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How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?

 
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what kind of God would burn us in hell and allows all the suffering here on earth, me think God is evil
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??? The christ in the bible. Religion has nothing to do with it. Mormons deny Christ. If you want the roght christianity pick up the bible and read, dont follow any religious institution, or if you check if what the say is correct with the bible.
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I thought thats what all denominations did right? Yet no matter what my interpretation is someone elses says i'm going to hell. Tell me i'm wrong about that.

Jesus i believe in. was he super natural? I don't know and don't care, it doesn't matter. He had a solid message. I would like him better if he was just a dude who followed his heart truthfully instead of the son of god.
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Just because they say you are going to hell doesnt make it so. But you misled yourself you do not believe in Jesus, you believe in a Jesus you have made up in your mind.

Jesus is god, if he was just a man your sins cannot be forgiven as only god himself can forgive them.

Read the Gospel the 1st 4 books of the new testament Jesus words are in there. Then decide if you believe in the real Jesus or not, not about the Jesus you have heard about from different people woth their own bersion.

Read it directly from his own lips.
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I have read the bible friend, many times. When i say i believe in his message and example i mean it.

God blessed me with a logical brain. That brain tells me the bible has been altered everytime it was translated and purposefully altered by Constantine and company to fit their agenda.

Again, i would have been more impressed with a man who found god in his heart than some kind of holy royalty that may or may not be the same person i read about in an ancient and repeatedly altered and abridged text from 2000+ yrs ago.

Ultimately you are telling me it doesn't matter though. Just read and pray and He will show me the way out of the perversion his church has become.

I still haven't found it.
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The current bible has been proven historical, so what alterations are you speaking about. Yes god says if you seek after him with all your heart you will find him.

If you noticed the catholic church preaches things opposite of the bible, logically if they altered it why would they not preach what they wrote and altered?
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what kind of God would burn us in hell and allows all the suffering here on earth, me think God is evil
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You thought alot of dumb things when you were an ignorant child also. Thinking out of a state of ignorance doesn't make it true.
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people wont turn themselves over to God because they love their sin.
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Which God? Your God you know is the real God or the Muslim who knows his God is the real God. Even though you know his God is not the one true god and he knows your god is not the one true God.
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The God that spoke the world into existence. The one whom we are made in His likeness. The God that took His people out of slavery and gave them the light of His glory with His law. A lamp to guide His people. The God of David the king, to whom his son Solomon received the greatest wisdom. The God who provided a messiah through the line of Abraham. The God who is the only one who may feel jealousy and the only God who rightfully serves justice.

The God who does not force you to love Him the God who gave us free will. The God who seeks us. The God who doesn't need your "good deeds" or your intelligence or your money. The God who isn't impressed with your debating skills or your degree. The God who uses the humble to shame the proud. The God to whom everyone will come face to face with at their death. The God who forgives the sorry and resists the proud. The God who reveals His secrets to the childlike and hides himself from the prideful "know-it-alls"

The God whom you will never know unless you see how rotten and empty you are without Him.

blesings
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So the same God as you. Check.
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If he's real then he's a cruel being who I want nothing to do with. If he's almighty and powerful but yet lets innocent kids die to prove points, then he's sick.

I prefer a more peaceful religion ... oh wait, there isn't one. I'll stick to loving nature and living my life while I'm alive.
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loving nature???


nature is peacefull?????????


hhahahhahhhahahahahhahaaa!!!!111one
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people wont turn themselves over to God because they love their sin.
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Which God? Your God you know is the real God or the Muslim who knows his God is the real God. Even though you know his God is not the one true god and he knows your god is not the one true God.
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The God that spoke the world into existence. The one whom we are made in His likeness. The God that took His people out of slavery and gave them the light of His glory with His law. A lamp to guide His people. The God of David the king, to whom his son Solomon received the greatest wisdom. The God who provided a messiah through the line of Abraham. The God who is the only one who may feel jealousy and the only God who rightfully serves justice.

The God who does not force you to love Him the God who gave us free will. The God who seeks us. The God who doesn't need your "good deeds" or your intelligence or your money. The God who isn't impressed with your debating skills or your degree. The God who uses the humble to shame the proud. The God to whom everyone will come face to face with at their death. The God who forgives the sorry and resists the proud. The God who reveals His secrets to the childlike and hides himself from the prideful "know-it-alls"

The God whom you will never know unless you see how rotten and empty you are without Him.

blesings
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So the same God as you. Check.
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hmmm. try again.

its pointless trying to speak with you about the things of the kingdom.

its like trying to describe the color yellow to a blind person.
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I thought thats what all denominations did right? Yet no matter what my interpretation is someone elses says i'm going to hell. Tell me i'm wrong about that.

