quite happily for eternity.

And What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up 10% of death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off about 10% of faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off a bit of the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And What the word actually SAYS

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw about 10% of men unto me.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and for our's only, but not for the sins of the whole world.


And What the word actually SAYS


John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of part of the world.
.

Took a fair bit of twisting of scripture to make them say the OPPOSITE of whats there...but most christians should not have a problem with it because its what they EXACTLY teach..


(Feel free to facebook this to everyone you know...print it out and scatter it in church carparks..let the TRUTH about how they have all been LIED to be known...because the FAKE CHUCH IS FALLING)
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may the horn of brevity smash the wall of text before me.

reagan smash..


 Quoting: orpheuskingstone


Again- you are making no sense at all. We must have your demon on the run.
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no, you just dont have the soul to see my wit brother.

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A one star vote is always a good sign.

I notice the hell lovers are all flooding GLP with an onslaught of "You will burn in hell threads" to try to counter the obvious truth.

Which they cant.
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Why do you say God when you know you mean Jesus.
By the way your Jesus god has nothing to do with the True God.
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did you just pull that number out of the air?
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Actual numbers, I looked it up. 54% of the population believe in the God of Abraham. 30% subscribe to other religions, and 16% allign with no religion
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So Muslims, Christians, Jews believe in the same 'God'?

huh

I was always under the impression that members of those groups do not believe that the members of the other groups believe in the same 'God'

hmm
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Do they not all claim to believe in the God of Abraham?
 Quoting: *Evan

They do.
They claim one thing and act another.
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Actual numbers, I looked it up. 54% of the population believe in the God of Abraham. 30% subscribe to other religions, and 16% allign with no religion
 Quoting: *Evan


So Muslims, Christians, Jews believe in the same 'God'?

huh

I was always under the impression that members of those groups do not believe that the members of the other groups believe in the same 'God'

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Do they not all claim to believe in the God of Abraham?
 Quoting: *Evan

They do.
They claim one thing and act another.
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that is a human trait, not a religous one.

lol
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Accoring to most christians..(This is what they teach and what I too was taught)..Its also in just about every "Burn in hell NDE vid they post..

Tomorrow will bring forth another 250000 opportunities for god to put his torture devices in hell to good use.

You know,,his flesh eating worms he created..his boiling mud and lava pits...his torture racks and flames and hot pokers and such.

Yes..each day..for the 250,000 that die every day..this is what our loving and oh so forgiving and merciful god has in store for those who did not fall for the blackmail he pumps out here every day of "BOW to me or BUUURRRRNN!!...but HE loves YOU,,NEVER FORGET THAT.

Logical?

No.

SADISTIC.
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Accoring to most christians..(This is what they teach and what I too was taught)..Its also in just about every "Burn in hell NDE vid they post..

Tomorrow will bring forth another 250000 opportunities for god to put his torture devices in hell to good use.

You know,,his flesh eating worms he created..his boiling mud and lava pits...his torture racks and flames and hot pokers and such.

Yes..each day..for the 250,000 that die every day..this is what our loving and oh so forgiving and merciful god has in store for those who did not fall for the blackmail he pumps out here every day of "BOW to me or BUUURRRRNN!!...but HE loves YOU,,NEVER FORGET THAT.

Logical?

No.

SADISTIC.
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so is your stubborness, which is worse?

dont fool yourself op, your readers are gone, and you are alone, because im gone now too.

good luck with this, really.

hf
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Religious people started a lot of wars so god did send his son to create another religion. But the religious people keep on fighting. So god decided to send a prophet to create another religion. But the religious people keep fighting. Is god fucking stupid! No She's not but the religious people believe the demon who deceived the prophets is god and he is not! Only criminals use Many names. Wake up and please stop fighting eachother!
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Actual numbers, I looked it up. 54% of the population believe in the God of Abraham. 30% subscribe to other religions, and 16% allign with no religion
 Quoting: *Evan


So Muslims, Christians, Jews believe in the same 'God'?

huh

I was always under the impression that members of those groups do not believe that the members of the other groups believe in the same 'God'

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Do they not all claim to believe in the God of Abraham?
 Quoting: *Evan

They do.
They claim one thing and act another.
 Quoting: violentoppisition


They most certainly do. And yes, it is a religious thing. If one were truly "one" with the god of the universe and The Lord Jesus, they become a true human-being and by this power they show love to all others. None who know the true God and have the true spirit of love living inside them through the power of the Holy Ghost treat others with hatred. It is all the religions who are fighting and who cause chaos in this world. None of you know the true god of peace. I say this not to offend you but so you will wake up to the perverted teachings you have been brain washed with. I want you to come to know true unconditional love.
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So Muslims, Christians, Jews believe in the same 'God'?

huh

I was always under the impression that members of those groups do not believe that the members of the other groups believe in the same 'God'

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Do they not all claim to believe in the God of Abraham?
 Quoting: *Evan

They do.
They claim one thing and act another.
 Quoting: violentoppisition


that is a human trait, not a religous one.

lol
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In whose likeness?

