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ObamaCare - WTF???

 
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My husband's company sent out a flyer to employees regarding ObamaCare. It talked about new changes. One bullet-point stated, "Reporting the value of your medical coverage on your W-2." There was no other explanation.

So, you ObamaCare lovers - does this mean that if you have your appendix out and the hospital bill is $50K (like my son's was), you will have to pay taxes on this $50K insurance paid?

That will break people. It's already difficult for people to meet their portions of medical care. Certainly they don't expect us all to pay premiums, co-pays, our portions of the bills, and then taxes on the portions the insurance companies pay on our illnesses and preventative care (which they are forcing on us)?

Any experts out there who can answer this question for me???
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09/07/2013 03:26 PM
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could be the "value' of the insurance premium (policy) will be considered as income

Nobody really knows yet...
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could be the "value' of the insurance premium (policy) will be considered as income

Nobody really knows yet...
 Quoting: Soup Nazi


I wonder how they would calculate that?

This health care stuff is getting to be a big headache. Personally, I don't know why employers are even forced to be in the business of providing healthcare programs to their employees and then funding them.

There should be a set rate we all pay. We get our eligibility voucher (bill) once we turn in our yearly taxes. Once we get the voucher - we pay that bill and then they send us our current year's insurance card. No taxes paid - no voucher. No voucher - no insurance card. No insurance card - no healthcare.

Why are they making it so darned difficult?


I try not to believe it when people post that the government is purposely trying to bankrupt us all. But when they come out with these kinds of things (I won't even go in to the subject of Syria) it's difficult to believe they really have our best interests at heart.
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Bang goes your teeth. Welcome to the club.
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My husband's company sent out a flyer to employees regarding ObamaCare. It talked about new changes. One bullet-point stated, "Reporting the value of your medical coverage on your W-2." There was no other explanation.

So, you ObamaCare lovers - does this mean that if you have your appendix out and the hospital bill is $50K (like my son's was), you will have to pay taxes on this $50K insurance paid?

That will break people. It's already difficult for people to meet their portions of medical care. Certainly they don't expect us all to pay premiums, co-pays, our portions of the bills, and then taxes on the portions the insurance companies pay on our illnesses and preventative care (which they are forcing on us)?

Any experts out there who can answer this question for me???
 Quoting: Duped 45485322


Consider yourself lucky on an appendix

You don't state how old you are but per O care at the age of 70 you are considered "non viable" and are slated for extermination!

How old Are you now?
I have 9 years to live.
AND I AM PAYING FOR THAT!
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09/07/2013 04:50 PM
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First off, if you're stupid enough to even be planning to participate in obongocare, you deserve to be fleeced.
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My husband's company sent out a flyer to employees regarding ObamaCare. It talked about new changes. One bullet-point stated, "Reporting the value of your medical coverage on your W-2." There was no other explanation.

So, you ObamaCare lovers - does this mean that if you have your appendix out and the hospital bill is $50K (like my son's was), you will have to pay taxes on this $50K insurance paid?

That will break people. It's already difficult for people to meet their portions of medical care. Certainly they don't expect us all to pay premiums, co-pays, our portions of the bills, and then taxes on the portions the insurance companies pay on our illnesses and preventative care (which they are forcing on us)?

Any experts out there who can answer this question for me???
 Quoting: Duped 45485322


Consider yourself lucky on an appendix

You don't state how old you are but per O care at the age of 70 you are considered "non viable" and are slated for extermination!

How old Are you now?
I have 9 years to live.
AND I AM PAYING FOR THAT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14619496


I still have a couple of decades to go to get to 70. The best you can hope for is to maintain good health and then suddenly drop dead when you are about 80.
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First off, if you're stupid enough to even be planning to participate in obongocare, you deserve to be fleeced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28391992


If you have a job you are participating in the Obamacare Program. You don't have a choice. Quitting our jobs and dropping out of society just so you can go underground, so to speak, and not participate merely is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

We have a nice home and good jobs. But we already pay through the nose for taxes. We don't need to pay health care at the highest incremental tax rate. That's BS if I ever heard it.
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First off, if you're stupid enough to even be planning to participate in obongocare, you deserve to be fleeced.
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this
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My husband's company sent out a flyer to employees regarding ObamaCare. It talked about new changes. One bullet-point stated, "Reporting the value of your medical coverage on your W-2." There was no other explanation.

So, you ObamaCare lovers - does this mean that if you have your appendix out and the hospital bill is $50K (like my son's was), you will have to pay taxes on this $50K insurance paid?

