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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46632900  United Kingdom09/10/2013 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first thing you do is show them the permit with hands in plain view.I never had a problem. Quoting: ar-15 nut aw does badass ar-15 boy carry a permit when its already backed by the 2nd amendment. Just like my brother, all talk, but bows to the government for a permit that's guaranteed by the constitution. Either be a true patriot, or give in completely to tyranny. Just carry a copy of the constitution and tell the cop to fuck himself. :trololol: Actually, that won't work. You don't have a constitutional right to carry a gun. Oh, lets hear it twotards! Beat me down! Now, read the rest of my post: In the recent SCOTUS case, they ruled that you do not have a constitutional right that we take for granted: The right to remain silent (Protected by the 5th Amendment). What???!!! No, you don't because you have to FORMALLY CLAIM IT. Now, since we are a constitutional republic, why don't we have the right automatically? Here is why: In 1871 they passed the "Act of 1871". In it they incorporated the government and made it a corporation. What that means is now it obeys commercial law, aka Uniform Commercial Code (UCC), aka Admiralty Law. Since then the DEFACTO law is UCC, not Constitution. In order for the UCC to be used, it cannot be converse or superior to constitutional law. But, since it is the defacto law, you don't have your constitutional rights until you CLAIM THEM. The court brief said it. The case was "Salinas vs Texas". Go read it for yourself: [link to www.scotusblog.com] This is how they enforce unconstitutional laws on us. They use the UCC, but, the UCC is subordinate to the law of the land, the constitution. Proper way to handle this would have been as soon as you get out of the vehicle, declare your right to keep and bear arms as protected by the second amendment. ...and while you're at it, declare your right to remain silent as protected by the 5th amendment. It doesn't have to be real formal. So, there you have it. DECLARE your rights. If you don't, the supreme court says you don't have them. This would be true for rights under a state constitution as well. Just out of interest (as it doesn't apply to a serf like me) what is the recognised and lawful procedure for CLAIMING YOUR RIGHTS? Do you have to have a sign-board that you carry everywhere you go, or a tape player on a loop declaring "I expressly claim all my Consitutional rights" playing 24-7? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45812446  United States09/10/2013 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46640540 aw does badass ar-15 boy carry a permit when its already backed by the 2nd amendment. Just like my brother, all talk, but bows to the government for a permit that's guaranteed by the constitution. Either be a true patriot, or give in completely to tyranny. Just carry a copy of the constitution and tell the cop to fuck himself. :trololol: Actually, that won't work. You don't have a constitutional right to carry a gun. Oh, lets hear it twotards! Beat me down! Now, read the rest of my post: In the recent SCOTUS case, they ruled that you do not have a constitutional right that we take for granted: The right to remain silent (Protected by the 5th Amendment). What???!!! No, you don't because you have to FORMALLY CLAIM IT. Now, since we are a constitutional republic, why don't we have the right automatically? Here is why: In 1871 they passed the "Act of 1871". In it they incorporated the government and made it a corporation. What that means is now it obeys commercial law, aka Uniform Commercial Code (UCC), aka Admiralty Law. Since then the DEFACTO law is UCC, not Constitution. In order for the UCC to be used, it cannot be converse or superior to constitutional law. But, since it is the defacto law, you don't have your constitutional rights until you CLAIM THEM. The court brief said it. The case was "Salinas vs Texas". Go read it for yourself: [link to www.scotusblog.com] This is how they enforce unconstitutional laws on us. They use the UCC, but, the UCC is subordinate to the law of the land, the constitution. Proper way to handle this would have been as soon as you get out of the vehicle, declare your right to keep and bear arms as protected by the second amendment. ...and while you're at it, declare your right to remain silent as protected by the 5th amendment. It doesn't have to be real formal. So, there you have it. DECLARE your rights. If you don't, the supreme court says you don't have them. This would be true for rights under a state constitution as well. Just out of interest (as it doesn't apply to a serf like me) what is the recognised and lawful procedure for CLAIMING YOUR RIGHTS? Do you have to have a sign-board that you carry everywhere you go, or a tape player on a loop declaring "I expressly claim all my Consitutional rights" playing 24-7? Well, since you are under the EXACT same 'system' as America...I'd start with making a Declaration of Intent public and writing an Affidavit of Truth. Then you need to file your Affidavit of Truth with the appropriate State, County, & District representatives, and keep a copy on you at all times. All of your transactions with the government MUST BE NOTARIZED. A public notary IS A COURT OFFICIAL. Affidavit of Truth. Family name /Given name "Copy right" ( I am John of the family Doe), Right? of Claim, Formal revoking of the SSN all duly "Notarized" all certified copies sent to the appropriate agencies/departments. then, and only then do you have a fighting chance, because now you are in a Common Law jurisdiction, THEY do not like this, because they ONLY practice Admiralty/UCC law. Good luck... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46632900 United Kingdom09/10/2013 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Cloud Hidden Just carry a copy of the constitution and tell the cop to fuck himself. :trololol: Actually, that won't work. You don't have a constitutional right to carry a gun. Oh, lets hear it twotards! Beat me down! Now, read the rest of my post: In the recent SCOTUS case, they ruled that you do not have a constitutional right that we take for granted: The right to remain silent (Protected by the 5th Amendment). What???!!! No, you don't because you have to FORMALLY CLAIM IT. Now, since we are a constitutional republic, why don't we have the right automatically? Here is why: In 1871 they passed the "Act of 1871". In it they incorporated the government and made it a corporation. What that means is now it obeys commercial law, aka Uniform Commercial Code (UCC), aka Admiralty Law. Since then the DEFACTO law is UCC, not Constitution. In order for the UCC to be used, it cannot be converse or superior to constitutional law. But, since it is the defacto law, you don't have your constitutional rights until you CLAIM THEM. The court brief said it. The case was "Salinas vs Texas". Go read it for yourself: [link to www.scotusblog.com] This is how they enforce unconstitutional laws on us. They use the UCC, but, the UCC is subordinate to the law of the land, the constitution. Proper way to handle this would have been as soon as you get out of the vehicle, declare your right to keep and bear arms as protected by the second amendment. ...and while you're at it, declare your right to remain silent as protected by the 5th amendment. It doesn't have to be real formal. So, there you have it. DECLARE your rights. If you don't, the supreme court says you don't have them. This would be true for rights under a state constitution as well. Just out of interest (as it doesn't apply to a serf like me) what is the recognised and lawful procedure for CLAIMING YOUR RIGHTS? Do you have to have a sign-board that you carry everywhere you go, or a tape player on a loop declaring "I expressly claim all my Consitutional rights" playing 24-7? Well, since you are under the EXACT same 'system' as America...I'd start with making a Declaration of Intent public and writing an Affidavit of Truth. Then you need to file your Affidavit of Truth with the appropriate State, County, & District representatives, and keep a copy on you at all times. All of your transactions with the government MUST BE NOTARIZED. A public notary IS A COURT OFFICIAL. Affidavit of Truth. Family name /Given name "Copy right" ( I am John of the family Doe), Right? of Claim, Formal revoking of the SSN all duly "Notarized" all certified copies sent to the appropriate agencies/departments. then, and only then do you have a fighting chance, because now you are in a Common Law jurisdiction, THEY do not like this, because they ONLY practice Admiralty/UCC law. Good luck... Thank you for your response. I assume you are referring to English Common Law here, and not the US Bill of Rights? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46260210 United States09/10/2013 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45796801 United States09/10/2013 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first thing you do is show them the permit with hands in plain view.I never had a problem. Quoting: ar-15 nut aw does badass ar-15 boy carry a permit when its already backed by the 2nd amendment. Just like my brother, all talk, but bows to the government for a permit that's guaranteed by the constitution. Either be a true patriot, or give in completely to tyranny. You're an idiot This is why we are in the situation we are. An idiot for having the same mindset as our founders. Your docile, weak, and ignorant. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45812446 United States09/10/2013 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37686313 Actually, that won't work. You don't have a constitutional right to carry a gun. Oh, lets hear it twotards! Beat me down! Now, read the rest of my post: In the recent SCOTUS case, they ruled that you do not have a constitutional right that we take for granted: The right to remain silent (Protected by the 5th Amendment). What???!!! No, you don't because you have to FORMALLY CLAIM IT. Now, since we are a constitutional republic, why don't we have the right automatically? Here is why: In 1871 they passed the "Act of 1871". In it they incorporated the government and made it a corporation. What that means is now it obeys commercial law, aka Uniform Commercial Code (UCC), aka Admiralty Law. Since then the DEFACTO law is UCC, not Constitution. In order for the UCC to be used, it cannot be converse or superior to constitutional law. But, since it is the defacto law, you don't have your constitutional rights until you CLAIM THEM. The court brief said it. The case was "Salinas vs Texas". Go read it for yourself: [link to www.scotusblog.com] This is how they enforce unconstitutional laws on us. They use the UCC, but, the UCC is subordinate to the law of the land, the constitution. Proper way to handle this would have been as soon as you get out of the vehicle, declare your right to keep and bear arms as protected by the second amendment. ...and while you're at it, declare your right to remain silent as protected by the 5th amendment. It doesn't have to be real formal. So, there you have it. DECLARE your rights. If you don't, the supreme court says you don't have them. This would be true for rights under a state constitution as well. Just out of interest (as it doesn't apply to a serf like me) what is the recognised and lawful procedure for CLAIMING YOUR RIGHTS? Do you have to have a sign-board that you carry everywhere you go, or a tape player on a loop declaring "I expressly claim all my Consitutional rights" playing 24-7? Well, since you are under the EXACT same 'system' as America...I'd start with making a Declaration of Intent public and writing an Affidavit of Truth. Then you need to file your Affidavit of Truth with the appropriate