And isn't that what they were told to teach the goy, or gentiles, as according to the talmud?

The god of Abraham I read about was twisted and sick.
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So Muslims, Christians, Jews believe in the same 'God'?

huh

I was always under the impression that members of those groups do not believe that the members of the other groups believe in the same 'God'

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Do they not all claim to believe in the God of Abraham?
 Quoting: *Evan

They do.
They claim one thing and act another.
 Quoting: violentoppisition


They most certainly do. And yes, it is a religious thing. If one were truly "one" with the god of the universe and The Lord Jesus, they become a true human-being and by this power they show love to all others. None who know the true God and have the true spirit of love living inside them through the power of the Holy Ghost treat others with hatred. It is all the religions who are fighting and who cause chaos in this world. None of you know the true god of peace. I say this not to offend you but so you will wake up to the perverted teachings you have been brain washed with. I want you to come to know true unconditional love.
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Please tell me who the god of peace is.
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Do they not all claim to believe in the God of Abraham?
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They do.
They claim one thing and act another.
 Quoting: violentoppisition


They most certainly do. And yes, it is a religious thing. If one were truly "one" with the god of the universe and The Lord Jesus, they become a true human-being and by this power they show love to all others. None who know the true God and have the true spirit of love living inside them through the power of the Holy Ghost treat others with hatred. It is all the religions who are fighting and who cause chaos in this world. None of you know the true god of peace. I say this not to offend you but so you will wake up to the perverted teachings you have been brain washed with. I want you to come to know true unconditional love.
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Please tell me who the god of peace is.
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You must find him on your own. He is the God of Love and He is not of this world.
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They do.
They claim one thing and act another.
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They most certainly do. And yes, it is a religious thing. If one were truly "one" with the god of the universe and The Lord Jesus, they become a true human-being and by this power they show love to all others. None who know the true God and have the true spirit of love living inside them through the power of the Holy Ghost treat others with hatred. It is all the religions who are fighting and who cause chaos in this world. None of you know the true god of peace. I say this not to offend you but so you will wake up to the perverted teachings you have been brain washed with. I want you to come to know true unconditional love.
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Please tell me who the god of peace is.
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You must find him on your own. He is the God of Love and He is not of this world.
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And if I can't find him?
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"Calling oneself a Christian doesn't make one a follower of Yeshua if one doesn't love as he loved."
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Accoring to most christians..(This is what they teach and what I too was taught)..Its also in just about every "Burn in hell NDE vid they post..

Tomorrow will bring forth another 250000 opportunities for god to put his torture devices in hell to good use.

You know,,his flesh eating worms he created..his boiling mud and lava pits...his torture racks and flames and hot pokers and such.

Yes..each day..for the 250,000 that die every day..this is what our loving and oh so forgiving and merciful god has in store for those who did not fall for the blackmail he pumps out here every day of "BOW to me or BUUURRRRNN!!...but HE loves YOU,,NEVER FORGET THAT.

Logical?

No.

SADISTIC.
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so is your stubborness, which is worse?

dont fool yourself op, your readers are gone, and you are alone, because im gone now too.

good luck with this, really.

hf
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They are gone because they cannot debunk it.

Orhave what they really beleive aired out in public like this.

Remeber that time Jesus was surrounded by the pharisees as he stooped to the ground and wrote in the dans?....and they all went away silent..not able to find grounds for further argument?

Its like that.

The truth of what they teach..and do..and how they act..is there for ALL to see.

So..they either hang around and insult and belittle..or walk away utterly stumped...unable to debunk or argue.


because to do so means they disagree with their OWN doctrine.
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Accoring to most christians..(This is what they teach and what I too was taught)..Its also in just about every "Burn in hell NDE vid they post..

Tomorrow will bring forth another 250000 opportunities for god to put his torture devices in hell to good use.

You know,,his flesh eating worms he created..his boiling mud and lava pits...his torture racks and flames and hot pokers and such.

Yes..each day..for the 250,000 that die every day..this is what our loving and oh so forgiving and merciful god has in store for those who did not fall for the blackmail he pumps out here every day of "BOW to me or BUUURRRRNN!!...but HE loves YOU,,NEVER FORGET THAT.

