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Can someone please explain to me why sect christian groups (non catholic) do not like catholics?

 
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Can someone please explain to me why sect christian groups (non catholic) do not like catholics?
When in fact it was the Catholic church that was the FIRST church, of which Paul was a part of. In addition, it was the Catholic Church that compiled the Bible during Trent and Nicea, which is the same book sect christian groups use today. So if the Catholics are corrupt, as many sect christians have told me (baptist, mormon, jehovahs witnesses, lutherans, etc) then why do they adhere to a book compiled by a corrupt group?
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No one?

Surely, since the Catholics were the founding church they should be the correct version of christianity correct? Anything else would be a derivation...
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Most Protestants and other non-Catholic Christian denominations, I think, don't like the Catholic church's emphasis on material wealth, on ceremony, on ritual, on idol worship, on icons, and overall an emphasis on the rituals of worship as opposed to acting right in the first place.

Confession is another issue. Catholics believe you can be absolved of your sins if you confess them. Protestants believe God doesn't run a forgiveness drive thru, but rather that you should alter your behavior so as to act rightly in the first place.
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Back when I was growing up in a baptist church, they believed you should pray only to god and/or jesus. Praying to mary or a saint is making a fake god out of a person and a sin because you are worshipping another god. There should be no statues or other images that you bow down to like the catholics. It is a violation of the third commandment. Artistic images are ok, like the cross on the top of a building or necklaces because nobody bows to it.

Bible says forgiveness of sin is only possible by the father through the blood of jesus - nowhere is a priest and confession involved. Direct line of speech from you to them, represented by the curtain between the holy of holies being torn.

Basically catholics put the church BETWEEN you and god, while protestants go straight to god for a personal one on one relationship with the voices in their head.
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If you don't love all people everywhere, you're not really a Christian. I love people of all faiths, but I am against SYSTEMS of false worship, like the Papacy and catholicism in general. You can love the people and not approve of the religion, they're not the same thing.
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Back when I was growing up in a baptist church, they believed you should pray only to god and/or jesus. Praying to mary or a saint is making a fake god out of a person and a sin because you are worshipping another god. There should be no statues or other images that you bow down to like the catholics. It is a violation of the third commandment. Artistic images are ok, like the cross on the top of a building or necklaces because nobody bows to it.

Bible says forgiveness of sin is only possible by the father through the blood of jesus - nowhere is a priest and confession involved. Direct line of speech from you to them, represented by the curtain between the holy of holies being torn.

Basically catholics put the church BETWEEN you and god, while protestants go straight to god for a personal one on one relationship with the voices in their head.
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Re: Can someone please explain to me why sect christian groups (non catholic) do not like catholics?
No one?

Surely, since the Catholics were the founding church they should be the correct version of christianity correct? Anything else would be a derivation...
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No, that doesn't mean they have the correct version and the church structure was here long before catholicism existed, they didn't found it. The bible predicted a falling away would come within the church and that a power would come along who would try to exalt themselves and claim the prerogatives of God, that was Catholicism, the pope, the priests, etc . Most of their teachings are FAR from the correct version of true Christianity of Jesus and the disciples and even the early church!!
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No one?

Surely, since the Catholics were the founding church they should be the correct version of christianity correct? Anything else would be a derivation...
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Not the founding church unless they were at Antioch. Sorry. They are a cult. Nothing more.
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Re: Can someone please explain to me why sect christian groups (non catholic) do not like catholics?
Catholics aren't special--all Christian sects disapprove of all other Christian sects, and all other faiths in general.
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Re: Can someone please explain to me why sect christian groups (non catholic) do not like catholics?
The protestants movement was a breaking away from the catholic interpretation of the bible. That is where their roots originated.

They basically don't believe that Catholicism is Christianity. They view it almost like Mormonism i think.
A false interpretation and bastardized interpretation of the scriptures.

