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MUST SEE!!! New Footage of Building 7 Collapse!!!!!!!!

 
7even

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09/10/2013 07:50 AM

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Some things to consider that I came across whilst trawling the net some time after the event.

The elevators in both 1&2 were being renovated/upgraded in the 9 months previous to 9/11. There was a video of an interview with an office worker that spoke of coming into work on a morning to find concrete dust all over the office. The video seems to have quietly disappeared or has been buried under the mountain of vids out there.

Another thing is the idea of the elastic and plastic stages of steel at temperature, this was much a part of the first rushed explanation of the collapse of the towers with the ridiculous 'pancake theory', now sadly entrenched in most peoples imagination as to what happened.

Plastic deformation in steel, in this case due to heat, would irreversibly deform the material ie: it would melt and lose all structural integrity both the material itself and any structure it was part of. This gives the scenario, unlikely though it is given the fuel source but allowed for to begin to look at likely causes, whereby parts of the floors hit sustained elastic damage from the impact that later became plastic damage due to fire. Impossible with the known facts but at least the beginnings of a hypothesis into the collapse.

When the top parts fell we enter the area of elastic deformation which in this case would be caused by the stresses of wheight falling upon it. Elastic deformations do not have to be catastrophic, obviously they can be but the material retains enough of it's integrity to return to function.

The Towers were built in three sections with the dimensions of the girders gradually reducing between each section up to the top to save weight and give stability, one does not want a top heavy ship, it'll roll over.

So even if we allow for the ridiculous assumption that office fires caused structural members on the impacted floors to reach the plastic stage this should have had minimal effect on the structural integrity of the lower supporting floors, in fact if we understand Newton then the effect should only reach down an equal number of floors to the floors collapsing. However the fact that the girders increase in dimensions and strength the lower one went means that not only in the number of floors are unequal but so are the properties of the opposing force.

In short it should have 'bounced back'.

One popular misconception is that the fires impacted the integrity of the steel on all floors. How in hell's name could that happen, it would be like holding a candle under the Golden Gate Bridge and expecting it's structural integrity to be compromised within an hour and total collapse to take place.

For all you keyboard warriors out there stop playing you war games for two minutes and check out the heat sink on your graphics card or CPU and give us a shout when that light bulb switches on.

It's one of the nails in the coffin for the NIST report as to avoid these uncomfortable truths by claiming "global collapse was inevitable", I won't name the scientist as it was probably a staffer rather than him personally, whoever it was they were dismissing a genuine concern by someone confused about events and the web page simply stated this official line of global collapse. I stated that if any scientist goes with this antithesis of scientific principal then all of their work needs re-examining and perhaps even simply dismissed out of hand.

Building 7, well it's hard to put forward a counter argument to the official report when it basically consists of government scientist running round like headless chickens crying 'chickadee, chickadee...the sky fell in', a point you may want to look at is the fact it was built over an electrical sub-station and the structural steel around that was some absolutely huge girders dwarfing anything from all three buildings, yet they collapsed and 'vapourised' in exactly the same manner as the smaller girders with only the same forces, give or take, applied which brings us back round in a full circle to Newtoniam mechanics.

However we may argue about the mechanics and politics of how they carried it out the facts are that the mechanics of such collapses are impossible. Another nail in the coffin is that there is no continuing official investigation by any standards agency which would be a prime concern given the number of steel structured buildings that continue to be built.
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09/10/2013 09:13 AM
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Every time I see Bldg. 7 go down it makes me sick. Which demolition company managed the demolition/installed the explosives, and how long did it take to complete the project and make the bldg. ready for detonation?
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I agree.

How do the people that installed the explosives live with themselves?
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The explosives were already installed. They had been planted there weeks or months before. They were intended for the legitimate purpose of a controlled demolition at some time in the future because WTC1 & WTC2 were not having their leases renewed because of asbestos contamination. The people who planted the explosives were never told the real plans for the towers. They were innocent.
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Some other guy in an earlier post said it was Israeli special forces posing as art students. Which is it? If it was a controlled demolition, there should be evidence to support a generally accepted answer.
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09/10/2013 09:43 AM
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Fucking muslims all over this thread
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What a scared little child you are. No balls to face the truth. It must have been crazy muzzies, right? Well, the TV said so, so it must be true. Right?

Pathetic prick.
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"and im freeeeeeeeeeeeeee.... freeeeeeee falllllllin" - WTC 1, 2 and 7
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we are not alone
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09/10/2013 09:58 AM
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By now it falls into the known knowns category.


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I think I'll make that my ringtone
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09/10/2013 10:01 AM
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Anyone with a brain knows the buildings were demo'd.
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09/10/2013 10:03 AM
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A little off of the thread title theme, but does anyone have a rough idea of how many non-Israeli Jews died in the 9/11 False Flag attack?