Logical?

No.

SADISTIC.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46344121


so is your stubborness, which is worse?

dont fool yourself op, your readers are gone, and you are alone, because im gone now too.

good luck with this, really.

hf
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They are gone because they cannot debunk it.

Or have what they really beleive aired out in public like this.

Remember that time Jesus was surrounded by the pharisees as he stooped to the ground and wrote in the sand?....and they all went away silent..not able to find grounds for further argument?

Its like that.

The truth of what they teach..and do..and how they act..is there for ALL to see.

So..they either hang around and insult and belittle..or walk away utterly stumped...unable to debunk or argue.


because to do so means they disagree with their OWN doctrine.

Fxd
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They most certainly do. And yes, it is a religious thing. If one were truly "one" with the god of the universe and The Lord Jesus, they become a true human-being and by this power they show love to all others. None who know the true God and have the true spirit of love living inside them through the power of the Holy Ghost treat others with hatred. It is all the religions who are fighting and who cause chaos in this world. None of you know the true god of peace. I say this not to offend you but so you will wake up to the perverted teachings you have been brain washed with. I want you to come to know true unconditional love.
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Please tell me who the god of peace is.
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You must find him on your own. He is the God of Love and He is not of this world.
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And if I can't find him?
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You will remain "Lost in the Wilderness" until you do. Search inside yourself. He cannot be found in any church.
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Please tell me who the god of peace is.
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You must find him on your own. He is the God of Love and He is not of this world.
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And if I can't find him?
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You will remain "Lost in the Wilderness" until you do. Search inside yourself. He cannot be found in any church.
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Funny thing
Satanic bible says the same thing...
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Accoring to most christians..(This is what they teach and what I too was taught)..Its also in just about every "Burn in hell NDE vid they post..

Tomorrow will bring forth another 250000 opportunities for god to put his torture devices in hell to good use.

You know,,his flesh eating worms he created..his boiling mud and lava pits...his torture racks and flames and hot pokers and such.

Yes..each day..for the 250,000 that die every day..this is what our loving and oh so forgiving and merciful god has in store for those who did not fall for the blackmail he pumps out here every day of "BOW to me or BUUURRRRNN!!...but HE loves YOU,,NEVER FORGET THAT.

Logical?

No.

SADISTIC.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46344121


so is your stubborness, which is worse?

dont fool yourself op, your readers are gone, and you are alone, because im gone now too.

good luck with this, really.

hf
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They are gone because they cannot debunk it.

Or have what they really beleive aired out in public like this.

Remember that time Jesus was surrounded by the pharisees as he stooped to the ground and wrote in the sand?....and they all went away silent..not able to find grounds for further argument?

Its like that.

The truth of what they teach..and do..and how they act..is there for ALL to see.

So..they either hang around and insult and belittle..or walk away utterly stumped...unable to debunk or argue.


because to do so means they disagree with their OWN doctrine.

Fxd
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Very true my friend. And they think that we are the ones living in fear lol!
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John 8:3-11 NKJV
Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst, they said to Him, “Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?” This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear.
So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?”
She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.”
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OP - I actually don't disagree.

I believe in God, truly, and have much conviction. My life is far from perfect - so far, that I cringe at MY OWN actions and words everyday.

The reason that established religion and Christianity is so despised, as you said, is exactly why there are SO FEW true loving hearts of God. A true and pure soul doesn't exist. But, a heart that carries love, conviction and mercy cannot be mistaken. I think you know what i mean there.

It's frustrating, I know. I cannot stand "them" either.

The most interesting thing about the Word, and Biblical prophecy, is that this VERY THING is a part of the disease that eventually be (is!) plaguing the world. There is no doubt, a "Christian" who acts, teaches and portrays a life as you're explaining, is MORE DOOMED than a non-believing person. A heart that has been exposed to the teaching of God, who then runs about the world in this manner, is DESPISED by God.

Hang in there, OP. It's such a wild ride nowadays.

peace
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They have taken LOVE..and turned it into HATE.

ON PURPOSE..because it suits their agenda.

God IS love.

Its NOT an ATTRIBUTE of his..its what HE ACTAULLY IS!!!!!!

1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the LOVE that GOD ACTUALLY IS???


1Co 13:4 LOVE suffereth long, and is kind; LOVE envieth not; LOVE vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

1Co 13:8 LOVE never faileth:

But to hear most christians preach..they TWIST it to mean...

1Jn 4:8 He that condemeth others not to hell knoweth not God; for God is JUSTICE and REVENGE.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the JUSTICE and RAGE that God hath to us. God is JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE; and he that dwelleth in JUSTICE and etrnal SPITE dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE that GOD ACTUALLY IS according to how they preach it???


