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a question for anyone that's Jewish

 
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Regardless of what everyone's beliefs are, we all have different opinions about how we practice them. I find it interesting and love debates if someone can talk like an adult and not get their panties in a knot. I still don't have an answer who they think is going to come back. God who is their God they claim it's as the Christians call Jesus yet they don't believe in Jesus being Christ our God.
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not bible, new testament, it is filled with paganism which was the religion of rome, until it was changed to jesus paganism, and when you go walking around the Vatican, you can clearly see its filled with jesus doing pagan things.

not fulfilling jewish things.
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The New Testament is part of the Bible you will see more Bibles with Old and New than you will the Torah.
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yes, the Christian bible is made up of mistranslated jewish OT and a fabricated NT.

the jewish bible is the original Hebrew text OT or as we call it Tanach.
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How do you know it's not fabricated some itself? Can you read Hewbrew at all and go to wear the old scrolls are that first talk about the OT?
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if the OT is fabricated, then jesus must surely be fabricated also.

and yes I can read Hebrew and have the jewish Hebrew bible right infront of me, which the dead sea scrolls prove to be authentic.
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The New Testament is part of the Bible you will see more Bibles with Old and New than you will the Torah.
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yes, the Christian bible is made up of mistranslated jewish OT and a fabricated NT.

the jewish bible is the original Hebrew text OT or as we call it Tanach.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

How do you know it's not fabricated some itself? Can you read Hewbrew at all and go to wear the old scrolls are that first talk about the OT?
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


if the OT is fabricated, then jesus must surely be fabricated also.

and yes I can read Hebrew and have the jewish Hebrew bible right infront of me, which the dead sea scrolls prove to be authentic.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Ok so then anything after the first 5 chapters is not real therefore all the prophecies about doom and gloom are false and not real. Then why is it happening all around us? Animals and bees dying off, natural disasters are happening all around us everyday especially the earthquakes. You have countless people claiming to be the Messiah or being prophetic and saying the end was near and all have failed. All this was talked about in the Old and New Testament.
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I am trying to explain you that the vatican doesn't need to be an undercover empire, they could be an open empire and if they were allowed they could gather enough people to pull it off. The only ones who have always needed to be undercover, and have historically done it (and this is fact), are the Jews. They need to be undercover because if they tried to openly rule they'd be butchered by all fronts. If the Christian west wanted to be an open empire they could pull it off and the rest would have to put their tail between their legs.

You know that your ludicrous theory just doesn't hold water, you ain't fooling anyone buddy Wink
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jews were never undercover, (fingers pointing mouth saying "look its the jews")

perhaps you think we are undercover because you think Talmud and jewish littreture are scripts of how to take over the world.
the Talmud is out there, westreners have completely studied the jewish library, and then burned it, and then constructed paganic magick based on the jewish kabbalah.
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It's funny that you say that Jews were never undercover because Milton Friedman himself used to explain how Jews due to being persecuted began to secretly circumvent the laws of their host nations to then make profit with which they could manipulate kings to do their bidding. This is exactly the same MO they've always used, even as far back as Egypt. I think I will take Friedman's word before yours if you don't mind.
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mmm if jews are persecuted how exactly were they able to change the laws of nations and control kings?

jews retreated to ghettos and rural communities were they could be left at peace.

they were nomads and farmers, not scheming politicians.

it was only during the industrial revolution that jews started to gain power (or share in the popes pie) they were succesfull as honest businessman thanks to their brightness, and those who joined the organizations that were promoted to positions of power, but they are not dictated by rabbis, but by the pope.
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Dude you're deluded, Jews were in the banking sector in Europe when it began in Italy with the Medicis. You really gotta own up to some of your true responsibility in matters. I mean seriously, nomads and farmers? Dude, you haven't realized you're not talking to some ignorant simpleton by now? I am just not going to buy that crap bro. When the Moors invaded Spain the Jews got themselves a nice piece of power in Europe until they were all kicked the fuck out. They weren't trying to be left in peace, they were conspiring for power, just as they were before in Rome, and then in Egypt, Babylon, Assyria and back even in Sumer, and probably they were at it even before the flood. I mean seriously dude, save the BS for someone else.

