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Do You Feel Bad As An American That You Buy Products Made With Slave Labor In China And Asia?

 
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Do You Feel Bad As An American That You Buy Products Made With Slave Labor In China And Asia?
Do you feel played when an American company makes its products abroad and then sell them to you While calling them American products?

I ask because Americans are camping out to buy these slave labor made iphones and profiling and primping to show they have the lastest one. they are also bashing each other in the face to have them.

You pay astronomical amounts of money for Blue Jeans made by slave workers overseas and America is the country that invented Blue Jeans. Are you THAT ignorant?

Whats up with America? Are you gonna try to blame the 1% for selling them to you?

Here's some more food for thought.


When you are supporing those college sports on TV, those colleges that you could NEVER afford to attend? You are watching the top 10% of America,excluding the athletes on scholarship.

You think you are a part of the show but you are a spectator. You couldn't affor 1 fucking semester at one of those colleges or Universities yet you support them and think you are a part of the pageantry.

Look at that stadium audience. Those students(Excluding the ones on scholarship) are your top 10% Masers. Their families wrote a check for them to attend those schools for $100,000 yet you cheer like a fucking retard and you have absolutely no connection at all to them.
They live in a WHOLE different America than most of you.


I know most of this is just occurring to you. I'll await your awakening from your slumber.
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Do you?
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Do You Feel Bad As An American That You Buy Products Made With Slave Labor In China And Asia?
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So....OP....


What did you post this with?

Your iPhone?.... iPad?.....maybe a PC???


potkettle crayon
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Re: Do You Feel Bad As An American That You Buy Products Made With Slave Labor In China And Asia?
Fitter, happier, more productive,
Comfortable,
Not drinking too much,
Regular exercise at the gym
(Three days a week),
Getting on better with your associate employee contemporaries,
At ease,
Eating well
(No more microwave dinners and saturated fats),
A patient better driver,
A safer car
(Baby smiling in back seat),
Sleeping well
(No bad dreams),
No paranoia,
Careful to all animals
(Never washing spiders down the plughole),
Keep in contact with old friends
(Enjoy a drink now and then),
Will frequently check credit at (moral) bank (hole in the wall),
Favors for favors,
Fond but not in love,
Charity standing orders,
On Sundays ring road supermarket
(No killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants),
Car wash
(Also on Sundays),
No longer afraid of the dark or midday shadows
Nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate,
Nothing so childish, at a better pace,
Slower and more calculated,
No chance of escape,
Now self-employed,
Concerned (but powerless),
An empowered and informed member of society
(Pragmatism not idealism),
Will not cry in public,
Less chance of illness,
Tires that grip in the wet
(Shot of baby strapped in back seat),
A good memory,
Still cries at a good film,
Still kisses with saliva,
No longer empty and frantic like a cat tied to a stick,
That's driven into frozen winter shit
(The ability to laugh at weakness),
Calm,
Fitter,
Healthier and more productive
A pig in a cage on antibiotics.


[link to rock.rapgenius.com]
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As an American do you feel like you are the Anti Christ?
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Quit using the word slave. It implies they are forced to work against their will for no compensation.
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Do You Feel Bad As An American That You Buy Products Made With Slave Labor In China And Asia?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45378952


So....OP....


What did you post this with?

Your iPhone?.... iPad?.....maybe a PC???


potkettle crayon
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


ROFLCopter2
Abuse the masses to reach a few.
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Quit using the word slave. It implies they are forced to work against their will for no compensation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32501737


You obviously have never heard of the term victim of circumstance. Those people are put in a position where they have no choice but to be a slave laborer or live in squalor and perpetual danger.

You know this and what is even sadder is that you would try to shade your face from it.
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Do You Feel Bad As An American That You Buy Products Made With Slave Labor In China And Asia?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45378952


So....OP....


What did you post this with?

Your iPhone?.... iPad?.....maybe a PC???


potkettle :crayon:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Just like a little Anti Christ your evil.
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Do You Feel Bad As An American That You Buy Products Made With Slave Labor In China And Asia?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45378952


So....OP....


What did you post this with?

Your iPhone?.... iPad?.....maybe a PC???


potkettle crayon
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Just like a little Anti Christ your evil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45378952


For pointing out that you are a hypocrite and dullard?

norespect
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Do You Feel Bad As An American That You Buy Products Made With Slave Labor In China And Asia?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45378952


So....OP....