State, County, & District representatives, and keep a copy on you at all times. All of your transactions with the government MUST BE NOTARIZED. A public notary IS A COURT OFFICIAL. Affidavit of Truth. Family name /Given name "Copy right" ( I am John of the family Doe), Right? of Claim, Formal revoking of the SSN all duly "Notarized" all certified copies sent to the appropriate agencies/departments. then, and only then do you have a fighting chance, because now you are in a Common Law jurisdiction, THEY do not like this, because they ONLY practice Admiralty/UCC law. Good luck... Thank you for your response. I assume you are referring to English Common Law here, and not the US Bill of Rights? Common Law is the same everywhere. All you must be saying in your Affidavit of Truth is that you agree to live by the Universal Laws of Nature, E.g. Common Law not to harm others & to honor your contracts. If you get GOOD at this you can claim Executor status of your Strawman account...you can make the Judge run out of a courtroom faster than a Vietnamese hooker going down... Simply because all an Admiralty Courtroom is, is an equity tribunal, where the 'judge' declares himself Executor/Administrator of your 'Strawman'...e.g. 'NAME IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS', giving himself 'jurisdiction' over your 'Natural Self'. Ultimately it's ALL Roman Ecclesiastical Law....which is why I laugh at the Englishmen trying to claim Magna Charta as a legitimate document....how can it be when then King signed over his Kingdom to Rome in 1213? Lol.... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4469901 Canada09/10/2013 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a question here don't jump on me but how did the cop know this guy didnt just escape from prison? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46150536 Variety of reasons. first the license plate, second the tag, third his drivers license, fourth his permit to CC, and finally the fact he has the money to own both the permit to CC and of course the weapon itself. The cop overstepped his boundaries and probably got quite the chewing out over the "Public image" he screwed up and how his boss has to smooth things over with the "People upstairs". |
| Dr3aMShAd0w User ID: 6813658 United States09/10/2013 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a question here don't jump on me but how did the cop know this guy didnt just escape from prison? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46150536 its not a question of, 'Is this man guilty of something?' its a question of, 'has this man shown any signs of hostility?' The cops over reacted, enough said. He should have simply asked, 'Sir do you have a permit for that concealed weapon?' with-in mere seconds the conflict could have been resolved by showing both; - The cop knew the man was armed. - The man knew the cop knew he was armed. yes a confusing train of thought, but only if you over think it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1048618 United States09/10/2013 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42161580 United States09/10/2013 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have to honest with you guys this happens more often that not ! I'm talking everyday around the clock , Now remember this was for a broken tail light. Not a rapist or murder ! There is no innocent until proven guilty , they should just change that law because its not reality. Thats why i live in AZ, you can conceal carry with out a permit. You can carry a loaded weapon in your car and there's less crime. Don't have broken tail light ! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46587124 United States09/10/2013 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42161580 United States09/10/2013 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In CC class, they tell you when you get pulled over, to present your CC permit along with your Drivers license. Let them know you are packing. Don't let it be a suprize. Quoting: Intruth Still, bitches need to recognize it is our right to carry. The cop had a gun , he's just a bad officer with little skills in the line of duty ! To protect and serve , a public servant ! |
| silvervega User ID: 46368876 United States09/10/2013 06:17 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good Nazi police in action as usual over-reacting. Good that man was not killed on spot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34780011 Why do you really need guns, people. You never shoot at police even when your life is at stake. On the other hand you people can shoot your neighbours over ... trespassing. Strange ... Exactly why YOU should never own one, even considering shooting neighbors is or even assuming every gun owner would do something like that is ridiculous. Every responsible person should carry...you two pussies should not however. Agreed...  Agree as well On the other hand, I have different fingers. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45593057 United States09/10/2013 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| scottfree User ID: 45982978 United States09/10/2013 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That old guy should get a good lawyer and sue the shit outa the department and officer himself. Guaranteed 6 fiqure settlement from the government, and settlement from the officers union! Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST He be gettin paid! Agreed! Never waste a good crisis, huh? J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil. Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves. |
