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a question for anyone that's Jewish

 
Manu-Koelbren

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Yeah that's plausible , but saying that there's a group of top globalist Jews who have their hands on everything isn't.

We do know however that you're wrong because the modus operandi of the people controlling the world nowadays existed much prior to Rome and the Catholic church even being a thought in someone's mind. Your ancestor Joseph was swindling Egypt just like we're being swindled right now much prior to Rome buddy. And it certainly didn't stop there.
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ofcourse not. the Vatican has their hands on everything, even Israel who is ruled by their mason henchmen.

the nt was a psy op perpetuated by rome. nothing new under the sun.

ofcourse rome follows the ways of old, all empires did.
it does not contradict what I am saying.

rome saw an opportunity by exploiting the jews and their weird religion to fabricate an old pagan Christ as the jewish messiah, and promote that Christ throughout the empire to establish it as the official religion of the empire.
ceaser to pope - mission accomplished.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


I see it totally opposite. Paul saw a chance for revenge against Rome and he used this new martyred Messiah to infiltrate Rome and destroy it from within. The Jewish Christian scribes created a religion that was meant to weaken their enemies. They did not expect however that Christianity was going to become so widespread and that having the Jewish Old Testament as its tenets the Christians would end up being very manipulable by the Jews centuries after. This was not so much an act of genius as a strike of luck though, and it took Jews a long time to realize how to best exploit it, until we come to our current time when the Jews are totally able to manipulate the Christian world as they want (after a good play by them during the 20th century in which they seized a lot of power by pitting many gentile nations against each other).
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I wish you were right about jews running the world.

but im afraid the pope is.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Well I didn't say the kind of Jews YOU sympathize with are running the world, but clearly a faction of Jews of obscure intentions are. It's obvious that Jews are overrepresented in every aspect of the Western world and have been for a long time. Being such a minority Jews have been central and pivotal in every event of significance since a very long time. Jews have been a nation without a state for long and don't be fooled, they kept their ruling class just the same and these folks are the ones who have been working to direct the course of global events and even the direction of world jewry, many of which are quite oblivious or misled about the whole situation.

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And before you say Rome created Christianity, it didn't. Jews created Christianity and Jews took Christianity to Rome. Catholic Rome was a Jewish golem just like many others which came after. The Jesuit conspiracy theory is a smoke screen you guys have been using for a while and of course nobody buys, you should just find a better script.
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you cant prove that, I cant prove my point.

im saying that the pope rules the world, and that Vatican and Christianity were created by roman scholars.
and that the Vatican is using us jews as smoke screen, by 2000 years of blood libles.

it evolved like this.

jews killed messiah
jews steal leven from churches and stab it for they torture jesus.
jews kill Christian boys on Passover and drink their bloods.
jews set fire to cities.
jews are rats liars and roaches.
jews are greedy liars who steal our money.
jews run the world.
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im a jew.

we don't believe in jesus, he is a myth and an idol.

the the OT of the Christian bible is filled with mistranslations and tampering. the NT is just pure bull shit.

we believe in a person messiah, whom had not yet come.

Thread: Absolute undeniable proof Jesus cant be The Messiah.

for more details.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

You do not speak for all Jews. Most, but not all.

I am a Jew.

Jesus was a Jew living among and speaking to Jews. All of his followers were Jews.

I believe in Jesus.
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a jew who turned Christian? or a Christian who decided he is jew by heart?

anyway you follow an idol and most certainly are not jew.
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Jewish family history; father's from Bavaria, mother's from Auschwitz.

I am a Jew.

I believe Yeshua HaMaschiach.
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ofcourse not. the Vatican has their hands on everything, even Israel who is ruled by their mason henchmen.

the nt was a psy op perpetuated by rome. nothing new under the sun.

ofcourse rome follows the ways of old, all empires did.
it does not contradict what I am saying.

rome saw an opportunity by exploiting the jews and their weird religion to fabricate an old pagan Christ as the jewish messiah, and promote that Christ throughout the empire to establish it as the official religion of the empire.
ceaser to pope - mission accomplished.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


I see it totally opposite. Paul saw a chance for revenge against Rome and he used this new martyred Messiah to infiltrate Rome and destroy it from within. The Jewish Christian scribes created a religion that was meant to weaken their enemies. They did not expect however that Christianity was going to become so widespread and that having the Jewish Old Testament as its tenets the Christians would end up being very manipulable by the Jews centuries after. This was not so much an act of genius as a strike of luck though, and it took Jews a long time to realize how to best exploit it, until we come to our current time when the Jews are totally able to manipulate the Christian world as they want (after a good play by them during the 20th century in which they seized a lot of power by pitting many gentile nations against each other).
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


I wish you were right about jews running the world.

