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Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!

 
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Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
Why is Robert C. Hoagland? quiet? - Why is Dr ASTRO so keen for you watch his ISON sky watch channel? - What are NASA'S 200 plus ISON team doing?


I decided to dig down to the facts of all of this nonsense...

And this is what I found.

NASA named ISON very early on as the Comet of a Civilisation, this is a fact!

It was claimed to have been detected by two Russians on 21st September 2012 when it was at 5.85AU distance from the Sun and at a magnitude of 18.8.

It was recorded at the time of discovery as being 4.8Km in diameter.

It's brightness has not increased within the last 4 months?

And NASA have not released any images within this same time frame?


So, for a comparison I did a check on Comet Hale Bopp's statistics. 


Now this Comet was visible from Earth without visual aides for around 18 months, it was detected when it was 7.2AU which was around 200,000,000 miles further away than ISON, having a magnitude of 10.5, which means it was a lot brighter than ISON and a diameter estimated between 40Km to 80Km which made it HUGE in comparison to ISON but THIS COMET was simply labeled as the Great Comet of 1997? - So nothing too special then? 

So in summary, Comet ISON was both smaller, weaker in luminosity and yet CLOSER to us when first observed compared to Hale Bopp was but still given this awesome Comet of a Civilisation label... But why??

It only makes sense if they WANT you to look in that direction and no where else, in fact even the other TWO Comets Encke and Lovejoy happen to be exactly in the same part of the sky at exactly the same time!!!

Every amateur astronomer is poised waiting to see it!

It all makes for a great show with perfect stage misdirection... But from what?


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Re: Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
Interesting thoughts, whilst I hate to bring up Elenin it seems to be the same situation.. Hype up an object to distract from the real danger.

If anyone seriously believes the naming of Elenin was chance then think again. To name a comet with the popular abbreviation for extinction level event was a psychological experiment to test reaction. Like when our government runs drills and then strangely on that day we are attacked..
Think about the Russian meter which happened on the same day as another NEO was passing earth. All tests in manipulation and feat..

Once we stop believing the terrorism crap, space threats will be the cash cow for multinationals.. How easy would it be for NASA to say there is meteor heading to earth! Give us all your money so we can stop it (unless it is heading for Syria then we will let it smash them all to pieces to ironically save civilians)
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Re: Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
Robert C. Hoagland Says "Ison - Nothing to worry about"

Huh??

This is the same guy who was all over Elenin!!

So what does he know?

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Re: Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
Interestingly enough no one is trying to debunk this theory!

Now, I wonder why??

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Re: Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
It is Richard C Hoagland and you may be right.
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for more info since i'm not aware on all this, i know some parts, but too chaotic to remember all.
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Re: Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
Interestingly enough no one is trying to debunk this theory!

Now, I wonder why??

spock
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Sometimes... you just get debunked-out.
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Re: Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
What do you have to support your claims?
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They are getting ready for the feast!
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and then there was this!!

[link to www.google.co.uk]

[link to postimg.org]
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What do you have to support your claims?
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It's all out there on the net just go look it up!

I'll give you the first bit free...

[link to solarsystem.nasa.gov]

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Re: Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
Interestingly enough no one is trying to debunk this theory!

Now, I wonder why??

spock
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Don't worry. ASStroll will be here in a second to fuck up your thread. They pay him to do that after all ;)
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Re: Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
First off, ISON wasn't named Comet of a Civilization but rather "Once in a Civilization Comet".

Source: [link to blogs.scientificamerican.com]

Secondly, NASA's first image of ISON was in April; you can see it here: [link to en.es-static.us]

So not really disputing much. But you're emphasizing the comet's nickname and that's wrong and can definitely be misinterpreted.

Cheers.
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09/19/2013 05:16 PM
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About time someone caught on! Some think it is "I Son" predicting the return of Christ. However I believe it is "Eyes On". Meaning look over here. We should turn our scopes in a different direction now.
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Re: Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
First off, ISON wasn't named Comet of a Civilization but rather "Once in a Civilization Comet".

