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BERLIN (AP) - The U.S. National Security Agency is able to crack protective measures on iPhones, BlackBerry and Android devices, giving it access to users' data on all major smartphones, according to a report Sunday in German news weekly Der Spiegel.

The magazine cited internal documents from the NSA and its British counterpart GCHQ in which the agencies describe setting up dedicated teams for each type of phone as part of their effort to gather intelligence on potential threats such as terrorists.

The data obtained this way includes contacts, call lists, SMS traffic, notes and location information, Der Spiegel reported. The documents don't indicate that the NSA is conducting mass surveillance of phone users but rather that these techniques are used to eavesdrop on specific individuals, the magazine said.

The article doesn't explain how the magazine obtained the documents, which are described as "secret." But 1 of its authors is Laura Poitras, an American filmmaker with close contacts to NSA leaker Edward Snowden who has published several articles about the NSA in Der Spiegel in recent weeks.

The documents outline how, starting in May 2009, intelligence agents were unable to access some information on BlackBerry phones for about a year after the Canadian manufacturer began using a new method to compress the data. After GCHQ cracked that problem, too, analysts celebrated their achievement with the word "Champagne," Der Spiegel reported.obigbro

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Damn, cant wait for that new iphone!
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Damn, cant wait for that new iphone!
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I Have always said, If it is connected to a NW...They can watch you!! Think about a simple program and they can watch both your cameras, listen to your conversations....etc...

Scary shit if you really think about it.

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Damn, cant wait for that new iphone!
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I Have always said, If it is connected to a NW...They can watch you!! Think about a simple program and they can watch both your cameras, listen to your conversations....etc...

Scary shit if you really think about it.

agent
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Physical methods are most effective. Tape your cameras, unplug your microphones. Delete all data. Turn off. Keep in a faraday cage. Above all, just don't have what you don't need. If you have it, use it for all kinds of spurious things.
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thats why i have an old mobile, never a smartphone :-)

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good,

I just took a picture of my ass.

Because they can kiss it..

fuck you NSA !!!!
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time to shop for an el cheapo alternative

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I had a dream last night about the NSA crap. I went to buy a new cell phone and had to sign a governmental wavier of rights to allow the NSA to continue spying in order to even have a cell phone... No idea where that one came from.
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thats why i have an old mobile, never a smartphone :-)

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They can still listen to your phone calls, and know who you've been calling and texting. They can read your text messages.

And if your GPS module is on, they can track your specific location. If it's not on, your general location can be triangulated, accuracy depending on cell density.
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Is this a stealth commercial for the Windows phone?
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You can't take the battery out of an iPhone.... for a reason.

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You can't take the battery out of an iPhone.... for a reason.

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more and more phones are becoming the same way
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Lol, no more sheep porn for you bad teeth EU assholes.
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Is this a stealth commercial for the Windows phone?
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Windows? The surveillance is done with the OS in Windows, a closed system.
Apple's IOS is the same, jailbreaking can get you into the OS to shut things down.
Android is an open OS, you can see what's going on. Getting root control can shut down over 50% of installed applications, useless&surveillance apps, Google, Carrier, hackers.

But then there's the weakness of the actual comms. There are real time Android txt and voice encryption apps, again open source(no back doors), that would give feds a 10yr headache to crack. But nothing like this cross-platform(except$).

:securitycomp:

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good,

I just took a picture of my ass.

Because they can kiss it..

fuck you NSA !!!!
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good,

I just took a picture of my ass.

Because they can kiss it..

fuck you NSA !!!!
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


clappabartmoon
 Quoting: Relativity


WOW, Thanks for the Pin!!!

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"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare
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good,

I just took a picture of my ass.

Because they can kiss it..

fuck you NSA !!!!
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Ofc they do...most of the tech we now have has been developed for military use before going commercial, they SHOULD have a way to crack their own equipment.

It might but sad but it's also inevitable that in a technoligical society that is getting connected more and more each day we wont have any privacy and/or security.

It is said the meek shall inherit the earth..

..we can also read it this way

The Geek will inherit the world.

The times when balls the size of watermellons and physical courage got you everything are mostly gone..nowdays new heroes AND villans have keyboards and they can pretty much delete you and your life if they want.

Funny thing is that these days the more technoligically backward a country is it has more private freedoms...
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They already had and I can see that on many Tablet and Smart phone. TPTB had already declared war against the Public. It funny, usually it the enemy supposed to do this.

TPBT ARE YOUR FUCKING PUBLIC NUMBER ONE ENEMY.