but im afraid the pope is.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Well I didn't say the kind of Jews YOU sympathize with are running the world, but clearly a faction of Jews of obscure intentions are. It's obvious that Jews are overrepresented in every aspect of the Western world and have been for a long time. Being such a minority Jews have been central and pivotal in every event of significance since a very long time. Jews have been a nation without a state for long and don't be fooled, they kept their ruling class just the same and these folks are the ones who have been working to direct the course of global events and even the direction of world jewry, many of which are quite oblivious or misled about the whole situation.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


and all these jews (who left their Judaism quite a few generation ago)
are members of secret societies who practice paganism and are traced to the Vatican.

rothschilds for example are the most powerfull agents of the Vatican, for they have great access to the papal bull which is the source of their power.

all roads lead to rome.
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And before you say Rome created Christianity, it didn't. Jews created Christianity and Jews took Christianity to Rome. Catholic Rome was a Jewish golem just like many others which came after. The Jesuit conspiracy theory is a smoke screen you guys have been using for a while and of course nobody buys, you should just find a better script.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


you cant prove that, I cant prove my point.

im saying that the pope rules the world, and that Vatican and Christianity were created by roman scholars.
and that the Vatican is using us jews as smoke screen, by 2000 years of blood libles.

it evolved like this.

jews killed messiah
jews steal leven from churches and stab it for they torture jesus.
jews kill Christian boys on Passover and drink their bloods.
jews set fire to cities.
jews are rats liars and roaches.
jews are greedy liars who steal our money.
jews run the world.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Nah, it evolved like this, Jews killed Jesus, Jews suck childrens blood (probably rumors after someone saw circumsicion rituals), Jews are hoarding our currency in their ghettos (this had a basis on reality), Jews are profiting from usury (true as well). Then what happened is that Jews began to be banished from all Western Christian nations because they were unwanted due to things they had done (such as betraying us to the Muslims when they invaded Spain). Jews however apparently didn't understood the message and returned as soon as they could (after Cromwell, probably a Jew agent killed the King and allowed them back). Why did Jews come back then? Well it's easy when you see that in about 200 years Jews were dominating the banking industry in all of Western Europe.

The truth is that the Catholic church doesn't need Jews as a smoke screen. If the Catholics had as much power as you argue they would rally up the Christian world and in that way they could totally subdue the entire world and rule themselves over it. Obviously the Catholic Church can't do that because they follow someone else's orders, someone who is not interested that Christians rule the world anymore.

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And before you say Rome created Christianity, it didn't. Jews created Christianity and Jews took Christianity to Rome. Catholic Rome was a Jewish golem just like many others which came after. The Jesuit conspiracy theory is a smoke screen you guys have been using for a while and of course nobody buys, you should just find a better script.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


you cant prove that, I cant prove my point.

im saying that the pope rules the world, and that Vatican and Christianity were created by roman scholars.
and that the Vatican is using us jews as smoke screen, by 2000 years of blood libles.

it evolved like this.

jews killed messiah
jews steal leven from churches and stab it for they torture jesus.
jews kill Christian boys on Passover and drink their bloods.
jews set fire to cities.
jews are rats liars and roaches.
jews are greedy liars who steal our money.
jews run the world.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Nah, it evolved like this, Jews killed Jesus, Jews suck childrens blood (probably rumors after someone saw circumsicion rituals), Jews are hoarding our currency in their ghettos (this had a basis on reality), Jews are profiting from usury (true as well). Then what happened is that Jews began to be banished from all Western Christian nations because they were unwanted due to things they had done (such as betraying us to the Muslims when they invaded Spain). Jews however apparently didn't understood the message and as soon as they could (after Cromwell, probably a Jew agent killed the King and allowed them back). Why did Jews come back then? Well it's easy when you see that in about 200 years Jews were dominating the banking industry in all of Western Europe.

The truth is that the Catholic church doesn't need Jews as a smoke screen. If the Catholics had as much power as you argue they would rally up the Christian world and in that way they could totally subdue the entire world and rule themselves over it. Obviously the Catholic Church can't do that because they follow someone else's orders, someone who is not interested that Christians rule the world anymore.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


jews are good with finances. no real jew is a high level banker.

it is argueable weather rotschilds were actually jews, they most certainly don't practice it or anymuch care for it.

rotschilds and all other bankers have no real power without the papal bull
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Jew Wish You Were One Of Us!!!

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you are not jewish.

