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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18401048 United States 09/10/2013 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont know. Quoting: Mr Oysterhead I think the official story on the towers could very well be true. But the DC and Bldg 7 ones dont add up for me. I've been MIA/lurking for a while...is that you or a different mollusk? it is I howdy! Hey! Love the avatar...I used to have the poster. :thumbsup: |
*Evan (OP) User ID: 43993722 United States 09/10/2013 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont know. Quoting: Mr Oysterhead I think the official story on the towers could very well be true. But the DC and Bldg 7 ones dont add up for me. I've been MIA/lurking for a while...is that you or a different mollusk? it is I howdy! Hey! Love the avatar...I used to have the poster. I need a new avatar, I'm gettin sick of looking at the homo in mine. |
ceawaves User ID: 44925563 Germany 09/10/2013 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ceawaves makes a solid point but you cant paint Bush as "the new kid on the block". let us not forget how many years his dad was of major influence in the fed. Clinton was the president for 8 long years while ALL this was building up, attack after attack.. NOT Bush 1 or 2.. hey i completely agree that some, if not the majority, of the responsibility for 9/11 specifically lies with Clinton. i just think the roots go back deeper, that's all. For sure.. Jimmy Carter also comes to mind. It's just a mess we're paying/funding/supporting/importing our own demise! Last Edited by ceawaves on 09/10/2013 02:04 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34896882 Belgium 09/10/2013 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel did 9/11 - ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD [link to theinfounderground.com] Try to debunk that, Jew-lover. |
*Evan (OP) User ID: 43993722 United States 09/10/2013 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And never forget that Jimmy Carter was the one who expanded the student visa program by which the CIA and other agencies move all of their foreign-born assets into and out of the country, as well as being the first president after the Gold Denial of '73 to "open the spigot" of pure USD Fiat... with disastrous results. Quoting: LT Prepper This shit's been going on a Loooooong time... Wow. I didn't know that. I tried posting in your nazi thread this morning, but it was locked...I could not. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10757509 Canada 09/10/2013 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's pretty widely believed around here that the official story was a lie, so take your pick! Quoting: *Evan Pick the one that comes closest to who you think is responsible. You left off the option of Clinton Appeasement policies and his failure to arrest bin laden and make an example of him? even though i hate bin laden, and he deserves to burn in hell for what he did to the afghanis, but i just can't believe a guy literally living in a cave would be responsible for such calculated act. why did they dump his body in the sea ?!!! something stinks to the high heavens |
Resister User ID: 36421936 United States 09/10/2013 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So many plausible players and so many undeniable inconsistencies and odd coincidences. I don’t think we will ever have proof of exactly who was the ultimate mastermind. I think it is a combination of several in that list… a “conspiracy” if you will. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
*Evan (OP) User ID: 43993722 United States 09/10/2013 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel did 9/11 - ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD [link to theinfounderground.com] Try to debunk that, Jew-lover. |
*Rhombus* User ID: 38804434 United States 09/10/2013 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And never forget that Jimmy Carter was the one who expanded the student visa program by which the CIA and other agencies move all of their foreign-born assets into and out of the country, as well as being the first president after the Gold Denial of '73 to "open the spigot" of pure USD Fiat... with disastrous results. Quoting: LT Prepper This shit's been going on a Loooooong time... Wow. I didn't know that. Me neither...I'm gonna have to look into that. What's new, Comedian? I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 09/10/2013 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel did 9/11 - ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD [link to theinfounderground.com] Try to debunk that, Jew-lover. debunk it? I am not even going to waste my time reading it... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35291258 United States 09/10/2013 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Other! The media would be the most accurate answer, but I suppose they are affiliated with the banking cartels. Never forget the media showed you fake videos of cgi plane crashes! In all of the impact footage, notably the Hezarkhani, Luc Courchesne, Carmen Taylor, Spiegel TV and Evan Fairbanks footage we see the plane entering the steel tower like a ghost without any part of it breaking which is absolutely impossible. This is cartoon physics. A passenger jet is a hollow aluminum and plastic tube which is highly vulnerable to impacts with flying birds. [link to imageshack.us] It is impossible for fragile mostly hollow aluminum wings to slice through the 14 inch steel beams of the WTC and also leave a perfect imprint. The wings would break off immediately upon contact. The planes were depicted as being inside and intact the Twin Towers, a pair of buildings made with 200,000 tons of steel each. [link to imageshack.us] When the tip of the plane’s fuselage hits the steel exterior of the South Tower the fuselage should be breaking up. [link to i581.photobucket.com] That would cause the wings to break off. From the holes left in both towers after “impact” we are supposed to believe the wings cut through the steel beams but this is simply impossible. The hole is the full length of the wingspan but not only is