Jesus i believe in. was he super natural? I don't know and don't care, it doesn't matter. He had a solid message. I would like him better if he was just a dude who followed his heart truthfully instead of the son of god.
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Just because they say you are going to hell doesnt make it so. But you misled yourself you do not believe in Jesus, you believe in a Jesus you have made up in your mind.

Jesus is god, if he was just a man your sins cannot be forgiven as only god himself can forgive them.

Read the Gospel the 1st 4 books of the new testament Jesus words are in there. Then decide if you believe in the real Jesus or not, not about the Jesus you have heard about from different people woth their own bersion.

Read it directly from his own lips.
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I have read the bible friend, many times. When i say i believe in his message and example i mean it.

God blessed me with a logical brain. That brain tells me the bible has been altered everytime it was translated and purposefully altered by Constantine and company to fit their agenda.

Again, i would have been more impressed with a man who found god in his heart than some kind of holy royalty that may or may not be the same person i read about in an ancient and repeatedly altered and abridged text from 2000+ yrs ago.

Ultimately you are telling me it doesn't matter though. Just read and pray and He will show me the way out of the perversion his church has become.

I still haven't found it.
 Quoting: interlocutor


The current bible has been proven historical, so what alterations are you speaking about. Yes god says if you seek after him with all your heart you will find him.

If you noticed the catholic church preaches things opposite of the bible, logically if they altered it why would they not preach what they wrote and altered?
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I'm going to have to stop you at the bible has been proven historical. In part yes, in totality? no never and it never can be can it? We can't go back in time. The torah has been proven historically accurate in part as well, sharing some of the same stories as the bible in fact. As have other holy books people die and kill over.

So the the fact that scribes accurately recorded the names of ancient cities and the actions of some Kings is hardly proof of an omnipotent beings son having walked the earth.
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Which God? Your God you know is the real God or the Muslim who knows his God is the real God. Even though you know his God is not the one true god and he knows your god is not the one true God.
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The God that spoke the world into existence. The one whom we are made in His likeness. The God that took His people out of slavery and gave them the light of His glory with His law. A lamp to guide His people. The God of David the king, to whom his son Solomon received the greatest wisdom. The God who provided a messiah through the line of Abraham. The God who is the only one who may feel jealousy and the only God who rightfully serves justice.

The God who does not force you to love Him the God who gave us free will. The God who seeks us. The God who doesn't need your "good deeds" or your intelligence or your money. The God who isn't impressed with your debating skills or your degree. The God who uses the humble to shame the proud. The God to whom everyone will come face to face with at their death. The God who forgives the sorry and resists the proud. The God who reveals His secrets to the childlike and hides himself from the prideful "know-it-alls"

The God whom you will never know unless you see how rotten and empty you are without Him.

blesings
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So the same God as you. Check.
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hmmm. try again.

its pointless trying to speak with you about the things of the kingdom.

its like trying to describe the color yellow to a blind person.
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Yes, how Christ like of you to say so. Are you sure i am the one that is blinded?
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If he's real then he's a cruel being who I want nothing to do with. If he's almighty and powerful but yet lets innocent kids die to prove points, then he's sick.

I prefer a more peaceful religion ... oh wait, there isn't one. I'll stick to loving nature and living my life while I'm alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39073125


loving nature???


nature is peacefull?????????


hhahahhahhhahahahahhahaaa!!!!111one
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40369615


Lmao, its so funny that humans in their own "wisdom" are fools. Yes nature that creates hurricanes, and floods, and earthquakes so peaceful
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Honest answer, because it is too contradictory.

I don't just mean that it contradicts itself, but that it contradicts what I know and have experienced of God.

For one, I have been to the Father and I did not go through Jesus. Does that mean Jesus lied? Either it was a mistranslation, a misinterpretation, or a work of fiction.

Secondly, your Bible God wants you to fear him and believes this is wisdom. If you had ever met God, the true God, you would know that fear cannot exist in his presence. In fact, the true definition of fear is "the belief that you are separate from God". God is the absence of fear.

I do not fear my Creator. He is pure, absolute, unconditional love. In fact he is so far beyond love there are no words to describe it.