| Reckless Driver User ID: 46646896 United States09/10/2013 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got pulled over last weekend for speeding in Western NC coming back from Stone mtn. with my dogs. Told the trooper that both my wife and I are CC permit holders and are both armed. He asked where our weapons are and I told him that mine is on the floor right under my seat and that hers is in her bag by her feet. He never asked to see either of our permits or ask us to exit. Came back with a 68 mph in 55mph ticket, which is about what I was doing. Said he liked my German Shepherds in the back seat, thanked me for telling him about the weapons and told me to have a good day. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46567492 United States09/10/2013 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first thing you do is show them the permit with hands in plain view.I never had a problem. Quoting: ar-15 nut aw does badass ar-15 boy carry a permit when its already backed by the 2nd amendment. Just like my brother, all talk, but bows to the government for a permit that's guaranteed by the constitution. Either be a true patriot, or give in completely to tyranny. I agree, but they've fooled 99.9% of people into thinking they must grovel, 'apply', 'register' for a 'license'. Well, why do you need a 'license' for something that is 100% LAWFUL to begin with? They can't 'license' anything that is UNLAWFUL, can they? Of course not! It's because you signed away your Sovereignty to agree to become a 14th amendment lower-case 'citizen'. All of your rights are now 'civil' instead of 'Unalienable'. That means you agree to grovel. By 'applying' for things that are perfectly, 100% LAWFUL, you agree to their Admiralty jurisdiction. (See Drivers License, Gun License, etc....who was the first one to Start 'Licensing', the King of England...starting to make sense yet?) Time for people to start waiving the benefits of being a lower-case 'citizen' and reclaim their Sovereign status. That's why police (see - Polic-E, POLICY Enforcement) can 'enforce laws' against people instead of being 'Peace Officers', which is what they were intended to be to begin with, prior to YOU 'citizens' being declared enemies of the State by the revised Trading with the Enemy Act signed into law by FDR, March 9, 1933... Everything they are doing to our civilization is Legal, but not LAWFUL. That's why even the Vatican recently declared all Corporations they previously held shares in all so-called government corporations to be criminal organizations(See, U.S.A, INC. Canada, INC, Australia, Inc, England, Inc, New Zealand, Inc)... Fight them with your head, you'll never win in a shootout. Excellent.  |
| scottfree User ID: 45982978 United States09/10/2013 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got pulled over last weekend for speeding in Western NC coming back from Stone mtn. with my dogs. Told the trooper that both my wife and I are CC permit holders and are both armed. Quoting: Reckless Driver 46646896 He asked where our weapons are and I told him that mine is on the floor right under my seat and that hers is in her bag by her feet. He never asked to see either of our permits or ask us to exit. Came back with a 68 mph in 55mph ticket, which is about what I was doing. Said he liked my German Shepherds in the back seat, thanked me for telling him about the weapons and told me to have a good day. I love it! Common courtesy from both sides of the party. Wish it was more common. J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil. Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43274504 United States09/10/2013 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first thing you do is show them the permit with hands in plain view.I never had a problem. Quoting: ar-15 nut aw does badass ar-15 boy carry a permit when its already backed by the 2nd amendment. Just like my brother, all talk, but bows to the government for a permit that's guaranteed by the constitution. Either be a true patriot, or give in completely to tyranny. Just carry a copy of the constitution and tell the cop to fuck himself. :trololol: Amendment II A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. ****** Removing what's in-between the commas ******* A well regulated militia.....shall not be infringed The second amendment has nothing to do with the private ownership of guns, it deals with the militia which is nowadays the national guard, which is controlled by the Corporate Democracy. The private ownership of guns is protected by the 9th amendment: Amendment IX The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15583309 United States09/10/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good Nazi police in action as usual over-reacting. Good that man was not killed on spot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34780011 Why do you really need guns, people. You never shoot at police even when your life is at stake. On the other hand you people can shoot your neighbours over ... trespassing. Strange ... Not much of a student of human history are you? Matter of fact your not much of a student of logic either. I would say educate yourself... But people like you, 9 times out of 10, are too stupid to learn. Though, ask you anything about a celebrity and you know it all. Ask about history, physics, mathematics, logical reasoning or philosophy and you blink your eyes rapidly in confusion. Sadly, this so called "modern age" should really read: moron age. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46150536 United States09/10/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a question here don't jump on me but how did the cop know this guy didnt just escape from prison? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46150536 its not a question of, 'Is this man guilty of something?' its a question of, 'has this man shown any signs of hostility?' The cops over reacted, enough said. He should have simply asked, 'Sir do you have a permit for that concealed weapon?' with-in mere seconds the conflict could have been resolved by showing both; - The cop knew the man was armed. - The man knew the cop knew he was armed. yes a confusing train of thought, but only if you over think it. Thanks that makes sense now. |
