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First perhaps I should define magick. Magick is affecting reality with our consciousness alone, as opposed to physical manipulation. For example, telepathy is magick where communication with vocal, audible words is not. Telekinesis is magick where pushing an object with your hands is not. Elemental air/wind magick is magick where creating a small current by blowing into the air is not.

But how does it work? Many people try, few succeed, and most don't even believe in magick anymore. Some people try to use runes, sigils, talismans, amulets, crystals, etc. Some people try to use their desires and hopes. Some try to contact gods, angels, and daemons to get help. But what it really all comes down to is consciousness. Why are runes, sigils, talismans, and amulets powerful? Because they are imbued with power by a person's will. They focus a person's will. But they are not the source of the magick. Crystals are kind of different, but there's a reason they are used for things like meditation and charms rather than more powerful magick.

This leads us to the people who attempt to change reality by focusing on their desires, hoping for things, imagining they already have what they want, and using the 'law of attraction'. This is certainly a step in the right direction, and it does work to some extent, but why is it so limited? Why does it only work sometimes? Because people are still going about it wrong. Do not focus on your desires or hopes. Do not think that envisioning what you want and pretending you already have it is going to magickally make it happen. Those, and the 'law of attraction', are the first step. And they can accomplish small things. But what it really comes down to is will, and will alone. Imagine that you are God and you are about to create the Universe. Do you pray to another god to make it happen? Do you hope for it to happen? Do you desire for it to happen? Do you imagine it has already happened? Do you try to attract it to you? No, not quite any of those. Rather, you WILL it to happen. And with a strong enough will, you can will pretty much anything to happen. That is how the gods do it, that is why they are so powerful. That is what works. So stop focusing on desires, hopes, imagining what you want, and instead WILL it to happen. But be very careful, as this is very effective and could make things happen quicker than you expected or intended, and/or to a further extent than you expected or intended. Use your will to shape your reality, and use your newfound power well.

I will add that amulets, talismans, staves, and wands can be useful as a means of focusing/chanelling your power, but ultimately, they are powerful because of YOU. Because of your WILL. Runes can be used as well, and they are good because they are recognized by many people so collective will makes them powerful. Sigils can be used but in my view (I may be wrong) they aren't as powerful or as effective as the other things I have described. But it can't hurt to use them. If you create your own, that is. Be careful using sigils created by other people. The most powerful sorcerers may have no need for any object, and in truth, no one does, but amulets, talismans, etc can still be useful.

As for crystals, you can use them sort of like luck charms, and yes, they can offer some protection, they can make you dream, they can help you unlock your abilities. But don't think that they are the key, they are just one thing that can be useful in some situations.
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Ummm, this is all covered in a million well written pieces online.

How about you post some links and share some stuff up.

Here you go champ.

Poke Runyon - The Magick of Solomon
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You play too much WoW, OP.
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Ummm, this is all covered in a million well written pieces online.

How about you post some links and share some stuff up.

Here you go champ.

Poke Runyon - The Magick of Solomon
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Would you recommend any sites where I could purchase runes and talismans?
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I was just talking to a magician less than a minute ago and he disappeared right in front of me.

Are you a wizard too?

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The LOA works.

But it doesn't work when the intent is to make it work.

It's just like the double-slit, photon experiment...when you try to catch it in action (look for me and you won't see me), it doesn't work.
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Would you recommend any sites where I could purchase runes and talismans?
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You are best off making your own. Then they will be imbued with your will rather than that of someone else. They will be more powerful for you and won't have the risk of being 'tainted'.
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Would you recommend any sites where I could purchase runes and talismans?
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You make them and bless them with your own prayer to the elements. They are useless if someone else does it for you. The blessing of them is not yours to receive.

Collect smooth pebbles at a beach and etch the runes into them and follow the rights as prescribed in many texts.

Google the following and you'll be swimming in recipes.

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Ummm, this is all covered in a million well written pieces online.

How about you post some links and share some stuff up.

Here you go champ.

Poke Runyon - The Magick of Solomon
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Some more reading material. Also lots of different magic is written down in modern philiosphy texts.

