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The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives

 
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The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
But when God suddenly finds it within his heart to forgive such a POS as yourself, then you just cry literally because you can't believe someone let alone the supreme being in the universe can find it within himself to love someone so desperately unworthy as yourself.

Am I right?

It's also the old technique of what do you think about when I tell you not to think of something?

God says,

Don't even THINK about sex before marriage.

So what torments you?

Sex and not having it.

So when you think about it so much you feel even more guilty and rely on God even more to help you with your own helplessness and extreme unworthiness.

Such a cycle.

Doesn't even matter that Jesus died for your sins, you are awashed with guilt your entire lives, rendering you basically ineffective your whole life to really accomplish anything.

Welcome to the matrix. It has you.

But then there is hope you think, since you can't do anything, your savior Neo is sure to be on his way. Keep dreaming. Keep waiting. Keep praying. Do nothing.

You'll soon see the Truth when no Rapture happens and you will suffer greatly on this earth. Just remember my words.
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
You maybe should read the book for yourself because the book doesn't do any such thing.

Won't get into the people who interpret it and what they want to do with it.
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
Sure for those who have serious problems with reading comprehension.
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
Don't people do that?
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
I disagree that the Bible was designed exclusively for that purpose.

Maybe partially.
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You maybe should read the book for yourself because the book doesn't do any such thing.

Won't get into the people who interpret it and what they want to do with it.
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I'm not going to argue with anybody on this. Because you're not at a point where you are willing to listen to the truth. But once you suffer a lot, then you'll be ready.
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
Reading between the lines, your message is clear.
You feel guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything in your entire pathetic life.
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You maybe should read the book for yourself because the book doesn't do any such thing.

Won't get into the people who interpret it and what they want to do with it.
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I'm not going to argue with anybody on this. Because you're not at a point where you are willing to listen to the truth. But once you suffer a lot, then you'll be ready.
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You have no idea. The Bible is the only thing that has gotten me through and continuing the suffering of this world. It is the only thing to find in this world.
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
They say the Lord helps those who help themselves.

I wouldn't mind betting he forgives those who forgive themselves also.
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
Reading the bible has given me hope.
Studying the word has given me direction.
Specific verses have given me encouragement.
Trusting in Jesus has given me strength.
Asking God questions as I study has given me understanding.
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Reading the bible has given me hope.
Studying the word has given me direction.
Specific verses have given me encouragement.
Trusting in Jesus has given me strength.
Asking God questions as I study has given me understanding.
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They say the Lord helps those who help themselves.

I wouldn't mind betting he forgives those who forgive themselves also.
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What bible are you reading? None of that tripe is in the King James, or any of the other weak sauce versions at that.
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
It does no such thing. I think what you write says more about you and how you feel than what the bible says.

The bible gives people a lot of comfort and promises that all the crap in the world will be resolved, and that God loves us enough to fix it for us. What more could anyone want?

There is no guarantee of rapture anyway but I care more about an end to all sin. And by that end all misery and hate. Read it you might be surprised.
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What bible are you reading?
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King James actually (not the "new" version-yuck)

But I don't get my knickers in too much of a twist over the printed word. Even the alleged word of a deity.
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The Book of Job tells the story of an extremely righteous man named Job, who is very prosperous and has seven sons and three daughters. Constantly fearing that his sons may have sinned and "cursed God in their hearts", he habitually offers burnt offerings as a pardon for their sins.[3] The "sons of God" and the satan (ha-satan, literally "the adversary/accuser") present themselves to God, and God asks the satan for his opinion on Job. The satan answers that Job is pious only because God has put a "wall around" him and "blessed" his favorite servant with prosperity, but if God were to stretch out his hand and strike everything that Job had, then he would surely curse God. God gives the satan permission to test Job's righteousness [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Why, why, why would any all powerful God that can 'see' every man's innermost thoughts accept a challege like this from one of His creations (satan)?

Why would He demand a man offer his own son as a burnt offering? Yes, He relented before the child was slain, but why demand such proof of love and devotion?

The Old Testament does not paint a picture of a loving creator.
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You maybe should read the book for yourself because the book doesn't do any such thing.

Won't get into the people who interpret it and what they want to do with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28316289


I'm not going to argue with anybody on this. Because you're not at a point where you are willing to listen to the truth. But once you suffer a lot, then you'll be ready.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47010006


Most people find God because of the suffering they go through, because He offers refuge. He gives hope and the promise that evil will be defeated.

Believe me it has taken a lot of suffering from me to finally give up trying to fix things on my own. People can't get rid of the evil in the world but they can support and ask that of God who can. Read the bible seriously, and ask for comfort.

God bless.
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
Wake up people!

Wake up and discover who you really are!

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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
Better: The bible: designed to make you aware of your guilt, helplessness and unworthyness in your life.

And what do you do when you feel like that. You seek help. And who does the bible advise to seek help from.

Yes... haha, muhaHA, MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
it was designed for everyone, including the rock bottom.

so if you are not at the bottom you are not supposed to in any way shape or form step on the bottom people, neither feel good about it.

you are supposed to feel content wich whatever situation you are in.

always humble, the most humble as possible.

proud look, self steem, happyness are not compatible with the gospel.

you are supposed to be well found at most. being well found is when god take a look at you and see no blemish, thats the closest thing to happyness you can get.

you are also supposed to have the same mood as the people around you, if they laugh you laugh, if they moarn you moarn and so on...

everyone start as a sinner, you are guilty.

your help is finding jesus christ as the savior and then seeing what changes occur in yourself and in your life. this is a personal experience only.

the concept of pathetic is a lie as well, nothing about it on the bible itself.

remember, you can only evaluate within the context of the gospel and not using external concepts to evaluate from outside.
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No that is not true for all people who read the Bible.

