Should I report my daughter to Social Services?

We can take a stroll on Fordham Rd. or Tremont, play count the crackheads!

LMAO!

You said it all in your second paragragh. Need not read any more. You gave her what YOU wanted to give her. Never set down at the home cooked family dinner and asked her what HER dreams might be.

"Maybe OP has been on GLP before and feels comfort in that she would be given solid advice"

You bring-up valid points in your post, Corndog, but we disagree.

Note that OP has now returned to the thread sounding significantly more intelligent than 'her' original posting. Did 'she' have a beautiful mind experience
in addition to the wieght and concerns of her familial problems?

Don't you remember the 'woman' OP who came on GLP some months back looking for her lost and estranged son? This OP is of the same ilk.

You may give the benefit of the doubt (and you're more than likely a far better person than I am), but I call absolute, unmitigated bullshit on OP and this thread.

Mom?

It's me, Ann.

You always said I should kill Buddha on the Road if I met him, but this is getting crazy. Why you're turning on me?

Please leave me and Don alone. You're still young. Enjoy your life.

We'll return the pressue cookers. Honest.

Nah the shills are just louder. Some are probably paid to create a circus atmosphere here.

I doubt anyone's counting their nickels of tax money in answering your question.

I'd tend to stay out and not call CPS because parents have an instinct to protect their own children. CPS has no such instinct and well documented incentive problems.

As for Bob, what little I know is consistent with someone seeking to do it right this time but being unable to get a job because of his record. (We really do put sex offenders who have served their time in an impossible situation -- one person said some can make it, but I've never heard of such a case. Not to say they don't exist.) It's also consistent with much worse. But I can't condemn him based on what I've read here.

I don't know how I suddenly gained IQ points (it's 132, btw), but maybe writing the first original post when I was barely awake had something to do with it!


Okay, I really do have to leave for the day now, so thanks again to everyone who took the time to respond.

Fordham Road, Gem.

All the counterfeit designer purses Ann can hold (wait, maybe we just found Don a job!) and plenty of Jordans for the kiddies.

Things are looking up!

Godspeed, you magnificent bastard, OP.

Please be sure to include us in the holiday newsletter.

Don't worry NSA is already on this with child protective services. They will now decide what will be done... not GLP!

Before I come to any conclusions.I would like to know if the "alleged" sex offense was merely taking a pee behind a building,or exactly what the full conviction was based on.i.e case history.
Secondly,yes it sounds like she is still young,and making bad choices so far for herself,and for her childrens' future.
I'm sure she is in a panic of not trusting you enough to leave her kids with you.For fear you are not dedicated enough
parents/ grandparents to help her,but in fact may "have enough" and send them off to foster care.
Perhaps you need (no offense here)to butt out for a bit,give her space,yet letting her know you love her No Matter What.
I see to many parents now days so quick to toss in the towel and call child services.That right there breaks down any trust a child has for her /his parents.
Pray about it.Do not act hasty,for the sake of your daughter and grandchildren.

I wouldn't drop a dime on your daughter. Instead try and re-establish the kind of relationship where she'll turn to her for advice and counsel.

It's not easy being a good single parent...sure they're out there but in small numbers in comparisons to the 2 parent family.

Very important you don't hold it against her when she doesn't follow your advice...consider 50% of the time an improvement then take stock and recalculate your plan for her further repatriation into being a responsible Mom. Good luck with whatever you chose to do.

Jesus christ... how did I continue to get quoted for the above response on the first two pages...hell I'm not even on the third page before I had to go back and response.

The OP said this:

"Now, I would not hesitate to call Social Services if it wasn’t for the fact that (1) the babies appear to be very happy and healthy, and Ann seems to be a very conscientious and loving mother MOST of the time,"

Not me you fucking morans. Talk to her, not me..christ.

Let them live their lives. It's okay for you to allow her to own herself and her choices. Good luck and enjoy your life.

Hey idiot. All she wants to do is drop a dime on her adopted child. She doesn't want to help in any sort of way.

She made that clear.

If she had said, I want to fight for custody it would be different.

All she wants to do is stir up shit and wash her hands.

She's about on par with her daughter.

"Not me you fucking morans. Talk to her, not me..christ."

That's fucking funny, AC.

The best and the brightest bringing good things to life (just like GE).

Maybe one of these hellfire good folk will pray for us all.

God Bless us, Tiny Don and all.

You sound like a guy from another site I use to visit, but now is in the graveyard.

It's even all the more funny, because I use to work for GE ;)

Threatening your daughter with a call to social services is a really bad idea!!

No wonder she LIES to you--- you threaten to sick a heartless government agency on her? Wow. I would never do this to a young parent unless they were drunk all the time or on drugs. This is terrifying.

You say you gave her piano lessons and scouts but did you give her LOVE, UNDERSTANDING, and SECURITY?

Do you even care that your grandchildren could end up being abused in foster care? Are you crazy?


SOCIAL SERVICES IS THE VERY LAST OPTION YOU SHOULD CONSIDER--- NEVER THREATEN A PARENT WITH SS unless the children show actual signs of repeated abuse and neglect.
Abuse means visible injuries that you see on the children over a period of several weeks. This means malnourishment or sexual abuse or leaving a child without a caretaker repeatedly.

