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The Bible: designed to keep you feeling guilty, helpless, and unworthy of anything your entire pathetic lives

 
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If I wanted to control millions of people I'd write the Bible...
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If I wanted to control millions of people I'd write the Bible...
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And if I was satan...

Thread: If I was satan and wanted to make people HATE God this would be the VERY FIRST THING on my agenda..
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This is not correct. Jesus is evident throughout the Scriptures, starting in Genesis. Read it all again. Pray and read and you'll get it.
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Show me Jesus in Genesis. Which chapter/verse?
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Genesis Verse 1: "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
John 1 and 10 and 14
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was in the world and the world was made through Him
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory.
You have to take the Bible as a whole. In the beginning, God created everything. We are told that the Word.. the Bible tells us here that Jesus is the Word... in the beginning was the Word...In the beginning was Jesus, the second person of the triune Godhead... read the Bible..you'll find that throughout. The world was made through Him.. Read it..it's very clear. He came down to our level, He lived with us, after He created everything.
Read the Old Testament with the pictures in mind that the New Testament reveal to us thatthe sacrifices and offerings of the OT were previews of Jesus death on calvary. Throughout the OT, you will see foreviews and pictures of the coming Jesus, the Christ of the New Testament.

One of the many clear pictures of Jesus in the OT is Isaiah 53: Read it carefully. It is the gospel in the Old Testament. It gives the gospel, the lamb of God offering Himself for the sins of mankind---700 years before He was born into the sorrows of this world. Right there in Isaiah, the gospel is described--God's plan of redemption and work of redemption. It is the glorious figure of Christ on the Cross...the only hope of mankind. The gospel of the New Testament is clearly given in the Old.
Throughout the Old Testament, the message is that someone is coming, who will take away our sin.... Jesus is pictured there from the first verse in Genesis throughout. Dig just a little, and you'll see. If you want to keep the blinders on, you will not see. Jesus said that people are deaf and blind because they want to be---because they do not want to see.
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There is nothing in Genesis that indicates a savior. The Word is God. No indication of a Son. Let US create...??? The others could be any entities, no mention specifically of a Son. Even with back references, Jesus Christ or any Son was not mentioned in Genesis.

Isiah??? You said Genesis and I asked that to prove that claim. Which you have not.

The old testament, with the exception of Psalms and a few prophecies was gloom and doom for anyone who dared cross the great almighty.
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Right. There's no mention of a son. Actually, "us" isn't what we think, either. Just as "we" wasn't used the same way.

"The majestic plural (pluralis maiestatis in Latin, literally, "the plural of majesty"), is the use of a plural pronoun to refer to a single person holding a high office, such as a monarch, bishop, or pope. It is also called the royal pronoun, the royal "we" or the Victorian "we". The more general word for the use of we to refer to oneself is nosism. However the use as majestic plural (to denote the excellence, power, and dignity of the person who speaks or writes) is the most common one."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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This is not correct. Jesus is evident throughout the Scriptures, starting in Genesis. Read it all again. Pray and read and you'll get it.
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Show me Jesus in Genesis. Which chapter/verse?
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Genesis Verse 1: "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
John 1 and 10 and 14
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was in the world and the world was made through Him
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory.
You have to take the Bible as a whole. In the beginning, God created everything. We are told that the Word.. the Bible tells us here that Jesus is the Word... in the beginning was the Word...In the beginning was Jesus, the second person of the triune Godhead... read the Bible..you'll find that throughout. The world was made through Him.. Read it..it's very clear. He came down to our level, He lived with us, after He created everything.
Read the Old Testament with the pictures in mind that the New Testament reveal to us thatthe sacrifices and offerings of the OT were previews of Jesus death on calvary. Throughout the OT, you will see foreviews and pictures of the coming Jesus, the Christ of the New Testament.

