Warning: The DARK LORD has planted LIARS among the thousands of FALSE CHURCHES among you. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF WOLVES IN SHEEP SKIN COATS.

I don't worry too much about the bible versions unless it's like "the message." This is how I see it, there could be a possibility that most scripture "touched" by an anti-christ is somewhat defiled. I do not worship the scriptures nor translation. Just like the worldly churches it creates division. It's just a book. There is no life in that book. Seek the WORD, don't worry too much about the scriptures. Love is the fulfillment of the law. So, live and let live. Love one another. Stop fighting over this and that. Blessed are the peace makers.

John gave his disciples to Jesus. What was the word? emasculate?

Proverbs 28:9 ESV If one turns away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer is an abomination.

I still find it disturbing that you have so mutch emphasis on the NAME and not the spirit, I was given no name when i found God but only love, now what lets us connect is maybe the spirit of love, but the name is still unspoken for me, and i distrust feeble human writings full of errors
That is also why i have not written a book with all my good findigs, i know i am full of fail and i can not make the perfect book and even if i could it would be misunderstood, because i am still human

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Very, VERY interesting stuff OP. I'll share some scriptures to help illustrate my experience over the past 6 years.

2 Corinthians 12:7-9
New International Version (NIV)
7 or because of these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me.

Zechariah 13:9


And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

Hebrews 10: 38-39

38 And,

“But my righteous[g] one will live by faith.
And I take no pleasure
in the one who shrinks back.”[h]
39 But we do not belong to those who shrink back and are destroyed, but to those who have faith and are saved.

Matthew 7:13

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.


Bless you OP.

I have been asking God for a thorn. I believe I asked him just today. I'm getting a bit cocky and mocky towards liars and persecutors. I have great confidence with who God truly is..

Like someone can threaten me and my eyes may light up. Who can stand against God?

Also, the people speak of a rebellion. Overthrowing the government? This is an arrogant people. Many believe the USA is a super military power. No one can defeat us? Now, many of these same people believe they can overthrow that power in which they boast. Does that make any sense?

What name?

When I see a trap, I sometimes imagine a voice calling out to me. Here fishy fishy fishy..


Angry birds should not fight pigs..

I cannot read so much, or so fast to take all this in.

but I am grateful for a truth I did see
amongst the endless pages of text

When you see a truth in the scriptures, look for an example.

Colossians 2:16-18
 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.


The scriptures are an interpretation of themselves. Yes, the obedient keep the sabbath which was given by a direct command. No, God did not change the day. He would of commanded it but God does not change. The true Sabbath is the 7th day. What is the true 7th day in ISRAEL?


Matthew 12:10
And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse Him.

Mark 3:2
They were watching Him to see if He would heal him on the Sabbath, so that they might accuse Him.


Acts 10:13-15
 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.” The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

Romans 14:2
One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables.

Hebrews 4:6-11
Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience, God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted:

“Today, if you hear his voice,
    do not harden your hearts.”


 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day.  There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;  for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his.  Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.


Remember, keep the Sabbath holy. How can one who is unholy keep the Sabbath holy? How can they enter that rest? For he is a God of the living and not the dead. He seeks those who worship in spirit and truth.

James 2:20-24

Faith without works is dead. Seek first his kingdom and his righteousness. Also, works without faith is dead. We are saved by grace, through faith, which is dead without works. The Fathers works in which he has commanded thee to obey..

Philippians 3:2-6
Look out for the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh.  For we are the circumcision, who worship by the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh— though I myself have reason for confidence in the flesh also. If anyone else thinks he has reason for confidence in the flesh, I have more: circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the law, a Pharisee; as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to righteousness under the law, blameless.

HOW CAN YOU HEAR WITHOUT A PREACHER???


YOU HAVE BEEN PREACHED TOO!!!!


DO YOU HEAR "THE WORD"???


THEN YOU CAN PROCEED!!!!

Holy Spirit..

If a man has the holy spirit it is life that teaches, not death. He has gone through the gate.

One without the spirit should not teach.

One should not want to teach.

Then cry unto Him, that His will be done & the kingdom come...
As Is He not All that matters.

Learning more about repentance. My main biblical focus right now.

As All should in agreement Love)))

I do not support the Protestant or Catholic churches. I do not support the denomination or non-denomination churches.

Do not bring their nonsense here. I do not support faithless, non-believing, worldly churches.

Is that your response to me?

nope, I deleted their lies.

If lies are lies they become obvious in truth pointing to that truth,
At least here in this world in the knowledge of evil...
So why delete them.

Ignorance

I don't understand what you mean...

1 Corinthians 15:33 - Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character.”

Romans 16:18 - For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.

2 Timothy 2:16-18 - Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some.

Titus 1:11
They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach—and that for the sake of dishonest gain.

2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Acts 20:30
Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.

Acts 13:10
“You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?

Galatians 2:4-6
This matter arose because some false believers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves. We did not give in to them for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might be preserved for you. As for those who were held in high esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism—they added nothing to my message.

Jude 1:4
For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

2 Thessalonians 1:8
He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

1 Timothy 1:3-4
As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer or to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. Such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God’s work—which is by faith.

2 Peter 2:21
It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them.

Galatians 1:6-9
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

A thousand may fall at your side...

2 Timothy 2:14
Keep reminding God’s people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.





I have noticed that one could ask a question. As I seek and find, I may find an answer. In doing so, as I teach, I learn. I have taught myself, well God has taught me a lot this way. However, the holy spirit makes overseers. One must go through the gate.

James 3:1-5
Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check. When we put bits into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal. Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. Likewise, the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark.

2 Peter 2:1
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.

2 Timothy 3:8
Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected.

2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

Hebrews 5:12
In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food!

1 Timothy 1:7
They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

2 Timothy 1:11
And of this gospel I was appointed a herald and an apostle and a teacher.

1 Timothy 2:7
And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle—I am telling the truth, I am not lying—and a true and faithful teacher of the Gentiles.

Acts 20:28
Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.


1 Timothy 3:1-13
Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full[a] respect. (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap. In the same way, deacons are to be worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain. They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience. 10 They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons. In the same way, the women are to be worthy of respect, not malicious talkers but temperate and trustworthy in everything. A deacon must be faithful to his wife and must manage his children and his household well. Those who have served well gain an excellent standing and great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus.

Titus 1:5-9
The reason I left you in Crete was that you might put in order what was left unfinished and appoint elders in every town, as I directed you. An elder must be blameless, faithful to his wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. Since an overseer manages God’s household, he must be blameless—not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. Rather, he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

Acts 6:2-4
So the Twelve gathered all the disciples together and said, “It would not be right for us to neglect the ministry of the word of God in order to wait on tables. Brothers and sisters, choose seven men from among you who are known to be full of the Spirit and wisdom. We will turn this responsibility over to them and will give our attention to prayer and the ministry of the word.”

1 Timothy 5:20
But those elders who are sinning you are to reprove before everyone, so that the others may take warning.