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Pope Francis assures atheists: You donít have to believe in God to go to heaven (WHAT???)

 
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He is right, most near death experiences prove that.
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Careful with that hate speech! That's blasphemy to some...

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Cheers Popey

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Something i've known for quite a while.
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You stupid ass fucking christians. By your belief, anyone who is born, lives, and dies without hearing about jebuus, goes to hell and is punished for all eternity by the most loving, pure, angelic god of them all.

And you wonder why we think you stupid - bunch of brainwashed tools. If there was actually a god, you would be doing the devils work by turning people off from god.
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No they won't you clown, they will be judged by their deeds alone and the bible makes this clear. putin
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REVELATION 20
11 And I saw a great white throne,
and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth
and the heaven fled away;
and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great,
stand before God; and the books were opened:
and another book was opened, which is the book of life:
and the dead were judged out of those things
which were written in the books,
according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it;
and death and hell delivered up the dead
which were in them:


AND THEY WERE JUDGED
EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO THEIR WORKS.


14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
THIS IS THE SECOND DEATH.

15 And whosoever was not found written in
the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


There is GOOD NEWS though, that GOOD NEWS is
the GOSPEL.
That God Himself stepped off the throne of Heaven,
became flesh, died for our sins, rose from the dead,
and ascended back into Heaven.
His atoning blood, shed on Calvary can cleanse ANYONE
of all sins, because every sin that ever had or ever would
be committed was nailed to the cross that day.
If you accept Him and what He did for YOU:


REVELATION 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them,
and judgment was given unto them:
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded
for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God,
and which had not worshipped the beast,
neither his image, neither had received his mark
upon their foreheads, or in their hands;
and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again
until the thousand years were finished.
This is the first resurrection.


6 BLESSED AND HOLY IS HE THAT HATH PART
IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION:
on such THE SECOND DEATH hath no power,

but they shall be priests of God and of Christ,
and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15396192
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Atheists don't believe in God. They don't care about anything OF God... Which means they don't believe that heaven exists, nor do they care about going there!

DUH!!
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Francis is certainly anti-christ, but I don't know about THE
false prophet. He is certainly headed for the Lake of Fire though.
He is a perfect example of how apostate the RCC is.

If they would be honest with themselves and compare their
teachings and beliefs with the teachings of Jesus Christ
and the entire scriptures, they would have to abandon the
entire corrupt institution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15396192


the false prophet is not one person, any more than the antichrist is one person... Most of you christians are completely false prophets.
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I'm starting to like this pope.
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Atheists don't believe in God. They don't care about anything OF God... Which means they don't believe that heaven exists, nor do they care about going there!

DUH!!
 Quoting: abeliever* 46293405


I know way more "athiests" than christians that are very godlike.... they just can't stand the propaganda.
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Catholic dogma, the pope is INFALLIBLE on earth.

He IS the church

HE IS GOD

His perfect representation

So you don't bow to that bitch, you ain't catholic.
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It's OK to be Gay now too.
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What a joke, people quoting scripture and christians believing it to be unaltered time immortal. If you knew anything about the early church you would be shocked to find the incorporation of many pagan traditions which have mostly been purged by purist mindsets. The church created the bible, but prevented scripture which contradicted this ideal from being incorporated. The bible is an idealised version of particular people's views.
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You can still go to heaven if you ask god and or jesus for forgiveness, after you die.
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Catholic dogma, the pope is INFALLIBLE on earth.

He IS the church

HE IS GOD

His perfect representation

So you don't bow to that bitch, you ain't catholic.
 Quoting: A.A


hey dont call the pope a bitch, that isnt nice, do you have manners?
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I'm starting to like this pope.
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for 1 more person that likes him, 10 hardcore christians/catholics dislike him
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Re: Pope Francis assures atheists: You donít have to believe in God to go to heaven (WHAT???)
LOL! That demom's playing games with your ignorance. He's right and he knows it because there is more than 1 level of heaven. The Most High is in the highest level, earth is in the lowest (The Most High likens earth to his foot stool).

That Pope knows all about the descendants of the angels and where they go when they die--they're just not going to tell YOU people the truth though.

There are abysses (prisons) I like to call them holding pens, where the wicked go after they become spirits.

All of these galaxies and planets are contained in the lower level of heaven, so those atheists who are descendants of the angels (even though they don't realize it) WILL be going to those prisons, so they DON'T have to believe in the Most High OR keep His laws TO GO TO "HEAVEN" so, technically that Pope didn't lie, he just kind'a did by omission.
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so if I was born in the middle of nowhere and my parents were not religious but I was raised to be kind, generous, thoughtful, gentle...not a school or a church around for hundreds of miles.
When I die I should be admitted into heaven ( if it happens to exist - which I think there is something to the myth BUT!)

I certainly should not be sent to hell simply because I missed the chance of reading the book about how I should be kind, generous etc

Every religion on the planet speaks of the entity from/in the sky that tells you to be of good nature

My great entity from above/the sky that I believe in could care less about if you pray and beg to him. The common worldwide message is about living in the path of righteousness and truth and honor and respect for all beings..it's about being pure of spirit.

Francis is only saying that you don't need to pander and beg to god or jesus to be worthy
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There for awhile I actually liked the guy when he was doing his pray to stop the war in Syria thing; now not so much. Maybe he's sniffed a few too many chemicals? With obuma fitting the 19 descriptors of the antichrist and now this guy being a v.g. fit for the false prophet, I'm pretty sure the fan is going full tilt, and the shit is on the way. Stay thirsty my friends.
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so if I was born in the middle of nowhere and my parents were not religious but I was raised to be kind, generous, thoughtful, gentle...not a school or a church around for hundreds of miles.
When I die I should be admitted into heaven ( if it happens to exist - which I think there is something to the myth BUT!)