One of the many clear pictures of Jesus in the OT is Isaiah 53: Read it carefully. It is the gospel in the Old Testament. It gives the gospel, the lamb of God offering Himself for the sins of mankind---700 years before He was born into the sorrows of this world. Right there in Isaiah, the gospel is described--God's plan of redemption and work of redemption. It is the glorious figure of Christ on the Cross...the only hope of mankind. The gospel of the New Testament is clearly given in the Old.
Throughout the Old Testament, the message is that someone is coming, who will take away our sin.... Jesus is pictured there from the first verse in Genesis throughout. Dig just a little, and you'll see. If you want to keep the blinders on, you will not see. Jesus said that people are deaf and blind because they want to be---because they do not want to see.
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You need to read up on mistranslations. Some biggies there.
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Fwiw, I don't feel any guilt. I try to live a righteous life. Its all good.
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lol, and "pathetic life"? Mine is awesome, but I suspect someone's isn't
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It is my experience that people who lash out at God and the Bible are the ones suffering the most. They are jealous, envious, covetous people who cannot stand to see someone deal with life on life's terms and with the comfort of God and His Divine Word. So miserable as they are, they seek to cause as many as they can to question their faith. It must suck to be so miserable.

I love Jesus. I love the Bible. I love my life hf
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And the longer we love Him...the more that we learn about Him and from Him....the sweeter life is! How magnificent is our God! We cannot begin to comprehend His majesty and His secrets, but what He has disclosed to us is awesome!
Only that living relationship with our Lord can make life meaningful. If I were not written in the Book of Life, seeing all that is happening in this world right now, I would go hide under a rock somewhere---it would be frightening. But we know how history ends! We have the peace that surpasses all understanding....only because we know God.
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I learn more about the Tooth Fairy and her going rates and stuff, too, the more I love her. Oh, wait... that's just in my head? Hmmm... could I have been hearing voices this whole time? What's it called when people hear voices again...?
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Then why don't I feel guilty, helpless and unworthy?

Hmm..your premise must be B.S
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Because you're not believing hard enough, man! Put some feeling into now and one more time from the top! Almost got it!
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If it wasn't for meddling parents christianity would be half of what it is now. How many of you can actually say you found 'Jesus' all by yourself with not one bit of guidance from another? not many because it was engrained in you from birth from your parents. Learn to think for yourselves, it is more enlightening than anything you have experienced so far.
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I have spent my life in pain and delusion. But after reading it I finally have been brainwashed and understand peoples actions and really feel more liberated than ever. Nothing holds me back, but I have learned to obey orders that has freed me from liberty and happiness.
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Fixed.
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You maybe should read the book for yourself because the book doesn't do any such thing.

Won't get into the people who interpret it and what they want to do with it.
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I'm not going to argue with anybody on this. Because you're not at a point where you are willing to listen to the truth. But once you suffer a lot, then you'll be ready.
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You're not meant to understand the bible. It's intentional so that those with a hateful heart towards God will screw themselves. It's a type of foreshadow for the "great delusion" moron. Not to worry, you'll find out soon enough.
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You're not meant to understand your brainwashing. It's intentional so that people with brains can control you. Not to worry, you'll never find out.
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If it wasn't for meddling parents
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You mean your creators? Does being an asshole magically entitle you to the property of other people?
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But when God suddenly finds it within his heart to forgive such a POS as yourself, then you just cry literally because you can't believe someone let alone the supreme being in the universe can find it within himself to love someone so desperately unworthy as yourself.

Am I right?

It's also the old technique of what do you think about when I tell you not to think of something?

God says,

Don't even THINK about sex before marriage.

So what torments you?

Sex and not having it.

So when you think about it so much you feel even more guilty and rely on God even more to help you with your own helplessness and extreme unworthiness.

Such a cycle.

Doesn't even matter that Jesus died for your sins, you are awashed with guilt your entire lives, rendering you basically ineffective your whole life to really accomplish anything.

Welcome to the matrix. It has you.

But then there is hope you think, since you can't do anything, your savior Neo is sure to be on his way. Keep dreaming. Keep waiting. Keep praying. Do nothing.

You'll soon see the Truth when no Rapture happens and you will suffer greatly on this earth. Just remember my words.
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There is a particular reason why he says no sex before marriage though and it's not just to torment a person. The thing that does the tormenting is the lust and the flesh. Best thing is when you defeat that. Sex with random people has consequences, it's not just for pleasure. Many people have left a trail of destruction behind them from their sexual activity that distress many. There is things to be considered. Sex without marriage is nothing short of adultery basically.

When you are saved you will want to do his will. Even if you have temptations nothing is worth displeasing him. How do you know which commands are his? The bible teaches it a lot, and also your internal moral code that he gave you.

