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Well before you lock yourselves up in your bunker do not forget the 2 things which you simply can not survive without and these are fine red wine and chocolate can anyone hope to enjoy the Apocalypse without these.

I do believe with these 2 items your Apocalyptic experience will be a more pleasant one....
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I'm in the same boat. I posted a thread a couple weeks back, with the list of things I just bought, and a lot of members posted with some really amazing responses. I have a 3 yr. old & its hard trying to save $ for anything. I'm adding to it in little bits each week.

Also, buying a gas can each paycheck & filling it is a damn good idea I didn't think of before....should've been the first thing after water. Especially when gas prices start going up, which is already happening.

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I'm in the same boat. I posted a thread a couple weeks back, with the list of things I just bought, and a lot of members posted with some really amazing responses. I have a 3 yr. old & its hard trying to save $ for anything. I'm adding to it in little bits each week.

Also, buying a gas can each paycheck & filling it is a damn good idea I didn't think of before....should've been the first thing after water. Especially when gas prices start going up, which is already happening.

Thread: Prepping & Supplies for SHTF
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Storing gas long-term requires adding stabilizer
and regular venting (opening and resealing) the cans.
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Canned beans are cheap
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Eww I can't stand beans aside from Mild Chili but I meant besides that, and I have a very picky boy too.
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When you get hungry enough you'll eat those beans like they're going out of style. Those beans will be so good to you and your formerly picky boy that you wont be able to get enough of them!

A limited diet is poor survival strategy.
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I'm in the same boat. I posted a thread a couple weeks back, with the list of things I just bought, and a lot of members posted with some really amazing responses. I have a 3 yr. old & its hard trying to save $ for anything. I'm adding to it in little bits each week.

Also, buying a gas can each paycheck & filling it is a damn good idea I didn't think of before....should've been the first thing after water. Especially when gas prices start going up, which is already happening.

Thread: Prepping & Supplies for SHTF
 Quoting: Halo2Alexis™


Storing gas long-term requires adding stabilizer
and regular venting (opening and resealing) the cans.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


Even then the gas won't keep more than a couple years at best.

If you are really looking for long term vehicle fuel storage you have to go the diesel fuel route.
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Canned beans are cheap
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Eww I can't stand beans aside from Mild Chili but I meant besides that, and I have a very picky boy too.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


When you get hungry enough you'll eat those beans like they're going out of style. Those beans will be so good to you and your formerly picky boy that you wont be able to get enough of them!

A limited diet is poor survival strategy.
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If water is/will be available, dried legumes are a better choice.
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Canned beans are cheap
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Eww I can't stand beans aside from Mild Chili but I meant besides that, and I have a very picky boy too.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


When you get hungry enough you'll eat those beans like they're going out of style. Those beans will be so good to you and your formerly picky boy that you wont be able to get enough of them!

A limited diet is poor survival strategy.
 Quoting: FWIW 33382770


If water is/will be available, dried legumes are a better choice.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


Jerky, Nuts, dried fruit, Dried vegetables for starters. Buy fresh meat, Fruit, and vegetables and learn to use your oven to dehydrate them. Keep the nuts in the fridge and rotate out the food supplies.
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A 38 revolver might come in handy! You can get one or similar pretty cheap!! A 22 revolver will suffice as well ... just hit the target in the right place though.. Ammo's fairly cheap too...
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A 38 revolver might come in handy! You can get one or similar pretty cheap!! A 22 revolver will suffice as well ... just hit the target in the right place though.. Ammo's fairly cheap too...
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Number one!!!! Have a plan. Why are you preparing? What are your biggest concerns? How long do you belive that you need to prepare for?If/when something happens how will you get to your family, get home, access your supplies. Next, do you plan on staying where you are, or will you have to leave (bug out)? What special needs do you have, medicines that are necessary, physical limitations? What can be overcome, and what must be adapted for?

