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The fear.

Yesterday I had sleep paralysis, which I hadn't had in almost two months. My whole body starts feeling like the feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, MAJOR vibration. I don't know what brings it on. I can't get past the fear. At first it was sight and hearing hallucinations (which I didn't know were hallucinations until I read about them), and now it's just energy. I sense EVIL energy when I get into sleep paralysis. Like something is choking my WHOLE body tight. Well first the first time in my life, I saw my arms OUTSIDE MY BODY!!! I was shocked! I was still in first person view, but my arms looked so transparent and didn't have any color to them. Just a black and white static transparency.

Anyway, I want to try again tonight. I told my family, but I'm starting to suspect they think I'm crazy. I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!

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The fear.

Yesterday I had sleep paralysis, which I hadn't had in almost two months. My whole body starts feeling like the feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, MAJOR vibration. I don't know what brings it on. I can't get past the fear. At first it was sight and hearing hallucinations (which I didn't know were hallucinations until I read about them), and now it's just energy. I sense EVIL energy when I get into sleep paralysis. Like something is choking my WHOLE body tight. Well first the first time in my life, I saw my arms OUTSIDE MY BODY!!! I was shocked! I was still in first person view, but my arms looked so transparent and didn't have any color to them. Just a black and white static transparency.

Anyway, I want to try again tonight. I told my family, but I'm starting to suspect they think I'm crazy. I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
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Its not evil energy that's all coming from your head/fear.

ITs simply the body shutting down its activity. I've had this happen to me, at first its cool ( I thought ), but I am not you. Just relax into it and think of it as a robot suit that is redirecting resources and shutting down energy to non used parts.
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The fear.

Yesterday I had sleep paralysis, which I hadn't had in almost two months. My whole body starts feeling like the feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, MAJOR vibration. I don't know what brings it on. I can't get past the fear. At first it was sight and hearing hallucinations (which I didn't know were hallucinations until I read about them), and now it's just energy. I sense EVIL energy when I get into sleep paralysis. Like something is choking my WHOLE body tight. Well first the first time in my life, I saw my arms OUTSIDE MY BODY!!! I was shocked! I was still in first person view, but my arms looked so transparent and didn't have any color to them. Just a black and white static transparency.

Anyway, I want to try again tonight. I told my family, but I'm starting to suspect they think I'm crazy. I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
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shadow being aka jinn is proyecting virtual images in your brain, sorry but you soul are now cloned and connected (1st grade of archon possesion)
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One time I was so green and relaxed I literally felt my body shutting down its physical processes. It was so cool.

With eyes closed first you start seeing little lights, then cloudy forms, then a grid like psychedlic pattern. Then an ordered grid like construction under what are forms. ( though sometimes I can skip stages ).

I've woken up in complete new worlds. I am just learning how to do this.

Its is amazing. And in these worlds you can create anything.

What a gift and worth spending time getting good at it.
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The fear.

Yesterday I had sleep paralysis, which I hadn't had in almost two months. My whole body starts feeling like the feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, MAJOR vibration. I don't know what brings it on. I can't get past the fear. At first it was sight and hearing hallucinations (which I didn't know were hallucinations until I read about them), and now it's just energy. I sense EVIL energy when I get into sleep paralysis. Like something is choking my WHOLE body tight. Well first the first time in my life, I saw my arms OUTSIDE MY BODY!!! I was shocked! I was still in first person view, but my arms looked so transparent and didn't have any color to them. Just a black and white static transparency.

Anyway, I want to try again tonight. I told my family, but I'm starting to suspect they think I'm crazy. I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
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shadow being aka jinn is proyecting virtual images in your brain, sorry but you soul are now cloned and connected (1st grade of archon possesion)
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Whatever you do, DON'T listen to this guy. He speaks with the voice of a demon.
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The fear.

Yesterday I had sleep paralysis, which I hadn't had in almost two months. My whole body starts feeling like the feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, MAJOR vibration. I don't know what brings it on. I can't get past the fear. At first it was sight and hearing hallucinations (which I didn't know were hallucinations until I read about them), and now it's just energy. I sense EVIL energy when I get into sleep paralysis. Like something is choking my WHOLE body tight. Well first the first time in my life, I saw my arms OUTSIDE MY BODY!!! I was shocked! I was still in first person view, but my arms looked so transparent and didn't have any color to them. Just a black and white static transparency.