What did you post this with?

Your iPhone?.... iPad?.....maybe a PC???


potkettle :crayon:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Just like a little Anti Christ your evil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45378952


For pointing out that you are a hypocrite and dullard?

norespect
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


For trying to justify and rationalize your and your Nations evil policies instead f admitting the truth. You are unrepentant which proves OP's point that you are the Anti christ. All of you.
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No, I do not feel bad that China and Asia are producing commodities I buy.

China has a huge human population and needs them employed at larger the amounts than we do. Or China would suffer and when their nation that large suffers we would suffer with them.

Same it is with the islands they need the chance to build their selves up as well as we did.

They get paid less than the dollar pays us but in a different nations economic setting.

They are not slaves.

The only thing I do not like is the ones who invite this production, as the merchant to set up shop for their employes, are not all giving their employes decent work areas and buildings. Work safety and human life concern, is not given unto them by their employer, who is not the company the employer is working for.

This is a problem with the nation and its own regulations and its business people who set up shop there.

This will be changed it has to be changed we can not have humans burning to death in sweater shops.

We had this even in the US in our past...it has to be stopped by their own nations leaders.

I do not begrudge them for wanting like wise to earn their bread and have a better way of life.


We can produce as much as corporations are willing to innovate and put forth.
That takes capital and buyers of their products.

We need to stabilize the economies of the world and spark the imaginations of the humans.

Sports is not labor and industry nor global or national economy.

Nor is it our way of life and way of living it in a whole.

Neither is education.

Will Way and Desire for both is.

A matter of heart first mind from the heart..have a good day or night where ever you are.
The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds.
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Do You Feel Bad As An American That You Buy Products Made With Slave Labor In China And Asia?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45378952


So....OP....


What did you post this with?

Your iPhone?.... iPad?.....maybe a PC???


potkettle :crayon:
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hit a nerve, didn't he.

lolatu
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...


So....OP....


What did you post this with?

Your iPhone?.... iPad?.....maybe a PC???


potkettle crayon
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Just like a little Anti Christ your evil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45378952


For pointing out that you are a hypocrite and dullard?

norespect
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


For trying to justify and rationalize your and your Nations evil policies instead f admitting the truth. You are unrepentant which proves OP's point that you are the Anti christ. All of you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32506974


Yeah...sure thing there bro.

....and keep posting away from your iPhone/iPad/PC. cruise

dumbpeeps
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Nope not at all.

US, Europe etc all had child labor and slave labor periods.

Just part of developing countries.
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09/15/2013 09:32 PM
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No, I do not feel bad that China and Asia are producing commodities I buy.

China has a huge human population and needs them employed at larger the amounts than we do. Or China would suffer and when their nation that large suffers we would suffer with them.

Same it is with the islands they need the chance to build their selves up as well as we did.

They get paid less than the dollar pays us but in a different nations economic setting.

They are not slaves.

The only thing I do not like is the ones who invite this production, as the merchant to set up shop for their employes, are not all giving their employes decent work areas and buildings. Work safety and human life concern, is not given unto them by their employer, who is not the company the employer is working for.

This is a problem with the nation and its own regulations and its business people who set up shop there.

This will be changed it has to be changed we can not have humans burning to death in sweater shops.

We had this even in the US in our past...it has to be stopped by their own nations leaders.

I do not begrudge them for wanting like wise to earn their bread and have a better way of life.


We can produce as much as corporations are willing to innovate and put forth.
That takes capital and buyers of their products.

We need to stabilize the economies of the world and spark the imaginations of the humans.

Sports is not labor and industry nor global or national economy.

Nor is it our way of life and way of living it in a whole.

Neither is education.

Will Way and Desire for both is.

A matter of heart first mind from the heart..have a good day or night where ever you are.
 Quoting: Wondering Mind

For your support of slave labor and for you totally ignoring Americas hypocrisy on Human Rights then you cannot get mad when all of your jobs are sent out of your country and sent to places where the people have no protection of their human or labor rights that YOU enjoy.

You seem to put humanity into categories in your mind, those who are "Like us" and everyone else. This will be your down fall when THEIR economies over take yours and YOU become the Slave laborer struggling in fear and squalor.