The God of your Bible is nothing compared to the true God.

That's why I don't believe. Thanks for asking.
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Honest answer, because it is too contradictory.

I don't just mean that it contradicts itself, but that it contradicts what I know and have experienced of God.

For one, I have been to the Father and I did not go through Jesus. Does that mean Jesus lied? Either it was a mistranslation, a misinterpretation, or a work of fiction.

Secondly, your Bible God wants you to fear him and believes this is wisdom. If you had ever met God, the true God, you would know that fear cannot exist in his presence. In fact, the true definition of fear is "the belief that you are separate from God". God is the absence of fear.

I do not fear my Creator. He is pure, absolute, unconditional love. In fact he is so far beyond love there are no words to describe it.

The God of your Bible is nothing compared to the true God.

That's why I don't believe. Thanks for asking.
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explain how you came to the father without the son.

does your God have a law? Does your God hate pride, lust, theft, adultery, and greed? Does your God have a standard?
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Just because they say you are going to hell doesnt make it so. But you misled yourself you do not believe in Jesus, you believe in a Jesus you have made up in your mind.

Jesus is god, if he was just a man your sins cannot be forgiven as only god himself can forgive them.

Read the Gospel the 1st 4 books of the new testament Jesus words are in there. Then decide if you believe in the real Jesus or not, not about the Jesus you have heard about from different people woth their own bersion.

Read it directly from his own lips.
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I have read the bible friend, many times. When i say i believe in his message and example i mean it.

God blessed me with a logical brain. That brain tells me the bible has been altered everytime it was translated and purposefully altered by Constantine and company to fit their agenda.

Again, i would have been more impressed with a man who found god in his heart than some kind of holy royalty that may or may not be the same person i read about in an ancient and repeatedly altered and abridged text from 2000+ yrs ago.

Ultimately you are telling me it doesn't matter though. Just read and pray and He will show me the way out of the perversion his church has become.

I still haven't found it.
 Quoting: interlocutor


The current bible has been proven historical, so what alterations are you speaking about. Yes god says if you seek after him with all your heart you will find him.

If you noticed the catholic church preaches things opposite of the bible, logically if they altered it why would they not preach what they wrote and altered?
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I'm going to have to stop you at the bible has been proven historical. In part yes, in totality? no never and it never can be can it? We can't go back in time. The torah has been proven historically accurate in part as well, sharing some of the same stories as the bible in fact. As have other holy books people die and kill over.

So the the fact that scribes accurately recorded the names of ancient cities and the actions of some Kings is hardly proof of an omnipotent beings son having walked the earth.
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Historians wrote about Jesus, the fact that he was crucified and the fact that they wrote about him means all the other things written about him are true.

If it was just an ordinary person no one would write about him. The jews killed him because he claimed to be their god, the god of the torah. You either believe all his words and life not just some.
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The God that spoke the world into existence. The one whom we are made in His likeness. The God that took His people out of slavery and gave them the light of His glory with His law. A lamp to guide His people. The God of David the king, to whom his son Solomon received the greatest wisdom. The God who provided a messiah through the line of Abraham. The God who is the only one who may feel jealousy and the only God who rightfully serves justice.

The God who does not force you to love Him the God who gave us free will. The God who seeks us. The God who doesn't need your "good deeds" or your intelligence or your money. The God who isn't impressed with your debating skills or your degree. The God who uses the humble to shame the proud. The God to whom everyone will come face to face with at their death. The God who forgives the sorry and resists the proud. The God who reveals His secrets to the childlike and hides himself from the prideful "know-it-alls"

The God whom you will never know unless you see how rotten and empty you are without Him.

blesings
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So the same God as you. Check.
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hmmm. try again.

its pointless trying to speak with you about the things of the kingdom.

its like trying to describe the color yellow to a blind person.
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Yes, how Christ like of you to say so. Are you sure i am the one that is blinded?
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how are you to say what is Christ-like or not?

May God reveal himself to you as He did to me.
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I have read the bible friend, many times. When i say i believe in his message and example i mean it.

God blessed me with a logical brain. That brain tells me the bible has been altered everytime it was translated and purposefully altered by Constantine and company to fit their agenda.

Again, i would have been more impressed with a man who found god in his heart than some kind of holy royalty that may or may not be the same person i read about in an ancient and repeatedly altered and abridged text from 2000+ yrs ago.