Anyway, I want to try again tonight. I told my family, but I'm starting to suspect they think I'm crazy. I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
 Quoting: .Kaos


Its not evil energy that's all coming from your head/fear.

ITs simply the body shutting down its activity. I've had this happen to me, at first its cool ( I thought ), but I am not you. Just relax into it and think of it as a robot suit that is redirecting resources and shutting down energy to non used parts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46699194


When I first got rid of the hallucinations, I was very confident that I could get rid of the scared feeling too, but it feels much more real than the others. When I first saw my arms for the first time, I got happy but kept thinking "What if I leave my body now? My body will be empty, and any other entity can jump right in it!". I have too much IF questions I'm aware because I haven't fully understood this amazing gift.


EDIT: Also, I wonder If I'm able to jump back in, or am I in the process of dying :O. The IF questions are what get me. I will definitely take your advice tonight and try to relax.

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The fear.

Yesterday I had sleep paralysis, which I hadn't had in almost two months. My whole body starts feeling like the feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, MAJOR vibration. I don't know what brings it on. I can't get past the fear. At first it was sight and hearing hallucinations (which I didn't know were hallucinations until I read about them), and now it's just energy. I sense EVIL energy when I get into sleep paralysis. Like something is choking my WHOLE body tight. Well first the first time in my life, I saw my arms OUTSIDE MY BODY!!! I was shocked! I was still in first person view, but my arms looked so transparent and didn't have any color to them. Just a black and white static transparency.

Anyway, I want to try again tonight. I told my family, but I'm starting to suspect they think I'm crazy. I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
 Quoting: .Kaos


shadow being aka jinn is proyecting virtual images in your brain, sorry but you soul are now cloned and connected (1st grade of archon possesion)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46707760


Whatever you do, DON'T listen to this guy. He speaks with the voice of a demon.
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I'm sure he's been influenced by people who don't want him to know of the spiritual gifts god as put forth into man. The same as the material influence we are bombarded with everyday.
Possibility is the nature of God, and impossibility is the limitation of man.
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Get past the evil in this state is very hard more you try the harder it pushes. Always ask for help when attempting this
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The fear.

Yesterday I had sleep paralysis, which I hadn't had in almost two months. My whole body starts feeling like the feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, MAJOR vibration. I don't know what brings it on. I can't get past the fear. At first it was sight and hearing hallucinations (which I didn't know were hallucinations until I read about them), and now it's just energy. I sense EVIL energy when I get into sleep paralysis. Like something is choking my WHOLE body tight. Well first the first time in my life, I saw my arms OUTSIDE MY BODY!!! I was shocked! I was still in first person view, but my arms looked so transparent and didn't have any color to them. Just a black and white static transparency.

Anyway, I want to try again tonight. I told my family, but I'm starting to suspect they think I'm crazy. I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
 Quoting: .Kaos


shadow being aka jinn is proyecting virtual images in your brain, sorry but you soul are now cloned and connected (1st grade of archon possesion)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46707760


Whatever you do, DON'T listen to this guy. He speaks with the voice of a demon.
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you need to learn a lot knowledge my friend!
[link to www.dangerofchi.org]
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Get past the evil in this state is very hard more you try the harder it pushes. Always ask for help when attempting this
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I'm very glad you mentioned this. From previous experience reports I've read online, I notice a lot of people mentioning "heavenly" beings that help them. Are these the ones you're mentioning in your post? Does the evil manifestation work both ways in I can also manifest good as well?
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The fear.

Yesterday I had sleep paralysis, which I hadn't had in almost two months. My whole body starts feeling like the feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, MAJOR vibration. I don't know what brings it on. I can't get past the fear. At first it was sight and hearing hallucinations (which I didn't know were hallucinations until I read about them), and now it's just energy. I sense EVIL energy when I get into sleep paralysis. Like something is choking my WHOLE body tight. Well first the first time in my life, I saw my arms OUTSIDE MY BODY!!! I was shocked! I was still in first person view, but my arms looked so transparent and didn't have any color to them. Just a black and white static transparency.