1Co 13:4 JUSTICE and RAGE suffereth NOTHING, and is unkind; JUSTICE and RAGE envieth all things; JUSTICE and RAGE vaunteth itself and DEMANDS worship on pain of ETERNAL TORURE, and is INCREDIBLY puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth behave itself unseemly, seeketh always its own, easily provoked, thinketh eternal evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth in iniquity, but rejoiceth NOT in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Burneth all things, condemneth all things, hopeth all things burn, endureth nothing.

1Co 13:8 And LOVE??? well..it ALWAYS faileth:
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Um. I get it, hence my post.

I don't need to see scripture to support what you're saying.

And by the way, LOVE and HATE are not one in the same. You either love, or you hate. You can start with one, and end with the other, but they are not comparable.

Therefore, as you said God indeed IS love. So, if you see and/or are confronted with HATE, you know it is not of God.
I'm not a doctor; I don't have patience.
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You must find him on your own. He is the God of Love and He is not of this world.
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And if I can't find him?
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You will remain "Lost in the Wilderness" until you do. Search inside yourself. He cannot be found in any church.
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Funny thing
Satanic bible says the same thing...
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Really? Is that the best you can come up with? Just like OP says- we have a demon- is the only answer you can give.
Yet, I have spoken only of love. Satan does not teach peace and love does he?
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John 8:3-11 NKJV
Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst, they said to Him, “Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?” This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear.
So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?”
She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.”
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This says it better..

the Aussie version

Joh 8:3 And the self rioghteus hell screamers dreagged a woman up to him, She had been caught screwing another womans bloke; and they threw her down in front of him,

Joh 8:4 Then they said, Master (Buttering him up as these arrogant ones liked to do), this woman was caught screwing another womans bloke, in the very act..we even have pics so it DID happen.

Joh 8:5 Now Moses told us in the law, that such a slut should be stoned to death: but what do YOU reckon?

Joh 8:6 They said this hoping he would break one of their precious laws and have a reason to stone him as well. But Jesus knelt down, And started doing scribbles in the dirt..probably listing each one of their sins, complete with times..dates..names ect..and he totally ignored them.

Joh 8:7 So they kept hassling him and demanding an answer..as they could not see what he had written in the dirt as yet, he stood up..revealing what he had written..and said.,, "Any of you blokes who have never lied..been immoral..stolen..been greedy..or had sex ya should not have..you may be my guest..and start tossing some rocks..look over there..some really big ones..go for it"
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Joh 8:8 And he knelt down again and continued writing out their long list of hypocrisy...only now they KNEW what he was writing and didnt dare make a move..because the crowd was also watching and had seen what was written in the dirt.

Joh 8:9 And they knew they were stumped, they knew they were full of shit..and it was exposed for all to see, so they left, one by one, beginning at the eldest, and the youngest ones went last..being the most arrogant: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing alone...as all the self rightous hell screamers had slunk away.

Joh 8:10 Jesus then stood up..no longer needing to write out the list, and saw no one but the woman, he said to her, Woman, where are those self righteous hell screamers gone? I thought they wanted you dead and frying in hell..even though thats the last thing I would have done. Im not like them...wonder why they left?

Joh 8:11 She said, No one..they have gone, Lord. And Jesus said to her, Ive got nothing against you either: go, and never screw someone who is not your hubby OK?.

Joh 8:12 Then Jesus spoke again to the crowd, saying, I am fair dinkum..the example the world needs..the light as it were: If you truly do give a shit about what I have to say and what I do..and want to be like me you wont end up stumbling around like a pisshead in a melbourne footy club or end up like these self rightous hell screamers that just had their ass handed to them, but instead you shall be for real..you SHALL give a shit..you will be walking in the real life..not the fake self rightous life those tools I just sent packing were blabbering about.
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And if I can't find him?
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You will remain "Lost in the Wilderness" until you do. Search inside yourself. He cannot be found in any church.
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Funny thing
Satanic bible says the same thing...
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Really? Is that the best you can come up with? Just like OP says- we have a demon- is the only answer you can give.
Yet, I have spoken only of love. Satan does not teach peace and love does he?
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I don't know what "satan" teaches
But what is written in the satanic bible teaches that.
There is obvious conflict there
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You will remain "Lost in the Wilderness" until you do. Search inside yourself. He cannot be found in any church.
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Funny thing
Satanic bible says the same thing...
 Quoting: violentoppisition


Really? Is that the best you can come up with? Just like OP says- we have a demon- is the only answer you can give.
Yet, I have spoken only of love. Satan does not teach peace and love does he?
 Quoting: Goddess of the sea 23555885

I don't know what "satan" teaches
But what is written in the satanic bible teaches that.
There is obvious conflict there
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7477030


One other interesting point.