Ultimately you are telling me it doesn't matter though. Just read and pray and He will show me the way out of the perversion his church has become.

I still haven't found it.
 Quoting: interlocutor


The current bible has been proven historical, so what alterations are you speaking about. Yes god says if you seek after him with all your heart you will find him.

If you noticed the catholic church preaches things opposite of the bible, logically if they altered it why would they not preach what they wrote and altered?
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I'm going to have to stop you at the bible has been proven historical. In part yes, in totality? no never and it never can be can it? We can't go back in time. The torah has been proven historically accurate in part as well, sharing some of the same stories as the bible in fact. As have other holy books people die and kill over.

So the the fact that scribes accurately recorded the names of ancient cities and the actions of some Kings is hardly proof of an omnipotent beings son having walked the earth.
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Historians wrote about Jesus, the fact that he was crucified and the fact that they wrote about him means all the other things written about him are true.

If it was just an ordinary person no one would write about him. The jews killed him because he claimed to be their god, the god of the torah. You either believe all his words and life not just some.
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I'm sorry what? You are not talking to an uneducated child.
Thousands were crucified and written about. Others have died for their beliefs and that has been documented as well.

Only the bible claims someone named Jesus rose three days later after being crucified.

When i get in conversations like these i start to wonder if i'm purposefully being mislead or if who i'm talking to never even questioned what they were told and just repeat what was said to them.

Again i'm not trying to offend but i see the anger coming in this convo, if not from you then from someone else.

Jesus life as a holy man who rose from the grave is in no way historically proven. There are some correlating facts that match up with events in the bible that have been documented elsewhere but that is all.

I cant have a serious conversation with anyone who tries to act like those facts are not true.
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Historians wrote about Jesus, the fact that he was crucified and the fact that they wrote about him means all the other things written about him are true.

If it was just an ordinary person no one would write about him. The jews killed him because he claimed to be their god, the god of the torah. You either believe all his words and life not just some.
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Thanks for all the great info that is posted here, almost every day, even though this is a conspiracy forum.

Now why don't you go find a good RELIGION forum and start your discussion there? You know, where people actually want to hear this stuff? Or did God tell you to go forth and hassle?
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So the same God as you. Check.
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hmmm. try again.

its pointless trying to speak with you about the things of the kingdom.

its like trying to describe the color yellow to a blind person.
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Yes, how Christ like of you to say so. Are you sure i am the one that is blinded?
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how are you to say what is Christ-like or not?

May God reveal himself to you as He did to me.
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So the same God as you. Check.


This argument is circular. You believe because you believe you have satisfactory proof of the existence of your God and the story of his exploits on this planet.

I disagree and point out your proofs are the same as others proofs who claim you are wrong. Then you disagree.

It's pointless.
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Seriously, everything happening right now was written about 4, 000 years ago and it's all comming into frutition exactly. War with Syria. Russia and other arab countries attacking Israel, Israel rebuilding the temple mount. Economic collapse, before you even knew the words "New World Order" it was written in the bible thousands of years ago about a one world government with a cashless monitored society.

Feel free to post verses from the bible that refer to Syria Gog and Magog Armagedeon as I am typing on my phone and its hard to write them.

To use the excuse that the leaders are following the bible exactly to somehow decieve the people makes no sense.

Do you honestly believe that the whole world nations and powers can be controlled in such a way, to follow something exactly to the dot? We can barley agree on simple things yet alone coordinate on that large of scale with countries like Iran, Syria, China, Russia or any other country for that matter.

Everything written in the bible about prophecy is happening exactly as written which proves the existence that an all knowing god wrote it, and the bible is true.

Meaning the part about ETERNAL life is also true. Gods promise and free gift is still alive today for everyone who chooses to accept it.

God came down from heaven in human form as Jesus and sacrificed himself and was slaughtered like an animal as a sacrifice for our sins.

That if we believe that he died for us, all of our sins are forgiven present and future and we will stand righteous before god and have everlasting life.

Not follow one thousand rules and if you mess up, or if you dont meditate properly you are doomed. Only pure love whould make it so easy and simple to live forever, just believe thats it.

If you have never known Jesus or had a personal relationship with him, or if you had at some point but never truly comitted your soul to him.

Today where ever you are in the world. You can pray this silently with no one even knowing.

Dear god lord Jesus, I believe that when you were crucified on the cross, you did it as a sacrifice for my Sins. I confess my sins before you and i know you will forgive them. I believe that you were raised from the dead. I want you to be my personal lord and my savior I want to have a personal loving relationship with you. In Jesus name amen.