Source: [link to blogs.scientificamerican.com]

Secondly, NASA's first image of ISON was in April; you can see it here: [link to en.es-static.us]

So not really disputing much. But you're emphasizing the comet's nickname and that's wrong and can definitely be misinterpreted.

Cheers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47104165


Sorry, there's that word Civilisation again!!

You can wrap it any way you want pal, but it still comes down to the same thing...

MISDIRECTION!!


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Its the lizard races party soon.
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Re: Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
It's brightness has not increased within the last 4 months?

And NASA have not released any images within this same time frame?


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Because its a fake space stupid story like many others.

Nothing to see here.
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Re: Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
First off, ISON wasn't named Comet of a Civilization but rather "Once in a Civilization Comet".

Source: [link to blogs.scientificamerican.com]

Secondly, NASA's first image of ISON was in April; you can see it here: [link to en.es-static.us]

So not really disputing much. But you're emphasizing the comet's nickname and that's wrong and can definitely be misinterpreted.

Cheers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47104165


Sorry, there's that word Civilisation again!!

You can wrap it any way you want pal, but it still comes down to the same thing...

MISDIRECTION!!


spock
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I think you'll find April was FIVE months ago at the last count!

spock
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It's brightness has not increased within the last 4 months?

And NASA have not released any images within this same time frame?


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Because its a fake space stupid story like many others.

Nothing to see here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47122417


NO it can't be fake IF you can see it but it could be a cleverly choreographed misdirection for something they don't want you to see till it's far too late!!

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Are you traking it?. nobodys is doing it because its a fake story.
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Are you traking it?. nobodys is doing it because its a fake story.
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I am in contact with a professional astronomer who is supposed to be tracking it but I'm still waiting to see the current images he's promised me!

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What if they bomb the heck out of the earth and say it's the debris from ISON? There you go, manual reset, debt forgiveness, personal assets and guns confiscated in the name of emergency, all thanks to a not-so-bright and not-so-close comet.

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There are just some fake crap photoshopped image of it. Ask Astroliar for that...
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My Uncle Brian who works at the Kremlin heard a rumor circulating that ISON is Hitlers lost testicle.
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There are just some fake crap photoshopped image of it. Ask Astroliar for that...
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Well you could be right but we need to see the current images from an independent source to be sure!

ASTRO is connected to NASA, he's already admitted that previously so he's part of the play and cannot be trusted!!

He will simply lead you down a blind alley...

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Astroliar is just a bot.
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Astroliar is just a bot.
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He has access to a lot of data and was sent here to gain the trust of the many. He's succeeded in this task I would say as many follow him like lemmings of a cliff...

Don't be fooled by Dr A.

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Re: Comet ISON - So, what's the REAL DEAL here???? Smoke and Mirror brigade strikes again!!!
Between 1997 and now things have become way more sensationalist to grab peoples attention hence the comet of a civilization quote, that is all.
Telling it like it is since 2013
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Between 1997 and now things have become way more sensationalist to grab peoples attention hence the comet of a civilization quote, that is all.
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I agree! But why would you need to say it about THIS one when you have another TWO to choose from and neither of the have been so labeled??

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There are just some fake crap photoshopped image of it. Ask Astroliar for that...
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Well you could be right but we need to see the current images from an independent source to be sure!

ASTRO is connected to NASA, he's already admitted that previously so he's part of the play and cannot be trusted!!

He will simply lead you down a blind alley...

spock
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Here Op a new photo

September 17: Brightening... gradually. The image below, taken this morning by Alfons Diepvens in Belgium...

[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]
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Between 1997 and now things have become way more sensationalist to grab peoples attention hence the comet of a civilization quote, that is all.
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I agree! But why would you need to say it about THIS one when you have another TWO to choose from and neither of the have been so labeled??

spock
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Prob because ISON best chance of visibility etc
Telling it like it is since 2013

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