Next, inventory what you already have, looking at it through different eyes. Kitchen knives are great cutting tools, but they need sheaths. You can make sheaths from plastic milk jugs and duct tape. Bundles can be made from pillowcases, paracord, and belts. (Think of the bundles carried by Civil War era soldiers) A wooden broom handle can be a walking staff, a spear, or a baton.

Once these things have been decided, make a list of what you think you need and start looking at thrift shops, Wally World, Dollar Stores, junk shops, Army Surplus Stores, and flea markets.

Do not get overcome by the idea that you have to have XYZ number/type/brand of items. What you need most is a mindset. You don't need 20 cases of MREs. You need X number of calories a day, for X number of days, for X number of days. Peanut butter and honey, for instance, are calorie rich, last a long time, are readily available and come in easily transportable packages. If you have access to an animal feed store bulk corn, rolled oats, flax, sunflower seed, and others are available in bulk. Otherwise, you can buy smaller quantities and make your own granola, "energy bars", or non-meat based pemmican style foods.

Well, I'm going on too long. Think different, plan and execute. That's my best suggestion.
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Number one!!!! Have a plan. Why are you preparing? What are your biggest concerns? How long do you belive that you need to prepare for?If/when something happens how will you get to your family, get home, access your supplies. Next, do you plan on staying where you are, or will you have to leave (bug out)? What special needs do you have, medicines that are necessary, physical limitations? What can be overcome, and what must be adapted for?

Next, inventory what you already have, looking at it through different eyes. Kitchen knives are great cutting tools, but they need sheaths. You can make sheaths from plastic milk jugs and duct tape. Bundles can be made from pillowcases, paracord, and belts. (Think of the bundles carried by Civil War era soldiers) A wooden broom handle can be a walking staff, a spear, or a baton.

Once these things have been decided, make a list of what you think you need and start looking at thrift shops, Wally World, Dollar Stores, junk shops, Army Surplus Stores, and flea markets.

Do not get overcome by the idea that you have to have XYZ number/type/brand of items. What you need most is a mindset. You don't need 20 cases of MREs. You need X number of calories a day, for X number of days, for X number of days. Peanut butter and honey, for instance, are calorie rich, last a long time, are readily available and come in easily transportable packages. If you have access to an animal feed store bulk corn, rolled oats, flax, sunflower seed, and others are available in bulk. Otherwise, you can buy smaller quantities and make your own granola, "energy bars", or non-meat based pemmican style foods.

Well, I'm going on too long. Think different, plan and execute. That's my best suggestion.
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Just get right with jesus all the prepping you need
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How do you know I'm not? Just because we haven't had end times doesn't mean something won't happen in my state. I live in an area where there is volcanoes, storms and floods.
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Why do people do this insulted thing. It's a suggestion not a judgment. Good grief.
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OP, is there a reason you are focusing (or seem to be based on what I've read) only on bugging out? Sure that is always a possibility to prepare for because none of us know what doom will really come our way. However, it may end up being more likely that the doom that comes will require that you bug in. The likelyhood depends on your current location & circumstances as well as the flavor of doom that comes.

Bugging in is absolutely preferable if it is at all doable.

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One of the main things you should get is a water purifier, even if its just a small pump one and/or purifier tablets.
I few good Knives like a Gerber, Kershaw or equivalent.
Good Hiking boots and some wool socks. A form of fire starting would always help. Raingear that is durable, and a rechargeable or crank charge flash light/radio.
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


+1000
Check out a Sawyer water filter on ebay. Around $50 filter guaranteed for over 1 million gallons.
A Water filter is a MUST HAVE. Then buy and store extra dried goods(Beans, rice, noodles) every payday
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Besides having a "BOB" what are some good ways of being prepared on a limited income while going to school. I know some people say to slowly get the means that is needed in case of an emergency situation such as a natural disaster but what if there isn't a huge amount of time left?
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Pasta and water, remember the more protein and salt you eat the more water you need. Stock up on your medications if it applies, and some over the counter ones too. Always fill you gas tank at half. Get a gun and learn to use it.You can get a cc used gun for about 250 in decent shape. Keep some cash on you, in case we have a power outage or the government seizes bank accounts. Get some camping supplies, blankets in your car, garbage bags for your waste. Make a plan with close friends and family. People you can trust. I mean all this is on the net. What I just mentions can be done for about 500 dollars minus the cash on hand. We will have time, if we don't none of the above matter because it will be to late.
 Quoting: Madcracka