Nomads and farmers wanting to be left in peace lmao
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yes, the Christian bible is made up of mistranslated jewish OT and a fabricated NT.

the jewish bible is the original Hebrew text OT or as we call it Tanach.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

How do you know it's not fabricated some itself? Can you read Hewbrew at all and go to wear the old scrolls are that first talk about the OT?
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


if the OT is fabricated, then jesus must surely be fabricated also.

and yes I can read Hebrew and have the jewish Hebrew bible right infront of me, which the dead sea scrolls prove to be authentic.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Ok so then anything after the first 5 chapters is not real therefore all the prophecies about doom and gloom are false and not real. Then why is it happening all around us? Animals and bees dying off, natural disasters are happening all around us everyday especially the earthquakes. You have countless people claiming to be the Messiah or being prophetic and saying the end was near and all have failed. All this was talked about in the Old and New Testament.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


that's because the OT truly is the word of god, all the prophecies jesus made can be found in the OT. he made one authentic prophecy - and failed.
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How do you know it's not fabricated some itself? Can you read Hewbrew at all and go to wear the old scrolls are that first talk about the OT?
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


if the OT is fabricated, then jesus must surely be fabricated also.

and yes I can read Hebrew and have the jewish Hebrew bible right infront of me, which the dead sea scrolls prove to be authentic.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Ok so then anything after the first 5 chapters is not real therefore all the prophecies about doom and gloom are false and not real. Then why is it happening all around us? Animals and bees dying off, natural disasters are happening all around us everyday especially the earthquakes. You have countless people claiming to be the Messiah or being prophetic and saying the end was near and all have failed. All this was talked about in the Old and New Testament.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


that's because the OT truly is the word of god, all the prophecies jesus made can be found in the OT. he made one authentic prophecy - and failed.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


That's true, Jesus said the end would come before his generation ended. Unless he meant the end of Judah's rule over Jerusalem (which I don't think he meant) then he failed big time.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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How do you know it's not fabricated some itself? Can you read Hewbrew at all and go to wear the old scrolls are that first talk about the OT?
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


if the OT is fabricated, then jesus must surely be fabricated also.

and yes I can read Hebrew and have the jewish Hebrew bible right infront of me, which the dead sea scrolls prove to be authentic.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Ok so then anything after the first 5 chapters is not real therefore all the prophecies about doom and gloom are false and not real. Then why is it happening all around us? Animals and bees dying off, natural disasters are happening all around us everyday especially the earthquakes. You have countless people claiming to be the Messiah or being prophetic and saying the end was near and all have failed. All this was talked about in the Old and New Testament.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


that's because the OT truly is the word of god, all the prophecies jesus made can be found in the OT. he made one authentic prophecy - and failed.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Oh so Jesus is real then! You said he wasn't...how can he be fake if he got one prophecy right?!!!
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jews were never undercover, (fingers pointing mouth saying "look its the jews")

perhaps you think we are undercover because you think Talmud and jewish littreture are scripts of how to take over the world.
the Talmud is out there, westreners have completely studied the jewish library, and then burned it, and then constructed paganic magick based on the jewish kabbalah.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


It's funny that you say that Jews were never undercover because Milton Friedman himself used to explain how Jews due to being persecuted began to secretly circumvent the laws of their host nations to then make profit with which they could manipulate kings to do their bidding. This is exactly the same MO they've always used, even as far back as Egypt. I think I will take Friedman's word before yours if you don't mind.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


mmm if jews are persecuted how exactly were they able to change the laws of nations and control kings?

jews retreated to ghettos and rural communities were they could be left at peace.

they were nomads and farmers, not scheming politicians.

it was only during the industrial revolution that jews started to gain power (or share in the popes pie) they were succesfull as honest businessman thanks to their brightness, and those who joined the organizations that were promoted to positions of power, but they are not dictated by rabbis, but by the pope.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Dude you're deluded, Jews were in the banking sector in Europe when it began in Italy with the Medicis. You really gotta own up to some of your true responsibility in matters. I mean seriously, nomads and farmers? Dude, you haven't realized you're not talking to some ignorant simpleton by now? I am just not going to buy that crap bro. When the Moors invaded Spain the Jews got themselves a nice piece of power in Europe until they were all kicked the fuck out. They weren't trying to be left in peace, they were conspiring for power, just as they were before in Rome, and then in Egypt, Babylon, Assyria and back even in Sumer, and probably they were at it even before the flood. I mean seriously dude, save the BS for someone else.

Nomads and farmers wanting to be left in peace lmao
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yep dude! farmers and nomads!

some jews were scholars, and achieved comfort in the courts of kings, working for them.
even those jewish bankers who were banking among none jewish bankers were all using papal bull money!