If you prayed the above sincirely with all your heart and soul, you are forever saved. God says nobody can snatch you from his hand once you are in it. Of course we will sin and fall again just like we all do everyday, but our sins will be forgiven and god will truly change our lives.

A little bit about me. I was an athiest born a muslim, practiced new age. And one day when I felt real empty probably still high from weed. I got down on my knees and prayed from the bottom of my heart and soul with tears flowing down my face, sobbing, and prayed: God please show me the real you, I want to know who you really are, weather you are allah, buddah, jaweah or whoever, I want to know the creator of all the universe.

I also prayed for my perfect soul mate, no such thing but the best person for me, and for $6, 000 to buy a taxi car so I could work. Immediately the next day or two I spoke to this girl online and we both got an undescribable feeling that we were meant to be together forever, this connectedness thats undescribable. We have now been 8 years together.

Secondly, one of my penny stocks which for the last 3-4 years was worthless all of a sudden went up 10, 000% in one day and was worth $6, 000. Out of the millions of penny stocks out there a company chose this one to do a reverse merger.

Also, when me amd my current fiance spoke online some weird things happened. One time we flipped coins to see if we were meant to be together. We basically ended up flipping 5 seperate times and 5 times ina row and we kept getting the same outcomes! The chances of this happening are Iimpossible or a probability that it would never happen in thousands of life times.

Lastly, in msn messenger you can send messages and the person would recieve them when they signed on. I sent her about 11 messages, and she got all of them besides one when she signed on.

When I mentioned Jesus name talking about something, I wrote something about it, then the next line I wrote to Jesus

All of a sudden she got the missing message which said "I LOVE YOU"

I will end with this and I pray that god will save many souls and that you truly get to experience the love of Jesus the creator of the universe in your own lives.

Take Care
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You're story is almost the opposite of mine. I was born and raised a Christian. As I became an adult I began to question the reality of it all. Then, I finally got to point where I said a prayer...something like..."God, if you're out there give me a sign. I'll drop everything and champion for you. Just give me a sign. I want to do what is right. If you're truly out there and truly care, I know you will some day show me" Never got a thing. Years later, I became an atheist. It made sense to me that we're born, we live, we die and that's it. I was okay with that. I still practiced the Golden Rule just because it's a decent way to live. Then, at the age of 58 I had a heart attack and flat lined 3 times. My spirit/consciousness/essence was in a wonderful place. I sensed a dimension to myself that I'd never sensed before. What little information I got (that I remember) from that place came from within. No God, no Jesus, no judgement...only enlightenment. A presence there, but not God or Jesus as we've been taught.
What I got from this is it's not what you believe (or don't believe)...it's what's inside that's important. Practice the Golden Rule and look within yourself for love and understanding. (That's what Jesus meant when he said "the Kingdom is within...yes, there are a few truths in the Bible). When you do you will discover the importance of unconditional love and how it works. You will understand why people do the things they do and you will forgive them...no matter what it is they've done. You will forgive yourself because you know your ego and spirit are two different entities (it's like getting in a car and driving it. You have control of it...what are you going to do with it?). What happens in this life stays in this life and when the spirit leaves it's physical form it will come to know the value of unconditional love. That why some NDErs see God/Jesus...some don't. It's kind of a review of where you're consciousness was in this life.
I'm going to hear "oh, that's new age stuff" and negative comments like that. Well, that's okay. I don't care if you don't believe me...that's not important. But please follow the Golden Rule. It's okay to say "I don't believe you" but it's not okay to hate someone. Religion does that (especially the Abrahamic religions). They actually tend to sever the spirit from it's source. But if you feel you need religion and if your religion causes you practice unconditional love that's fine.
The bible is written by men, as are all religious texts. If any of them lead you to unconditional love, then that's good. When any of them lead to vanity, intolerance, or hate...that's bad. And indeed they do...especially the Abrahamic ones.
Peace and love to you.
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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
Cause evil men laid their evil hands on it and corrupted it
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09/06/2013 03:26 PM
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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
How can you NOT believe in (choose you god from list below) and turning your life over to them?