Reading this Bible is in-taking information written knowledge.

Memorizing the letters of the Word, and driving them into a burned format into your brain is boxing your own mind off from understanding of it.

You will walk away with the letter of the Word head knowledge not heart understanding knowledge.

When I still have good given unto me, still have care even intervention unto me, from God while I know what I am, I am not separated from Him by my natural body or flesh.

I know I am a sinner I know I am evilly inclined and do have a heart that is untrustworthy and wicked..

So I do not fall for that super man garbage, thinking I in this body of flesh and weaken body, will ever be perfected in my natural flesh body.

So why expect perfection from others in their natural state and realm? I don't

Take it to "Heart".

I do take to "Heart" God knows what I am, and came for me anyway, and promised to be with me through it all, while here in my weak and vulnerable beginning state.

He loves us any way He knows what we are that He has created.
He absolutely defines wrong and right, and confirms to me I am not perfect, or able to fulfill all such as is perfectly righteous.

So why condemn my self for not doing what I am not able to do, or condemn others?

If God had a plan to make perfected human flesh beings to remain here in their material temporal realm...

Then the Promise of Eternal realm destined, Everlasting bodies not of perishable substance unto us who are of flesh.. and no flesh can enter the Eternal realm Heaven realm and Come up Hither to where God dwells in unseen to us Eternal realm..

Was in vain unto us all who have lived and died and live still here in our flesh bodies..and are to be born even today in a flesh bodies.

We need to put man of flesh in the proper perspective, and stop worshiping or looking unto the creature of flesh/man as though it is able to be God, in the flesh.

Every man in flesh people lift up high, as though there is not one who is already the Only one up High even lifted up High..

Is denying that man can not even lift him own self up high so why should we, who are men of flesh same as he.

You will find sin fault and weakness even error in all the men they idolize, and tell you to become them or like them walk after their ways and them their life.

We do not follow after men of flesh none not Solomon who was a sinner and done gross wrongs...not king David who also did so....not even Moses who did wrong and disobeyed..

Not Peter who had to be pulled back to the correct Rock by Paul...just so he could make it still holding on to that rock of Mercy and live not perish.

Have mercy on others have mercy on your self..

If you have been given Mercy why in the world will you not take it?

Stop living for sin as though it lords over you with an expectation of meeting its demands you rid it your own self..

You will fail and be heart discouraged and feel over come..

Yes accept forgiveness and have the same acceptance for others just like you.

Walk in gratitude and thanksgiving that we who are week and imperfect, can have a heart of courage and hope filled that we are wanted even in our flesh.

We were and are wanted as we are down here and was placed down here wanted in this state even for up there.

We have comfort nothing can separate us from the love of God. When we get beat down and cry and are crushed down here, God will give unto us His Mercy and lift us up and take us to Him.

He will not abandon us.

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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
Playing a stereotype Brazil?

That's what it's all about?
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Playing a stereotype Brazil?

That's what it's all about?
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OP to dumb to think for himself.
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Name one accomplishment greater than loving God? Go into the world, how many do you see that love him?

This task is rare for one to complete. The days of Noah..
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But when God suddenly finds it within his heart to forgive such a POS as yourself, then you just cry literally because you can't believe someone let alone the supreme being in the universe can find it within himself to love someone so desperately unworthy as yourself.

Am I right?

It's also the old technique of what do you think about when I tell you not to think of something?

God says,

Don't even THINK about sex before marriage.

So what torments you?

Sex and not having it.

So when you think about it so much you feel even more guilty and rely on God even more to help you with your own helplessness and extreme unworthiness.

Such a cycle.

Doesn't even matter that Jesus died for your sins, you are awashed with guilt your entire lives, rendering you basically ineffective your whole life to really accomplish anything.

Welcome to the matrix. It has you.

But then there is hope you think, since you can't do anything, your savior Neo is sure to be on his way. Keep dreaming. Keep waiting. Keep praying. Do nothing.

You'll soon see the Truth when no Rapture happens and you will suffer greatly on this earth. Just remember my words.
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Here you go buddy!

2 Corinthians 12:9
King James Bible
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
Then why don't I feel guilty, helpless and unworthy?

Hmm..your premise must be B.S
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
was my life pathetic before or after reading the bible?

this thread is confusing.

is my life pathetic either way and the bible is designed to make me feel bad about something i had no choice over and wouldn't feel bad about if i had never read it?
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I have spent my life in pain and confusion. But after reading it I finally have wisdom and understand peoples actions and really feel more liberated than ever. Nothing holds me back, but I have learned self control that has freed me from death and destructive acts.
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
You maybe should read the book for yourself because the book doesn't do any such thing.

Won't get into the people who interpret it and what they want to do with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28316289


I'm not going to argue with anybody on this. Because you're not at a point where you are willing to listen to the truth. But once you suffer a lot, then you'll be ready.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47010006


Most people find God because of the suffering they go through, because He offers refuge. He gives hope and the promise that evil will be defeated.

Believe me it has taken a lot of suffering from me to finally give up trying to fix things on my own. People can't get rid of the evil in the world but they can support and ask that of God who can. Read the bible seriously, and ask for comfort.

God bless.
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Because the suffering they go through are lies and darkness which draws them to the light and truth Jesus who only really knows how our emotions work.
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Thread is becoming good, let's star.
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Re: The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives
But the whole premise is based entirely on mythology.
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But the whole premise is based entirely on mythology.
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its like wholeheartedly believing that the Tooth Fairy is going to allow you to live forever. Super weird that so many believe this. Their desire to live forever must be what drives people to want to get into this. Interesting.

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