I know Israel-connected 'inner circle' types were warned in advance (that's well known), but I'm curious about the number of partial Jews, or their non-Jewish spouses etc, that had to be sacrificed that day so that the World could be Repaired n'Shit.
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09/10/2013 10:10 AM
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Re: MUST SEE!!! New Footage of Building 7 Collapse!!!!!!!!
A little off of the thread title theme, but does anyone have a rough idea of how many non-Israeli Jews died in the 9/11 False Flag attack?

I know Israel-connected 'inner circle' types were warned in advance (that's well known), but I'm curious about the number of partial Jews, or their non-Jewish spouses etc, that had to be sacrificed that day so that the World could be Repaired n'Shit.
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That'd be like trying to get a count on the number of people with a partially Irish ethnic background and the spouses of same who died. I wouldn't even know where to begin to know who was in that class, and the percentage of people present or who could(/would/should) have been present who would fit that class would be really high
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09/10/2013 10:20 AM
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Re: MUST SEE!!! New Footage of Building 7 Collapse!!!!!!!!
A little off of the thread title theme, but does anyone have a rough idea of how many non-Israeli Jews died in the 9/11 False Flag attack?

I know Israel-connected 'inner circle' types were warned in advance (that's well known), but I'm curious about the number of partial Jews, or their non-Jewish spouses etc, that had to be sacrificed that day so that the World could be Repaired n'Shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 506453


That'd be like trying to get a count on the number of people with a partially Irish ethnic background and the spouses of same who died. I wouldn't even know where to begin to know who was in that class, and the percentage of people present or who could(/would/should) have been present who would fit that class would be really high
 Quoting: reader9


Thanks, I kinda knew before asking that any real and accurate answer would be difficult to find...

but you never know - some very enterprising and creative researchers do post on GLP - from time to time.
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09/10/2013 11:12 AM
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Re: MUST SEE!!! New Footage of Building 7 Collapse!!!!!!!!
Just imagine a building collapsing in on itself at the strongest point of it's structure (where elevators and stair cases are located DEAD CENTER) and it's base is turned into liquid metal and concrete at around 1700 degrees. No bombs, thermite, swamp gas, lens flare, etc. is going to create this people. Okay McFly repeat after me and rap those knuckles on that head several times saying "DIRECT ENERGY WEAPON". Ya Got it, get it, goooooood.
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09/10/2013 01:23 PM
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bump
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09/10/2013 01:31 PM
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09/10/2013 01:33 PM
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Re: MUST SEE!!! New Footage of Building 7 Collapse!!!!!!!!
Same video but slightly better resolution:


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Damn, was that a person being blown out of the window at the end?!
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09/10/2013 02:02 PM
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Looks like typical demolitions look very similar to the demolition of the WTC, except for the distinctive sequential explosions over and over again, which you could see and hear, and except for the bright fire from most of the explosions, and except that all of them started at the bottom with clear, more powerful explosions on the first 3 floors, and except that none of the buildings were over 20 or so stories high, and considering the world record tallest demolition, except for the 110 story WTC, is the 26 story J. Hudson building demo in Detroit.
Guess Who2

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09/10/2013 02:30 PM

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fake
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It most certainly is not fake!! It is however not new. I saw this footage years ago! It is the best footage. You can see the windows blowing out up one side then the other. Sad a majority of folks STILL know nothing about Bldg 7.
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09/10/2013 03:24 PM
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Lots of people aren't even aware of Building 7.
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bump for WTC-7 truth
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09/10/2013 03:35 PM
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Re: MUST SEE!!! New Footage of Building 7 Collapse!!!!!!!!
Isnt it publicly provable that Larry Silverstein is guilty of insurance fraud?

bump dat
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Isnt it publicly provable that Larry Silverstein is guilty of insurance fraud?

bump dat
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Lets get his ass into court
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09/11/2013 12:50 PM

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Idol1
Here is a list of 8 things to look for when trying to identify false flag psychological operations.
1. Staged events usually receive immediate national news coverage
2. There is a political agenda behind the coverage (gun control)
3. The incident inspires intense emotions (Dead kids)
4. Initial media reports conflict eyewitness accounts
5. No dead bodies are shown to the public
6. Celebrities are used to influence the public
7. Presence of mainstream media manipulation tactics
8. The Federal Government give attention to a local story

Question Everything.
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09/12/2013 04:53 AM
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No doubt it was a controlled demolition.
What are you waiting for to imprison the guilty? These jackals are unscrupulous. And they will do it again.
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The 'guilty' is one of the known-unknowns.
Unless you know, in which case, let us know.

Personally I wouldn't put it past the Bush family. They seem like psychopaths to me. But who were they working for?
Probably Rockefeller/Rothschild.

Who cares?

They kill at will, and always will.
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jajaj..what a loser mentality! Obviously with that mentality Americans never will resolve nothing!
Will continue to take lives only if allowed.
Use the vision of the patriots who founded the nation, fight for what they want, put guts, intelligence, perseverance ... will gain victory!

One question ... did you work for them?
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09/12/2013 04:20 PM

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Re: MUST SEE!!! New Footage of Building 7 Collapse!!!!!!!!
It was reported that building 7 had collapsed when it it actually still stood and can be seen behind the presenter.


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