Agdistis
Ah Puch
Ahura Mazda
Alberich
Allah
Amaterasu
An
Anahita
Anansi
Anat
Andvari
Anshar
Anu
Aphrodite
Apollo
Apsu
Ares
Artemis
Asclepius
Athena
Athirat
Athtart
Atlas
Baal
Ba Xian
Bacchus
Balder
Bast
Bellona
Bergelmir
Bes
Bixia Yuanjin
Bragi
Brahma
Brigit
Camaxtli
Ceres
Ceridwen
Cernunnos
Chac
Chalchiuhtlicue
Chang Hsi See Heng-O.
Charun
Chemosh
Cheng-huang
Cybele
Dagon
Damkina
Davlin
Dawn
Demeter
Diana
Di Cang
Dionysus
Ea
El
Enki
Enlil
Eos
Epona
Ereskigal
Farbauti
Fenrir
Forseti
Fortuna
Freya
Freyr
Frigg
Gaia
Ganesha
Ganga
Garuda
Gauri
Geb
Geong Si
Guanyin
Hades
Hanuman
Hathor
Hecate
Helios
Heng-o
Hephaestus
Hera
Hermes
Hestia
Hod
Hoderi
Hoori
Horus
Hotei
Huitzilopochtli
Hsi-Wang-Mu
Hygeia
Inanna
Inti
Iris
Ishtar
Isis
Ixtab
Izanaki
Izanami
Janus
Jesus
Juno
Jupiter
Juturna
Kagutsuchi
Kartikeya
Khepri
Ki
Kingu
Kinich Ahau
Kishar
Krishna
Kuan-yin
Kukulcan
Kvasir
Lakshmi
Leto
Liza
Loki
Lugh
Luna
Magna Mater
Maia
Marduk
Mars
Mazu
Medb
Mercury
Mimir
Min
Minerva
Mithras
Morrigan
Mot
Mummu
Muses
Nammu
Nanna
Nanna
Nanse
Neith
Nemesis
Nephthys
Neptune
Nergal
Ninazu
Ninhurzag
Nintu
Ninurta
Njord
Nugua
Nut
Odin
Ohkuninushi
Ohyamatsumi
Orgelmir
Osiris
Ostara
Pan
Parvati
Phaethon
Phoebe
Phoebus Apollo
Pilumnus
Poseidon
Quetzalcoatl
Rama
Rhea
Sabazius
Sarapis
Sarasvati
Selene
Shiva
Seshat
Seti
Shamash
Shapsu
Shen Yi
Shiva
Shu
Si-Wang-Mu
Sin
Sirona
Sol
Surya
Susanoh
Tawaret
Tefnut
Tezcatlipoca
Thanatos
Thor
Thoth
Tiamat
Tianhou
Tlaloc
Tonatiuh
Toyo-Uke-Bime
Tyche
Tyr
Utu
Ullr
Uzume
Vediovis
Venus
Vesta
Vishnu
Volturnus
Vulcan
Xipe
Xi Wang-mu
Xochipilli
Xochiquetzal
Yam
Yarikh
Yhwh
Ymir
Yu-huang
Yum Kimil
Zeus
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09/06/2013 03:47 PM
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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
Seriously? learn where the bible and most religions came from. the truth is in the sumarian tablets
WAKE THE FUUUUUCK UP!
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09/06/2013 03:49 PM
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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
Cos Christ was born long before the bible.

OP is still a little children.
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09/06/2013 04:07 PM
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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
Cos Christ was born long before the bible.

OP is still a little children.
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09/06/2013 04:08 PM

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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
Bc the bible was written and retranscribe, retranslated countless time to fit the need of the person in charge.

that's why.
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09/06/2013 04:18 PM
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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
Seriously, everything happening right now was written about 4, 000 years ago and it's all comming into frutition exactly. War with Syria. Russia and other arab countries attacking Israel, Israel rebuilding the temple mount. Economic collapse, before you even knew the words "New World Order" it was written in the bible thousands of years ago about a one world government with a cashless monitored society.

Feel free to post verses from the bible that refer to Syria Gog and Magog Armagedeon as I am typing on my phone and its hard to write them.

To use the excuse that the leaders are following the bible exactly to somehow decieve the people makes no sense.

Do you honestly believe that the whole world nations and powers can be controlled in such a way, to follow something exactly to the dot? We can barley agree on simple things yet alone coordinate on that large of scale with countries like Iran, Syria, China, Russia or any other country for that matter.

Everything written in the bible about prophecy is happening exactly as written which proves the existence that an all knowing god wrote it, and the bible is true.