That will break people. It's already difficult for people to meet their portions of medical care. Certainly they don't expect us all to pay premiums, co-pays, our portions of the bills, and then taxes on the portions the insurance companies pay on our illnesses and preventative care (which they are forcing on us)?

Any experts out there who can answer this question for me???
 Quoting: Duped 45485322


No, you won't have to pay taxes on the money the insurance pays for your care.

But, if you get any kind of insurance from your employer, you will have to pay taxes on the amount your employer pays to the insurance company for you.

Lots of people are going to be really ticked off soon!
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My husband's company sent out a flyer to employees regarding ObamaCare. It talked about new changes. One bullet-point stated, "Reporting the value of your medical coverage on your W-2." There was no other explanation.

So, you ObamaCare lovers - does this mean that if you have your appendix out and the hospital bill is $50K (like my son's was), you will have to pay taxes on this $50K insurance paid?

That will break people. It's already difficult for people to meet their portions of medical care. Certainly they don't expect us all to pay premiums, co-pays, our portions of the bills, and then taxes on the portions the insurance companies pay on our illnesses and preventative care (which they are forcing on us)?

Any experts out there who can answer this question for me???
 Quoting: Duped 45485322


No, you won't have to pay taxes on the money the insurance pays for your care.

But, if you get any kind of insurance from your employer, you will have to pay taxes on the amount your employer pays to the insurance company for you.

Lots of people are going to be really ticked off soon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46479642


yeah more income... crazy stuff ...geared towards a single (big bro) payer system of control.
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First off, if you're stupid enough to even be planning to participate in obongocare, you deserve to be fleeced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28391992


If you have a job you are participating in the Obamacare Program. You don't have a choice. Quitting our jobs and dropping out of society just so you can go underground, so to speak, and not participate merely is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

We have a nice home and good jobs. But we already pay through the nose for taxes. We don't need to pay health care at the highest incremental tax rate. That's BS if I ever heard it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45485322


Well you deserve to be fleeced because you are STUPID, you know-it-all jackass. You can have your employer stop withholding on federal and state taxes and pay your own taxes at the end of the year. The irs has NO authority to collect any "tax penalties" from you regarding not buying health insurance
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09/07/2013 05:28 PM
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No authority and no tax liens. If you weren't such a mindless stupid cow, you'd know that
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09/07/2013 05:30 PM
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good job sucking dicks it seems. Certainly nothing YOU have done, on your own
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09/07/2013 05:32 PM
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Went rom highschool to a welfare job...but hey, if that's all you can manage...just pay your "mandatory" health insurance and suck that dick
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LOL
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My husband's company sent out a flyer to employees regarding ObamaCare. It talked about new changes. One bullet-point stated, "Reporting the value of your medical coverage on your W-2." There was no other explanation.

So, you ObamaCare lovers - does this mean that if you have your appendix out and the hospital bill is $50K (like my son's was), you will have to pay taxes on this $50K insurance paid?

That will break people.
It's already difficult for people to meet their portions of medical care. Certainly they don't expect us all to pay premiums, co-pays, our portions of the bills, and then taxes on the portions the insurance companies pay on our illnesses and preventative care (which they are forcing on us)?

Any experts out there who can answer this question for me???
 Quoting: Duped 45485322


There are going to be LOTS people who WONT PAY....and CANNOT pay.

Going to be interesting to see how they are going to put everyone in prison.

jail
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if he striks syria and gets impeached... what happens to obamacare i wonder? i sure effing hope that the 'republicans' force a gov shut down. THIS IS BAD NEWS BEARS!!!
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obamacare: Combining the worst of private and government run healthcare.

o'commie

Last Edited by Sikhed on 09/07/2013 05:48 PM
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if he striks syria and gets impeached... what happens to obamacare i wonder? i sure effing hope that the 'republicans' force a gov shut down. THIS IS BAD NEWS BEARS!!!
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Nothing.
It just means we get retard Biden.


The idiot is preferable over a pure evil Marxist Muslim USA hater though.
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could be the "value' of the insurance premium (policy) will be considered as income

Nobody really knows yet...
 Quoting: Soup Nazi


I wonder how they would calculate that?

This health care stuff is getting to be a big headache. Personally, I don't know why employers are even forced to be in the business of providing healthcare programs to their employees and then funding them.

There should be a set rate we all pay. We get our eligibility voucher (bill) once we turn in our yearly taxes. Once we get the voucher - we pay that bill and then they send us our current year's insurance card. No taxes paid - no voucher. No voucher - no insurance card. No insurance card - no healthcare.

Why are they making it so darned difficult?