The gas is always something my dad taught me to do. I have an account but I never really keep money it. 500 dollars I can probably do pretty soon or at least part of it. I am more concerned about my child's welfare than anything.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


In my opinion if you want to help your child, start teaching him how to shoot, Hunt, dress animals and fish. also with that book it has plants that are good to eat. Set up a group of friends and family because you wont be able to survive alone.
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My family isn't awake yet sad to say.
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Canned beans are cheap
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Eww I can't stand beans aside from Mild Chili but I meant besides that, and I have a very picky boy too.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


You are going to have a very rough time then if the dollar collapses.

Picky eaters ----------> dead
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


I am only picky about veggies, my son is just going through a weird eating stage and he loves PB.
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Just get right with jesus all the prepping you need
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How do you know I'm not? Just because we haven't had end times doesn't mean something won't happen in my state. I live in an area where there is volcanoes, storms and floods.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Why do people do this insulted thing. It's a suggestion not a judgment. Good grief.
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I wasn't insulted,it was just a simple question. Maybe if people would read my posts they would know my beliefs are with God :) No worries I wasn't upset.
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To the person that said protein requires you to drink more water, I have to have protein because of blood sugar issues. As to the bugging in, I would rather stay put then leave, at least I would know my surroundings well.
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Pasta and water, remember the more protein and salt you eat the more water you need. Stock up on your medications if it applies, and some over the counter ones too. Always fill you gas tank at half. Get a gun and learn to use it.You can get a cc used gun for about 250 in decent shape. Keep some cash on you, in case we have a power outage or the government seizes bank accounts. Get some camping supplies, blankets in your car, garbage bags for your waste. Make a plan with close friends and family. People you can trust. I mean all this is on the net. What I just mentions can be done for about 500 dollars minus the cash on hand. We will have time, if we don't none of the above matter because it will be to late.
 Quoting: Madcracka


The gas is always something my dad taught me to do. I have an account but I never really keep money it. 500 dollars I can probably do pretty soon or at least part of it. I am more concerned about my child's welfare than anything.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


In my opinion if you want to help your child, start teaching him how to shoot, Hunt, dress animals and fish. also with that book it has plants that are good to eat. Set up a group of friends and family because you wont be able to survive alone.
 Quoting: 4thhorseman

My family isn't awake yet sad to say.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Ok, so the family is late to the ride.. Think ahead, plan know where water/food is, when if it happens they will thank you for ever.. Just have the plan in you head or written down so when they see/awake you've got it covered.. you can be the hero!..
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To the person that said protein requires you to drink more water, I have to have protein because of blood sugar issues. As to the bugging in, I would rather stay put then leave, at least I would know my surroundings well.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Oh yes, I do have quite a bit of water already but as I said I have limited space so until I move out in a year I can't do everything I want to do.
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To the person that said protein requires you to drink more water, I have to have protein because of blood sugar issues. As to the bugging in, I would rather stay put then leave, at least I would know my surroundings well.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


You have a long way to go.
Once you stop the processed and fast food,
you're sugar levels will likely level out.

Let me guess, you go to the 'doctor' 4 times per year. LoL
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To the person that said protein requires you to drink more water, I have to have protein because of blood sugar issues. As to the bugging in, I would rather stay put then leave, at least I would know my surroundings well.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


You have a long way to go.
Once you stop the processed and fast food,
you're sugar levels will likely level out.