Anyway, I want to try again tonight. I told my family, but I'm starting to suspect they think I'm crazy. I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
 Quoting: .Kaos


shadow being aka jinn is proyecting virtual images in your brain, sorry but you soul are now cloned and connected (1st grade of archon possesion)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46707760


Whatever you do, DON'T listen to this guy. He speaks with the voice of a demon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46699194


I'm sure he's been influenced by people who don't want him to know of the spiritual gifts god as put forth into man. The same as the material influence we are bombarded with everyday.
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[link to www.thejinn.net]
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Get past the evil in this state is very hard more you try the harder it pushes. Always ask for help when attempting this
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I'm very glad you mentioned this. From previous experience reports I've read online, I notice a lot of people mentioning "heavenly" beings that help them. Are these the ones you're mentioning in your post? Does the evil manifestation work both ways in I can also manifest good as well?
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Like little fuzz balls of happiness they are they don't force the issue at all. Deep down at the time i knew i wasn't ready and it instantly knew and put me back.
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I wouldn't even talk about it any further with your family unless they are interested.

If you can't help it then describe everything as if you where aware that you where dreaming instead of Astral Projecting. A different choice of words will take away the occult/witchcraft belief system that the person will have. Everyone has dreams so it's easier to hear than someone astral traveling.

I would test by trying to see what clothes your family members are wearing and keep it to yourself. I haven't been able to prove to myself yet if I can see anything in real-time.

I may exit my body and check my family member clothes and then wake up to check only to find out they aren't even home. The mind will create whatever you expect to happen, it will also create fear and monsters when you feel vulnerable in sleep paralysis. If you feel vulnerable and hope that there are no monsters in your room then guess what? monsters! Once you understand this you can move on and experience the joy of traveling.
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Do you sleep on your back?

I only sleep on my stomach and I've only gotten sleep paralysis once in my life (that I can recall)...

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certain cold medications will help you get there, but be warned you could go places you are not ready for.

I myself enjoyed it until I ventured to far and had to really work to get back.
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I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
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Shuffle a deck of playing cards and place a card (face up and without looking at it) on the top of a bookshelf or cabinet that you could only view from the ceiling....

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
 Quoting: .Kaos


Shuffle a deck of playing cards and place a card (face up and without looking at it) on the top of a bookshelf or cabinet that you could only view from the ceiling....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


That's a great idea! I'll try that.


Also, I sleep on my side all the time. Yesterday, when I felt the sleep paralysis kick in, I turned to my back because I heard it's easier to project that way. It worked, then I saw my arms and had more fear.

I usually take sleeping pills to go to sleep, yesterday I was sick and took some antihistimine that had caffeine in it, I think that had me awake yet my body was tired. I'm not suggesting taking anything to feel the effect, I'm just giving in depth detail of how it happened to me.
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I wouldn't even talk about it any further with your family unless they are interested.

If you can't help it then describe everything as if you where aware that you where dreaming instead of Astral Projecting. A different choice of words will take away the occult/witchcraft belief system that the person will have. Everyone has dreams so it's easier to hear than someone astral traveling.

I would test by trying to see what clothes your family members are wearing and keep it to yourself. I haven't been able to prove to myself yet if I can see anything in real-time.

I may exit my body and check my family member clothes and then wake up to check only to find out they aren't even home. The mind will create whatever you expect to happen, it will also create fear and monsters when you feel vulnerable in sleep paralysis. If you feel vulnerable and hope that there are no monsters in your room then guess what? monsters! Once you understand this you can move on and experience the joy of traveling.
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Yes, I think that's a good idea as well. I'll just say it was a real vivid dream. Also, are you stating that the fear goes away after you've projected? Does sleep paralysis have to happen to have astral projection?
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Ok last night it didn't work AT ALL. I was in bed closed my eyes and started meditating to the shapes and floaters. I tried and tried and tried to fall and asleep and couldn't get past the awareness of those visuals. Then I started feeling nauseous and felt like I was having a panic attack because I couldn't breathe. Hopefully tonight I'll be able to because last night only left me with 4 hours of sleep .
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How did it go?