I try not to believe it when people post that the government is purposely trying to bankrupt us all. But when they come out with these kinds of things (I won't even go in to the subject of Syria) it's difficult to believe they really have our best interests at heart.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45485322


Or"we" could just try freedom and not have any of that nanny state totalitarian control freak garbage but I guess that is out of the question.

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 09/07/2013 05:53 PM
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if he striks syria and gets impeached... what happens to obamacare i wonder? i sure effing hope that the 'republicans' force a gov shut down. THIS IS BAD NEWS BEARS!!!
 Quoting: webbyBird


Nothing.
It just means we get retard Biden.


The idiot is preferable over a pure evil Marxist Muslim USA hater though.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


The USA can survive a retard president: We got 8 years of Bush junior. bushtard

But we as a nation will not survive another full term of obama.
doom360
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09/07/2013 06:03 PM
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I can see the suicide rates skyrocketing under Obamacare.
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My husband's company sent out a flyer to employees regarding ObamaCare. It talked about new changes. One bullet-point stated, "Reporting the value of your medical coverage on your W-2." There was no other explanation.

So, you ObamaCare lovers - does this mean that if you have your appendix out and the hospital bill is $50K (like my son's was), you will have to pay taxes on this $50K insurance paid?

That will break people. It's already difficult for people to meet their portions of medical care. Certainly they don't expect us all to pay premiums, co-pays, our portions of the bills, and then taxes on the portions the insurance companies pay on our illnesses and preventative care (which they are forcing on us)?

Any experts out there who can answer this question for me???
 Quoting: Duped 45485322


No, you won't have to pay taxes on the money the insurance pays for your care.

But, if you get any kind of insurance from your employer, you will have to pay taxes on the amount your employer pays to the insurance company for you.

Lots of people are going to be really ticked off soon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46479642




Yes, I believe this is how it will work. You pay taxes on the premiums your employer pays for your insurance.


Totally sucks and may be just enough to put many in a higher tax bracket as well.


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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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I can see the suicide rates skyrocketing under Obamacare.
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yes.
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Obama-Care, an oxymoron
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My husband's company sent out a flyer to employees regarding ObamaCare. It talked about new changes. One bullet-point stated, "Reporting the value of your medical coverage on your W-2." There was no other explanation.

So, you ObamaCare lovers - does this mean that if you have your appendix out and the hospital bill is $50K (like my son's was), you will have to pay taxes on this $50K insurance paid?

That will break people. It's already difficult for people to meet their portions of medical care. Certainly they don't expect us all to pay premiums, co-pays, our portions of the bills, and then taxes on the portions the insurance companies pay on our illnesses and preventative care (which they are forcing on us)?

Any experts out there who can answer this question for me???
 Quoting: Duped 45485322


No, you won't have to pay taxes on the money the insurance pays for your care.

But, if you get any kind of insurance from your employer, you will have to pay taxes on the amount your employer pays to the insurance company for you.

Lots of people are going to be really ticked off soon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46479642


FALSE

I believe Obamcare is bad, don't like it nor believe that it's going to stay alive BUT if you are going to be against it, at least take time to find out what you can about it. Use Google or what ever search engine you prefer with: "Reporting the value of your medical coverage on your W-2" and you will find for yourself, now with that said whoc knows what may change in the future and perhaps will become taxable but not at this time.

Currently you do not have to pay or incure any tax liablity on the amount that your employer pays for your group health insurance.

[link to www.irs.gov]

Q1. Does the cost of an employee’s health care benefits shown on the Form W-2 mean that the benefits are taxable to the employee?

A. No. There is nothing about the reporting requirement that causes or will cause excludable employer-provided health coverage to become taxable. The purpose of the reporting requirement is to provide employees useful and comparable consumer information on the cost of their health care coverage.
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First off, if you're stupid enough to even be planning to participate in obongocare, you deserve to be fleeced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28391992


if you're 'on the grid' so to speak and pay taxes, it's going to be unavoidable
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First off, if you're stupid enough to even be planning to participate in obongocare, you deserve to be fleeced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28391992


if you're 'on the grid' so to speak and pay taxes, it's going to be unavoidable
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45645938


There are MANY who will not be physically able to pay.
The government is going to have to build a lot more prisons.
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First off, if you're stupid enough to even be planning to participate in obongocare, you deserve to be fleeced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28391992


if you're 'on the grid' so to speak and pay taxes, it's going to be unavoidable
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45645938


There are MANY who will not be physically able to pay.
The government is going to have to build a lot more prisons.
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Haliburton's been building a shitload for the past 10 years.

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