Let me guess, you go to the 'doctor' 4 times per year. LoL
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


No it's not diabetes it's low blood sugars. If I don't have enough protein it won't stay in normal range. I have my own machine in case it gets low. The only time I would ever go in is if they started getting high. I don't eat out fast food makes me feel sick. I try to eat pretty healthy now compared to years ago.
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To the person that said protein requires you to drink more water, I have to have protein because of blood sugar issues. As to the bugging in, I would rather stay put then leave, at least I would know my surroundings well.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


You have a long way to go.
Once you stop the processed and fast food,
you're sugar levels will likely level out.

Let me guess, you go to the 'doctor' 4 times per year. LoL
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


No it's not diabetes it's low blood sugars. If I don't have enough protein it won't stay in normal range. I have my own machine in case it gets low. The only time I would ever go in is if they started getting high. I don't eat out fast food makes me feel sick. I try to eat pretty healthy now compared to years ago.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Good luck OP.
Use the search function here like you would use google.

Lots and lots of alternative health threads.
Always verify though, as some asshats will tell you to drink gasoline.
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To the person that said protein requires you to drink more water, I have to have protein because of blood sugar issues. As to the bugging in, I would rather stay put then leave, at least I would know my surroundings well.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


You have a long way to go.
Once you stop the processed and fast food,
you're sugar levels will likely level out.

Let me guess, you go to the 'doctor' 4 times per year. LoL
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


No it's not diabetes it's low blood sugars. If I don't have enough protein it won't stay in normal range. I have my own machine in case it gets low. The only time I would ever go in is if they started getting high. I don't eat out fast food makes me feel sick. I try to eat pretty healthy now compared to years ago.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Good luck OP.
Use the search function here like you would use google.

Lots and lots of alternative health threads.
Always verify though, as some asshats will tell you to drink gasoline.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy

Thanks will do :)
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To the person that said protein requires you to drink more water, I have to have protein because of blood sugar issues. As to the bugging in, I would rather stay put then leave, at least I would know my surroundings well.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


You have a long way to go.
Once you stop the processed and fast food,
you're sugar levels will likely level out.

Let me guess, you go to the 'doctor' 4 times per year. LoL
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


No it's not diabetes it's low blood sugars. If I don't have enough protein it won't stay in normal range. I have my own machine in case it gets low. The only time I would ever go in is if they started getting high. I don't eat out fast food makes me feel sick. I try to eat pretty healthy now compared to years ago.
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is this it?

[link to www.diabetes.org]
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To the person that said protein requires you to drink more water, I have to have protein because of blood sugar issues. As to the bugging in, I would rather stay put then leave, at least I would know my surroundings well.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


You have a long way to go.
Once you stop the processed and fast food,
you're sugar levels will likely level out.

Let me guess, you go to the 'doctor' 4 times per year. LoL
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


No it's not diabetes it's low blood sugars. If I don't have enough protein it won't stay in normal range. I have my own machine in case it gets low. The only time I would ever go in is if they started getting high. I don't eat out fast food makes me feel sick. I try to eat pretty healthy now compared to years ago.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Good luck OP.
Use the search function here like you would use google.

Lots and lots of alternative health threads.
Always verify though, as some asshats will tell you to drink gasoline.
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Besides having a "BOB" what are some good ways of being prepared on a limited income while going to school. I know some people say to slowly get the means that is needed in case of an emergency situation such as a natural disaster but what if there isn't a huge amount of time left?
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Pasta and water, remember the more protein and salt you eat the more water you need. Stock up on your medications if it applies, and some over the counter ones too. Always fill you gas tank at half. Get a gun and learn to use it.You can get a cc used gun for about 250 in decent shape. Keep some cash on you, in case we have a power outage or the government seizes bank accounts. Get some camping supplies, blankets in your car, garbage bags for your waste. Make a plan with close friends and family. People you can trust. I mean all this is on the net. What I just mentions can be done for about 500 dollars minus the cash on hand. We will have time, if we don't none of the above matter because it will be to late.
 Quoting: Madcracka


The gas is always something my dad taught me to do. I have an account but I never really keep money it. 500 dollars I can probably do pretty soon or at least part of it. I am more concerned about my child's welfare than anything.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


In my opinion if you want to help your child, start teaching him how to shoot, Hunt, dress animals and fish. also with that book it has plants that are good to eat. Set up a group of friends and family because you wont be able to survive alone.
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


^^^^^^

This!