I don't trust you when you claim jewish heritage, especially when you practice paganism and dark kabala and intermingeling.

just because you have this state as a toy doesn't mean you stand with the jews.

the pope has a great interest in ruling Israel, especially when the masses think its jews who are running Israel.
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And before you say Rome created Christianity, it didn't. Jews created Christianity and Jews took Christianity to Rome. Catholic Rome was a Jewish golem just like many others which came after. The Jesuit conspiracy theory is a smoke screen you guys have been using for a while and of course nobody buys, you should just find a better script.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


you cant prove that, I cant prove my point.

im saying that the pope rules the world, and that Vatican and Christianity were created by roman scholars.
and that the Vatican is using us jews as smoke screen, by 2000 years of blood libles.

it evolved like this.

jews killed messiah
jews steal leven from churches and stab it for they torture jesus.
jews kill Christian boys on Passover and drink their bloods.
jews set fire to cities.
jews are rats liars and roaches.
jews are greedy liars who steal our money.
jews run the world.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Nah, it evolved like this, Jews killed Jesus, Jews suck childrens blood (probably rumors after someone saw circumsicion rituals), Jews are hoarding our currency in their ghettos (this had a basis on reality), Jews are profiting from usury (true as well). Then what happened is that Jews began to be banished from all Western Christian nations because they were unwanted due to things they had done (such as betraying us to the Muslims when they invaded Spain). Jews however apparently didn't understood the message and as soon as they could (after Cromwell, probably a Jew agent killed the King and allowed them back). Why did Jews come back then? Well it's easy when you see that in about 200 years Jews were dominating the banking industry in all of Western Europe.

The truth is that the Catholic church doesn't need Jews as a smoke screen. If the Catholics had as much power as you argue they would rally up the Christian world and in that way they could totally subdue the entire world and rule themselves over it. Obviously the Catholic Church can't do that because they follow someone else's orders, someone who is not interested that Christians rule the world anymore.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


jews are good with finances. no real jew is a high level banker.

it is argueable weather rotschilds were actually jews, they most certainly don't practice it or anymuch care for it.

rotschilds and all other bankers have no real power without the papal bull
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Sorry bro but everyone with two grams of common sense knows that the Catholic church was stripped from its power as well as any symbol of white western power there existed previous to WW2. Nowadays any organization that doesn't bow to Israel and the Shoa can be quickly defamed and furthermore destroyed. Jews have a stranglehold on the Western world and it's ludicrous to think it's the other way around.

You can argue that those Jews aren't "true" Jews (I guess meaning they are not observant, but in that case it'd be quite complex to determine who's really observant and who isn't, much hypocrisy goes on in religion) but you can't argue they're not racially Jewish, meaning of Jewish ancestry.
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manu what im trying to say is that the pope has pretty much 95% of the world under its rule.

the UN has 2 olive branches beneath the globe. 2 olive branches under a symbol of authority always refers to maritime law, ancient roman Uniform Commercial Code to be precise.

international banking and industy sectors all stem from the papal bull in the Vatican cellars.

cann you not see the paganic fingerprint of NT? the religion of the roman empire.

all roads lead to rome.
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god created all humanity. he chose Israel to be his servants.

read my thread, jesus is a myth fabricated by roman scholars
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You are way off.

First, the historians of the day record much of what we read in the Biblical account of Pilate and Jesus on the cross. Rome did not approve of Christians and had no reason to fabricate such a thing.

Christianity even caused the schism of Rome's empire, when Constatinople was founded.

Also, that God chose Israel is true, however this was conditional, and meant to be temporary. The entire temple sacrificial system was to be a type / anti-type of the coming Messiah who would die on the cross fulfilling the old system. God forgives sin not any earthly sacrificial system.
 Quoting: don 29554036


the US does not officially approve of al Qaida but now we know they are al CIAda.

rome created the NT to legitimize their transfer of power from ceasers seat to the "holy" seat in the Vatican.
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There is nothing in the Bible about Roman Catholics.
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God came from the Heavens above earth not from the actual country of Israel. It's right there in the book of Genesis. Yes I believe Jesus is God/Jesus and the Holy Spirit all in one.
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god created all humanity. he chose Israel to be his servants.

read my thread, jesus is a myth fabricated by roman scholars
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Moses spoke of Jesus being the Messiah way before he was born explain that.
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where did moses speak about jesus being the messiah, I would very much like to read that.
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If you read about his prophecies about the Messiah it clearly points out detailed things that Jesus went through.
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you cant prove that, I cant prove my point.

im saying that the pope rules the world, and that Vatican and Christianity were created by roman scholars.
and that the Vatican is using us jews as smoke screen, by 2000 years of blood libles.

it evolved like this.

jews killed messiah
jews steal leven from churches and stab it for they torture jesus.
jews kill Christian boys on Passover and drink their bloods.
jews set fire to cities.
jews are rats liars and roaches.
jews are greedy liars who steal our money.
jews run the world.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Nah, it evolved like this, Jews killed Jesus, Jews suck childrens blood (probably rumors after someone saw circumsicion rituals), Jews are hoarding our currency in their ghettos (this had a basis on reality), Jews are profiting from usury (true as well). Then what happened is that Jews began to be banished from all Western Christian nations because they were unwanted due to things they had done (such as betraying us to the Muslims when they invaded Spain). Jews however apparently didn't understood the message and as soon as they could (after Cromwell, probably a Jew agent killed the King and allowed them back). Why did Jews come back then? Well it's easy when you see that in about 200 years Jews were dominating the banking industry in all of Western Europe.

