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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47119124 New Zealand 09/19/2013 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I do agree with cutting off the dole and letting the chips fall where they may I find it ironic that a "royal" is proposing this since all royals are nothing but a bunch of suck ass leeches. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46992274 I'm all for giving America back to the Native Americas, Australia back to the aborigines, Africa back to the Africans and letting the chips fall where they may. It's all stolen. I find it ironic that those who are most against taxation, because taxation is thief(which it is), a moan and whine about those receiving the dole, yet don't agree that property is thief(Which it is) and compensating those who they've stolen land off or have received stolen land from those who've stolen it. The dole could be thought of as receiving compensation for letting others use their share of the natural resources. It just shows how animalistic humans really are, pissing all over the place to mark their so called terroitory. Oh, heck no, we ain't giving America back to the Indians, now, you bloody Kiwi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Easy for you to say..... you don't live here...... Oh yeah, there was unneccessary cruelty on BOTH sides over here....lest we forget. Indians have their own share of atrocities and massacres to worry about, too, lest we forget. And most of them were nomadic.....did not reside in onme place for long.....so the many claims of land ownership were blah....anyway. Speak for yourself. And do you really claim the land you're on, is is allodial title or fee simple(fief). You may find that not many people own land at all. All land in NZ is claimed by the Crown, which is listed as a corporation on the SEC, no one in NZ owns land, they simply have title(fee simple) of it. Like a child doesn't own their room in a families house, they just possess it. In FACT, people in NZ fit the definition of the word SLAVE as defined in the Crimes Act 1961 Section 98. So, what claim of right do those who claim land have, NONE, all LAND is stolen, thieves, scumbags. The Indians knew it, thats why they didn't have a concept of ownership of land until the GREEDY DEMON scumbags from Europe came over a FUCKED THEM IN THE ARSE. HUMANS ARE PIECES OF SHIT. |
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trixagus horni User ID: 41318854 Netherlands 09/19/2013 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to blogs.lse.ac.uk] Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. (Friedrich Nietzsche) |
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optimum judgment User ID: 24021617 United Kingdom 09/19/2013 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree completely. But people have always been 'owned' by other people. Having leaders and laws. Without them...it will be chaos? I wonder. Yes there should be leaders and laws but leaders who work FOR the people not themselves power should be decentralised between the people into smaller groups that the PEOPLE ultimately control so no act against the people can go unanswered or unseen and no one group can claim ownership. every thing should be decided by the will of the people as a whole not one group alone,every one should be able to affect change for the good of the people... A guy from tv says it best i think you may konw him... THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW |
Born in a Hurricane User ID: 12984811 United States 09/19/2013 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crazy people never question the world or their sanity. |
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trixagus horni User ID: 41318854 Netherlands 09/19/2013 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting thread. So you don't like muslims and you don't like socialism. So you want the rich to stay rich and so on? Is being social a part of socialisme? Is being social a part of capitalisme? What is 'being social'? In our country, like the OP (from Belgium what does he know) said, our welfare state is collapsing. We have to take care of our family, our neighbours, the entire neighbourhood. In the meanwhile we pay more taxes and have less money to spend. What kind of 'isme' is that? Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. (Friedrich Nietzsche) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27992199 Finland 09/19/2013 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About time the leaches work instead of sucking on the tax payer funded teets Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45925645 This! Yes, it would be awesome to see nations to be liberated from the leeches, all 'monarchy', unemployed and disabled people, government and city bureaucrats and workers, army, police, firemen, governmental funded hospitals and doctors, maintenance- and road guys etc would finally had to build their own companies or go work for private sector so there would be no taxes anywhere. Also there would be a shit load of less meaningless jobs. |
Don't tase me bro User ID: 45125822 Thailand 09/19/2013 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I do agree with cutting off the dole and letting the chips fall where they may I find it ironic that a "royal" is proposing this since all royals are nothing but a bunch of suck ass leeches. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46992274 somebody got to be the boss man... Last Edited by Mionel Landrake on 09/19/2013 07:46 PM |