I have a 5 year old and 9 year old. It may sound silly, but even teaching them to know how to use a can opener is an achievement. Have your child be involved in learning things with you. Making a native fish trap is easy to show and do. Show them how to cook in a solar oven, make it a fun science experiment. Both of mine know what local plants are edible and which ones to recognize as poisonous. You would be amazed at how fast your child learns and how interested they become in learning things.

Also pack a favourite toy, games in your child's BOB. It will help sooth them when SHTF. Hot pockets are good at helping them keep warm too, since they can not make or retain body heat as well as adults can.

You can pick up a lot of stuff to start off a good first aid kit, at a dollar store. Buy lard, like Crisco. You can use it to bake, or as a candle. Find cheap things that you can find more than one use.

Having children does make it more stressful for us, but you can do this!
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To the person that said protein requires you to drink more water, I have to have protein because of blood sugar issues. As to the bugging in, I would rather stay put then leave, at least I would know my surroundings well.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


You have a long way to go.
Once you stop the processed and fast food,
you're sugar levels will likely level out.

Let me guess, you go to the 'doctor' 4 times per year. LoL
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


No it's not diabetes it's low blood sugars. If I don't have enough protein it won't stay in normal range. I have my own machine in case it gets low. The only time I would ever go in is if they started getting high. I don't eat out fast food makes me feel sick. I try to eat pretty healthy now compared to years ago.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


is this it?

[link to www.diabetes.org]
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


With Diabetes the pancreas doesn't put out enough glucose, where as the hypoglycemic's pancreas puts out to much and it can make the body's glucose levels be like a roller coaster. It really stinks when it's low then you eat protein to get it back up and then it tries to level out. It wears down the body and does crazy things.
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Pasta and water, remember the more protein and salt you eat the more water you need. Stock up on your medications if it applies, and some over the counter ones too. Always fill you gas tank at half. Get a gun and learn to use it.You can get a cc used gun for about 250 in decent shape. Keep some cash on you, in case we have a power outage or the government seizes bank accounts. Get some camping supplies, blankets in your car, garbage bags for your waste. Make a plan with close friends and family. People you can trust. I mean all this is on the net. What I just mentions can be done for about 500 dollars minus the cash on hand. We will have time, if we don't none of the above matter because it will be to late.
 Quoting: Madcracka


The gas is always something my dad taught me to do. I have an account but I never really keep money it. 500 dollars I can probably do pretty soon or at least part of it. I am more concerned about my child's welfare than anything.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


In my opinion if you want to help your child, start teaching him how to shoot, Hunt, dress animals and fish. also with that book it has plants that are good to eat. Set up a group of friends and family because you wont be able to survive alone.
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


^^^^^^

This!

I have a 5 year old and 9 year old. It may sound silly, but even teaching them to know how to use a can opener is an achievement. Have your child be involved in learning things with you. Making a native fish trap is easy to show and do. Show them how to cook in a solar oven, make it a fun science experiment. Both of mine know what local plants are edible and which ones to recognize as poisonous. You would be amazed at how fast your child learns and how interested they become in learning things.

Also pack a favourite toy, games in your child's BOB. It will help sooth them when SHTF. Hot pockets are good at helping them keep warm too, since they can not make or retain body heat as well as adults can.

You can pick up a lot of stuff to start off a good first aid kit, at a dollar store. Buy lard, like Crisco. You can use it to bake, or as a candle. Find cheap things that you can find more than one use.

Having children does make it more stressful for us, but you can do this!
 Quoting: CrazyMama73

Thanks for the tips!hf
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Sounds like your long journey hasn't even taken its first step.
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Say what?
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Um, well, in an emergency situation, I don't think you'll care that you or your boy don't like dem beans.
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Maybe not me but try telling that to a 5 yr old. SmileyWink
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Use your resources to take care of your boy.

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