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groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day

 
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Instead of trying to freeze the ground, why don't they come up with some super high tech heat/radiation suit and go in and clean it up?
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No Money to earn when this go to fast!

This is a fat Cow and soon we start to milk her!
(for Decades)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46402893


More profit for the Yakusa..
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
is Tokyo's water aquifer totally radioactive yet?
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
is Tokyo's water aquifer totally radioactive yet?
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No, and i don't understand why you think so!

FYI: We here use Surface Water only!
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
is Tokyo's water aquifer totally radioactive yet?
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No, and i don't understand why you think so!

FYI: We here use Surface Water only!
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Look at this AtomBoy is back from vacation!
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
is Tokyo's water aquifer totally radioactive yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37507215


No, and i don't understand why you think so!

FYI: We here use Surface Water only!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46402893


do you really think all the tourists in the world are gonna believe that?
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Everything is under control, don't worry. TEPCO knows what they are doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45389169


This speech might work in Japan,
Some of us here still have a brain that works.
And not just obeys slogans and commands.

Tepco has mile long record of being incompetent to handle this situation.
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09/06/2013 07:52 PM
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
is Tokyo's water aquifer totally radioactive yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37507215


No, and i don't understand why you think so!

FYI: We here use Surface Water only!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46402893


do you really think all the tourists in the world are gonna believe that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37507215


I really doubt that they drink our Water from the Pipe
because it taste and smells awful!
(Chlorine on mass)
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09/06/2013 07:53 PM
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
Everything is under control, don't worry. TEPCO knows what they are doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45389169


This speech might work in Japan,
Some of us here still have a brain that works.
And not just obeys slogans and commands.

Tepco has mile long record of being incompetent to handle this situation.
 Quoting: Mr BE 42039273


But you have not enough Brain to understand his Point!

Chuckle
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
Tatsuya Murakami, Mayor of Tokai-mura in Ibaraki Prefecture: What I’m truly afraid of is the groundwater. As you know, Japan is a country with a lot of rain. You could even consider it to be a monsoon country, and when we add that to the fact that we are a very mountainous nation, that means you have a lot of water always running underground to the ocean.

Mayor: Impossible to stop groundwater entering Fukushima plant — Abandoning melted fuel means contamination will always be flowing out — “I’m truly afraid… a tremendous problem… very, very serious”

When you look at the Fukushima power plant, you see that nearby is a very big mountain range called the Abukuma mountain range, and mountain ranges are always as I said a source of water. And there’s just a tremendous amount of groundwater always, always flowing very strongly towards the ocean. […]

Given the fact that the special terrain of Fukushima encourages groundwater — I know that at present the people in charge of the Fukushima plant are saying that they will somehow stop the groundwater from getting into the premises of the plant — but I think it’s an extremely difficult task. I frankly think it is an impossible task, and I think anyone who thinks that they can accomplish such things and conquer nature in that way is simply just full of themselves and not really realistic

I am again very concerned about the groundwater, in part because as a result of the meltdown we have this spent fuel that is just being abandoned, just been left there, and as long as it exists it is constantly emitting radiation, it is constantly being in contact with water and you’re always going to get more and more contaminated water produced. So unless that spent fuel is a somehow taken care of, you’re always going to have this danger of more contaminated water getting out. […]

I believe that this groundwater is a tremendous problem, and the idea of this contaminated water reaching the ocean I think is very, very serious and frightening thing.
[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: CleansMyHands



Fukushima is going to dwarf Chenobyl. The Japanese government has had a level 7 nuclear disaster going for almost a week but won’t admit it.

The disaster is occurring the opposite way than Chernobyl, which exploded and stopped the reaction. At Fukushima, the reactions are getting worse. I suspect three nuclear piles are in meltdown and we will probably get some of it.

If reactor 3 is in meltdown, the concrete under the containment looks like lava. But Fukushima is not far off the water table. When that molten mass of self-sustaining nuclear material gets to the water table it won’t simply cool down. It will explode –not a nuclear explosion, but probably enough to involve the rest of the reactors and fuel rods at the facility.
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for GoodMen to do nothing.
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
Tatsuya Murakami, Mayor of Tokai-mura in Ibaraki Prefecture: What I’m truly afraid of is the groundwater. As you know, Japan is a country with a lot of rain. You could even consider it to be a monsoon country, and when we add that to the fact that we are a very mountainous nation, that means you have a lot of water always running underground to the ocean.