It all depends how much you want to know God and how close you want to be with God.
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And yet, here I am...having devoted my life to the God of the Bible...free, empowered, and worthy.

How dat hoppon?
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Mhm. Good sheep. It happened because you bought into the programming and feel what they wanted you to feel all along. That way you never question it because who questions the source of their happiness? Just keep filling their pockets and run along now. Nothing to see here.
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Prayer and faith says otherwise
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Delusion and believing in things for which there is no evidence says otherwise. Gotcha.
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If I wanted to control millions of people I'd write the Bible...
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You think you would. You think you could. But you don't think much.
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If it wasn't for meddling parents
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You mean your creators? Does being an asshole magically entitle you to the property of other people?
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No I meant meddling parents. I'm guessing, from the smell of butthurt, you had to follow christianity from birth.
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if you need to be "told" how to act and behave and have no clue about being kind and compassionate..maybe you should feel like a piece of crap.

You shouldn't need a post life reward just for being a decent species and citizen on the planet
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If it wasn't for meddling parents
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You mean your creators? Does being an asshole magically entitle you to the property of other people?
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No I meant meddling parents. I'm guessing, from the smell of butthurt, you had to follow christianity from birth.
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They say the Lord helps those who help themselves.

I wouldn't mind betting he forgives those who forgive themselves also.
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That's Fat guy from Austin theology, not found in the Book.
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Fwiw, I don't feel any guilt. I try to live a righteous life. Its all good.
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lol, and "pathetic life"? Mine is awesome, but I suspect someone's isn't
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It is my experience that people who lash out at God and the Bible are the ones suffering the most. They are jealous, envious, covetous people who cannot stand to see someone deal with life on life's terms and with the comfort of God and His Divine Word. So miserable as they are, they seek to cause as many as they can to question their faith. It must suck to be so miserable.

I love Jesus. I love the Bible. I love my life hf
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No. The ones who lash out at stupidity are those who are tired of living with cavemen and cavewomen running around pointing at the sky grunting "Jebus come! Jebus come!" because they sucked on one too many exhausts during their life. It's rather annoying after a while.
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But when God suddenly finds it within his heart to forgive such a POS as yourself, then you just cry literally because you can't believe someone let alone the supreme being in the universe can find it within himself to love someone so desperately unworthy as yourself.

Am I right?

It's also the old technique of what do you think about when I tell you not to think of something?

God says,

Don't even THINK about sex before marriage.

So what torments you?

Sex and not having it.

So when you think about it so much you feel even more guilty and rely on God even more to help you with your own helplessness and extreme unworthiness.

Such a cycle.

Doesn't even matter that Jesus died for your sins, you are awashed with guilt your entire lives, rendering you basically ineffective your whole life to really accomplish anything.

Welcome to the matrix. It has you.

But then there is hope you think, since you can't do anything, your savior Neo is sure to be on his way. Keep dreaming. Keep waiting. Keep praying. Do nothing.

You'll soon see the Truth when no Rapture happens and you will suffer greatly on this earth. Just remember my words.
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The bible gives you nothing but hope, thanksgiving and praise to the FATHER giving HIS SON to die for our sins and to send the HOLY SPIRIT to live with us and guide us. HE knows we can not live the perfect life and when we trust HIM, HE alone saves us, remembers our sins no more and that is a blessed hope!
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That is true for the New Testament (except Revelation), but the Old Testament is death for every offense. Disobey your daddy, death by stoning. Prostitute yourself, death, worship idols, death. Somom was tuened into glass.

Where is that hope again?
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This is not correct. Jesus is evident throughout the Scriptures, starting in Genesis. Read it all again. Pray and read and you'll get it.
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Talk to myself while I read?! The hell kind of shit is that?! If I ever answer myself...
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If it wasn't for meddling parents christianity would be half of what it is now. How many of you can actually say you found 'Jesus' all by yourself with not one bit of guidance from another? not many because it was engrained in you from birth from your parents. Learn to think for yourselves, it is more enlightening than anything you have experienced so far.
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And those of us that was brought up atheists?
Raised by morans like yourself, the "freethinkers" as you douchebags call yourself (never met a more enslaved group than you morans).