it impossible for the wings to have cut through the steel columns but it is absolutely impossible for the fragile wing tips to have also cut through the steel columns. [link to imageshack.us] An airplane wing can be sliced in half by a wooden telephone pole so how could it possibly hope to cut through steel? [link to www.youtube.com] Isaac Newton’s Third Law of Motion: “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.” High school physics states that the force an airplane exerts on a building is the same as the force a building exerts on an airplane. Let’s apply Newton’s Third Law to Flight 175. In the 9/11 story, Flight 175 strikes the South Tower at 450 m.p.h. Now imagine that the South Tower moved at 450 m.p.h. and struck a stationary Flight 175. We would not expect that Flight 175 would be undamaged. We would not expect that it would simply disappear into the South Tower. Any video that shows an aluminum airplane with a plastic nosecone gliding through a steel/concrete building violates Newton’s Laws of Motion. The plane did not slow down as it made contact with the tower. How can the plane fly at the same speed through the WTC as it did through the air? This is impossible according to laws of physics. As the alleged plane made contact with the tower there was no bending, buckling or breaking of the plane. No wings breaking or other parts of the plane breaking apart. It cartoonishly melts into the side of the tower like a knife through butter. [link to img159.imageshack.us] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10757509 Canada 09/10/2013 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's very disturbing that over 7% actually think muslims had anything to do with 9/11. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41311921 It goes to show you just how many imbeciles there are out there. and the fact that muslims bragged about it means nothing to you? sure they would have, it was such an important calculated attack on the most powerful country in the world, at the world's most important city. muslims always brag |
*Evan (OP) User ID: 43993722 United States 09/10/2013 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Other! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35291258 The media would be the most accurate answer, but I suppose they are affiliated with the banking cartels. Never forget the media showed you fake videos of cgi plane crashes! In all of the impact footage, notably the Hezarkhani, Luc Courchesne, Carmen Taylor, Spiegel TV and Evan Fairbanks footage we see the plane entering the steel tower like a ghost without any part of it breaking which is absolutely impossible. This is cartoon physics. A passenger jet is a hollow aluminum and plastic tube which is highly vulnerable to impacts with flying birds. [link to imageshack.us] It is impossible for fragile mostly hollow aluminum wings to slice through the 14 inch steel beams of the WTC and also leave a perfect imprint. The wings would break off immediately upon contact. The planes were depicted as being inside and intact the Twin Towers, a pair of buildings made with 200,000 tons of steel each. [link to imageshack.us] When the tip of the plane’s fuselage hits the steel exterior of the South Tower the fuselage should be breaking up. [link to i581.photobucket.com] That would cause the wings to break off. From the holes left in both towers after “impact” we are supposed to believe the wings cut through the steel beams but this is simply impossible. The hole is the full length of the wingspan but not only is it impossible for the wings to have cut through the steel columns but it is absolutely impossible for the fragile wing tips to have also cut through the steel columns. [link to imageshack.us] An airplane wing can be sliced in half by a wooden telephone pole so how could it possibly hope to cut through steel? [link to www.youtube.com] Isaac Newton’s Third Law of Motion: “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.” High school physics states that the force an airplane exerts on a building is the same as the force a building exerts on an airplane. Let’s apply Newton’s Third Law to Flight 175. In the 9/11 story, Flight 175 strikes the South Tower at 450 m.p.h. Now imagine that the South Tower moved at 450 m.p.h. and struck a stationary Flight 175. We would not expect that Flight 175 would be undamaged. We would not expect that it would simply disappear into the South Tower. Any video that shows an aluminum airplane with a plastic nosecone gliding through a steel/concrete building violates Newton’s Laws of Motion. The plane did not slow down as it made contact with the tower. How can the plane fly at the same speed through the WTC as it did through the air? This is impossible according to laws of physics. As the alleged plane made contact with the tower there was no bending, buckling or breaking of the plane. No wings breaking or other parts of the plane breaking apart. It cartoonishly melts into the side of the tower like a knife through butter. [link to img159.imageshack.us] They were not CGI images of plane crashes. I personally know someone who was shopping near the towers that morning and saw the 2nd plane. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18401048 United States 09/10/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mr Oysterhead ceawaves makes a solid point but you cant paint Bush as "the new kid on the block". let us not forget how many years his dad was of major influence in the fed. Clinton was the president for 8 long years while ALL this was building up, attack after attack.. NOT Bush 1 or 2.. hey i completely agree that some, if not the majority, of the responsibility for 9/11 specifically lies with Clinton. i just think the roots go back deeper, that's all. For sure.. Jimmy Carter also comes to mind. It's just a mess we're paying/funding/supporting/importing our own demise! as long as we have an iron in the fire we will always be involved. other than our national interests (keeping oil flowing out of the region) I dont see a reason at all why any, Israel included, country in the ME should receive any of our support or attention. |