You say you have not had much contact with your daughter so how can you decide whether she is a good parent or not?

You're not a very good grandparent for being out of those children's lives on a bogus excuse.

A one night bender is not good--- but it certainly does not merit getting a government agency involved--- especially since it happened in response to the death of her brother.

Maybe she enjoyed walking around town with her kids and their father.... What is wrong with walking around? NOTHING--- ITS FRESH AIR AND EXERCISE and it is not driving drunk.

Kids love to be with their parents --- walking and fresh air are not bad!


Look--- I know that this girl obviously was a handful and a difficult child. But she was a blessing to you. Can you try to see the blessing and be thankful for it despite the difficulty?

God want this from you.


If you love this person, please do not threaten her ---and try to be patient. Love is kind, patient, longsuffering and non judgmental.

Bring her back into your life and observe the children carefully. No parent is perfect. Do what is best for the children-- What is best is for them is to have a LOVING, caring family of parents AND grandparents around them.

NOT FOSTER CARE.

Dont lie. Her real name is shaniquia, and her boyfriends name is trayvon Isnt It.

I would not suggest getting the state involved, Do you know how much worse foster homes can be? Work it out any other way, but keep the state out of your life. It will be nothing but misery for all involved, especially for those kids.

Ugh, I've seen these types before. As soon as the drug addiction starts you can assume every word out of her mouth is a lie, whose primary purpose is to provide the user with the next fix.

I would continue to show some love with some conditions, such as, help is contigent on checking into a christian rehab program with a real track record. The best are teen challenge and victory outreach.

I would view Social Services as the antichrist.

You have my prayers.

What I zeroed in on . . .

Now, I would not hesitate to call Social Services if it wasn’t for the fact that (1) the babies appear to be very happy and healthy, and Ann seems to be a very conscientious and loving mother MOST of the time, and (2) I know firsthand, because of Ann, how horrible it is for young children to be taken from their mothers and how permanent the scars can be. These two facts are very important considerations.

Do you realize what happens to kids put in to Social Services? More often than not it is a nightmare. Why would you even consider it when she is a loving mother? 'MOST of the time'. Do you know how many of us exceptional mothers haven't been perfect?

In my world no mother would even consider calling Social Services, they would step in and do all to help. But I understand you don't feel that way especially as you were 'glad' when she left your life at the very young and tender age of 18.

SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION - NO - DON'T REPORT 'YOUR DAUGHTER'.

When you adopt or even take in children from dysfunctional homes, you will find that most of those kids go on to be dysfunctional as well.

My wife and I worked with a Chruch agency to try to give a loving home to difficult Foster children. Most of those difficult children went on to be felons and minor criminals. They all went on to use drugs and be serious drug abusers.

I am convinced that there is something in the wiring of their brain that makes them that way. Just like some people have Blue eyes and other Brown, some get healthy brains that compute logically and others get troubled brains that donot compute logically.

In the girls with those brains, they almost always seem to be attracted to loser.

No matter how you raise them, they all seem to follow the same pattern

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my husband and I are in our late 50’s and we have absolutely no desire to be full-time parents again!

OP. Personally I would not call social services. Nor would I start to take on that amount of responsibility for others mistakes (family or not).

I may sound cold But I've been put through the ringer tooooo many times! And I can guarantee you, they will just take whatever they can get from you...And if that ends up to be your sanity? they'll say "tough shit".

Draw your lines NOW!

One line I wish I had drawn earlier is NOBODY "moves in" with me. NOBODY!

Spend a night? Sure. Move in? Not a chance in hell!

If people don't suffer the consequenses of their own actions/inactions, they will never change their ways.

Any help will be enabeling them to continue their self destructive life style.

I think the children might be in danger, so who should she call
instead of s s. She does not want the kids.

I'm sure we will see how it un folds on the next Nancy Grace.
Sorry, but that's how I feel.

Oh and . . . you said something about being 50 and too old to take the kids on.

I could be 75 and if one of my kids had children they couldn't take care of, for whatever reason, you better believe I'd do it! With so much love and not a trace of resentment.

And the 'middle class advantage'? And in spite of it 'Anne didn't attach to you'. Those THINGS don't matter. You could be the poorest of the poor, and love your kids in a way that they are attached to you for life.

God this thread really puts me over the edge!

Thank you for that ashis. I hate to lose my temper like that.

You obviously do not know what it is like raising those mentally defective children. They are hell on the attending parents.

I think that woman should call Social Services and let the former self divorced adopted daughter know about it so she stops bothering her former mother. All people should call SS if they suspect that a child is being abused. If there is no abuse the child will be left in the home, but SS workers will occasionally visit the home just to keep the parents on the Up and UP.

Too bad he was such an underachiever.

People who know who I am have emailed me about just that very topic. They uniformely have mentioned that THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BREED. THEY JUST PRODUCE FOUR FIVE AND EVEN SIX COPIES OF THEIR BRAINDAMAGED SELVES AND MOST GO ON WELFARE AND FOOD STAMPS.