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Dr. Astro
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BPearthwatch gets it wrong... again.
No, this is not comet ISON.

BPearthwatch has no idea what he's talking about. Again. It's actually galaxy NGC 936.
[link to nova.astrometry.net]
He's moderating all comments on his video and I kind of doubt he'll accept my comment correctly identifying the object in question. It's not ISON, they simply showed an image of it at the end of one of the Slooh shows about ISON to show what else their members were looking at (and pointing out how it looks like a star wars tie fighter), just to advertise for their subscription service. BPearthwatch either wasn't paying attention or didn't understand (or he does understand and he's just lying to get hits in order to drive up ad revenue on his channel), so he jumps to the conclusion that it's ISON and that this image confirms that there are objects next to ISON. Wrong. It's a galaxy about 50 million light years away. It is not comet ISON. Astrometry confirms this.
[link to nova.astrometry.net]
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I think the extremely thick and heavy hick accent should've given it away that hes an idiot that has no idea what hes talking about. rednecks cant be smart, its just not possible lol
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Give us your no BS thoughts on ISON.
Fuck it, lets party!!!!
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Give us your no BS thoughts on ISON.
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No comment?????WTF
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Give us your no BS thoughts on ISON.
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No comment?????WTF
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FUKIN thankYOU Once again.. you saved my ass from last time this crackpot tried all his scare BS.. Elenin... Please put this VERY AMATURE astronomer in his place.. he knows "just enough to be dangerous". You know your shit, and can always back it up, not like most here!! thanks DA
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5 slap, and a PR!! and this too spacenut
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Does anyone know where to find alternative info on Ison and related topics?

I'm not interested in NASA or "official" sources. Perhaps a skilled amateur or a former employee that has a good grasp of how to analyze available data without any sort of religious bent.

1- BP said that the coma of Ison is 6 times the size of earth Is this even true?) He also mentioned that it could possibly be a plasma field. He cited a wiki article about how plasma could be generated at high speeds.. it was for a plasma weapon but what about a massive propulsion system? Or just a naturally occurring plasma field? In any case a plasma field that huge could totally fry the power grid (see item 4)

2- What about the segmented V shape? The NASA explanation on this doesn't seem to hold water.

3- The Deep Impact satellite that was supposed to send pics is conveniently tumbling out of control and unable to do so. Something fishy here no?

4- The power grid shutdown supposedly going down in November. Where did this story come from? Last I heard this has not been confirmed and people don't know if it's an actual shutdown or a drill. Is this story even true?

5- How are the orbits calculated on a "new" comet? If it's new as they say, how do they know that this thing isn't just making a beeline for our solar system? How do they know that it will whip around the sun?
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Astro

You come on here debunk BPE which I get. I fully got it. But I asked you a simple question and you have not replied.

To me you seem informed and educated on these subjects but you cannot offer a no BS assessment of ISON.

WTF DUDE!!!!

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This bitch called "BPearthwatch" is doing his shit videos for the MONEY, go to his website and see his store.

Astro is a bitch too so they can kill each other
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Astro

Give us your no BS thoughts on ISON.
 Quoting: Mukk1234


No comment?????WTF
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Oh no!...The MIB got him!!!
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Couldn't get on GLP after I posted this. Internet weirdness. ISON will probably be a disappointing comet compared to the hype, but it will also probably at least put on a decent show in telescopes and binoculars. There's also a small chance of awesome show, but I'm not holding my breath. Not doomy though.
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This bitch called "BPearthwatch" is doing his shit videos for the MONEY, go to his website and see his store.

Astro is a bitch too so they can kill each other
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Wow, kill each other?
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Astro

You come on here debunk BPE which I get. I fully got it. But I asked you a simple question and you have not replied.

To me you seem informed and educated on these subjects but you cannot offer a no BS assessment of ISON.

WTF DUDE!!!!
 Quoting: Mukk1234

Relax man, I wasn't here, in fact I couldn't even get on for some reason.
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Astro

You come on here debunk BPE which I get. I fully got it. But I asked you a simple question and you have not replied.

To me you seem informed and educated on these subjects but you cannot offer a no BS assessment of ISON.

WTF DUDE!!!!
 Quoting: Mukk1234

Relax man, I wasn't here, in fact I couldn't even get on for some reason.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


How dare you not reply to him when GLP is down!
You're not the only one, I have been having problems connecting for a few days.
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1- BP said that the coma of Ison is 6 times the size of earth Is this even true?)
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A comet's coma is always large if it's a decent comet. Really impressive comets can have comas that even exceed the size of the sun. They're very tenuous though, there's not a lot of mass there especially compared to a planet like earth. They're large because they're not gravitationally bound to the parent comet. The solar wind blows back these particles to form the tail.
2- What about the segmented V shape? The NASA explanation on this doesn't seem to hold water.
 Quoting: AC

It does hold water. All the water. I came to the same conclusion before NASA even said it.

3- The Deep Impact satellite that was supposed to send pics is conveniently tumbling out of control and unable to do so. Something fishy here no?
 Quoting: AC

Nothing convenient about it. Nothing fishy either about an 8 year old probe having problems when it had a designed life of only 1 year. It was having communications system problems 2 years ago during the Hartley 2 encounter.
4- The power grid shutdown supposedly going down in November. Where did this story come from? Last I heard this has not been confirmed and people don't know if it's an actual shutdown or a drill. Is this story even true?
 Quoting: AC

Heard nothing of the kind, but reminds me of similar bullshit promising a shutdown during the Elenin nonsense in 2011.
5- How are the orbits calculated on a "new" comet? If it's new as they say, how do they know that this thing isn't just making a beeline for our solar system? How do they know that it will whip around the sun?
 Quoting: AC

This paper from 1937 describes the methods of Laplace and Gauss for preliminary orbit determination and they are still used even today.
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
It's basic celestial mechanics. Put simply, astrometric measurements of the comet's position over time are used to determine the orbit. So yes, we know how it will "whip around the sun." Gravity works.

