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BREAKING..Nazi State... Florida county Banning Smokers from Being Hired !!!!!!

 
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what is it about smoke that them aliens dont like anyway? They happy to murder all humans and destroy the planet but a bit of cigarette smoke drives them mad.

Perhaps there is an answer there?
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Aha! That's it! It's always something simple... Like in Mars Attacks, it was old ass music that made their heads explode.
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Re: BREAKING..Nazi State... Florida county Banning Smokers from Being Hired !!!!!!
what is it about smoke that them aliens dont like anyway? They happy to murder all humans and destroy the planet but a bit of cigarette smoke drives them mad.

Perhaps there is an answer there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46480287




Ha, ha,
never heard that one,
you might be on to something
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46476435


I knew all along.

but is rather more simple, and boils down to 'divide and conquer'
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Re: BREAKING..Nazi State... Florida county Banning Smokers from Being Hired !!!!!!
Here in Florida, we get all of the retired or aging population and most of them are end stage smokers. They all are wearing oxygen mask, fill up the emergency room with smoking related distresses....etc...etc...


Smoking should be illegal as it stinks, and causes 2nd and 3rd hand respiratory diseases to non-smokers. Also, non-smokers always have to foot the hospital bills because SMOKERs never ever have insurance, they spend all of their money on smokes
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You make a point, for some socialist nation - this is goddamn america.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29235651


It's ok as long as they test the fat asses too for chocolate, French fries and bacon.

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and alcohol........don't forget addictive alcohol testing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46357486



pfff that doesn't go far enough!

if you do anything other then working sleeping fucking and eating (what the state sees fit for consumption), you will be euthanized.

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maybe this will put the prohibition of marijuana into perspective for all the tobacco enthusiasts that don't toke up.

I mean, fair is fair, a plant is a plant. lol..

all those nicotine heads will see how stupid marijuana prohibition is, and how drug testing for marijuana is just as stupid.
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Here come all the nicotine flushing products.....

Sheesh. The govt just can't mind it's own business can it??
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What about ecigs? I switched - still get my nicotine but I'm not actually smoking cigs.

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maybe this will put the prohibition of marijuana into perspective for all the tobacco enthusiasts that don't toke up.

I mean, fair is fair, a plant is a plant. lol..

all those nicotine heads will see how stupid marijuana prohibition is, and how drug testing for marijuana is just as stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39920105


I used to be one of those people, I'll be honest. I was smoking 2 packs a day but frowned upon pot, despite the fact I smoked it like crazy when I was younger.

Now I use an ecig and in the last few weeks have started smoking pot once in awhile at night if I'm having trouble sleeping. haha ;)
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Just Wow. What about folks that dip, or use a e-cigarette, or people on the patch or nico gum? Sorry ...JOB NAZI says NO JOB FOR YOU!!
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I smoke about a cigarette per month just to keep them safe and legal.

Prohibition of tobacco would be devestating, like alcohol and pot. How many SLAVES do we think is OK to have in prison?

Oh right SATANISTS!
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OMG, even drug testing for Nicotine

Not a smoker,but wow, isn't this America?...
where you're supposed to have some limited freedom of choice?



From ABC News...
Smokers need not apply in one Florida county, which will soon require prospective job applicants to pass a nicotine test before starting work.

The Board of County Commissioners in Flagler County, in northeast Florida, voted last month to require potential county employees to undergo testing for nicotine use and to pledge in a signed affidavit that they will remain tobacco-free throughout their employment.

But the requirements have raised flags for a civil liberties group that said it is unconstitutional for the government to administer blanket tests for nicotine or drugs on any group of people.



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 Quoting: utoo 46476435


This is common practice and has been done for over 15 years.

Employers don'twant to deal withy sstinky people, more likely to have drug and alcohol problems, that regardless of that, are a guarantee to have a higher cost to them for health insurance.

Get out much?
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Re: BREAKING..Nazi State... Florida county Banning Smokers from Being Hired !!!!!!
Here in Florida, we get all of the retired or aging population and most of them are end stage smokers. They all are wearing oxygen mask, fill up the emergency room with smoking related distresses....etc...etc...


Smoking should be illegal as it stinks, and causes 2nd and 3rd hand respiratory diseases to non-smokers. Also, non-smokers always have to foot the hospital bills because SMOKERs never ever have insurance, they spend all of their money on smokes
 Quoting: Juggalo


Europe and Russia have more than triple the amount of smokers, and have less than double the rate of "smoking related" diseases.