Is it true that satan lies and cannot tell the truth?

That whatever he does and says is done to further a lie?

Didnt Jesus say that he is the father of lies and cannot tell truth?
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Re: THIS is why people get turned off God and christians. How they are sickened by religion.
OP, this is it.

This is your pathetic purpose for existence.

Sad.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And thats why christians sneer and condemn and look down on others. Tyring to constantly please this god of death and doom, and cursing anyone who says he is a God of mercy whos love CANNOT fail.

They take the LOVE of God and turn it into blackmail and hate.

They twist the scriptures below to conform to their darkness..

They totally forget that..

God IS love.

Its NOT an ATTRIBUTE of his..its what HE ACTAULLY IS!!!!!!

1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the LOVE that GOD ACTUALLY IS???


1Co 13:4 LOVE suffereth long, and is kind; LOVE envieth not; LOVE vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

1Co 13:8 LOVE never faileth:

But to hear most christians preach..they TWIST it to mean...

1Jn 4:8 He that condemeth others not to hell knoweth not God; for God is JUSTICE and REVENGE.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the JUSTICE and RAGE that God hath to us. God is JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE; and he that dwelleth in JUSTICE and etrnal SPITE dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE that GOD ACTUALLY IS according to how they preach it???


1Co 13:4 JUSTICE and RAGE suffereth NOTHING, and is unkind; JUSTICE and RAGE envieth all things; JUSTICE and RAGE vaunteth itself and DEMANDS worship on pain of ETERNAL TORURE, and is INCREDIBLY puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth behave itself unseemly, seeketh always its own, easily provoked, thinketh eternal evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth in iniquity, but rejoiceth NOT in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Burneth all things, condemneth all things, hopeth all things burn, endureth nothing.

1Co 13:8 And LOVE??? well..it ALWAYS faileth:

They teach that there will be an antichrist who will be possessed by satan and that he will threaten everyone with death and torture if they dont take his mark.

Dont worship him and you starve to death and/or get tortured and beheadded.

Thats rather sinister, but thats what Satan is all about isnt he? Force and threats and always wanting to be worshipped.


Now they also teach that God will place his mark on his peoples forheads as well. And those who dont take it will be killed and tortured forever without end.

Thats dark and sinister as well and is even worse than what satan planned to do.

So whos the bigger tyrant and dictator?

God or satan??

They both sell their product the same way.

Either they are the same being and both doctrines came from the one place of darkness or God is actually Good and satan has just shat all over his name which is "Good" by propogating a doctrine that makes God out to be a billion times worse that he himself is.

So someone somewhere has lied.


God cannot be a monster like satan is.

Its impossible.

Satan is hate and revenge and force and therefore evil.

Its black and white.

Good and evil.

Jesus defined "Good".

The opposite is evil.


Mat 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

This^^^^is "Good"

Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

This is what christians preach^^^

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

This^^^is "Good" and shows patience and love.

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

He Loves both the good and the evil and makes no discrimination in how he treats them. Its is the essence of "Good"


Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

This is what christians do. The hang around eachother patting eachother on the back at how "Holy" they think they are but curse and hate and condemn everyone else all the time. That is "Evil"

Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

As I said above its "Evil"

Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

So perfect must not mean quoting scriptures or being all self rightous as they do but it means not being an asshole to everyone else.

Because Gods not an monster.

But they twist every scripture about his LOVE that NEVER FAILS to make him into one..

Like this..

What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of a small fraction of the nations; and some of the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.


And What the word actually SAYS

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall about 10% of mankind be made alive.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of just a few men, and only of those that believe.

And What the word actually SAYS

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And what they actually TEACH..

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away...except in hell where screaming and pain and tears and death will continue quite happily for eternity.

And What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up 10% of death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off about 10% of faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off a bit of the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And What the word actually SAYS

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw about 10% of men unto me.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and for our's only, but not for the sins of the whole world.


And What the word actually SAYS


John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of part of the world.
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Took a fair bit of twisting of scripture to make them say the OPPOSITE of whats there...but most christians should not have a problem with it because its what they EXACTLY teach..


(Feel free to facebook this to everyone you know...print it out and scatter it in church carparks..let the TRUTH about how they have all been LIED to be known...because the FAKE CHUCH IS FALLING)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46344121


OP, this is it.

This is your pathetic purpose for existence.

Sad.





GLP