Astronomer talking about ISON: unchanged magnitude for 4 month period. | |
Solar Guardian User ID: 46520617 Malaysia 09/19/2013 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Magnitude didn't change because it's a spaceship, duh! Last Edited by Solar Guardian on 09/19/2013 03:21 AM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24274756 United States 09/19/2013 03:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON discovered almost 1 year ago, and for a third of that time the magnitude did not change (according to this astronomer). how can this be possible since its been heading our way inbound towards the sun ever since it was spotted? |
Comperio User ID: 47077108 Denmark 09/19/2013 04:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | says ison is the oldest ortt cloud comet and the magnitude didnt change for a 132 day period as it approachs our sun... "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Never lose a holy curiosity. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." Albert Einstein |
Kageki User ID: 12960500 United States 09/19/2013 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interestingly that is one theory. Hoagland speculated that Phobos was a spacecraft. "Daniel" suggested that arks from the bible were spacecraft with asteroids being a perfect pre-built craft. I suppose it's possible. [link to www.whatdoesitmean.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46911537 United States 09/19/2013 06:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How would he know exactly that ISON is the oldest comet from the Oort Cloud? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15783800 The whole concept of an "Oort Cloud" is pure speculation, as are "black holes," "dark matter," "The Big Bang" and any other number of the assumptions of THEORETICAL PHYSICS trumpeted, routinely, as accepted fact. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47100660 United States 09/19/2013 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How would he know exactly that ISON is the oldest comet from the Oort Cloud? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15783800 The whole concept of an "Oort Cloud" is pure speculation, as are "black holes," "dark matter," "The Big Bang" and any other number of the assumptions of THEORETICAL PHYSICS trumpeted, routinely, as accepted fact. but that "all seeing man in the sky watching everything you do" that's real huh....LOL |
Sword of mercy User ID: 4492402 United Kingdom 09/19/2013 06:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The magnitude, obviously, should have increased by now. That is weird.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46911537 Maybe something to due with velocity vector. Magnitude does not increase even though the object is in motion. Long time since i did physics though. Last Edited by Sword of mercy on 09/19/2013 06:33 AM "Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! " |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46911537 United States 09/19/2013 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How would he know exactly that ISON is the oldest comet from the Oort Cloud? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15783800 The whole concept of an "Oort Cloud" is pure speculation, as are "black holes," "dark matter," "The Big Bang" and any other number of the assumptions of THEORETICAL PHYSICS trumpeted, routinely, as accepted fact. but that "all seeing man in the sky watching everything you do" that's real huh....LOL Yes. |
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Solar Guardian User ID: 46520617 Malaysia 09/19/2013 06:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't assume that too early...... Astro might be the one proven wrong...... |
Comperio User ID: 47077108 Denmark 09/19/2013 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | However - this astronomer is just stating the facts he observes - so you cant really contradict that. Of course you can go ad hominem or you can try to disprove - but until that these observations must prevail. "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Never lose a holy curiosity. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." Albert Einstein |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46653440 Australia 09/19/2013 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps for the same reason as the sun is quiet now during it's active period: The brown dwarf. Thread: ISON; THE WINGED ONE, NEW IMAGES...WOW THIS THING IS HUGE The brown dwarf is behind Comet Ison in the same way it was behind Comet Holmes when it outburst in 2007 Thread: Is the Blue/Red Kachina prophecy being fulfilled??? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44517098 United States 09/19/2013 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps for the same reason as the sun is quiet now during it's active period: The brown dwarf. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46653440 Thread: ISON; THE WINGED ONE, NEW IMAGES...WOW THIS THING IS HUGE The brown dwarf is behind Comet Ison in the same way it was behind Comet Holmes when it outburst in 2007 Thread: Is the Blue/Red Kachina prophecy being fulfilled??? ISON is 3 miles wide, a brown dwarf would be at minimum larger than the earth..... If you can show me how to hide an elephant behind a toothpick then you may be onto something. |
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Karlos User ID: 6532260 United Kingdom 09/19/2013 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been out of the science scene for a while ever since I realized modern day science is full of it. But what exactly is "magnitude", are we talking about mass here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17852775 brightness, i think correct, brightness of the object Yes. Specifically, the brightness we see, which is affected by distance, as well as the intrinsic brightness of the object. An increase of one magnitude equates to about 2½ times as bright (2.512 to be exact) 2 magnitudes = about 6.3 x as bright 3 magnitudes = about 16 x as bright 4 magnitudes = about 40 x as bright An increase of 5 magnitudes is 100 times as bright. And magnitude figures go DOWN as brightness INCREASES. The dimmest stars you can see by naked-eye from a dark rural site are about magnitude 6 The brightest stars are magnitude 1 or less Venus is about -4 (minus four) Full Moon is about -13 The Sun is about - 27 The 14 magnitude difference between the Full Moon and the Sun, equates to about 400,000 x the brightness ISON is currently at about 11.7, and I can remember only a few weeks ago it was at about 12.5 A difference of 0.8 magnitude - which is about twice as bright. |