The truth is that the Catholic church doesn't need Jews as a smoke screen. If the Catholics had as much power as you argue they would rally up the Christian world and in that way they could totally subdue the entire world and rule themselves over it. Obviously the Catholic Church can't do that because they follow someone else's orders, someone who is not interested that Christians rule the world anymore.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


jews are good with finances. no real jew is a high level banker.

it is argueable weather rotschilds were actually jews, they most certainly don't practice it or anymuch care for it.

rotschilds and all other bankers have no real power without the papal bull
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Sorry bro but everyone with two grams of common sense knows that the Catholic church was stripped from its power as well as any symbol of white western power there existed previous to WW2. Nowadays any organization that doesn't bow to Israel and the Shoa can be quickly defamed and furthermore destroyed. Jews have a stranglehold on the Western world and it's ludicrous to think it's the other way around.

You can argue that those Jews aren't "true" Jews (I guess meaning they are not observant, but in that case it'd be quite complex to determine who's really observant and who isn't, much hypocrisy goes on in religion) but you can't argue they're not racially Jewish, meaning of Jewish ancestry.
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maybe ancient jewish ancestry, but rothschilds have intermingled greatly, this is a fact.

no Vatican has not lost power after ww2 the opposite, it gained much more power!

freemasonry illuminati are all vaticano organizations. the governments of the world answer to him. they all participate in his papal bull money and uniform code.
governments receive orders from him.
bankers receive their money from him.
royals bow to him.

(not actual puppet pope)
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god created all humanity. he chose Israel to be his servants.

read my thread, jesus is a myth fabricated by roman scholars
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Moses spoke of Jesus being the Messiah way before he was born explain that.
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where did moses speak about jesus being the messiah, I would very much like to read that.
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If you read about his prophecies about the Messiah it clearly points out detailed things that Jesus went through.
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show me please.
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god created all humanity. he chose Israel to be his servants.

read my thread, jesus is a myth fabricated by roman scholars
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You are way off.

First, the historians of the day record much of what we read in the Biblical account of Pilate and Jesus on the cross. Rome did not approve of Christians and had no reason to fabricate such a thing.

Christianity even caused the schism of Rome's empire, when Constatinople was founded.

Also, that God chose Israel is true, however this was conditional, and meant to be temporary. The entire temple sacrificial system was to be a type / anti-type of the coming Messiah who would die on the cross fulfilling the old system. God forgives sin not any earthly sacrificial system.
 Quoting: don 29554036


the US does not officially approve of al Qaida but now we know they are al CIAda.

rome created the NT to legitimize their transfer of power from ceasers seat to the "holy" seat in the Vatican.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

There is nothing in the Bible about Roman Catholics.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


roman catholics created the nt. they would obviously try to hide, but the fact is that the NT is littered with paganism the kind practiced by the roman empire.

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manu what im trying to say is that the pope has pretty much 95% of the world under its rule.

the UN has 2 olive branches beneath the globe. 2 olive branches under a symbol of authority always refers to maritime law, ancient roman Uniform Commercial Code to be precise.

international banking and industy sectors all stem from the papal bull in the Vatican cellars.

cann you not see the paganic fingerprint of NT? the religion of the roman empire.

all roads lead to rome.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


If the Church has such power as you mention then they're idiots. If I was the Church and has such power I would be totally be manipulating the Western world to gain power over everyone else. The west has enough power to subdue the middle east and Asia and if Westerners were properly propped up they would totally support a war for conquest which would grant the church dominion over the entire globe. So why aren't they wielding this power then if they have it? Why isn't the media pro Christian, brainwashing Christians worldwide to become a faithful army of the Church? THey could totally pull it off if they wanted, if they had such power. Yet the media is actually doing all the opposite, it's undermining white western Christian interests, it's promoting everything besides Catholic agenda. In fact in the media you can freely mock the Church and what it stands for and it's all dandy. However touch a Jew and you're history.

So I ask again, why is the church so secretive if it has so much power as you suggest? Why do they have to play these games of manipulation and do everything so step by step and slowly if they could simply just prop up the game anytime and have enough people to pull it off? The reality is that the people playing this game do it in such manner because they're too few and they are constantly in fear of being discovered ( hence why they constantly change their names, like the Rockefellers, who first went to France from Turkey and then to the United States yet they somehow have a fabricated sounding anglo "surname").

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You do not speak for all Jews. Most, but not all.

I am a Jew.