I certainly should not be sent to hell simply because I missed the chance of reading the book about how I should be kind, generous etc

Every religion on the planet speaks of the entity from/in the sky that tells you to be of good nature

My great entity from above/the sky that I believe in could care less about if you pray and beg to him. The common worldwide message is about living in the path of righteousness and truth and honor and respect for all beings..it's about being pure of spirit.

Francis is only saying that you don't need to pander and beg to god or jesus to be worthy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47081106


Our best behaviour and Great deeds are like FILTHY RAGS in the sight of a Holy GOD....

GOD told you how to get to haeaven ..1 WAY no other WAY..

Yes people will go into perdition..Nice Kind people in Perdition... GOD is not a RESPECTOR of Human Beings..

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
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How many non-scriptural speeches is this Pope going to feed the world? Sorry Francis but the Bible clearly states that only through the blood of Jesus and accepting his gift of eternal life should anyone enter the kingdom of Heaven. So to say you can enter the kingdom by denying God is false and this guy is falsely prophesying.
 Quoting: tripleh31

Perhaps it is you and not this specific Pope that needs to bone up on what the Scriptures say.

Your statement seems to include only the ones in Re:20:4 as receiving eternal life. Perhaps the Pope can put two verses together that is escaping you and many others.

Re:19:21:
And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,
which sword proceeded out of his mouth:
and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Re:20:5:
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
This is the first resurrection.

Isa:65:12:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Isa:65:13:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Isa:65:14:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
Isa:65:15:
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
Isa:65:16:
That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth;
and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth;
because the former troubles are forgotten,
and because they are hid from mine eyes.
Isa:65:17:
For,
behold,
I create new heavens and a new earth:
and the former shall not be remembered,
nor come into mind.
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so if I was born in the middle of nowhere and my parents were not religious but I was raised to be kind, generous, thoughtful, gentle...not a school or a church around for hundreds of miles.
When I die I should be admitted into heaven ( if it happens to exist - which I think there is something to the myth BUT!)


I certainly should not be sent to hell simply because I missed the chance of reading the book about how I should be kind, generous etc

Every religion on the planet speaks of the entity from/in the sky that tells you to be of good nature

My great entity from above/the sky that I believe in could care less about if you pray and beg to him. The common worldwide message is about living in the path of righteousness and truth and honor and respect for all beings..it's about being pure of spirit.

Francis is only saying that you don't need to pander and beg to god or jesus to be worthy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47081106


Our best behaviour and Great deeds are like FILTHY RAGS in the sight of a Holy GOD....

GOD told you how to get to haeaven ..1 WAY no other WAY..

Yes people will go into perdition..Nice Kind people in Perdition... GOD is not a RESPECTOR of Human Beings..

 Quoting: christian

Nobody goes to heaven (or hell) when they die. The body is split and only the breath of life goes to God. Since you are one of many that could not qualify for being alive during the 1,000 years you would become part of 'the rest' that are resurrected at the Great White Throne. Entering the grave cleanses a person of all sins so the resurrection at the GWT sees a person appear sinless before God.

The difference between the ones alive for the 1,000 years (on this earth) and being alive for the new earth is the first group lives in New Jerusalem and they act as Kings and Priests to the ones that will live outside the city, as described in Isa:65 in the verses after the new earth is mentioned.

Ge:2:7:
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.

Ec:3:20:
All go unto one place;
all are of the dust,
and all turn to dust again.
Ec:12:7:
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Ec:9:10:
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do,
do it with thy might;
for there is no work,
nor device,
nor knowledge,
nor wisdom,
in the grave,
whither thou goest.

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Francis is certainly anti-christ, but I don't know about THE
false prophet. He is certainly headed for the Lake of Fire though.
He is a perfect example of how apostate the RCC is.

If they would be honest with themselves and compare their
teachings and beliefs with the teachings of Jesus Christ
and the entire scriptures, they would have to abandon the
entire corrupt institution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15396192


the false prophet is not one person, any more than the antichrist is one person... Most of you christians are completely false prophets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46142426

Actually that would make them an anti-christ as they teach or follow a different Gospel that the ones taught by the NT writers. The False Prophet is an angelic being that is active only for the 42 months that the Beast from the Pit is given.

The real issue shouldn't be why this Pope is breaking ranks but why all the other Popes were complicit in promoting a false doctrine.

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The false prophet will now take over the Seat in Rome and My Word, just as it was in My Time on earth, will be treated as heresy.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46787129

The name should be changed to stupid prophet if he doesn't know Jerusalem is where a throne on holy ground has to be before you can claim to be connected to God, however Rome would be what the Rothschild Klan would use in their feeble attempt to become Gods.
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Re: Pope Francis assures atheists: You donít have to believe in God to go to heaven (WHAT???)
The Third Secret Of Fatima revealed that the Church would be filled with blasphemers, and the doctrine corrupted by heretics.
What began with Vatican II is now culminating in this demonic Pope's words.

Prepare for the End Times my friens.
Pray as if your soul depended on it....because it does.
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The Third Secret of Fatima actually entailed the vision of an elderly Pope on a destroyed Rome being shot while on his knees by soldiers from a foreign power.

Which indeed could happen on these troubled times.

Pray.

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