They are fighting over who the real Christians are.
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If you don't love all people everywhere, you're not really a Christian. I love people of all faiths, but I am against SYSTEMS of false worship, like the Papacy and catholicism in general. You can love the people and not approve of the religion, they're not the same thing.
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Main reasons for Christian opposition to Catholicism: (1) idolatry, (2) worship of Mary, (3) continuation of paganism dressed in Christian garb, (4) infallibility of pope, (5) blasphemy of pope.
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Re: Can someone please explain to me why sect christian groups (non catholic) do not like catholics?
OP, If you REALLY want to know, watch the entire 11 hours of "Know Your Enemy". You can order the CD or watch it free on You tube or thsi website:

[link to www.thefuelproject.org]

Then you will know. Most Christians do not know, and are not taught this info. The majority of Churches are afraid to. They are too busy making people feel good and conforming to the world. Don't get me wrong, I am a Christian, but many Churches are getting it wrong with their apostate seeker sensitive format.

You have to watch ALL of it from the intro to the end.
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Re: Can someone please explain to me why sect christian groups (non catholic) do not like catholics?
When in fact it was the Catholic church that was the FIRST church, of which Paul was a part of. In addition, it was the Catholic Church that compiled the Bible during Trent and Nicea, which is the same book sect christian groups use today. So if the Catholics are corrupt, as many sect christians have told me (baptist, mormon, jehovahs witnesses, lutherans, etc) then why do they adhere to a book compiled by a corrupt group?
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It is not a fact that the Catholic Church was the first church. The original churches existed for 290 years before Catholicism was codified at Nicea. It then took 1,200 years to return to original Christianity in the West with the advent of Protestantism, starting with Luther.
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Re: Can someone please explain to me why sect christian groups (non catholic) do not like catholics?
The catholic faith at its ROOTS is the pure bride of Christ.

Mary shields the church with her prayers.

The saints stand with them as well, praying and interceding in behalf of the humble requests of the devout catholic.

Logically, the rosary makes perfect sense; Mary was in close proximity and fellowship with Jesus almost his entire life! Surly she is in heaven at this moment and surly she is alive and watches the world as one by one turns towards or away from her son. Why not ask her for her prayers? can she not pray? does she not care? if I wanted a better relationship with Jesus, do I know want to know about his mother?

the roots of Catholicism contain precious sacraments and rituals that all point to Jesus. Mary points to Jesus, the Eucharist points to Jesus. Of course the devil will attack the bride without rest to turn people away from the faith. And surly he has done a good job in discrediting the catholic church. But if that's all you see when you think of the catholic church you have been robbed of a most wonderful calling. Jesus wants YOU. and no you can be non catholic and be a child of God. But most people just see the catholic church as a lost people. THE ENTIRE CHURCH IS LOST. so instead of trying to discredit another belief, examine your own belief and make sure you are right before God. He will not ask you to speak on behalf of your denomination; He will ask you to give an account of your own belief and what you did during the time you had on earth.

A vegetarian is not wrong, a meat eater is not wrong. neither is a Jesus loving non catholic and a Jesus loving catholic.
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Main reasons for Christian opposition to Catholicism: (1) idolatry, (2) worship of Mary, (3) continuation of paganism dressed in Christian garb, (4) infallibility of pope, (5) blasphemy of pope.
 Quoting: Metaniomenos


the enemy has crept into your mind in regards to how you perceive the church.

are you familiar with the prayers? the chaplets? the presence of Jesus in the Eucharist?

at the roots of Catholicism there lies the pure bride.
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Because they make it up as they go along. They literally sell "get out of hell" free cards.

My family had a document from them absolving us from hell.

They have some nerve, blasphem much?
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Its all about numbers......these denominations are trying to chip away at the giant to gain more denomination. Its like mom and pop shops going after Walmart.
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When in fact it was the Catholic church that was the FIRST church, of which Paul was a part of. In addition, it was the Catholic Church that compiled the Bible during Trent and Nicea, which is the same book sect christian groups use today. So if the Catholics are corrupt, as many sect christians have told me (baptist, mormon, jehovahs witnesses, lutherans, etc) then why do they adhere to a book compiled by a corrupt group?
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Catholics are not bibilcal.

Nice try.