Jesus was a Jew living among and speaking to Jews. All of his followers were Jews.

I believe in Jesus.
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a jew who turned Christian? or a Christian who decided he is jew by heart?

anyway you follow an idol and most certainly are not jew.
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Jewish family history; father's from Bavaria, mother's from Auschwitz.

I am a Jew.

I believe Yeshua HaMaschiach.
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if you a person of an open mind and seeking heart, I offer you to watch this channel
[link to www.youtube.com]
please watch it, and you be its judge.
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You are not open or seeking what I have found because I was open and seeking.

You are free to keep your Judaism and the faith of your fathers.

You are wrong to attack or impugn me or my faith in Yeshua as He is the very point, purpose and fulfillment of Judaism.

The New Testament is in the Old Testament concealed.
The Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed.
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You are way off.

First, the historians of the day record much of what we read in the Biblical account of Pilate and Jesus on the cross. Rome did not approve of Christians and had no reason to fabricate such a thing.

Christianity even caused the schism of Rome's empire, when Constatinople was founded.

Also, that God chose Israel is true, however this was conditional, and meant to be temporary. The entire temple sacrificial system was to be a type / anti-type of the coming Messiah who would die on the cross fulfilling the old system. God forgives sin not any earthly sacrificial system.
 Quoting: don 29554036


the US does not officially approve of al Qaida but now we know they are al CIAda.

rome created the NT to legitimize their transfer of power from ceasers seat to the "holy" seat in the Vatican.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

There is nothing in the Bible about Roman Catholics.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


roman catholics created the nt. they would obviously try to hide, but the fact is that the NT is littered with paganism the kind practiced by the roman empire.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

Where in the Bible does it speak of Roman Catholics, there is a difference between Romans and Roman Catholics. Just like there is a difference between Hispanics and Hispanics that practice Roman Catholicism.
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manu what im trying to say is that the pope has pretty much 95% of the world under its rule.

the UN has 2 olive branches beneath the globe. 2 olive branches under a symbol of authority always refers to maritime law, ancient roman Uniform Commercial Code to be precise.

international banking and industy sectors all stem from the papal bull in the Vatican cellars.

cann you not see the paganic fingerprint of NT? the religion of the roman empire.

all roads lead to rome.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


If the Church has such power as you mention then they're idiots. If I was the Church and has such power I would be totally be manipulating the Western world to gain power over everyone else. The west has enough power to subdue the middle east and Asia and if Westerners were properly propped up they would totally support a war for conquest which would grant the church dominion over the entire globe. So why aren't they wielding this power then if they have it? Why isn't the media pro Christian, brainwashing Christians worldwide to become a faithful army of the Church? THey could totally pull it off if they wanted, if they had such power. Yet the media is actually doing all the opposite, it's undermining white western Christian interests, it's promoting everything besides Catholic agenda. In fact in the media you can freely mock the Church and what it stands for and it's all dandy. However touch a Jew and you're history.

So I ask again, why is the church so secretive if it has so much power as you suggest? Why do they have to play these games of manipulation and do everything so step by step and slowly if they could simply just prop up the game anytime and have enough people to pull it off? The reality is that the people playing this game do it in such manner because they're too few and they are constantly in fear of being discovered ( hence why they constantly change their names, like the Rockefellers, who first went to France from Turkey and then to the United States yet they somehow have a fabricated sounding anglo "surname").
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middle east? lol they own it!

they are putting down rebellions, please I am trying to get you to image the Vatican as an undercover empire, which they clearly are!

ever thought why maffias were all Italian? they are the ptb! the war is not against the rulers of the middle east, but against the people of the whole world! cant you see? the war is on all fronts!

the war on tv... that is just good theatre, the other war is for your mind.

hiding behind jesus... and blaming the jews.
the western nations (and really eastern too) are ruled by the global secret societies network, which all trace to the Vatican.

it evolves like this. rome rules Europe, rome becomes the Vatican Vatican places kings on Europe, who use jesus bloodline to somehow rule, these kings form secret societies around them, these secret societies are now the worlds governments.
all was financed by the papal bull.
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a jew who turned Christian? or a Christian who decided he is jew by heart?

anyway you follow an idol and most certainly are not jew.
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Jewish family history; father's from Bavaria, mother's from Auschwitz.

I am a Jew.

I believe Yeshua HaMaschiach.
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if you a person of an open mind and seeking heart, I offer you to watch this channel
[link to www.youtube.com]
please watch it, and you be its judge.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


You are not open or seeking what I have found because I was open and seeking.

You are free to keep your Judaism and the faith of your fathers.

You are wrong to attack or impugn me or my faith in Yeshua as He is the very point, purpose and fulfillment of Judaism.

