GOP bill to cut 40 Billion dollars in FOOD STAMPS! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46324403 United States 09/19/2013 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.usnews.com] Quoting: Melrox "It's welfare reform 2.0. It is pretty exciting," says Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., one lawmaker who has been pushing to chop $40 billion from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, during the next 10 years. "I think it is a very compassionate approach, targeting and reforming food stamps from being a way of life." Who said anything about a 'way-of-life'? What's so 'very compassionate' about this? Some people DO use it as a way of life. Some people don't. The welfare system was created as a temporary assistance program. Unfortunately, it has become a permanent way of life for loafers. No one wants to kick down those that absolutely need assistance. But when able-bodied people use it as an end goal, it becomes a drain on everyone else footing the bill. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47107726 Thailand 09/19/2013 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, they're going to cut the SNAP program, and implement Obamacare at the same time? So for people who actually need help, they are going to be stretching it even farther just to pay for health care....Am I getting this right? Quoting: ladycaska 46231600 Turn off the TV, and click away from the left-wing blogs. They are making you stupider by taking away your ability to think critically. |
AA User ID: 47096534 United States 09/19/2013 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a very simple formula, anyone that needs food stamps is arguing for them and people who don't yet are against them. When a person who doesn't becomes a person who does, his position will change like the weather What I want to know is ow long any of you think your going to be able to hold on to what you have in this economy, which is essentially gutting the middle class tat almost all of us belong to and creating two classes instead of three. None of you posting here are in the upper crust. You ave to pay taxes that fund te government entitlements programs and the upper crust doesn't, that's why your pissed off about people getting food stamps. I think people capable of working who are on any kind of entitlement program should be put to work doing something that needs to be done to earn the money instead of just giving out handouts. It would be better for them and for the rest of us. But that makes to much sense to get past a politician. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47111918 United States 09/19/2013 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something should be done for sure.There are people getting them because they are really in need esp the elderly.But massive abuse for sure.(CAPS INTENTIONAL) CONSIDER THIS--ILLEGAL IN WHATEVER LAND :)) GETS A TEXT MESSAGE FROM HIS RELATIVE FROM HIS SAFELINK FREE PHONE(THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE REGAN)-"get to the states ASAP-gringos give you every thing for free-phone food -every thing-you can stay at our Casa- they pay the rent.We have room we are only 16 people in this place-plenty of room for your family.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11309020 United States 09/19/2013 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prosecute Wall St to the maximum amount.. the Trillions of dollars that are made and swapped in illegal trades and actions... of course that will not ever happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989 Tax revenues are way down for one real, the mega predatory capitalists are working very hard to keep all the moneys locked behind vaults and not out in circulation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989 600 Billion per year for a DoD that wastes trillions in a four year span... for that money ever man, women, and child that resides in the USA would eat like kings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989 But no, the time will come though, if peoploe get hunger enough, the Rich will be eaten... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989 |
AA User ID: 47096534 United States 09/19/2013 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something should be done for sure.There are people getting them because they are really in need esp the elderly.But massive abuse for sure.(CAPS INTENTIONAL) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47111918 CONSIDER THIS--ILLEGAL IN WHATEVER LAND :)) GETS A TEXT MESSAGE FROM HIS RELATIVE FROM HIS SAFELINK FREE PHONE(THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE REGAN)-"get to the states ASAP-gringos give you every thing for free-phone food -every thing-you can stay at our Casa- they pay the rent.We have room we are only 16 people in this place-plenty of room for your family.. We have a lot of Mexicans pouring in to my area and the first thing they do when they get here is find a job. I don't get the stereotype put on them as being parasitic leeches. I think you might have them confused wit JEWS |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45961294 United States 09/19/2013 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47058396 Who said anything about a 'way-of-life'? What's so 'very compassionate' about this? The Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot. AGAIN! You can hear the democrats now: "SEE, SEE? They fell all over themselves to give TRILLIONS to the BANKERS and WALL STREET, but pinch pennies when it comes to the poor." They don't pick their battles well, and they reinforce every negative stereotype every chance they get. If they keep it up, they will blow 2014. There's much truth in the reply. Thinking like that in the first post I quoted, while it is certainly correct, results