Things not in Christian bible:
Popes
Biships
Cardinals
Capital cities for official church heirarchies
Purgatory
Nuns

Just for starters.
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the rcc is plain and simple a cult. The clergy and rcc catechism/dogma instills that only "motherchurch" is holy and of God. In actuality, what the clergy and mother teach is to put faith in motherchurch and trust her rather than God...

catholic dogma instills fear in catholics with all their "one true church" bullshit. catholics are educated in catechism class that anyone not baptized who dies will go to hell, and that anyone not in motherchurch is also not right with God.

catholic dogma and practices mean that catholics are afraid to interact with Christians and don't have any level of trust for their neighbors and acquaintances who aren't rcc.


Christians, and this is speaking as a former-catholic myself, bring The Gospel to catholics and are usually rejected. catholics can't understand that there are Major Differences in the dogma of their religion and that of The Gospel and many Bible-teaching churches. Most early Reformation churches have re-unioned with rome/the rcc and so have embraced many catholic dogma.

As to the perception that catholics are "disliked", plenty of Christians marry catholics; but the church takes dim view of mixed-marriage and always insists that children of such marriage be raised catholic...

the rcc has very little in common with Christianity as it is all about church rather than God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Ghost.

Probably more Christians feel sorry for catholics they have tried to carry The Gospel to than "dislike" them. It is a very sad thing to see people who could really blossom forth In Relationship With God continue to be mired-down in the bullshit their cult foist on them in God's Name...
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Re: Can someone please explain to me why sect christian groups (non catholic) do not like catholics?
The catholic faith at its ROOTS is the pure bride of Christ.

Mary shields the church with her prayers.

The saints stand with them as well, praying and interceding in behalf of the humble requests of the devout catholic.

Logically, the rosary makes perfect sense; Mary was in close proximity and fellowship with Jesus almost his entire life! Surly she is in heaven at this moment and surly she is alive and watches the world as one by one turns towards or away from her son. Why not ask her for her prayers? can she not pray? does she not care? if I wanted a better relationship with Jesus, do I know want to know about his mother?

the roots of Catholicism contain precious sacraments and rituals that all point to Jesus. Mary points to Jesus, the Eucharist points to Jesus. Of course the devil will attack the bride without rest to turn people away from the faith. And surly he has done a good job in discrediting the catholic church. But if that's all you see when you think of the catholic church you have been robbed of a most wonderful calling. Jesus wants YOU. and no you can be non catholic and be a child of God. But most people just see the catholic church as a lost people. THE ENTIRE CHURCH IS LOST. so instead of trying to discredit another belief, examine your own belief and make sure you are right before God. He will not ask you to speak on behalf of your denomination; He will ask you to give an account of your own belief and what you did during the time you had on earth.

A vegetarian is not wrong, a meat eater is not wrong. neither is a Jesus loving non catholic and a Jesus loving catholic.
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Christ Gave HIS Life To Enable those whose hearts were Called By The Father to Come Into HIS Presence and surrender their lives Unto The Father.

catholicism has served to deny God since 300ad when Constantine needed to pacify Easter Euro tribes that had worshipped god in female form; so "mother Mary" was deified and The Gospel was perverted.

The Reformation was and remains True.
Of the 95 Theses Luther posted, he stated that "had Rome admitted that the purpose of The Gospel was to bring men to Know God Personally and Directly", he would have re-unioned with rome...

the rcc denies The Gospel.
Lies are endemic throughout its hierarchy and dogma.
the church manipulates and interprets The Gospel for its own purposes and denies The Witness of Christ, St. John and St. Paul.


Mary is dead in her grave and awaits The Resurrection Of The Dead In-Christ.
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"Protestants believe God doesn't run a forgiveness drive thru, but rather that you should alter your behavior so as to act rightly in the first place."

Actually, I've found this to be quite the opposite. As young Catholics, we were instructed that good deeds and confession of sins were necessary. Confessing one's sins is a way to take responsibility for them.

Protestants, on the other hand, seem obsessed with Jesus. You can sit through a long drawn out service and never hear the word God once. Our masses centered on God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, or the Trinity.