Meaning the part about ETERNAL life is also true. Gods promise and free gift is still alive today for everyone who chooses to accept it.

God came down from heaven in human form as Jesus and sacrificed himself and was slaughtered like an animal as a sacrifice for our sins.

That if we believe that he died for us, all of our sins are forgiven present and future and we will stand righteous before god and have everlasting life.

Not follow one thousand rules and if you mess up, or if you dont meditate properly you are doomed. Only pure love whould make it so easy and simple to live forever, just believe thats it.

If you have never known Jesus or had a personal relationship with him, or if you had at some point but never truly comitted your soul to him.

Today where ever you are in the world. You can pray this silently with no one even knowing.

Dear god lord Jesus, I believe that when you were crucified on the cross, you did it as a sacrifice for my Sins. I confess my sins before you and i know you will forgive them. I believe that you were raised from the dead. I want you to be my personal lord and my savior I want to have a personal loving relationship with you. In Jesus name amen.

If you prayed the above sincirely with all your heart and soul, you are forever saved. God says nobody can snatch you from his hand once you are in it. Of course we will sin and fall again just like we all do everyday, but our sins will be forgiven and god will truly change our lives.

A little bit about me. I was an athiest born a muslim, practiced new age. And one day when I felt real empty probably still high from weed. I got down on my knees and prayed from the bottom of my heart and soul with tears flowing down my face, sobbing, and prayed: God please show me the real you, I want to know who you really are, weather you are allah, buddah, jaweah or whoever, I want to know the creator of all the universe.

I also prayed for my perfect soul mate, no such thing but the best person for me, and for $6, 000 to buy a taxi car so I could work. Immediately the next day or two I spoke to this girl online and we both got an undescribable feeling that we were meant to be together forever, this connectedness thats undescribable. We have now been 8 years together.

Secondly, one of my penny stocks which for the last 3-4 years was worthless all of a sudden went up 10, 000% in one day and was worth $6, 000. Out of the millions of penny stocks out there a company chose this one to do a reverse merger.

Also, when me amd my current fiance spoke online some weird things happened. One time we flipped coins to see if we were meant to be together. We basically ended up flipping 5 seperate times and 5 times ina row and we kept getting the same outcomes! The chances of this happening are Iimpossible or a probability that it would never happen in thousands of life times.

Lastly, in msn messenger you can send messages and the person would recieve them when they signed on. I sent her about 11 messages, and she got all of them besides one when she signed on.

When I mentioned Jesus name talking about something, I wrote something about it, then the next line I wrote to Jesus

All of a sudden she got the missing message which said "I LOVE YOU"

I will end with this and I pray that god will save many souls and that you truly get to experience the love of Jesus the creator of the universe in your own lives.

Take Care
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45341679


You're story is almost the opposite of mine. I was born and raised a Christian. As I became an adult I began to question the reality of it all. Then, I finally got to point where I said a prayer...something like..."God, if you're out there give me a sign. I'll drop everything and champion for you. Just give me a sign. I want to do what is right. If you're truly out there and truly care, I know you will some day show me" Never got a thing. Years later, I became an atheist. It made sense to me that we're born, we live, we die and that's it. I was okay with that. I still practiced the Golden Rule just because it's a decent way to live. Then, at the age of 58 I had a heart attack and flat lined 3 times. My spirit/consciousness/essence was in a wonderful place. I sensed a dimension to myself that I'd never sensed before. What little information I got (that I remember) from that place came from within. No God, no Jesus, no judgement...only enlightenment. A presence there, but not God or Jesus as we've been taught.
What I got from this is it's not what you believe (or don't believe)...it's what's inside that's important. Practice the Golden Rule and look within yourself for love and understanding. (That's what Jesus meant when he said "the Kingdom is within...yes, there are a few truths in the Bible). When you do you will discover the importance of unconditional love and how it works. You will understand why people do the things they do and you will forgive them...no matter what it is they've done. You will forgive yourself because you know your ego and spirit are two different entities (it's like getting in a car and driving it. You have control of it...what are you going to do with it?). What happens in this life stays in this life and when the spirit leaves it's physical form it will come to know the value of unconditional love. That why some NDErs see God/Jesus...some don't. It's kind of a review of where you're consciousness was in this life.
I'm going to hear "oh, that's new age stuff" and negative comments like that. Well, that's okay. I don't care if you don't believe me...that's not important. But please follow the Golden Rule. It's okay to say "I don't believe you" but it's not okay to hate someone. Religion does that (especially the Abrahamic religions). They actually tend to sever the spirit from it's source. But if you feel you need religion and if your religion causes you practice unconditional love that's fine.
The bible is written by men, as are all religious texts. If any of them lead you to unconditional love, then that's good. When any of them lead to vanity, intolerance, or hate...that's bad. And indeed they do...especially the Abrahamic ones.
Peace and love to you.
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That's a cool story, but the heart can be decieving. Just because you were there when you flatlined a few times doesnt mean what you experienced was your final place where you will go.