in sacred cows. The creation of sacred cows, things too sacred to touch, are the exact thing liberals depend on when expanding the government's control over the people. If Republicans stop fighting the creation and maintenance of these socialist sacred cows, they may pick up a few votes from the people who worship them. However, they'll lose the votes from the people who sent them to Washington to kill and eat those sacred cows. Presumably, the latter group is more numerous, accounting for why they got elected in the first place. Seems a pretty simple choice to me, despite the fact that you'll never read about this choice in the LMSM. There is a time and a place and a WAY to do everything. Right now, the object is to TAKE THE SENATE. Until then, if you want to take on the welfare state, take on aspects of it that EVERYONE can agree on. WASTE and FRAUD. Good Lord, there is enough waste and fraud in government to retire the national debt. Take the Senate. THEN start whittling away at the welfare state. I don't know why I care anymore. There are only a handful of Congressmen that are worth a dime anyway. |
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Hard Eight User ID: 35278639 United States 09/19/2013 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | USDA partnering with Mexico to boost food stamp participation The Mexican government has been working with the United States Department of Agriculture to increase participation in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), or food stamps. USDA has an agreement with Mexico to promote American food assistance programs, including food stamps, among Mexican Americans, Mexican nationals and migrant communities in America. [link to dailycaller.com] Judicial Watch today released documents detailing how the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) is working with the Mexican government to promote participation by illegal aliens in the U.S. food stamp program. [link to www.judicialwatch.org] Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47107726 Thailand 09/19/2013 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a very simple formula, anyone that needs food stamps is arguing for them and people who don't yet are against them. When a person who doesn't becomes a person who does, his position will change like the weather...etc. Quoting: AA 47096534 When the last company I worked for went bust, they gave me a form I could use to apply for unemployment. I framed it, hung it on my wall, then started my own business. Never took one cent from the government. The implied warrant in your statement is that people who are in favor of reducing the food stamp program by this minuscule amount ($4 billion per year out of $83 billion)want to cancel it. That is nonsense. If people really need it they should have it. However, when more than 100 million people receive government food assistance, a number greater than the total number of full-time private sector workers in the US, it becomes pretty clear that the government's priorities need to shift from creating dependency to creating jobs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47107726 Thailand 09/19/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45961294 The Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot. AGAIN! You can hear the democrats now: "SEE, SEE? They fell all over themselves to give TRILLIONS to the BANKERS and WALL STREET, but pinch pennies when it comes to the poor." They don't pick their battles well, and they reinforce every negative stereotype every chance they get. If they keep it up, they will blow 2014. There's much truth in the reply. Thinking like that in the first post I quoted, while it is certainly correct, results in sacred cows. The creation of sacred cows, things too sacred to touch, are the exact thing liberals depend on when expanding the government's control over the people. If Republicans stop fighting the creation and maintenance of these socialist sacred cows, they may pick up a few votes from the people who worship them. However, they'll lose the votes from the people who sent them to Washington to kill and eat those sacred cows. Presumably, the latter group is more numerous, accounting for why they got elected in the first place. Seems a pretty simple choice to me, despite the fact that you'll never read about this choice in the LMSM. There is a time and a place and a WAY to do everything. Right now, the object is to TAKE THE SENATE. Until then, if you want to take on the welfare state, take on aspects of it that EVERYONE can agree on. WASTE and FRAUD. Good Lord, there is enough waste and fraud in government to retire the national debt. Take the Senate. THEN start whittling away at the welfare state. Also, won't that make it easier for the sheep to fall for the argument that it proves that there's no difference between Democrats and Republicans any more? BTW, that argument is floated by liberals to try to fool the sheep into voting for Democrats since the sheep falsely believe there is no real choice, you do realize that I hope. And they are the ones who stand by their principles I assume. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47107726 Thailand 09/19/2013 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prosecute Wall St to the maximum amount.. the Trillions of dollars that are made and swapped in illegal trades and actions... of course that will not ever happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989 Tax revenues are way down for one real, the mega predatory capitalists are working very hard to keep all the moneys locked behind vaults and not out in circulation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989 600 Billion per year for a DoD that wastes trillions in a four year span... for that money ever man, women, and child that resides in the USA would eat like kings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989 But no, the time will come though, if peoploe get hunger enough, the Rich will be eaten... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989 |