The Magician's Workbook - Donald Tyson
[link to www.4shared.com]

New Millennium Magic - Donald Tyson
[link to www.4shared.com]

Enochian Magic for Beginners - Donald Tyson
[link to www.4shared.com]

Ceremonial Magic: A guide to the Mechanisms of Ritual - Israel Regardie
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Middle Pillar: The Balance Between Mind and Magic - Israel Regardie
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Tree of Life: A Study in Magic - Israel Regardie
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Golden Dawn (Llewellyn's Golden Dawn Series) - Israel Regardie
[link to www.4shared.com]

Liber Kaos - Peter J. Carroll
[link to www.4shared.com]

Liber Null & Psychonaut: An Introduction to Chaos Magic - Peter J. Carroll
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Apophenion A Chaos Magic Paradigm - Peter J. Carroll
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Necronomicon - Simon
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Necronomicon Spellbook - Simon
[link to www.4shared.com]

Papal Magic: Occult Practices Within the Catholic Church - Simon
[link to www.4shared.com]

Modern Magick: Eleven Lessons in the High Magickal Arts - Donald Michael Kraig
[link to www.4shared.com]

Modern Sex Magick: Secrets of Erotic Spirituality - Donald Michael Kraig
[link to www.4shared.com]

Voodoo Dolls In Magick And Ritual - Denise Alvarado
[link to www.4shared.com]

Isis Unveiled - Helena Petrovna Blavatsky
[link to www.4shared.com]

Studies in Occultism - Helena Petrovna Blavatsky
[link to www.4shared.com]

Magick Without Tears - Aleister Crowley
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Vision and the Voice - Aleister Crowley
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Book of Lies - Aleister Crowley
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Complete Astrological Writings of Aleister Crowley - Aleister Crowley, John Symonds, Kenneth Grant
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Confessions of Aleister Crowley - Aleister Crowley
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Book of the Goetia of Solomon the King - Aleister Crowley
[link to www.4shared.com]

Book 4 Part III Magick In Theory And Practice - Aleister Crowley
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Necronomicon - Aleister Crowley
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Qabalah - Aleister Crowley
[link to www.4shared.com]

Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God - Kenneth Grant
[link to www.4shared.com]

Hecate's Fountain - Kenneth Grant
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Mystical Qabalah - Dion Fortune
[link to www.4shared.com]

Psychic Self-Defense - Dion Fortune
[link to www.4shared.com]

Applied Magic - Dion Fortune
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Lesser Key of Solomon - Joseph H. Peterson
[link to www.4shared.com]

Grimorium Verum - Joseph H. Peterson
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Book of Ceremonial Magic - Arthur Edward Waite
[link to www.4shared.com]

Practical Sigil Magic - Frater U.D.
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Book of Solomon's Magick - Carroll Poke Runyon, Poke Runyon
[link to www.4shared.com]

Spirit Guide Contact Through Hypnosis - Bruce Goldberg
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Roots of Witchcraft - Michael Harrison
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Key to Solomon's Key: Secrets of Magic and Masonry - Lon Milo DuQuette
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Chicken Qabalah of Rabbi Lamed Ben Clifford: Dilettante's Guide to What You Do and Do Not Need to Know to Become a Qabalist - Lon Milo Duquette
[link to www.4shared.com]

Fire & Ice: Magical Teachings of Germany's Secret Occult Order - S. Edred Flowers, Edred Thorsson
[link to www.4shared.com]

A Practical Guide to Witchcraft and Magick Spells - Cassandra Eason
[link to www.4shared.com]

Kabbalistic Handbook for the Practicing Magician - Joseph C. Lisiewski
[link to www.4shared.com]

Ceremonial Magic & The Power of Evocation: A System of Personal Power - Joseph C. Lisiewski
[link to www.4shared.com]

Grimoire for the Apprentice Wizard - Oberon Zell-Ravenheart
[link to www.4shared.com]

Creating Magickal Entities: A Complete Guide to Entity Creation - David Michael Cunningham, Taylor Ellwood, T. Amanda R. Wagener
[link to www.4shared.com]

Kabbalah for Beginners - Michael Laitman
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Art Practice of Clairvoyance - OPHIEL
[link to www.4shared.com]

Summoning Spirits: The Art of Magical Evocation - Konstantinos
[link to www.4shared.com]

Visual Magick: a manual of freestyle shamanism - Jan Fries
[link to www.4shared.com]

Exploring The World of Lucid Dreaming - Stephen Laberge PHD
[link to www.4shared.com]

Adventures Beyond the Body: How to Experience Out-of-Body Travel - William Buhlman
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Big Book Of NLP Techniques: 200+ Patterns & Strategies of Neuro Linguistic Programming - Shlomo Vaknin
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Psychology of Persuasion: How To Persuade Others To Your Way Of Thinking - Kevin Hogan
[link to www.4shared.com]
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The Key of the Mysteries - Eliphas Levi
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Transcendental Magic - Eliphas Levi
[link to www.4shared.com]

Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle - Alice Bailey & Djwhal Khul
[link to www.4shared.com]

Esoteric Phychology I - Alice Bailey & Djwhal Khul
[link to www.4shared.com]

Esoteric Phychology II - Alice Bailey & Djwhal Khul
[link to www.4shared.com]

Alchemy and Alchemists - Sean Martin
[link to www.4shared.com]

Esoterism and Symbol - R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz
[link to www.4shared.com]

Mastering Witchcraft: A Practical Guide for Witches, Warlocks, and Covens - Paul Huson
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Occult Laboratory: Magic, Science and Second Sight in Late Seventeenth-Century Scotland - Michael Hunter
[link to www.4shared.com]

Magic and Alchemy (Mysteries, Legends, and Unexplained Phenomena) - Robert M. Place
[link to www.4shared.com]

Shamanism (Mysteries, Legends, and Unexplained Phenomena) - Robert M. Place
[link to www.4shared.com]

Earth, Air, Fire & Water: More Techniques of Natural Magic (Llewellyn's Practical Magick Series) - Scott Cunningham
[link to www.4shared.com]

Hermes in the Academy - Wouter J. Hanegraaff, Joyce Pijnenburg
[link to www.4shared.com]
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Some are just born with it and do not need any training at all.
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Some are just born with it and do not need any training at all.
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Because they understand. And because they are open minded.
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Some are just born with it and do not need any training at all.
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Correct, but all lack the experience or knowledge to use it properly.

Read, learn of everything and use it when it needs to mean something.

The Last Sorcerers: The Path from Alchemy to the Periodic Table - Richard Morris
[link to www.4shared.com]

Grimoires: A History of Magic Books - Owen Davies
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Theatre of Magick - Ray Sherwin
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Corpus Hermeticum - G.R.S. Mead
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Kybalion: A Study Of Hermetic Philosophy - Three Initiates
[link to www.4shared.com]

Practical Mental Magic - Theodore Annemann
[link to www.4shared.com]

Three Books of Occult Philosophy - Henry Cornelius Agrippa
[link to www.4shared.com]

Exorcising the Tree of Evil - William G. Gray
[link to www.4shared.com]

Manual of Freemasonry - Richard Carlile
[link to www.4shared.com]

Out of the Shadows: An Exploration of Dark Paganism and Magick - John J. Coughlin
[link to www.4shared.com]

Self-Initiation Into the Golden Dawn Tradition: A Complete Cirriculum of Study for Both the Solitary Magician and the Working Magical Group - Chic Cicero, Sandra Tabatha Cicero
[link to www.4shared.com]

Sexual Psychic Seduction - Psi Research Institute
[link to www.4shared.com]

Spiritual Alchemy: The Inner path - Robert Ambelain
[link to www.4shared.com]

Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy - Robert Hewitt Brown
[link to www.4shared.com]
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Nice thread, OP

We are the magical children


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there's no need for the 'K' on the end.

and talking about it only serves to decrease its efficacy.

you have much yet to learn.
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Magic is meaning, intention, love, anger, a prayer, a curse, hopeful and hopeless.

It is only as effective as the person using it is balanced in their body, spirit and will. The third eye is a gift for many, but it is hardly a substitute for ethics.

Leave morals to gossip queens. Ethics are what show the prowess of a casting. It must always be meaningful. Showing absolute power and the will to control so it is not used. There are no levels of power, just a goal and an arrival at that goal.

How arriving at that goal of MANY paths, the path of least resistance is the one that covers the most ethical ground. What does it give, and what does it remove. What is the true cost?


Symbols, Sex, and the Stars - Ernest Busenbark
[link to www.4shared.com]

Techniques of High Magick - Francis King
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Black Sun: The Alchemy and Art of Darkness (Carolyn and Ernest Fay Series in Analytical Psychology) - Stanton Marlan
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Initiatic Path in the Arcana of Tarot and Kabbalah - Samael Aun Weor
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Necromantic Ritual Book - Leilah Wendell
[link to www.4shared.com]

The New Living Qabalah: A Practical Guide to Understanding the Tree of Life - Will Parfitt
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Satanic Rituals - Anton Szandor LaVey
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Satanic Bible - Anton Szandor LaVey
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Watchtower & The Masons: A Preliminary Investigation - Fritz Springmeier
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Way of the Crucible - Robert Bartlett
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Witch's Master Grimoire - Lady Sabrina
[link to www.4shared.com]

Wicca: A Guide for the Solitary Practitioner - Scott Cunningham
[link to www.4shared.com]

Yeats and Alchemy - William T. Gorski
[link to www.4shared.com]

Demons of the Flesh: The Complete Guide to Left-Hand Path Sex Magic - Zeena and Nikolas Shreck
[link to www.4shared.com]
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there's no need for the 'K' on the end.

and talking about it only serves to decrease its efficacy.

you have much yet to learn.
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Why do you care how I spell it?