The New Testament is in the Old Testament concealed.
The Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed.
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I was once like you, I believed in jesus honest!
but then I decided to see if jesus really is all those fulfillments. the channel I provided does that process, you have clearly not given it a chance.
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manu what im trying to say is that the pope has pretty much 95% of the world under its rule.

the UN has 2 olive branches beneath the globe. 2 olive branches under a symbol of authority always refers to maritime law, ancient roman Uniform Commercial Code to be precise.

international banking and industy sectors all stem from the papal bull in the Vatican cellars.

cann you not see the paganic fingerprint of NT? the religion of the roman empire.

all roads lead to rome.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


If the Church has such power as you mention then they're idiots. If I was the Church and has such power I would be totally be manipulating the Western world to gain power over everyone else. The west has enough power to subdue the middle east and Asia and if Westerners were properly propped up they would totally support a war for conquest which would grant the church dominion over the entire globe. So why aren't they wielding this power then if they have it? Why isn't the media pro Christian, brainwashing Christians worldwide to become a faithful army of the Church? THey could totally pull it off if they wanted, if they had such power. Yet the media is actually doing all the opposite, it's undermining white western Christian interests, it's promoting everything besides Catholic agenda. In fact in the media you can freely mock the Church and what it stands for and it's all dandy. However touch a Jew and you're history.

So I ask again, why is the church so secretive if it has so much power as you suggest? Why do they have to play these games of manipulation and do everything so step by step and slowly if they could simply just prop up the game anytime and have enough people to pull it off? The reality is that the people playing this game do it in such manner because they're too few and they are constantly in fear of being discovered ( hence why they constantly change their names, like the Rockefellers, who first went to France from Turkey and then to the United States yet they somehow have a fabricated sounding anglo "surname").
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


middle east? lol they own it!

they are putting down rebellions, please I am trying to get you to image the Vatican as an undercover empire, which they clearly are!

ever thought why maffias were all Italian? they are the ptb! the war is not against the rulers of the middle east, but against the people of the whole world! cant you see? the war is on all fronts!

the war on tv... that is just good theatre, the other war is for your mind.

hiding behind jesus... and blaming the jews.
the western nations (and really eastern too) are ruled by the global secret societies network, which all trace to the Vatican.

it evolves like this. rome rules Europe, rome becomes the Vatican Vatican places kings on Europe, who use jesus bloodline to somehow rule, these kings form secret societies around them, these secret societies are now the worlds governments.
all was financed by the papal bull.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


I am trying to explain you that the vatican doesn't need to be an undercover empire, they could be an open empire and if they were allowed they could gather enough people to pull it off. The only ones who have always needed to be undercover, and have historically done it (and this is fact), are the Jews. They need to be undercover because if they tried to openly rule they'd be butchered by all fronts. If the Christian west wanted to be an open empire they could pull it off and the rest would have to put their tail between their legs.

You know that your ludicrous theory just doesn't hold water, you ain't fooling anyone buddy Wink

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the US does not officially approve of al Qaida but now we know they are al CIAda.

rome created the NT to legitimize their transfer of power from ceasers seat to the "holy" seat in the Vatican.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

There is nothing in the Bible about Roman Catholics.
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roman catholics created the nt. they would obviously try to hide, but the fact is that the NT is littered with paganism the kind practiced by the roman empire.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

Where in the Bible does it speak of Roman Catholics, there is a difference between Romans and Roman Catholics. Just like there is a difference between Hispanics and Hispanics that practice Roman Catholicism.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


not bible, new testament, it is filled with paganism which was the religion of rome, until it was changed to jesus paganism, and when you go walking around the Vatican, you can clearly see its filled with jesus doing pagan things.

not fulfilling jewish things.
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There is nothing in the Bible about Roman Catholics.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


roman catholics created the nt. they would obviously try to hide, but the fact is that the NT is littered with paganism the kind practiced by the roman empire.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

Where in the Bible does it speak of Roman Catholics, there is a difference between Romans and Roman Catholics. Just like there is a difference between Hispanics and Hispanics that practice Roman Catholicism.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


not bible, new testament, it is filled with paganism which was the religion of rome, until it was changed to jesus paganism, and when you go walking around the Vatican, you can clearly see its filled with jesus doing pagan things.

not fulfilling jewish things.
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The New Testament is part of the Bible you will see more Bibles with Old and New than you will the Torah.
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manu what im trying to say is that the pope has pretty much 95% of the world under its rule.

the UN has 2 olive branches beneath the globe. 2 olive branches under a symbol of authority always refers to maritime law, ancient roman Uniform Commercial Code to be precise.

international banking and industy sectors all stem from the papal bull in the Vatican cellars.

cann you not see the paganic fingerprint of NT? the religion of the roman empire.

all roads lead to rome.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


If the Church has such power as you mention then they're idiots. If I was the Church and has such power I would be totally be manipulating the Western world to gain power over everyone else. The west has enough power to subdue the middle east and Asia and if Westerners were properly propped up they would totally support a war for conquest which would grant the church dominion over the entire globe. So why aren't they wielding this power then if they have it? Why isn't the media pro Christian, brainwashing Christians worldwide to become a faithful army of the Church? THey could totally pull it off if they wanted, if they had such power. Yet the media is actually doing all the opposite, it's undermining white western Christian interests, it's promoting everything besides Catholic agenda. In fact in the media you can freely mock the Church and what it stands for and it's all dandy. However touch a Jew and you're history.

