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Message Subject I no longer have the desire to own a house, to buy things, to work for someone else, to watch TV, listen to music, to have sex, to have friends.
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Sorry, pleasure is very real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38706893


The key point is this. Pleasure and fun is temporary and fake. It stops the pain and suffering for just a little while, like any drug.

Happiness is constant and real. You can't buy happiness. But, you can buy pleasure and fun, but they don't last long and then the suffering returns...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46810014


I think happiness is more dependent on other things - attaining something, and because it's dependent on something else, it's not constant. Being content, however, means you're satisfied no matter what. You don't need to get something, or for something in particular to happen, in order to be content, you just are. It does not have the high/lows that happiness does.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


I just do not see how withdrawing from the world, and becoming completely "dispassionate" about things and "apathetic," increase happiness.

Or rather, I do see how it can increase "happiness," but only when one's experience of the world has been painful.

To me, an engaged, passionate, adventurous life would be closer to ideal than dispassionate withdrawal.

But when life has been more pain than pleasure, then maybe withdrawal is a happier condition.

That is what I think this is ultimately about. Escaping from a life that brings more pain than pleasure, unhappiness than happiness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38706893


I think it's more an emphasis on being content with yourself and not relying on people or things for that contentment. If your "happiness" is based on being adventurous, having a bunch of "stuff" and needing money to buy that stuff, a variety of different relationships, then there is a pretty big risk that if something prevents you from getting/maintaining those things (injuries, losing a job,arguments, etc.), you won't be happy. It's like being on a roller coaster, and your control is limited. If you're content on the inside, you don't need all of those things to remain in that state; you're in control.

You can still very much be engaged, just with different things, not so much the materialistic/superficial stuff or other people.

People have different passions. People can be passionate about what this entire thread is about - simplicity.

Btw, where I live, the "world" can be a very ugly place. Withdrawing from it is when I feel the most at peace! Being "out there," is a frightening and frustrating experience sometimes.
 
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