Exactly, you guys never think shit through you just keep on burping your party lines that your gurus feed you, you are what you claim you despise, enslaved.
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You maybe should read the book for yourself because the book doesn't do any such thing.

Won't get into the people who interpret it and what they want to do with it.
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We should brainwash ourselves? The hell kind of hippie shit is that a solution for?!
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Reading the bible has given me hope in fairy tales.
Studying the word has given me my master's direction.
Specific verses have given me encouragement to be a sheep.
Trusting in Jesus has given me strength to follow the crowd.
Asking God questions as I study has given me brainwashing.
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Fixed.
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If it wasn't for meddling parents christianity would be half of what it is now. How many of you can actually say you found 'Jesus' all by yourself with not one bit of guidance from another? not many because it was engrained in you from birth from your parents. Learn to think for yourselves, it is more enlightening than anything you have experienced so far.
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And those of us that was brought up atheists?
Raised by morans like yourself, the "freethinkers" as you douchebags call yourself (never met a more enslaved group than you morans).

Exactly, you guys never think shit through you just keep on burping your party lines that your gurus feed you, you are what you claim you despise, enslaved.
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Actually, I was brought up by parents who let me decide for myself. My mother thought christian schools taught the best so from the age of 5 to 16 thay were the schools I attended. I used to, on my own back, go and sit in mass every morning before school for years listening to sermons. I even told my mother at the age of 6 I wanted to be christian, she replied of course you can, as soon as you are old enough to decide that for yourself. I have great parents.
When I was 13 I decided not to, my choice with no outside influence.

I am betting you were christian from birth too.
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It does no such thing. I think what you write says more about you and how you feel than what the bible says.

The bible gives people a lot of comfort and promises that all the crap in the world will be resolved, and that God loves us enough to fix it for us. What more could anyone want?

There is no guarantee of rapture anyway but I care more about an end to all sin. And by that end all misery and hate. Read it you might be surprised.
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Right. We should all wait for somebody else to solve our problems for us because we're too lazy and/or inept to do it ourselves? That's called I-don't-wanna-grow-up-I'm-a-Toys-R-Us-Kid syndrome. Here's the problem: Magic man isn't coming. We fix our world for ourselves, which we fucked up ourselves, or we perish. How's that for get-off-your-ass-and-do-something-about-it motivation?
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Through Your precepts I get understanding;
Therefore I hate every false way.

Your word is a lamp to my feet
And a light to my path.



Psalm 119:104,105
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Its a waste of time trying to convince these feeble minded believers .They are hypnotized or something where they wont listen to logic .They are holding back the intelligence of mankind because they want a fairy tale to be true .They judge everyone but themselves and are arrogant thinking that there god is the true god and any other belief will result in hell.
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But the whole premise is based entirely on mythology.
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its like wholeheartedly believing that the Tooth Fairy is going to allow you to live forever. Super weird that so many believe this. Their desire to live forever must be what drives people to want to get into this. Interesting.
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Correct, the bible is a bullshit fairy tale designed to rule through fear and guilt. Notice how the main character, the made up "jesus" (the mystical, magical, invisible wizard...) never shows up...that's a real problem for ANY credibility. What a bunch of mind control bullshit. WIth their magical cookie eucharist...brought to you by a bunch of creepy, pedophilic con-men dressed in gay halloween capes and RIDICULOUS gold cones with creepy luciferian fish engrams on theie idiotic heads. Then they stick that extended handle basket in front of everyone so they PUT THEIR MONEY IN IT. Do the math.
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Right. We should all wait for somebody else to solve our problems for us because we're too lazy and/or inept to do it ourselves? That's called I-don't-wanna-grow-up-I'm-a-Toys-R-Us-Kid syndrome. Here's the problem: Magic man isn't coming. We fix our world for ourselves, which we fucked up ourselves, or we perish. How's that for get-off-your-ass-and-do-something-about-it motivation?
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We don't fix shit. none of us. Ever.
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You can tell what kind of believers Unbelievers are when they insult every believer in every post. They are rotten fucks with no help for their rottenness.
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Fixed. Brain ahead of fingers.

You can tell what kind of people Unbelievers are when they insult every believer in every post. They are rotten fucks with no help for their rottenness.
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