*Evan (OP) User ID: 43993722 United States 09/10/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no but if my dad owned a baseball team it makes me rich, influential and i also own a baseball team. NO it does not..you're assuming now.. ^ This ^ GWB was a competent pilot, a fair student (much better than say, John Fucking Kerry, the borderline retarded Al Gore, or the genuinely retarded Joe Biden), and an acceptable business man. He was an elitist Republican who was far outside the circles of power in Washington and the media establishment. He was not a traitor, a conservative, or a particularly wise man. He was not an idiot, a criminal mastermind, or a carbon copy of his father who was exceptionally bright and far more evil. ^ My evaluation ^ Again I must agree. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46629681 United Kingdom 09/10/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So many plausible players and so many undeniable inconsistencies and odd coincidences. I don’t think we will ever have proof of exactly who was the ultimate mastermind. I think it is a combination of several in that list… a “conspiracy” if you will. Quoting: Resister i think every single spook agency on the planet had a hand in it. |
davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 09/10/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's pretty widely believed around here that the official story was a lie, so take your pick! Quoting: *Evan Pick the one that comes closest to who you think is responsible. You left off the option of Clinton Appeasement policies and his failure to arrest bin laden and make an example of him? even though i hate bin laden, and he deserves to burn in hell for what he did to the afghanis, but i just can't believe a guy literally living in a cave would be responsible for such calculated act. why did they dump his body in the sea ?!!! something stinks to the high heavens What cave...? He didn't always live in a cave. The only reason that 911 worked was the simplicity of the plot. Our security services give the terrorist far too much credit and over prepare for an attack when all it takes is a little imagination... 911 was successful for them because it was not the least bit complicated. |
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davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 09/10/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no but if my dad owned a baseball team it makes me rich, influential and i also own a baseball team. NO it does not..you're assuming now.. ^ This ^ GWB was a competent pilot, a fair student (much better than say, John Fucking Kerry, the borderline retarded Al Gore, or the genuinely retarded Joe Biden), and an acceptable business man. He was an elitist Republican who was far outside the circles of power in Washington and the media establishment. He was not a traitor, a conservative, or a particularly wise man. He was not an idiot, a criminal mastermind, or a carbon copy of his father who was exceptionally bright and far more evil. ^ My evaluation ^ Last Edited by deplorable but adorable davvi on 09/10/2013 02:11 PM |
*Evan (OP) User ID: 43993722 United States 09/10/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ceawaves Clinton was the president for 8 long years while ALL this was building up, attack after attack.. NOT Bush 1 or 2.. hey i completely agree that some, if not the majority, of the responsibility for 9/11 specifically lies with Clinton. i just think the roots go back deeper, that's all. For sure.. Jimmy Carter also comes to mind. It's just a mess we're paying/funding/supporting/importing our own demise! as long as we have an iron in the fire we will always be involved. other than our national interests (keeping oil flowing out of the region) I dont see a reason at all why any, Israel included, country in the ME should receive any of our support or attention. Well said bud. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18401048 United States 09/10/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | other than our national interests (keeping oil flowing out of the region) I dont see a reason at all why any, Israel included, country in the ME should receive any of our support or attention. Quoting: Mr Oysterhead I completely agree. We're broke. We're worse than broke. The handouts to the bums and thugs and son-in-laws must end yesterday. the charade is all going to come crashing down one day it has to and most of us will probably be alive to see it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36426283 United States 09/10/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The names are all coming out through investigations, so they need WWIII now to cover their tracks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36426283 It's a risk for them to create WWIII, but one I'm sure they have no problem going forward with, considering the alternatives. When you have people accusing politicians like McCain of being a traitor to his face on camera, you know they are going to have to do something really big to take attention away from themselves. |
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*Rhombus* User ID: 38804434 United States 09/10/2013 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no but if my dad owned a baseball team it makes me rich, influential and i also own a baseball team. NO it does not..you're assuming now.. ^ This ^ GWB was a competent pilot, a fair student (much better than say, John Fucking Kerry, the borderline retarded Al Gore, or the genuinely retarded Joe Biden), and an acceptable business man. He was an elitist Republican who was far outside the circles of power in Washington and the media establishment. He was not a traitor, a conservative, or a particularly wise man. He was not an idiot, a criminal mastermind, or a carbon copy of his father who was exceptionally bright and far more evil. ^ My evaluation ^ I think W has serious daddy issues. He's not a moron, but those sorts of complex emotional entanglements are powerful and can definitely influence behavior. Just MHO. Last Edited by *Rhombus* on 09/10/2013 02:14 PM I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
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