Saddletramp User ID: 736749 Puerto Rico 09/19/2013 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lot of waste in that system... People buying shit they shouldn't be from fast food joints and liquor stores... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Saddletramp User ID: 736749 Puerto Rico 09/19/2013 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | USDA partnering with Mexico to boost food stamp participation Quoting: Hard Eight The Mexican government has been working with the United States Department of Agriculture to increase participation in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), or food stamps. USDA has an agreement with Mexico to promote American food assistance programs, including food stamps, among Mexican Americans, Mexican nationals and migrant communities in America. [link to dailycaller.com] Judicial Watch today released documents detailing how the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) is working with the Mexican government to promote participation by illegal aliens in the U.S. food stamp program. [link to www.judicialwatch.org] I've known about that story for awhile, and it just pisses me off to no end... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Saddletramp User ID: 736749 Puerto Rico 09/19/2013 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CUT ALL SPENDING; PERIOD. Suspend Congressional pay; military contracts; foreign aid; and, the salaries of all government workers. Quoting: Elsabiades.. THIS^^^ Shut it down until they learn how to balance a check book... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43634091 United States 09/19/2013 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prosecute Wall St to the maximum amount.. the Trillions of dollars that are made and swapped in illegal trades and actions... of course that will not ever happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989 Tax revenues are way down for one real, the mega predatory capitalists are working very hard to keep all the moneys locked behind vaults and not out in circulation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989 600 Billion per year for a DoD that wastes trillions in a four year span... for that money ever man, women, and child that resides in the USA would eat like kings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989 But no, the time will come though, if peoploe get hunger enough, the Rich will be eaten... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989 gtfo thailand shill. [link to www.usgovernmentspending.com] |
Saddletramp User ID: 736749 Puerto Rico 09/19/2013 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the Federal Government shut down tomorrow, the only thing in my life that would be different is that I wouldn't get mail... And I'm sure FedEx could pick up the slack... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
its a wally world wonder User ID: 47109871 United States 09/19/2013 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so as jp morgan, chase and wallmart nose dive into the financial cement so does EBT how interesting....... whats da matta con-greese they no want to pay into it no more??..... funny thing is, when its gone who will the mid class blame for taking all their money because it will still happen the same after ebt is gone who i wonder the poor will still be poor, the mid class will still get raped and the corporations responsible will still print money while laughing at the them both..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42067627 United States 09/19/2013 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about prohibiting the use of food stamps to buy soda, junk food and other non-food items? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39188864 yes, soda, candy bars, gum???, birthday cakes....I even watched some lady buying dog food because the supermarket had the dog food somehow misappropriated in the system as food. Now that is NOT a fucking mistake that is fraud on the supermarket....some say even some stores allow diapers. Nobody is watching the farm here folks! This. There's a small store in my town that lets people buy cigs. and alcohol with food cards too. They just ring it up under "Food" in the cash register. It's sickening. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44046199 United States 09/19/2013 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know how manny families will be affected by this? How many children ? The mentality that everybody that is lazy takes food stamps is ridiculous! Do you know how many families have lost everything and that is their only meal until they get better? It happened to me ! To proud ,I can survive and I did ,but there was a time in between that I needed help, for my children and my sanity and their health! It lasted until I found work ', but for 4 months that help me, and I am greatful. They maybe don't care they have money, they will never be hungry or the doctor go to their house,they have insurance paid by us! Heck yea I am grateful.what they are doing is wrong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1474063 United States 09/19/2013 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about getting some decent jobs for these people - in !968 minimum wage was $1.60 an hour - In todays money that would be $10.40 - SO minimum wage is what $7.50 now - Looks like thay have not kept up cost of living increases. So if they think that 7.50 can support a family good luck...maybe the GOP should live off of todays minimum wage for a few months so they can see how these people live. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2417276 United States 09/19/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about getting some decent jobs for these people - in !968 minimum wage was $1.60 an hour - In todays money that would be $10.40 - SO minimum wage is what $7.50 now - Looks like thay have not kept up cost of living increases. So if they think that 7.50 can support a family good luck...maybe the GOP should live off of todays minimum wage for a few months so they can see how these people live. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1474063 Maybe the fed should stop devaluing the dollar so all our money goes further. Maybe people should take responsibility for their actions and not breed them if you can't feed them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43634091 United States 09/19/2013 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | gtfo thailand shill. [link to www.usgovernmentspending.com] where u at now thailand shill??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47052551 United States 09/19/2013 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First, liberal propaganda debunk: The stated amount of the proposed cut is the sum over a 10-year period, meaning the proposed cut is $4 billion out of $83 billion, or around 5%. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47107726 The food stamp program was $40 billion per year smaller in 2008, and I don't seem to remember millions of people starving in the streets back then. Are we now supposed to believe that cutting the program from $83 billion to $80 billion will have any real negative effect on anyone? Doesn't the Democrat response to this proposed cut sorta raise a question about the supposed "economic recovery" being touted in the LMSM? If the economy was actually recovering, shouldn't we expect fewer and fewer people to need assistance? To me, it is a direct admission that the Democrats know damn well that their economic agenda has failed, kinda like Bernanke announcing that he was "just kidding" about tapering QE. That was a REAL doozy: QE hasn't worked, so we can't stop it now. Only a liberal could use that sort pretzel logic. And always does. With the Fed printing more money we will get more inflation. The freeloaders will get LESS for their free money! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46423420 United States 09/19/2013 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They need to be job creating as no one likes food stamps. I haven't heard a single person saying I need t quit my full time job making 15 an hour so I can get food stamps. WalMart needs to change being able to not mak eyou full time and increase to what they pay in Australia for minimum wages there. These rip off fast foods with housing costs those with children can't make it on miniumum wage and their 25 or at most 30 allowed to work and not cooperating with second job times. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4047465 United States 09/19/2013 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a very simple formula, anyone that needs food stamps is arguing for them and people who don't yet are against them. When a person who doesn't becomes a person who does, his position will change like the weather...etc. Quoting: AA 47096534 When the last company I worked for went bust, they gave me a form I could use to apply for unemployment. I framed it, hung it on my wall, then started my own business. Never took one cent from the government. The implied warrant in your statement is that people who are in favor of reducing the food stamp program by this minuscule amount ($4 billion per year out of $83 billion)want to cancel it. That is nonsense. If people really need it they should have it. However, when more than 100 million people receive government food assistance, a number greater than the total number of full-time private sector workers in the US, it becomes pretty clear that the government's priorities need to shift from creating dependency to creating jobs. And how many of those 100 million people are the working poor? Why don't we just cut the whole program and save that $85 billion a year for something else. Who cares that any impacts in funding to the program will result in direct job losses for those in the food industry whether it be production, distribution or retailing. In fact many of those who would lose their jobs due to a cut in food aid would most likely be those already receiving food aid as working poor. But that's ok these people should get out there and start a business because ended up jobless with no food will certainly motivate them. Also who cares if everyone else has to now bag their own groceries cause stores laid off the worker who used to do it. And what's paying 20% more in food costs for everyone else who doesn't receive food assistance matter. I'm sure people will be able to just absorb the added costs now that food subsidies no longer exist. Oh that's right even if you don't receive food stamps your food costs are still being subsidized whether or not you realize it by the added purchasing power of everyone else that does. And explain again how exactly you want the government to create jobs?? Kind of ironic that you seem anti government social welfare programs the government shouldn't be protecting people after all, but you want the government to create jobs?? The private sector should be creating the jobs not the government. Why don't expand your business since it's so easy economically out there nowadays. You could hire on some workers and pay them a living wage, show them what it's like to work hard and succeed with ease. Or you could pay them minimum wage, have the government subsidize their food and health care costs, all while you collect larger profits for yourself. |
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