So I ask again, why is the church so secretive if it has so much power as you suggest? Why do they have to play these games of manipulation and do everything so step by step and slowly if they could simply just prop up the game anytime and have enough people to pull it off? The reality is that the people playing this game do it in such manner because they're too few and they are constantly in fear of being discovered ( hence why they constantly change their names, like the Rockefellers, who first went to France from Turkey and then to the United States yet they somehow have a fabricated sounding anglo "surname").
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


middle east? lol they own it!

they are putting down rebellions, please I am trying to get you to image the Vatican as an undercover empire, which they clearly are!

ever thought why maffias were all Italian? they are the ptb! the war is not against the rulers of the middle east, but against the people of the whole world! cant you see? the war is on all fronts!

the war on tv... that is just good theatre, the other war is for your mind.

hiding behind jesus... and blaming the jews.
the western nations (and really eastern too) are ruled by the global secret societies network, which all trace to the Vatican.

it evolves like this. rome rules Europe, rome becomes the Vatican Vatican places kings on Europe, who use jesus bloodline to somehow rule, these kings form secret societies around them, these secret societies are now the worlds governments.
all was financed by the papal bull.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


I am trying to explain you that the vatican doesn't need to be an undercover empire, they could be an open empire and if they were allowed they could gather enough people to pull it off. The only ones who have always needed to be undercover, and have historically done it (and this is fact), are the Jews. They need to be undercover because if they tried to openly rule they'd be butchered by all fronts. If the Christian west wanted to be an open empire they could pull it off and the rest would have to put their tail between their legs.

You know that your ludicrous theory just doesn't hold water, you ain't fooling anyone buddy Wink
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jews were never undercover, (fingers pointing mouth saying "look its the jews")

perhaps you think we are undercover because you think Talmud and jewish littreture are scripts of how to take over the world.
the Talmud is out there, westreners have completely studied the jewish library, and then burned it, and then constructed paganic magick based on the jewish kabbalah.
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Jewish family history; father's from Bavaria, mother's from Auschwitz.

I am a Jew.

I believe Yeshua HaMaschiach.
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if you a person of an open mind and seeking heart, I offer you to watch this channel
[link to www.youtube.com]
please watch it, and you be its judge.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


You are not open or seeking what I have found because I was open and seeking.

You are free to keep your Judaism and the faith of your fathers.

You are wrong to attack or impugn me or my faith in Yeshua as He is the very point, purpose and fulfillment of Judaism.

The New Testament is in the Old Testament concealed.
The Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed.
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I was once like you, I believed in jesus honest!
but then I decided to see if jesus really is all those fulfillments. the channel I provided does that process, you have clearly not given it a chance.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


You are barely more than a child. I am older than your father.
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roman catholics created the nt. they would obviously try to hide, but the fact is that the NT is littered with paganism the kind practiced by the roman empire.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

Where in the Bible does it speak of Roman Catholics, there is a difference between Romans and Roman Catholics. Just like there is a difference between Hispanics and Hispanics that practice Roman Catholicism.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


not bible, new testament, it is filled with paganism which was the religion of rome, until it was changed to jesus paganism, and when you go walking around the Vatican, you can clearly see its filled with jesus doing pagan things.

not fulfilling jewish things.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

The New Testament is part of the Bible you will see more Bibles with Old and New than you will the Torah.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


yes, the Christian bible is made up of mistranslated jewish OT and a fabricated NT.

the jewish bible is the original Hebrew text OT or as we call it Tanach.
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If the Church has such power as you mention then they're idiots. If I was the Church and has such power I would be totally be manipulating the Western world to gain power over everyone else. The west has enough power to subdue the middle east and Asia and if Westerners were properly propped up they would totally support a war for conquest which would grant the church dominion over the entire globe. So why aren't they wielding this power then if they have it? Why isn't the media pro Christian, brainwashing Christians worldwide to become a faithful army of the Church? THey could totally pull it off if they wanted, if they had such power. Yet the media is actually doing all the opposite, it's undermining white western Christian interests, it's promoting everything besides Catholic agenda. In fact in the media you can freely mock the Church and what it stands for and it's all dandy. However touch a Jew and you're history.