I know, none collaborating jews are a threat to the system.
collaborating jews work for the pope system, not jewish system.
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if the OT is fabricated, then jesus must surely be fabricated also.

and yes I can read Hebrew and have the jewish Hebrew bible right infront of me, which the dead sea scrolls prove to be authentic.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Ok so then anything after the first 5 chapters is not real therefore all the prophecies about doom and gloom are false and not real. Then why is it happening all around us? Animals and bees dying off, natural disasters are happening all around us everyday especially the earthquakes. You have countless people claiming to be the Messiah or being prophetic and saying the end was near and all have failed. All this was talked about in the Old and New Testament.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


that's because the OT truly is the word of god, all the prophecies jesus made can be found in the OT. he made one authentic prophecy - and failed.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Oh so Jesus is real then! You said he wasn't...how can he be fake if he got one prophecy right?!!!
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


no, the ot is real, jesus is not, just because he mention prophecies from the ot doesn't mean he is real.
the ot denies jesus.
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Ok so then anything after the first 5 chapters is not real therefore all the prophecies about doom and gloom are false and not real. Then why is it happening all around us? Animals and bees dying off, natural disasters are happening all around us everyday especially the earthquakes. You have countless people claiming to be the Messiah or being prophetic and saying the end was near and all have failed. All this was talked about in the Old and New Testament.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


that's because the OT truly is the word of god, all the prophecies jesus made can be found in the OT. he made one authentic prophecy - and failed.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Oh so Jesus is real then! You said he wasn't...how can he be fake if he got one prophecy right?!!!
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


no, the ot is real, jesus is not, just because he mention prophecies from the ot doesn't mean he is real.
the ot denies jesus.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

Show me in the OT where it denies Jesus isn't real, because the OT was written well before he was born. Holy Trinity, all 3 are the same being.
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It's funny that you say that Jews were never undercover because Milton Friedman himself used to explain how Jews due to being persecuted began to secretly circumvent the laws of their host nations to then make profit with which they could manipulate kings to do their bidding. This is exactly the same MO they've always used, even as far back as Egypt. I think I will take Friedman's word before yours if you don't mind.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


mmm if jews are persecuted how exactly were they able to change the laws of nations and control kings?

jews retreated to ghettos and rural communities were they could be left at peace.

they were nomads and farmers, not scheming politicians.

it was only during the industrial revolution that jews started to gain power (or share in the popes pie) they were succesfull as honest businessman thanks to their brightness, and those who joined the organizations that were promoted to positions of power, but they are not dictated by rabbis, but by the pope.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Dude you're deluded, Jews were in the banking sector in Europe when it began in Italy with the Medicis. You really gotta own up to some of your true responsibility in matters. I mean seriously, nomads and farmers? Dude, you haven't realized you're not talking to some ignorant simpleton by now? I am just not going to buy that crap bro. When the Moors invaded Spain the Jews got themselves a nice piece of power in Europe until they were all kicked the fuck out. They weren't trying to be left in peace, they were conspiring for power, just as they were before in Rome, and then in Egypt, Babylon, Assyria and back even in Sumer, and probably they were at it even before the flood. I mean seriously dude, save the BS for someone else.

Nomads and farmers wanting to be left in peace lmao
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


yep dude! farmers and nomads!

some jews were scholars, and achieved comfort in the courts of kings, working for them.
even those jewish bankers who were banking among none jewish bankers were all using papal bull money!

I know, none collaborating jews are a threat to the system.
collaborating jews work for the pope system, not jewish system.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


The Pope and his church are nothing but a bunch of pedophiles who can easily be blackmailed. They are content doing their jobs and being given the chance to indulge in their sinful vices. Were the church to really try to use its power for anything else other than the official agenda they would be ripped to pieces by the media in no time. Really your confabulations regarding the Church are nothing short of delusional. It's funny people like you would mock Jewish conspiracy theories that have tons of research and validation behind them and which are also backed by logical conclusions that can be corroborated easily by anyone and yet try to pass this ludicrous "evil pope" silliness.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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that's because the OT truly is the word of god, all the prophecies jesus made can be found in the OT. he made one authentic prophecy - and failed.
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Oh so Jesus is real then! You said he wasn't...how can he be fake if he got one prophecy right?!!!
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


no, the ot is real, jesus is not, just because he mention prophecies from the ot doesn't mean he is real.
the ot denies jesus.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