I liked the ritual of the Mass growing up. It was comforting. We were not pressured to prosthelyze like many Protestant kids are. We just did good works at home and in our community.

We did not worship Mary, but we did pray to her and other saints for guidance. She was Jesus' mother afterall. Saints are simply Christian role models. Good luck finding a real Christian role model in modern times!

The Catholic Church, as an institution, is corrupt-- as are all human institutions. Local churches, however do a lot of good in the community and Catholics are usually conservative and non-aggressive. We were bullied--literally-- by the Baptist community as kids. We were told we were evil and that we would burn in hell. We were made fun of for fasting during Lenten time.

No priest ever tried to molest me or anything but I was fondled by a Baptist youth minister at my friend's Vacation Bible School event one summer. He was trying to "convert" me. Youth ministers are creepy, period.

Btw, I am no longer a practicing Catholic but have nothing but good memories of my religious upbringing.
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The catholic faith at its ROOTS is the pure bride of Christ.

Mary shields the church with her prayers.

The saints stand with them as well, praying and interceding in behalf of the humble requests of the devout catholic.

Logically, the rosary makes perfect sense; Mary was in close proximity and fellowship with Jesus almost his entire life! Surly she is in heaven at this moment and surly she is alive and watches the world as one by one turns towards or away from her son. Why not ask her for her prayers? can she not pray? does she not care? if I wanted a better relationship with Jesus, do I know want to know about his mother?

the roots of Catholicism contain precious sacraments and rituals that all point to Jesus. Mary points to Jesus, the Eucharist points to Jesus. Of course the devil will attack the bride without rest to turn people away from the faith. And surly he has done a good job in discrediting the catholic church. But if that's all you see when you think of the catholic church you have been robbed of a most wonderful calling. Jesus wants YOU. and no you can be non catholic and be a child of God. But most people just see the catholic church as a lost people. THE ENTIRE CHURCH IS LOST. so instead of trying to discredit another belief, examine your own belief and make sure you are right before God. He will not ask you to speak on behalf of your denomination; He will ask you to give an account of your own belief and what you did during the time you had on earth.

A vegetarian is not wrong, a meat eater is not wrong. neither is a Jesus loving non catholic and a Jesus loving catholic.
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Christ Gave HIS Life To Enable those whose hearts were Called By The Father to Come Into HIS Presence and surrender their lives Unto The Father.

catholicism has served to deny God since 300ad when Constantine needed to pacify Easter Euro tribes that had worshipped god in female form; so "mother Mary" was deified and The Gospel was perverted.

The Reformation was and remains True.
Of the 95 Theses Luther posted, he stated that "had Rome admitted that the purpose of The Gospel was to bring men to Know God Personally and Directly", he would have re-unioned with rome...

the rcc denies The Gospel.
Lies are endemic throughout its hierarchy and dogma.
the church manipulates and interprets The Gospel for its own purposes and denies The Witness of Christ, St. John and St. Paul.


Mary is dead in her grave and awaits The Resurrection Of The Dead In-Christ.
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that's your way I guess
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Re: Can someone please explain to me why sect christian groups (non catholic) do not like catholics?
I view devout catholics as no different than those Christians who are Laodicean.


Everyone who Loves Christ Jesus and KNOWS WHO HE IS has had their heart Called BY The Father. If you KNOW Christ Jesus IS God THE SON; then God The Father Has Called your heart; meaning HE Wants To KNOW You Personally and Directly.

The Gospel Witnesses that it is up to you to take action...


Not like you're ever gonna hear that from a rcc priest or in a Laodicean denomination church.


If you make your surrender Unto The Father, HE Will Give you A New Heart Of HIS Flesh and Enable you to Know and Do HIS Will and live a life without sin. Such is The Witness of Ezekiel 36:26-27, The Witness of Jesus in John ch 17, Witness of St. John in 1st Epistle 2:20-27 and St. Paul...