Mayor: Impossible to stop groundwater entering Fukushima plant — Abandoning melted fuel means contamination will always be flowing out — “I’m truly afraid… a tremendous problem… very, very serious”

When you look at the Fukushima power plant, you see that nearby is a very big mountain range called the Abukuma mountain range, and mountain ranges are always as I said a source of water. And there’s just a tremendous amount of groundwater always, always flowing very strongly towards the ocean. […]

Given the fact that the special terrain of Fukushima encourages groundwater — I know that at present the people in charge of the Fukushima plant are saying that they will somehow stop the groundwater from getting into the premises of the plant — but I think it’s an extremely difficult task. I frankly think it is an impossible task, and I think anyone who thinks that they can accomplish such things and conquer nature in that way is simply just full of themselves and not really realistic

I am again very concerned about the groundwater, in part because as a result of the meltdown we have this spent fuel that is just being abandoned, just been left there, and as long as it exists it is constantly emitting radiation, it is constantly being in contact with water and you’re always going to get more and more contaminated water produced. So unless that spent fuel is a somehow taken care of, you’re always going to have this danger of more contaminated water getting out. […]

I believe that this groundwater is a tremendous problem, and the idea of this contaminated water reaching the ocean I think is very, very serious and frightening thing.
[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: CleansMyHands



Fukushima is going to dwarf Chenobyl. The Japanese government has had a level 7 nuclear disaster going for almost a week but won’t admit it.

The disaster is occurring the opposite way than Chernobyl, which exploded and stopped the reaction. At Fukushima, the reactions are getting worse. I suspect three nuclear piles are in meltdown and we will probably get some of it.

If reactor 3 is in meltdown, the concrete under the containment looks like lava. But Fukushima is not far off the water table. When that molten mass of self-sustaining nuclear material gets to the water table it won’t simply cool down. It will explode –not a nuclear explosion, but probably enough to involve the rest of the reactors and fuel rods at the facility.
 Quoting: Mr Martin


Making matters worse is the MOX in reactor 3. MOX is the street name for ‘mixed oxide fuel‘ which uses ~9% plutonium along with a uranium compound to fuel reactors. This is why it can be used.

The problem is that you don’t want to play with this stuff. A nuclear reactor means bring fissile material to a point at which it is hot enough to boil water (in a light-water reactor) and not enough to melt and go supercritical (China syndrome or a Chernobyl incident). You simply cannot let it get away from you because if it does, you can’t stop it.

The Japanese are still talking about days or weeks to clean this up. That’s not true. They cannot clean it up. And no one will live in that area again for dozens or maybe hundreds of years.

Original Source Artikel from 2011
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
is Tokyo's water aquifer totally radioactive yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37507215


No, and i don't understand why you think so!

FYI: We here use Surface Water only!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46402893


do you really think all the tourists in the world are gonna believe that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37507215


I really doubt that they drink our Water from the Pipe
because it taste and smells awful!
(Chlorine on mass)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46402893


I see the chlorine is already working .

So gullible...

Last Edited by Mr Martin on 09/06/2013 08:19 PM
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09/06/2013 08:16 PM
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
Everything is under control, don't worry. TEPCO knows what they are doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45389169


This speech might work in Japan,
Some of us here still have a brain that works.
And not just obeys slogans and commands.

Tepco has mile long record of being incompetent to handle this situation.
 Quoting: Mr BE 42039273


TEPCO are just the workers. it's The Japanese Government that's running
this 3-ring circus.

.
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09/06/2013 08:18 PM
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The Japanese Government has lost its legitimacy.
The Emperor needs to step in, take control, and
take his place as the rightful leader of Japan.

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Mr Martin

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09/06/2013 08:20 PM

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Everything is under control, don't worry. TEPCO knows what they are doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45389169


This speech might work in Japan,
Some of us here still have a brain that works.
And not just obeys slogans and commands.

Tepco has mile long record of being incompetent to handle this situation.
 Quoting: Mr BE 42039273


TEPCO are just the workers. it's The Japanese Government that's running
this 3-ring circus.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37507215


True they need to admit that they do need outside help.
Even if that means loosing some pride.
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for GoodMen to do nothing.
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09/06/2013 08:32 PM
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
its where the molten material has gone down to the water table. similar to drilling a well.
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Exactly! The corium worked its way down and has created a spring from the water table. The worst part of this scenario is that this is only the water that is coming UP and OUT.
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09/06/2013 08:43 PM
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
That's only a 100K gallons of water...the Gulf of Mexico alone has over 650 quadrillion gallons...
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So its all good then right? LOL, all I have to say is wow. The stupidity is strong with this one. Guess you missed the part that at the current rate the Pacific Ocean would be destroyed in less than 6 years and since we all know they are lying about the rate that time frame is probably less than half of that.
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Why "Destroyed"?
Who is telling you such Bs.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46402893


you just keep sticking your head in the sand idiot!
let us know how it feels when you do get radiation sickness fuckface!
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09/06/2013 08:47 PM
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
is Tokyo's water aquifer totally radioactive yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37507215


No, and i don't understand why you think so!