Show me in the OT where it denies Jesus isn't real, because the OT was written well before he was born. Holy Trinity, all 3 are the same being.
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Where they say he is not real is what I meant
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mmm if jews are persecuted how exactly were they able to change the laws of nations and control kings?

jews retreated to ghettos and rural communities were they could be left at peace.

they were nomads and farmers, not scheming politicians.

it was only during the industrial revolution that jews started to gain power (or share in the popes pie) they were succesfull as honest businessman thanks to their brightness, and those who joined the organizations that were promoted to positions of power, but they are not dictated by rabbis, but by the pope.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Dude you're deluded, Jews were in the banking sector in Europe when it began in Italy with the Medicis. You really gotta own up to some of your true responsibility in matters. I mean seriously, nomads and farmers? Dude, you haven't realized you're not talking to some ignorant simpleton by now? I am just not going to buy that crap bro. When the Moors invaded Spain the Jews got themselves a nice piece of power in Europe until they were all kicked the fuck out. They weren't trying to be left in peace, they were conspiring for power, just as they were before in Rome, and then in Egypt, Babylon, Assyria and back even in Sumer, and probably they were at it even before the flood. I mean seriously dude, save the BS for someone else.

Nomads and farmers wanting to be left in peace lmao
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


yep dude! farmers and nomads!

some jews were scholars, and achieved comfort in the courts of kings, working for them.
even those jewish bankers who were banking among none jewish bankers were all using papal bull money!

I know, none collaborating jews are a threat to the system.
collaborating jews work for the pope system, not jewish system.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


The Pope and his church are nothing but a bunch of pedophiles who can easily be blackmailed. They are content doing their jobs and being given the chance to indulge in their sinful vices. Were the church to really try to use its power for anything else other than the official agenda they would be ripped to pieces by the media in no time. Really your confabulations regarding the Church are nothing short of delusional. It's funny people like you would mock Jewish conspiracy theories that have tons of research and validation behind them and which are also backed by logical conclusions that can be corroborated easily by anyone and yet try to pass this ludicrous "evil pope" silliness.
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YES yes yes!
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that's because the OT truly is the word of god, all the prophecies jesus made can be found in the OT. he made one authentic prophecy - and failed.
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Oh so Jesus is real then! You said he wasn't...how can he be fake if he got one prophecy right?!!!
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


no, the ot is real, jesus is not, just because he mention prophecies from the ot doesn't mean he is real.
the ot denies jesus.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

Show me in the OT where it denies Jesus isn't real, because the OT was written well before he was born. Holy Trinity, all 3 are the same being.
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mmm its hard, because the ot does not say, "look there is going to be a jesus and he is false"

but the ot gives clear indication for what messiah will do, dying for our sins is not one of them.
infact, jesus has not done anything ot says messiah will do.
you clearly don't know the ot very good, perhaps few verses that have to words pierced in them.
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Oh so Jesus is real then! You said he wasn't...how can he be fake if he got one prophecy right?!!!
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no, the ot is real, jesus is not, just because he mention prophecies from the ot doesn't mean he is real.
the ot denies jesus.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

Show me in the OT where it denies Jesus isn't real, because the OT was written well before he was born. Holy Trinity, all 3 are the same being.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


mmm its hard, because the ot does not say, "look there is going to be a jesus and he is false"

but the ot gives clear indication for what messiah will do, dying for our sins is not one of them.
infact, jesus has not done anything ot says messiah will do.
you clearly don't know the ot very good, perhaps few verses that have to words pierced in them.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

You're right I am still learning but as you say my OT Bible is not what yours is. Another woman on here that practices Judaism states there is no messiah it is a new era. Yet you claim it's a person.
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no, the ot is real, jesus is not, just because he mention prophecies from the ot doesn't mean he is real.
the ot denies jesus.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

Show me in the OT where it denies Jesus isn't real, because the OT was written well before he was born. Holy Trinity, all 3 are the same being.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


mmm its hard, because the ot does not say, "look there is going to be a jesus and he is false"

but the ot gives clear indication for what messiah will do, dying for our sins is not one of them.
infact, jesus has not done anything ot says messiah will do.
you clearly don't know the ot very good, perhaps few verses that have to words pierced in them.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