You need to ask yourself why.
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The taxpayers of that county are the ones who have to pick up the tabs for all the sick time, healthcare costs and unproductive smoke breaks for their civil "servants". You mean to tell me that they should have no say in cutting those costs? What kind of republic is that?
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This is because of Obamacare, the rates on smokers and overweight people are going to be absolutely prohibitive to employers. This won't be the last time you hear about this...
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Thread: More Obamacare woes.... Flagler county Fl to require tobacco test for employment!

I posted two days ago on this. Its all over Obamacare. The healthcare costs are going up for smokers so the county is trying to save money by discriminating against smokers.

And theres nothing smokers can do cause its been ruled smokers dont have legal protection.
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Thread: More Obamacare woes.... Flagler county Fl to require tobacco test for employment!

I posted two days ago on this. Its all over Obamacare. The healthcare costs are going up for smokers so the county is trying to save money by discriminating against smokers.

And theres nothing smokers can do cause its been ruled smokers dont have legal protection.
 Quoting: Surfbum25


Well, health insurance is always compared to car insurance. Why shouldn't a smoker pay a higher rate or some other type of penalty just like a bad driver or DWI driver pays higher auto insurance rates?
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Re: BREAKING..Nazi State... Florida county Banning Smokers from Being Hired !!!!!!
what is it about smoke that them aliens dont like anyway? They happy to murder all humans and destroy the planet but a bit of cigarette smoke drives them mad.

Perhaps there is an answer there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46480287


power. now they have an exuse to get rid of anyone they don't want.for any reason under the sun.does no one care anymore if people are actually good at their jobs,whatever home hobbies they have.
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Re: BREAKING..Nazi State... Florida county Banning Smokers from Being Hired !!!!!!
what is it about smoke that them aliens dont like anyway? They happy to murder all humans and destroy the planet but a bit of cigarette smoke drives them mad.

Perhaps there is an answer there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46480287




Ha, ha,
never heard that one,
you might be on to something
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46476435

Oh I've heard that, that the aliens don't like tobacco smoke.

God I hate all this anti smoking stuff. It made it hard to quit, because I wanted to keep smoking just to spite them. Cigs are good, smoke 'em if you can. I can't but that doesn't mean I'm against them.
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Thread: More Obamacare woes.... Flagler county Fl to require tobacco test for employment!

I posted two days ago on this. Its all over Obamacare. The healthcare costs are going up for smokers so the county is trying to save money by discriminating against smokers.

And theres nothing smokers can do cause its been ruled smokers dont have legal protection.
 Quoting: Surfbum25


Well, health insurance is always compared to car insurance. Why shouldn't a smoker pay a higher rate or some other type of penalty just like a bad driver or DWI driver pays higher auto insurance rates?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31340483


Thats not the issue, smokers have always paid slightly larger premiums than nons. Its the fact of oblablacrap raising the rates so ridiculously high that the county cant handle it so theyre forced to do something like this and 'ban' smokers from employment.

Its sad really, just another example of the Affordable Care Act effin shit up.
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what is it about smoke that them aliens dont like anyway? They happy to murder all humans and destroy the planet but a bit of cigarette smoke drives them mad.

Perhaps there is an answer there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46480287


I wonder about that myself. It's not "They" want us to be happy or healthy, look at all the crap in our food.
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What about ecigs? I switched - still get my nicotine but I'm not actually smoking cigs.
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Sorry. Nicotine is nicotine.
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Not an illegal substance, any decent lawyer could rip this legislation to shreds in court.

That said, why is it legal?

It kills thousands of people a day but that's okay, we'll just out-law weed instead, even though it's never killed anyone, yup, follow the money people.

I quit smoking last year, 30 years of a pack a day, cold turkey, yay me!

They say reformed smokers are the most venomous anti-smoking protagonists, could be true as we know first hand just how disgusting a habit it is, how it wrecks your health and your wallet, how much better life is post cigarettes.

I still smoke weed and drink way too much beer, but that is my business and prerogative to do so, just like smokers in Florida, Nazism even for goodness sake is still Nazism, change the laws or get sued for discrimination.
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Not an illegal substance, any decent lawyer could rip this legislation to shreds in court.

That said, why is it legal?

It kills thousands of people a day but that's okay, we'll just out-law weed instead, even though it's never killed anyone, yup, follow the money people.

I quit smoking last year, 30 years of a pack a day, cold turkey, yay me!

They say reformed smokers are the most venomous anti-smoking protagonists, could be true as we know first hand just how disgusting a habit it is, how it wrecks your health and your wallet, how much better life is post cigarettes.