FYI: We here use Surface Water only!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46402893


do you really think all the tourists in the world are gonna believe that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37507215


lol.. Surface water is nothing more than rain water mixing in with the elements in the ground. I would not brag about that...
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Good of a time as any to release this. With the whole world watching Syria and all.


sheep
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I have said in chat for the last week or longer that Syria was not the real problem but Fukushima and the radiation.
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Re: groundwater pouring into basement of Fukushima Unit 1 turbine building..over 400 tons per day
Tepco just broke a crane in half removing some debris..
Good ole tepco. Consistently fucking shit up.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Not to rurry.

We still will be able to pick up many thousand fuel rods with giant crane opurrated from long way away. We start next year.

Just like game of Operation. We make sure not to make mistake.

Not to rurry !!
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That's only a 100K gallons of water...the Gulf of Mexico alone has over 650 quadrillion gallons...
 Quoting: BRIEF


So its all good then right? LOL, all I have to say is wow. The stupidity is strong with this one. Guess you missed the part that at the current rate the Pacific Ocean would be destroyed in less than 6 years and since we all know they are lying about the rate that time frame is probably less than half of that.
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Why "Destroyed"?
Who is telling you such Bs.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46402893


you just keep sticking your head in the sand idiot!
let us know how it feels when you do get radiation sickness fuckface!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12762865


Gosh, born as an Australian must be horrible,
hopeless Stupido without the slightest Chance for a improvement!

You are a Gene-Defect!
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[link to fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com.au]

No water in the reactors.. pour in .. pour out... photo link....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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No water in the reactors.. pour in .. pour out... photo link....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Nice find! It goes deeper and deeper???
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So its all good then right? LOL, all I have to say is wow. The stupidity is strong with this one. Guess you missed the part that at the current rate the Pacific Ocean would be destroyed in less than 6 years and since we all know they are lying about the rate that time frame is probably less than half of that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45615410


Why "Destroyed"?
Who is telling you such Bs.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46402893


you just keep sticking your head in the sand idiot!
let us know how it feels when you do get radiation sickness fuckface!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12762865


Gosh, born as an Australian must be horrible,
hopeless Stupido without the slightest Chance for a improvement!

You are a Gene-Defect!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46402893


citz_ts1citz_steakpoocitz_kitteh2citz_Tepco_water
It's life as we know it, but only just.
My Fukushima Site:
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“If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on it, I would use the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I knew the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes.”
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@Blubber Ploerp,

Stalking much?

Chuckle

We need to bring Fukushima back to Australia,
they are responsible because here in Japan we have
only bad People who do not know, they are just Kids,
but Australia, the bad, disgusting and smelly Whore of our Planet,
sold them the Weapon of Mass-destruction and for this they will
burn in eternal Fire!
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doom
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@Blubber Ploerp,

Stalking much?

Chuckle

We need to bring Fukushima back to Australia,
they are responsible because here in Japan we have
only bad People who do not know, they are just Kids,
but Australia, the bad, disgusting and smelly Whore of our Planet,
sold them the Weapon of Mass-destruction and for this they will
burn in eternal Fire!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46402893


Like this Banana dead3
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@Blubber Ploerp,

Stalking much?

Chuckle

We need to bring Fukushima back to Australia,
they are responsible because here in Japan we have
only bad People who do not know, they are just Kids,
but Australia, the bad, disgusting and smelly Whore of our Planet,
sold them the Weapon of Mass-destruction and for this they will
burn in eternal Fire!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46402893


citz_fukufoodcitz_sccitz_bs1citz_kitteh2citz_Tepco_watercitz_tomatos

That's rich coming from you tepco-atom-boy...

how's your company going with fucking up today?

surprised you have the gall to keep posting as you work for TEPCO.....

citz_fukufood
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they have to keep the Corium cooled so it won't go super-critical.
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KABOOOOM!!!!!!

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they have to keep the Corium cooled so it won't go super-critical.
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KABOOOOM!!!!!!

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37507215


or, is that:

KABLOOOOOWIE!!!!!!!

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