You're right I am still learning but as you say my OT Bible is not what yours is. Another woman on here that practices Judaism states there is no messiah it is a new era. Yet you claim it's a person.
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it is, the ot is clear about it, mashiach ben david, even from your version of the ot it is not that hard to understand jesus is not that mashiach.
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Dude you're deluded, Jews were in the banking sector in Europe when it began in Italy with the Medicis. You really gotta own up to some of your true responsibility in matters. I mean seriously, nomads and farmers? Dude, you haven't realized you're not talking to some ignorant simpleton by now? I am just not going to buy that crap bro. When the Moors invaded Spain the Jews got themselves a nice piece of power in Europe until they were all kicked the fuck out. They weren't trying to be left in peace, they were conspiring for power, just as they were before in Rome, and then in Egypt, Babylon, Assyria and back even in Sumer, and probably they were at it even before the flood. I mean seriously dude, save the BS for someone else.

Nomads and farmers wanting to be left in peace lmao
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


yep dude! farmers and nomads!

some jews were scholars, and achieved comfort in the courts of kings, working for them.
even those jewish bankers who were banking among none jewish bankers were all using papal bull money!

I know, none collaborating jews are a threat to the system.
collaborating jews work for the pope system, not jewish system.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


The Pope and his church are nothing but a bunch of pedophiles who can easily be blackmailed. They are content doing their jobs and being given the chance to indulge in their sinful vices. Were the church to really try to use its power for anything else other than the official agenda they would be ripped to pieces by the media in no time. Really your confabulations regarding the Church are nothing short of delusional. It's funny people like you would mock Jewish conspiracy theories that have tons of research and validation behind them and which are also backed by logical conclusions that can be corroborated easily by anyone and yet try to pass this ludicrous "evil pope" silliness.
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YES yes yes!
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The reality is that monolithic systems with one visible leader are always weak and bound to be destroyed. Jews have succeeded in controlling much of the world today because being that they were stateless for many millennia they learned the art of the international conspirateur. They became agents for Zion wherever they roamed and even as a minority they could infiltrate just the right places to enact control for their true nation, Zion. That's why the Jews are bound to fail, they think they can snare the world via a global government, but if they do attain this it will be their ultimate demise, regardless of how well they think they have it all planned. Wink
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Short rundown on this thread please??? anyone..
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Short rundown on this thread please??? anyone..
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We are discussing how Jews are deceived and contrasting with Christian bible OT and NT
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Short rundown on this thread please??? anyone..
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We are discussing how Jews are deceived and contrasting with Christian bible OT and NT

Not really paying attention to the Roman Catholics discussion that got brought up in it.
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Short rundown on this thread please??? anyone..
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We are discussing how Jews are deceived and contrasting with Christian bible OT and NT
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Well, I have to say the Old test. is the Jewish Bible (pretty much a copy of the Torah give or take) so how can they be deceived or, is it the wests rewrite from the Greek bible of the OT that has been dishonest to the Christians?

Just thinking out loud here!!
and to start on the NT, isn't that from a man name Jesus=Jacob that started the Catholic church which is pretty much ran by the Black Pope and is the largest Property owner of the world, and that has a Osiris Phallus in its courtyard form Egypt..
So, Jesus started a worship to Osiris?
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Re: a question for anyone that's Jewish
Short rundown on this thread please??? anyone..
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


We are discussing how Jews are deceived and contrasting with Christian bible OT and NT
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Well, I have to say the Old test. is the Jewish Bible (pretty much a copy of the Torah give or take) so how can they be deceived or, is it the wests rewrite from the Greek bible of the OT that has been dishonest to the Christians?

Just thinking out loud here!!
and to start on the NT, isn't that from a man name Jesus=Jacob that started the Catholic church which is pretty much ran by the Black Pope and is the largest Property owner of the world, and that has a Osiris Phallus in its courtyard form Egypt..
So, Jesus started a worship to Osiris?
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LOL don't ask me I haven't read the whole Bible yet
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Re: a question for anyone that's Jewish
Short rundown on this thread please??? anyone..
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


We are discussing how Jews are deceived and contrasting with Christian bible OT and NT
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Well, I have to say the Old test. is the Jewish Bible (pretty much a copy of the Torah give or take) so how can they be deceived or, is it the wests rewrite from the Greek bible of the OT that has been dishonest to the Christians?