I still smoke weed and drink way too much beer, but that is my business and prerogative to do so, just like smokers in Florida, Nazism even for goodness sake is still Nazism, change the laws or get sued for discrimination.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44512659


I quit smoking over a year ago, and I still want to light up every single day. I guess I was hardcore hooked.
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what is it about smoke that them aliens dont like anyway? They happy to murder all humans and destroy the planet but a bit of cigarette smoke drives them mad.

Perhaps there is an answer there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46480287


That's why I don't intend to quit.
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Here in Florida, we get all of the retired or aging population and most of them are end stage smokers. They all are wearing oxygen mask, fill up the emergency room with smoking related distresses....etc...etc...


Smoking should be illegal as it stinks, and causes 2nd and 3rd hand respiratory diseases to non-smokers. Also, non-smokers always have to foot the hospital bills because SMOKERs never ever have insurance, they spend all of their money on smokes
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You are a juggalo, your opinion is invalid
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Here in Florida, we get all of the retired or aging population and most of them are end stage smokers. They all are wearing oxygen mask, fill up the emergency room with smoking related distresses....etc...etc...


Smoking should be illegal as it stinks, and causes 2nd and 3rd hand respiratory diseases to non-smokers. Also, non-smokers always have to foot the hospital bills because SMOKERs never ever have insurance, they spend all of their money on smokes
 Quoting: Juggalo


hitler had a similar view...

plus he thought of retards, they only cost money. are they in your list of undesirables too?
 Quoting: Wayne interessierts


Smokers have hitler's view also if they force their smoke on people who don't want it. I have rights my business does not have smokers, and I have that right to not allow them in my business smoking and I have the right to not hire them.
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Re: BREAKING..Nazi State... Florida county Banning Smokers from Being Hired !!!!!!
OMG, even drug testing for Nicotine

Not a smoker,but wow, isn't this America?...
where you're supposed to have some limited freedom of choice?



From ABC News...
Smokers need not apply in one Florida county, which will soon require prospective job applicants to pass a nicotine test before starting work.

The Board of County Commissioners in Flagler County, in northeast Florida, voted last month to require potential county employees to undergo testing for nicotine use and to pledge in a signed affidavit that they will remain tobacco-free throughout their employment.

But the requirements have raised flags for a civil liberties group that said it is unconstitutional for the government to administer blanket tests for nicotine or drugs on any group of people.



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 Quoting: utoo 46476435

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Good for them, they should include tattoos as a threat to insurance rates.
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Here in Florida, we get all of the retired or aging population and most of them are end stage smokers. They all are wearing oxygen mask, fill up the emergency room with smoking related distresses....etc...etc...


Smoking should be illegal as it stinks, and causes 2nd and 3rd hand respiratory diseases to non-smokers. Also, non-smokers always have to foot the hospital bills because SMOKERs never ever have insurance, they spend all of their money on smokes
 Quoting: Juggalo


Europe and Russia have more than triple the amount of smokers, and have less than double the rate of "smoking related" diseases.

You need to ask yourself why.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3937774


From a cancer society commercial that used to air on the radio:

"Every year 120,000 Americans die of lung cancer. Over 60% of them never smoked..."
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Here in Florida, we get all of the retired or aging population and most of them are end stage smokers. They all are wearing oxygen mask, fill up the emergency room with smoking related distresses....etc...etc...


Smoking should be illegal as it stinks, and causes 2nd and 3rd hand respiratory diseases to non-smokers. Also, non-smokers always have to foot the hospital bills because SMOKERs never ever have insurance, they spend all of their money on smokes
 Quoting: Juggalo


hitler had a similar view...

plus he thought of retards, they only cost money. are they in your list of undesirables too?
 Quoting: Wayne interessierts


Smokers have hitler's view also if they force their smoke on people who don't want it. I have rights my business does not have smokers, and I have that right to not allow them in my business smoking and I have the right to not hire them.
 Quoting: nzreva


Youre right, you do. Yet you cannot explicitly say 'i dont hire smokers'. Certain laws prohibit the direct discrimination in the hiring process.
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Re: BREAKING..Nazi State... Florida county Banning Smokers from Being Hired !!!!!!
Good. When I interview someone I am so turned off if they smell like smelly fucking cigarette smoke. They can take their stale smelling ass somewhere else, I can always find a legitimate reason not to hire someone who stinks of it. I'm not going to hire someone just so they can go outside once an hour to suck down a cigarette on MY dime. Non-smokers are more productive, friendlier, and just generally better employees because they don't throw little bitch tantrums that they blame on not getting their precious cigarette when needed.





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