You cannot have it both ways. People are burning in sweat shops because you do not care to boycott those products nd demand. Th funny part is that you don't even have to care about those people all you really have to do to stop it is demand that your jobs not be shipped out of the country.

Instead like a good little Anti Christ you will go along because you are getting what you want. You couldn't give a FUCK about anyone that doesn't directly affect your life. As it is planned for you to be.
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If i had a choice, maybe it would matter. At this point in time there really aint shit made here so if i did give a shit it wouldn't matter much.
“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.”

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The ONLY reason that Germany has the strongest economy in the Western world is because they didn't let their Corporation leave for the cheap slave labor of China and Asia.

They told them if you go o not come back and we will not buy your products.

You cannot get beyond LYING to yourself to even BEGIN to see your situation.
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no.

i would lock some commie chinks in my basement and make them work if it were legal.
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If i had a choice, maybe it would matter. At this point in time there really aint shit made here so if i did give a shit it wouldn't matter much.
 Quoting: Mr. Reality


It would be a start. Everything has to start somewhere.
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Now that you have seen your own attitude,now you know why the 1% has no respect for you and would rather make money shipping you off to die in War than to rebuild the American economy.

You cannot now unsee what you have seen.
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Now that you have seen your own attitude,now you know why the 1% has no respect for you and would rather make money shipping you off to die in War than to rebuild the American economy.

You cannot now unsee what you have seen.
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Stop looking for the Anti Christ because YOU are it.
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Now that you have seen your own attitude,now you know why the 1% has no respect for you and would rather make money shipping you off to die in War than to rebuild the American economy.

You cannot now unsee what you have seen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45378952


Stop looking for the Anti Christ because YOU are it.
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deargod
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Quit using the word slave. It implies they are forced to work against their will for no compensation.
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Well, actually they are.

In the Re-education through Labor camps (now being renamed Drug Rehabilitation centers), in prisons, in detention centers, in brainwashing centers, in local jails .. all those who are incarcerated work.

Since many of them are unskilled, they package goods like chopsticks, toothpicks and bar picks, clothing, magazines, electronics, you name it, they package it. The facility gets paid, they are supposed to be paid, but that is an iffy situation. Many times they are paid a tiny amount, but are forced to buy necessities or even food to supplement meager diets from the facility store. So there is none left over. Money sent from home goes into the guards' pockets.

In the prisons, they manufacture heavy equipment and agricultural machinery, wind power generators and electrical substation equipment, fertilizer, bricks, and all manner of industrial production in addition to the prison labor in the special economic zones where there are food processing plants that produce frozen foods for domestic and export, In one province, one of the electrical utilities has production in several prisons that makes their equipment. Just to name a few examples.

Forced labor makes the Chinese economy tick right along and enables them to sell many products at a substantially lower price than even other Chinese sources.

Slave labor? Well, they can't just walk out an get a better job somewhere.

[link to www.upholdjustice.org]

This is the most extensive collection of evidence but not the only one.

Those places are in effect, slave labor institutions.

***

To answer the original question.

I have avoided products made in China for over 12 years, and have not suffered any serious inconvenience. Sometimes it is absolutely unavoidable, but usually not.

One thing I have noticed in recent years is a trend away from Chinese products, especially in clothing.

No matter where you are in the world, your nation supports the slave labor factories in China. Americans are not the only market. Nobody can feel superior, every country has sold out.

Their cheap goods have even driven local African products out of the markets. They call the cheap Chinese products zhing zhong in Zimbabwe.
*********** WaterLily ***********
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Disturb the universe?"
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and finished it in the middle of the summer."
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The ONLY reason that Germany has the strongest economy in the Western world is because they didn't let their Corporation leave for the cheap slave labor of China and Asia.

They told them if you go o not come back and we will not buy your products.

You cannot get beyond LYING to yourself to even BEGIN to see your situation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32506974


The German GOVERNMENT told their corporations that if you try to ship our jobs to China like America did we will slap you with such high import tariffs that you will won't be able to sell anything to Germany.

America's so called Libertarians are against Government for reason such as this.

They want Government weakened to the point where corporations have NO responsibility to the Nation only the shareholders.