BECAUSE WE KNOWS TOO MUCH WITHIN!.

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When North shall thus divide the south
And Eagle build in Lion's mouth
Then tax and blood and cruel war
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When man shall do most heinous deed
Man will ruin kinder lives
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And murder foul and brutal deed
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Damn, cant wait for that new iphone!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46480287


I Have always said, If it is connected to a NW...They can watch you!! Think about a simple program and they can watch both your cameras, listen to your conversations....etc...

Scary shit if you really think about it.

agent
 Quoting: Relativity


Hugely entertaining here...

I go to work.
I walk my dog.
I talk to wife.
I go to sleep.

I go to work.
I walk my dog.
I talk to wife.
I go to sleep.


yawn
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Even the search engine had been smudges out on some important information.

Here another strife:

"Ye are to have turmoil -- ye are to have strife between capital and labor. Ye are to have a division in your own land, before you have the second of the Presidents that next will not live through his office ... a mob rule!" - Edgar Cayce

"The law will become more bitter than servitude" - Nostradamus.

There is more..
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Ofc they do...most of the tech we now have has been developed for military use before going commercial, they SHOULD have a way to crack their own equipment.

It might but sad but it's also inevitable that in a technoligical society that is getting connected more and more each day we wont have any privacy and/or security.

It is said the meek shall inherit the earth..

..we can also read it this way

The Geek will inherit the world.

The times when balls the size of watermellons and physical courage got you everything are mostly gone..nowdays new heroes AND villans have keyboards and they can pretty much delete you and your life if they want.

Funny thing is that these days the more technoligically backward a country is it has more private freedoms...
 Quoting: M.UFO

And then there's the trickle down effect where many police now use Cellebrite readers to download all txt, contacts and cell data at a 'traffic stop'!
Their website mentions the difficulties with Android phones. Where users can shut off that download function and encrypt comm data. :)

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And then there's the trickle down effect where many police now use Cellebrite readers to download all txt, contacts and cell data at a 'traffic stop'!
Their website mentions the difficulties with Android phones. Where users can shut off that download function and encrypt comm data. :)
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However we will be the last one to laugh when rampart AI takes us all out.. abomb
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Damn, cant wait for that new iphone!
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I Have always said, If it is connected to a NW...They can watch you!! Think about a simple program and they can watch both your cameras, listen to your conversations....etc...

Scary shit if you really think about it.

agent
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Hugely entertaining here...

I go to work.
I walk my dog.
I talk to wife.
I go to sleep.

I go to work.
I walk my dog.
I talk to wife.
I go to sleep.


yawn
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Rinse and repeat!!! The way of the Sheeple.

Don't forget

I have to buy the new smartphone!!

sheep
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Deed?:

""The great man will be struck down in the day by a thunderbolt (JFK)
An evil deed, foretold by the bearer of a petition (Jeanne Dixon)
According to the prediction, another falls at night time." (Five years later JFK Brother Robert fallen at night time before winning the POTUS)

TPTB are truly evil.
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this is why smart people dont have a smartphone...
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Rolf this is old news for a GLP luni.

It's one big spiderweb.
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Report: NSA can access most smartphone data
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This should be a surprise to no one at this point.
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this is why smart people dont have a smartphone...
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Those old pocket Rolodex's are looking better and better.
All the old "dumb" stuff.

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"The magazine cited internal documents from the NSA and its British counterpart GCHQ in which the agencies describe setting up dedicated teams for each type of phone as part of their effort to gather intelligence on potential threats such as conservatives."

Fixed.
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Ofc they do...most of the tech we now have has been developed for military use before going commercial, they SHOULD have a way to crack their own equipment.

It might but sad but it's also inevitable that in a technoligical society that is getting connected more and more each day we wont have any privacy and/or security.

It is said the meek shall inherit the earth..

..we can also read it this way

The Geek will inherit the world.

The times when balls the size of watermellons and physical courage got you everything are mostly gone..nowdays new heroes AND villans have keyboards and they can pretty much delete you and your life if they want.

Funny thing is that these days the more technoligically backward a country is it has more private freedoms...
 Quoting: M.UFO


You give the military too much credit. The military has always been decades behind in a lot of technology, what makes you think a lot of this stuff existed in the military before it went public? Just look at military equipment right now, it's old junk. If you read a lot of the declassified documents, much of the reason why documents are classified is to hide the fact how far behind the military actually is and how much it actually costs. The military has always been heavily bureaucratic and heavily corrupted, two things that seriously stifle any innovation.





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