Also, majority of NDE experiences have a very common vision of seeing black and white light, maybe what you experienced was a hallucination and not a NDE or actual physical death.

There are stories of people being dead for 10-20min or so. There was a lady non religioud never heard about Jesus or god. Drowned on a rapids trip for 20min or so, saw Jesus, told her it wasnt her time, told her that her son was going to die and she needed to tell people about it. Years later her son died exactly as said and she wrote a book about it.

The fact that people that are non religious who see anything resembling god almost all of them see Jesus, should be a pretty big sign who the right guy is.
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09/06/2013 04:19 PM
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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
Bc the bible was written and retranscribe, retranslated countless time to fit the need of the person in charge.

that's why.
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What need is that? To make people love eachother, omg these rulers are trying to control us, by making us love one another.
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09/06/2013 04:25 PM
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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
For the same reason I'm not turning my life over to a Brothers Grimm character.
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09/06/2013 04:32 PM

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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
honestly... after 2,000 years of waiting for your "savior" to return ... you have to wonder why people don't jump on his bandwagon

he FAIL to save himself - what makes you think that even if he returned, that he could save YOU ... or why he WOULD save your sorry ass -

same goes for your GOD - who obviously hates humanty ... what has he done for you lately ... I mean really he gave you the brains to save yourself ... why not
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09/06/2013 04:34 PM
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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
honestly... after 2,000 years of waiting for your "savior" to return ... you have to wonder why people don't jump on his bandwagon

he FAIL to save himself - what makes you think that even if he returned, that he could save YOU ... or why he WOULD save your sorry ass -

same goes for your GOD - who obviously hates humanty ... what has he done for you lately ... I mean really he gave you the brains to save yourself ... why not
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


He could of saved himself chose not to. He came here to die if you didnt clearly read, which you havent by your statements.
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09/06/2013 04:42 PM

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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
he told everyone that he was NOT the Messiah or their "savior" ... his mission here, was to convince you that DEATH is not real ... that there is no "reward or punishment" in an AFTER life, because there isn't any after-life .... LIFE IS ETERNAL

but Noooooo the humans wanted a Savior - so that's what they turned him into - even after he returned from Death

he isn't coming back - what would be the point - you are perfectly capable of saving yourself ... and the truth will set you free from religion
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09/06/2013 04:43 PM
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Re: How are you people not believing the bible and turning your life over to Christ?
Gosh, OP, I guess it's pretty similar to not believing in a Ponzi scheme, pyramid scam or any other similar mass marketing gimmick, and turning one's life over to an ethereal stranger.
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God sacrificed himself to himself to appease his anger at us for being sinful, exactly the way he made us. He could have made us sinless at birth but chose to give us our own free will. Now if we can't believe in crazy stories, like this blood sacrifice one, and use our free will to believe in reality, this same God has chosen to create a place of eternal torture for us. So he will burn his beloved creations alive forever because we can't believe in this story. And even though God knows everything that will happen from the very start, we are still supposed to believe we have free will, even though it makes no sense. WOW, that really is amazing grace!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


The story is historical nothing crazy about it. Him knowing everything doesnt change your free will. If I know what your going to do tomorrow doesnt not impact your free will at all.

You burn yourself your the one who chooses with your own free will to believ or not, your decision leads you there. He tries everything in his power to not lead you there.

Lastly, he created us, we are sinful scumbags so he has every right to destroy every single one of us. His love shows that he gives us an option to be saved, and option that no one person on earth deserves.

If I drew something and didnt like the way it turned out I would destroy it and remake it. God on the other hand being loving sacrificed himself to not destroy us.

Yes he knew that we would be sinners, he actually made us without sin, but we chose it. End of the day he knew we would all sin, and he still created us because he knew some of us would still be saved.

Instead of not creating us at all, he decided too so a few can be created even if the rest destroy themselves.
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