99% of the so called Libertarians and Conservatives are just stupid dupes who follow along without reason.
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Germany prepared their people for the jobs of the 21st century by beginning job training Mentoring programs in High school and free education in Community college.

FREE? Yes free.

They even raised salaries of workers when they had to furlough workers hours when the recession his in 2008. Rather than treat their people as plantation slaves they treat them as the lifes blood of the Nation.

Here's the part where some Trog tries to justify the 1% of America assfucking them because of the different "Races" living in America. cruise
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To tank the production of commodities in nations that do not have the same cost of living expenses we have, and the high taxes and cost to business like our money pit.

Is to cause skyrocketing of the price of commodities unto us and others as well.

Sinking of others economies and this hurts us as well.

All because we live in a nation that has made no real effort of offering us anything much to work at.

And whose fault is that? Our own people in high seats.

If they can tank even the McDonald's and Taco Bell they will.
That is what they have been doing tanking, dozing over plowing under.

Planting nothing in return.

I see Chinese auto production and many other things as well and see not slave camps.

You will always have the lower class of skimmer merchants that set up their shops, but they are not the same as the majority of large manufacturing.

They way of a merchant being a single person or household is not a tragic feeling in Africa alone, but all over the world.

The citizens do not control the corporations or the economies.

But they can hurt their own selves in them.

And they do.
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To tank the production of commodities in nations that do not have the same cost of living expenses we have, and the high taxes and cost to business like our money pit.

Is to cause skyrocketing of the price of commodities unto us and others as well.

Sinking of others economies and this hurts us as well.

All because we live in a nation that has made no real effort of offering us anything much to work at.

And whose fault is that? Our own people in high seats.

If they can tank even the McDonald's and Taco Bell they will.
That is what they have been doing tanking, dozing over plowing under.

Planting nothing in return.

I see Chinese auto production and many other things as well and see not slave camps.

You will always have the lower class of skimmer merchants that set up their shops, but they are not the same as the majority of large manufacturing.

They way of a merchant being a single person or household is not a tragic feeling in Africa alone, but all over the world.

The citizens do not control the corporations or the economies.

But they can hurt their own selves in them.

And they do.
 Quoting: Wondering Mind


Why does america have high living expenses? Because of high inflation.

Why does America have high inflation?
Because America allows the 1% to adjust interest rates and manipulate money printing to devalue their dollar in order to scoop up assets cheaply.

It has nothing to do with the shit you are spouting.

You live under Stagflation because some WANTS it that way. You live on a slave plantation where money just can't seem to trickle down.


There is NO Justification other than Greed and Apathy with a large heap of racist unconcern.
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To tank the production of commodities in nations that do not have the same cost of living expenses we have, and the high taxes and cost to business like our money pit.

Is to cause skyrocketing of the price of commodities unto us and others as well.

Sinking of others economies and this hurts us as well.

All because we live in a nation that has made no real effort of offering us anything much to work at.

And whose fault is that? Our own people in high seats.

If they can tank even the McDonald's and Taco Bell they will.
That is what they have been doing tanking, dozing over plowing under.

Planting nothing in return.

I see Chinese auto production and many other things as well and see not slave camps.

You will always have the lower class of skimmer merchants that set up their shops, but they are not the same as the majority of large manufacturing.

They way of a merchant being a single person or household is not a tragic feeling in Africa alone, but all over the world.

The citizens do not control the corporations or the economies.

But they can hurt their own selves in them.

And they do.
 Quoting: Wondering Mind

Perhaps you do not see labor camps, but they are a fixture of the China Communist Party's structure, as are the prisons and brainwashing centers. Every province, every major city has labor camps, you can look on the internet and find telephone numbers for them.

Just because you do not see them from here, it doesn't mean they aren't there.

And I am not talking about low paying sweat shop jobs, I am talking about forced labor, slave labor.

And that is verifiable.
*********** WaterLily ***********
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Disturb the universe?"
-- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

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“We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.”
-- Jorge Luis Borges
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"Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring,
and finished it in the middle of the summer."
-- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei
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If only we could genetically engineer worker elves like Santa has to make our iPhone and iPads . Then it wouldn't be slave labor but exploiting clones as a source of cheap labor.
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they aren't slaves. my father in law worked at a factory for 20 years, retired at 60 which is mandatory over there and now draws a nice pension. it's not like you think it is there.