So I ask again, why is the church so secretive if it has so much power as you suggest? Why do they have to play these games of manipulation and do everything so step by step and slowly if they could simply just prop up the game anytime and have enough people to pull it off? The reality is that the people playing this game do it in such manner because they're too few and they are constantly in fear of being discovered ( hence why they constantly change their names, like the Rockefellers, who first went to France from Turkey and then to the United States yet they somehow have a fabricated sounding anglo "surname").
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


middle east? lol they own it!

they are putting down rebellions, please I am trying to get you to image the Vatican as an undercover empire, which they clearly are!

ever thought why maffias were all Italian? they are the ptb! the war is not against the rulers of the middle east, but against the people of the whole world! cant you see? the war is on all fronts!

the war on tv... that is just good theatre, the other war is for your mind.

hiding behind jesus... and blaming the jews.
the western nations (and really eastern too) are ruled by the global secret societies network, which all trace to the Vatican.

it evolves like this. rome rules Europe, rome becomes the Vatican Vatican places kings on Europe, who use jesus bloodline to somehow rule, these kings form secret societies around them, these secret societies are now the worlds governments.
all was financed by the papal bull.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


I am trying to explain you that the vatican doesn't need to be an undercover empire, they could be an open empire and if they were allowed they could gather enough people to pull it off. The only ones who have always needed to be undercover, and have historically done it (and this is fact), are the Jews. They need to be undercover because if they tried to openly rule they'd be butchered by all fronts. If the Christian west wanted to be an open empire they could pull it off and the rest would have to put their tail between their legs.

You know that your ludicrous theory just doesn't hold water, you ain't fooling anyone buddy Wink
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


jews were never undercover, (fingers pointing mouth saying "look its the jews")

perhaps you think we are undercover because you think Talmud and jewish littreture are scripts of how to take over the world.
the Talmud is out there, westreners have completely studied the jewish library, and then burned it, and then constructed paganic magick based on the jewish kabbalah.
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It's funny that you say that Jews were never undercover because Milton Friedman himself used to explain how Jews due to being persecuted began to secretly circumvent the laws of their host nations to then make profit with which they could manipulate kings to do their bidding. This is exactly the same MO they've always used, even as far back as Egypt. I think I will take Friedman's word before yours if you don't mind.
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Where in the Bible does it speak of Roman Catholics, there is a difference between Romans and Roman Catholics. Just like there is a difference between Hispanics and Hispanics that practice Roman Catholicism.
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not bible, new testament, it is filled with paganism which was the religion of rome, until it was changed to jesus paganism, and when you go walking around the Vatican, you can clearly see its filled with jesus doing pagan things.

not fulfilling jewish things.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

The New Testament is part of the Bible you will see more Bibles with Old and New than you will the Torah.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


yes, the Christian bible is made up of mistranslated jewish OT and a fabricated NT.

the jewish bible is the original Hebrew text OT or as we call it Tanach.
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How do you know it's not fabricated some itself? Can you read Hewbrew at all and go to wear the old scrolls are that first talk about the OT?
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OK, I will try to answer your questions. There is no person who is the Messiah. The Messiah is a time period when there is peace throughout the world. Elijah is supposed to come down from Heaven to Earth to herald the Messiah but he is not the Messiah, just the announcer. Elijah is known as the only person to have ascended to Heaven w/o first dying. At Passover, we set an extra cup of wine on the table for Elijah in the hope that he will come down from Heaven and visit every Seder and announce the coming of the Messiah.

The Torah scroll contains just the first five books of what Christians refer to as the Old Testatment, which is our entire Bible. We don't believe or use the New Testament.
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So tell me... Mom. Why aren't you still sacrificing lambs, to cover your sins?

And why don't you even understand the symbolism that your sacrificial system used? Especially the symbolism pointing forward to the REAL sacrificial Lamb of God? AKA Yeshua.
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OK, I will try to answer your questions. There is no person who is the Messiah. The Messiah is a time period when there is peace throughout the world. Elijah is supposed to come down from Heaven to Earth to herald the Messiah but he is not the Messiah, just the announcer. Elijah is known as the only person to have ascended to Heaven w/o first dying. At Passover, we set an extra cup of wine on the table for Elijah in the hope that he will come down from Heaven and visit every Seder and announce the coming of the Messiah.

The Torah scroll contains just the first five books of what Christians refer to as the Old Testatment, which is our entire Bible. We don't believe or use the New Testament.
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You DO realize that you are bound by HUNDREDS of laws, ordinances, and regulations... Don't you... Mom?

My guess is that you ae keeping VERY few of them. And you are not even sacrificing lambs to cover your sins.

The way I see it, Mom, when you stand before God, without Christ, you are totally and completely screwed.

Still think your tradition is superior to the Way, the Truth, and the Life?

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