Don't matter how devout a Christian or catholic you are, until you can Trust God Fully with every aspect of your life, HE Don't Know you. Jesus Witnesses this several times.


the rcc denies The Father's Plan for mankind and seeks to thwart and mitigate Christ Jesus' Sacrifice. Were it not easily seen to be deliberate it would be merely a sick perversion of God's Truth. Yet, there is no doubt that at the highest clergy level, the rcc serves God's enemy...

The rcc and Laodicea Christianity are what they are.

Jesus did not Give HIS Life to enable a denomination or religion, but To Enable Every Called Heart To Come Unto The Father.


"No man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME" John 14:6

the rcc sacraments are a lie. the rcc clergy is a lie.

St. John Witnesses that "Because you have An Unction From The Holy One, you Know ALL Things and need no man to teach you"...

If Born-Again you Know and Have Relationship With Father-God Directly and Have The Holy Spirit Dwelling within To Give Witness of HIMSelf in others and The Scripture. This is THE WAY Christ Jesus Gave HIS Life To Enable for you...

If you Love HIM, can you seek The Father in earnest/sincere prayer and give HIM full control over every aspect of your life?
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When in fact it was the Catholic church that was the FIRST church, of which Paul was a part of. In addition, it was the Catholic Church that compiled the Bible during Trent and Nicea, which is the same book sect christian groups use today. So if the Catholics are corrupt, as many sect christians have told me (baptist, mormon, jehovahs witnesses, lutherans, etc) then why do they adhere to a book compiled by a corrupt group?
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I think your facts are a little askew.
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Let's unite all of the Church on the New Jerusalem calendar.


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Most Protestants and other non-Catholic Christian denominations, I think, don't like the Catholic church's emphasis on material wealth, on ceremony, on ritual, on idol worship, on icons, and overall an emphasis on the rituals of worship as opposed to acting right in the first place.

Confession is another issue. Catholics believe you can be absolved of your sins if you confess them. Protestants believe God doesn't run a forgiveness drive thru, but rather that you should alter your behavior so as to act rightly in the first place.
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this and the mary and saint worship. it is as if they have never read the bible in their lives. and what is up with all of the occult symbolism at the vatican? we havent even mentioned the untold murders that were committed during the inquisition all for the crime of owning or distributing bibles. come out of the catholic church it is obviously corrupt. i care about what jesus and his word has to say not some church of man.
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AC,

The only true thing you have posted here, is "that's your way I guess"...


You are only guessing.

I was born into catholicism and educated therein through University, devout and strong in the faith; and then I came to a point in my life where I chose to surrender my life Unto The Father...

At that moment, which I still recall vividly and perfectly, I was In The Father's Presence and Brought Into Accord With HIM.


Having been devout catholic, I had to admit to God that I KNEW Jesus To BE God The SON, but didn't understand HIS role in The Plan, so I told Father, Elohim, YahWeh, Jehovah, "I am giving my life to YOU".

A catholic who had 30hrs of catholic university theology and philosophy, but had to admit to God I didn't Know how Jesus fit into HIS Plan. I Knew HE was mankind's Saviour and Redeemer; God The Son, but nothing more...

As a Born-Again though, God Never had me return to the catholic church... What I have Seen and Been Given To Know is that no one who IS Born-Again per Ezekiel 36:26-27 could continue to associate with a church or group that denies The Gospel and Truth they have come to Know...


Afraid to Trust God?
Such is the cult bullshit that rcc instills working on you and your fears.
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They're idiots. I do not belong to any Christian church, but I can tell that protestants are generally uneducated and ignorant.
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Re: Can someone please explain to me why sect christian groups (non catholic) do not like catholics?
OP, If you REALLY want to know, watch the entire 11 hours of "Know Your Enemy". You can order the CD or watch it free on You tube or thsi website:

[link to www.thefuelproject.org]

Then you will know. Most Christians do not know, and are not taught this info. The majority of Churches are afraid to. They are too busy making people feel good and conforming to the world. Don't get me wrong, I am a Christian, but many Churches are getting it wrong with their apostate seeker sensitive format.

You have to watch ALL of it from the intro to the end.
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this is a great series that i highly advise others to watch as well.

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