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1- BP said that the coma of Ison is 6 times the size of earth Is this even true?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3122301

A comet's coma is always large if it's a decent comet. Really impressive comets can have comas that even exceed the size of the sun. They're very tenuous though, there's not a lot of mass there especially compared to a planet like earth. They're large because they're not gravitationally bound to the parent comet. The solar wind blows back these particles to form the tail.
2- What about the segmented V shape? The NASA explanation on this doesn't seem to hold water.
 Quoting: AC

It does hold water. All the water. I came to the same conclusion before NASA even said it.

3- The Deep Impact satellite that was supposed to send pics is conveniently tumbling out of control and unable to do so. Something fishy here no?
 Quoting: AC

Nothing convenient about it. Nothing fishy either about an 8 year old probe having problems when it had a designed life of only 1 year. It was having communications system problems 2 years ago during the Hartley 2 encounter.
4- The power grid shutdown supposedly going down in November. Where did this story come from? Last I heard this has not been confirmed and people don't know if it's an actual shutdown or a drill. Is this story even true?
 Quoting: AC

Heard nothing of the kind, but reminds me of similar bullshit promising a shutdown during the Elenin nonsense in 2011.
5- How are the orbits calculated on a "new" comet? If it's new as they say, how do they know that this thing isn't just making a beeline for our solar system? How do they know that it will whip around the sun?
 Quoting: AC

This paper from 1937 describes the methods of Laplace and Gauss for preliminary orbit determination and they are still used even today.
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
It's basic celestial mechanics. Put simply, astrometric measurements of the comet's position over time are used to determine the orbit. So yes, we know how it will "whip around the sun." Gravity works.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Far out my man!!!! love getting my 'Cliff's notes' version of astronomy from you!!! Honestly I'd never hear or learn it otherwise.. so thanks
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Hey Astro-
Would you consider a thread or reply on the theory that the Black Death, which corresponded with the fly by of a great comet, may not have been a plague, but rather radiation poisoning from the comet proximity or dust, etc?

Your opinion is valued.
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Hey Astro-
Would you consider a thread or reply on the theory that the Black Death, which corresponded with the fly by of a great comet, may not have been a plague, but rather radiation poisoning from the comet proximity or dust, etc?

Your opinion is valued.
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That's just silly. Old comet superstitions trying to cling onto life in the modern era. The only death brought on by comets so far (other than any unfortunate human in the blast radius of Tunguska) have been those who have killed themselves over comets in the past. As for the Black Death, Yersinia pestis is to blame.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
[link to www.nature.com]
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Hey Astro-
Would you consider a thread or reply on the theory that the Black Death, which corresponded with the fly by of a great comet, may not have been a plague, but rather radiation poisoning from the comet proximity or dust, etc?

Your opinion is valued.
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That's just silly. Old comet superstitions trying to cling onto life in the modern era. The only death brought on by comets so far (other than any unfortunate human in the blast radius of Tunguska) have been those who have killed themselves over comets in the past. As for the Black Death, Yersinia pestis is to blame.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
[link to www.nature.com]
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What a loser! BP blocked me from commenting on any of his videos. LMAO! What a scam and fraud he is. I guess he can't handle the "REAL" truth. Totally pathetic!
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Hey Astro-
Would you consider a thread or reply on the theory that the Black Death, which corresponded with the fly by of a great comet, may not have been a plague, but rather radiation poisoning from the comet proximity or dust, etc?

Your opinion is valued.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46001487


That's just silly. Old comet superstitions trying to cling onto life in the modern era. The only death brought on by comets so far (other than any unfortunate human in the blast radius of Tunguska) have been those who have killed themselves over comets in the past. As for the Black Death, Yersinia pestis is to blame.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
[link to www.nature.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro






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Hey Astro-
Would you consider a thread or reply on the theory that the Black Death, which corresponded with the fly by of a great comet, may not have been a plague, but rather radiation poisoning from the comet proximity or dust, etc?

Your opinion is valued.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46001487


That's just silly. Old comet superstitions trying to cling onto life in the modern era. The only death brought on by comets so far (other than any unfortunate human in the blast radius of Tunguska) have been those who have killed themselves over comets in the past. As for the Black Death, Yersinia pestis is to blame.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
[link to www.nature.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro






Comets and Contagion:
Evolution and Diseases From Space


Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D.1, and Chandra Wickramasinghe, Ph.D.2,
1Cosmology.com - Emeritus, Brain Research Laboratory, Northern California.
2Astrobiology Centre, Cardiff University, UK

[link to journalofcosmology.com]


Fires from Heaven. Comets and diseases incircum-Mediterranean Disaster Myths

Dr. Amanda Laoupi

Centre for the Assessment of Natural Hazards & Proactive Planning – NTUA

[link to www.academia.edu]


NASA Scientist Finds Extraterrestrial Bacteria In Meteorite

[link to www.metafilter.com]


State of Emergency Declared in Chelyabinsk Over Rabies Outbreak Rabies Outbreak After Meteor Strike In Chelyabinsk, Russia: State Of Emergency Declared


Read more: [link to www.themoscowtimes.com]
The Moscow Times

Bubonic Plague Outbreak Feared in Central Asia

[link to www.weather.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46904794


Again.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
[link to www.nature.com]
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