Just thinking out loud here!!
and to start on the NT, isn't that from a man name Jesus=Jacob that started the Catholic church which is pretty much ran by the Black Pope and is the largest Property owner of the world, and that has a Osiris Phallus in its courtyard form Egypt..
So, Jesus started a worship to Osiris?
plus one of the three City States?
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LOL don't ask me I haven't read the whole Bible yet
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Well, being an OP on a bible thread don't you think reading the thing would help..lol Sorry... but, truly read it word for word and think about what its saying..
I believe I said before start with Gen 1 through Gen 50 HaHa..
Now I'm just trying to add to this thread a little..:Idiot 3:
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We are discussing how Jews are deceived and contrasting with Christian bible OT and NT
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Well, I have to say the Old test. is the Jewish Bible (pretty much a copy of the Torah give or take) so how can they be deceived or, is it the wests rewrite from the Greek bible of the OT that has been dishonest to the Christians?

Just thinking out loud here!!
and to start on the NT, isn't that from a man name Jesus=Jacob that started the Catholic church which is pretty much ran by the Black Pope and is the largest Property owner of the world, and that has a Osiris Phallus in its courtyard form Egypt..
So, Jesus started a worship to Osiris?
plus one of the three City States?
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


LOL don't ask me I haven't read the whole Bible yet
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


Well, being an OP on a bible thread don't you think reading the thing would help..lol Sorry... but, truly read it word for word and think about what its saying..
I believe I said before start with Gen 1 through Gen 50 HaHa..
Now I'm just trying to add to this thread a little..:Idiot 3:
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Yes and you know I am going to read both things what I have and what you told me to go look up and go from there. But right now I have my story and I am sticking to it ;)
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the jews are coming.

testifying of a jew who thought his religion his lame, went in a journey after Christ than atheism existentialism conspiracism gnosis spirituality and back to Judaism who ive found to be the true revelation of god.
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the jews are coming.

testifying of a jew who thought his religion his lame, went in a journey after Christ than atheism existentialism conspiracism gnosis spirituality and back to Judaism who ive found to be the true revelation of god.
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when?? should I hide my wallet?
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the jews are coming.

testifying of a jew who thought his religion his lame, went in a journey after Christ than atheism existentialism conspiracism gnosis spirituality and back to Judaism who ive found to be the true revelation of god.
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when?? should I hide my wallet?
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lol
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Show me in the OT where it denies Jesus isn't real, because the OT was written well before he was born. Holy Trinity, all 3 are the same being.
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mmm its hard, because the ot does not say, "look there is going to be a jesus and he is false"

but the ot gives clear indication for what messiah will do, dying for our sins is not one of them.
infact, jesus has not done anything ot says messiah will do.
you clearly don't know the ot very good, perhaps few verses that have to words pierced in them.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP

You're right I am still learning but as you say my OT Bible is not what yours is. Another woman on here that practices Judaism states there is no messiah it is a new era. Yet you claim it's a person.
 Quoting: girl with open eyes


it is, the ot is clear about it, mashiach ben david, even from your version of the ot it is not that hard to understand jesus is not that mashiach.
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There is not one Hebrew record of lineage that has been found to be in tact from the time of David through this generation that I have been able to find. If I am wrong, please correct me. I grew up in an environment that was heavily Jewish, with both ashkenazi and sephardic and have not met one family who said they had records of genealogy dating back more than a few hundred years. On my namesake lineage, the family has thorough records going back several hundred years that cover when the family identified as Jewish and also when they began to identify as Catholic. I was raised as neither or both sort of.. mostly neither. I went to mass for family christenings and family first communions (and mostly for the wine) and went to seder dinner for the story and the food (and mostly for the wine.)

I am stating the lack of genealogy records to point out the difficulty in establishing a messiah as a son of david in the current time.

I am curious if you are sephardic or ashkenazi? How have you established your lineage back to the twelve tribes? I covered earlier that a fair amount of ashkenazi jews are not actual descendants of Isreal, but converts from Europe.

I don't think that everyone feels as strongly as you do about some of your points. I have had conversations with Avi Lipkin about his campaigns of bridging these gaps between various jewish beliefs and christian beliefs in the politics of Israel and he has had good successes. He is not a believer in Jesus, but he certainly does not have your animosity towards christians and the new testament. I would say that he is open. I think your beliefs speak for you and others who share your beliefs, but they certainly don't speak for all "jews."
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Re: a question for anyone that's Jewish
To the op who asked about some links earlier. Here is another link to the sephardic conversion to catholicism. It also covers the topic of Spanish Catholics that still have some of their jewish customs despite converting as a "new christian."

[link to www.sephardim.com]

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