Talking about personal rituals can decrease their efficiency. Talking about how magick works in a general sense does no harm (unless said knowledge falls into the wrong hands).
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Real magic is done without spells.
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there's no need for the 'K' on the end.

and talking about it only serves to decrease its efficacy.

you have much yet to learn.
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Why do you care how I spell it?
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if i'm not mistaken, the truer form of the word etymologically speaking is magic, while magick is more of a literary invention.

it's simply, magic.

Talking about personal rituals can decrease their efficiency. Talking about how magick works in a general sense does no harm (unless said knowledge falls into the wrong hands).
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fair enough.
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Real magic is done without spells.
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Mhm.

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Magic is meaning, intention, love, anger, a prayer, a curse, hopeful and hopeless.

It is only as effective as the person using it is balanced in their body, spirit and will. The third eye is a gift for many, but it is hardly a substitute for ethics.

Leave morals to gossip queens. Ethics are what show the prowess of a casting. It must always be meaningful. Showing absolute power and the will to control so it is not used. There are no levels of power, just a goal and an arrival at that goal.

How arriving at that goal of MANY paths, the path of least resistance is the one that covers the most ethical ground. What does it give, and what does it remove. What is the true cost?


Symbols, Sex, and the Stars - Ernest Busenbark
[link to www.4shared.com]

Techniques of High Magick - Francis King
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Black Sun: The Alchemy and Art of Darkness (Carolyn and Ernest Fay Series in Analytical Psychology) - Stanton Marlan
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Initiatic Path in the Arcana of Tarot and Kabbalah - Samael Aun Weor
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Necromantic Ritual Book - Leilah Wendell
[link to www.4shared.com]

The New Living Qabalah: A Practical Guide to Understanding the Tree of Life - Will Parfitt
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Satanic Rituals - Anton Szandor LaVey
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Satanic Bible - Anton Szandor LaVey
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Watchtower & The Masons: A Preliminary Investigation - Fritz Springmeier
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Way of the Crucible - Robert Bartlett
[link to www.4shared.com]

The Witch's Master Grimoire - Lady Sabrina
[link to www.4shared.com]

Wicca: A Guide for the Solitary Practitioner - Scott Cunningham
[link to www.4shared.com]

Yeats and Alchemy - William T. Gorski
[link to www.4shared.com]

Demons of the Flesh: The Complete Guide to Left-Hand Path Sex Magic - Zeena and Nikolas Shreck
[link to www.4shared.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44693278

Holy cats dude, if someone was ever to wade through everything on that list you just gave, they would be completely lost. There are so many conflicting practices and philosophies in those various tomes, and the subject matter in general is esoteric to the extreme.

An easier way to approach the subject is to focus on a single philosophy and practice at a time, until you find one that resonates with you and feels like it is something you want to pursue further.

Just wanted to clarify that in case anyone decided to mind-bomb themselves with all that at once.
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Real magic is done without spells.
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Mhm.

ohyeah
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Real magic is done without spells.
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Mhm.

ohyeah
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Some are just born with it and do not need any training at all.
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Correct, but all lack the experience or knowledge to use it properly.

Read, learn of everything and use it when it needs to mean something.

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Do not judge another's level of ability by one statement alone.

There are some natural born that because of their untrained, uninfluenced ways, will be stronger than the most trained. They just "know." Train a strong natural born? Watch out. Some experience can't be taught in a book. Add experience to training? Watch out.

Magic should not be randomly practiced. It must be respected and treated with utmost care. It is 99% intention, faith and karmic work.

Learning different systems is useful but being strong natural born you just know what to do by intuition. Being strong natural born you have to be very careful what you do with intention. Across your entire thought pattern.

As with every system there are many variations.
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Real magic is done without spells.
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Correct.
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Real magic is done without spells.
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Correct.
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