I ran into the same problem, I got to a retain point, sleep paralysis but low level. Couldn't get farther than that.
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The fear.

Yesterday I had sleep paralysis, which I hadn't had in almost two months. My whole body starts feeling like the feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, MAJOR vibration. I don't know what brings it on. I can't get past the fear. At first it was sight and hearing hallucinations (which I didn't know were hallucinations until I read about them), and now it's just energy. I sense EVIL energy when I get into sleep paralysis. Like something is choking my WHOLE body tight. Well first the first time in my life, I saw my arms OUTSIDE MY BODY!!! I was shocked! I was still in first person view, but my arms looked so transparent and didn't have any color to them. Just a black and white static transparency.

Anyway, I want to try again tonight. I told my family, but I'm starting to suspect they think I'm crazy. I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
 Quoting: .Kaos


Its not evil energy that's all coming from your head/fear.

ITs simply the body shutting down its activity. I've had this happen to me, at first its cool ( I thought ), but I am not you. Just relax into it and think of it as a robot suit that is redirecting resources and shutting down energy to non used parts.
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you make it sound so easy and NO I DONT BELIEVE its the body simply shutting down.
its from something else, or everyone would get it and all the time.

nothing i can tell myself when its happening helps.
nothing.
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I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
 Quoting: .Kaos


Shuffle a deck of playing cards and place a card (face up and without looking at it) on the top of a bookshelf or cabinet that you could only view from the ceiling....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


That's a great idea! I'll try that.


Also, I sleep on my side all the time. Yesterday, when I felt the sleep paralysis kick in, I turned to my back because I heard it's easier to project that way. It worked, then I saw my arms and had more fear.

I usually take sleeping pills to go to sleep, yesterday I was sick and took some antihistimine that had caffeine in it, I think that had me awake yet my body was tired. I'm not suggesting taking anything to feel the effect, I'm just giving in depth detail of how it happened to me.
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it happens to me regardless of what position im in.
ive learned to sleep on my back or side so i dont suffocate.
i cant tell you how many times ive blacked out from lack of oxygen.its easier to deal with than SP thats for sure.
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The fear.

Yesterday I had sleep paralysis, which I hadn't had in almost two months. My whole body starts feeling like the feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, MAJOR vibration. I don't know what brings it on. I can't get past the fear. At first it was sight and hearing hallucinations (which I didn't know were hallucinations until I read about them), and now it's just energy. I sense EVIL energy when I get into sleep paralysis. Like something is choking my WHOLE body tight. Well first the first time in my life, I saw my arms OUTSIDE MY BODY!!! I was shocked! I was still in first person view, but my arms looked so transparent and didn't have any color to them. Just a black and white static transparency.

Anyway, I want to try again tonight. I told my family, but I'm starting to suspect they think I'm crazy. I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
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It may be a few weeks again until you have another episode. I have experienced sleep paralysis for a few years now and whenever something really cool and memorable happens during sleep paralysis that is usually when the sp takes a break.
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I told them to write something down, put it somewhere they know I can't get to, but to tell me where it is. I'm gonna go read it and tell them what it says. I appreciate any advice very much!
 Quoting: .Kaos


Shuffle a deck of playing cards and place a card (face up and without looking at it) on the top of a bookshelf or cabinet that you could only view from the ceiling....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


That's a great idea! I'll try that.


Also, I sleep on my side all the time. Yesterday, when I felt the sleep paralysis kick in, I turned to my back because I heard it's easier to project that way. It worked, then I saw my arms and had more fear.

I usually take sleeping pills to go to sleep, yesterday I was sick and took some antihistimine that had caffeine in it, I think that had me awake yet my body was tired. I'm not suggesting taking anything to feel the effect, I'm just giving in depth detail of how it happened to me.
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oh man! if i could see my astral when SP was happening i would be RELIEVED! i would understand what was happening and could really do some things.:D

from my experiences, i dont equate SP with astral traveling AT ALL.
i am not convinced they are the same thing.
it doesnt HURT to astral travel.

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