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trixagus horni User ID: 41318854 Netherlands 09/19/2013 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... I agree completely. But people have always been 'owned' by other people. Having leaders and laws. Without them...it will be chaos? I wonder. Yes there should be leaders and laws but leaders who work FOR the people not themselves power should be decentralised between the people into smaller groups that the PEOPLE ultimately control so no act against the people can go unanswered or unseen and no one group can claim ownership. every thing should be decided by the will of the people as a whole not one group alone,every one should be able to affect change for the good of the people... A guy from tv says it best i think you may konw him... THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW But the power is already decentralised in a lot of countries. Still no power for the people even if they tried to give it to them. Blabla. It doesn't work. Did you see my link? Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. (Friedrich Nietzsche) |
trixagus horni User ID: 41318854 Netherlands 09/19/2013 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kings do not give up their castles, or gold, or hookers, or land or anything else. They can't afford to give out free shit and its what the US should be doing as well. Quoting: Mukk1234 Indeed. They rather spend their precious money on poisoned hamburgers... Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. (Friedrich Nietzsche) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47013482 United States 09/19/2013 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was all the 3rd world muslim imports the killed the goose with the golden egg. The nation wreckers promote multiculturalism and poof the system collapses. The Dutch did a good thing creating a safety net for THEIR people but unfortunately the system was abused. It looks as though the Church must step in and again fill the roll that socialist government took away, assist the poor. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47119124 New Zealand 09/19/2013 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But people have always been 'owned' by other people. Having leaders and laws. Without them...it will be chaos? Quoting: trixagus horni I wonder. People haven't always been 'owed' by other people, people have claimed ownership of other people. But that is only a claim. Legislation is the framework within which citizens 'consent' to be governed(owned, controlled). Democratic theory is that having elected their legislators citizens 'CONSENT' to abide by those legislation's made on their behalf. So those who don't vote, don't enrol, DON'T CONSENT. How can legislation be used as an authority to enforce legislation's on the non consenting? People who claim not to be owned are 'Anarchic', meaning not ruled. NOT chaotic, NOT disordered as the Propagandists claim. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Violence is rule by force, it would be oxymoronic for an anarchist to use violence on another. Jesus was an Anarchist. I believe an Autonomous Anarchic meritocracy would be the most beneficial system for the submissive who like and consent to be slaves(governed, controlled), for the dominate who like to be slavers(govern, control) and for those who choose neither. |
Don't tase me bro User ID: 45125822 Thailand 09/19/2013 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to abcnews.go.com] "King Willem-Alexander delivered a message to the Dutch people from the government Tuesday in a nationally televised address: the welfare state of the 20th century is gone..." If the govt wanted to say black is white, King W would have to proclaim it. The failed however to mention it was because the financial system was robbed of 4 quadrillion dollars by electronic fraud and associated criminal derivative fraud... All good things must end Last Edited by Mionel Landrake on 09/19/2013 08:25 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44329723 United Kingdom 09/19/2013 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NHS is being run down & destroyed by successive governments & big Pharma, it's hanging by a whisker. I'm getting in my free treatment, inc: more free dental work while there's still time..! but pissing me off..! having to wait several months between appointments & operations. So.. damn.. slowwww! Our benefit system is totally changing soon as well. From next month, our housing rent rebate & council tax benefit rebate will be paid in a lump sum with our dole money straight into our bank accounts, so is up to us to make sure we pay the rent & council tax, instead of it just going thru automatically. Will have to be paid by DD. Wow.. this is going to cause Chaos.. with the unemployed, poor, people in debt, hard drug users, alcoholics, depressed, sick, mentally/emotional affected persons, criminals.. all getting into bother with rent arrears, so will be turfed out onto the street, or into the expensive private sector, but is impossible to get from street to rented room without £100's up front & without a job. Most landlords are starting to refuse tenants on benefits these days, esp: if they ain't got a deposit to pay up front. Sort of economic ethnic cleansing, to get out the poor & useless sheeple eaters, so they can house and hire key workers in low rent council housing, who will eventually buy their flats at a cheaper rate. Remember the mid-1970's science fiction series 'Logan's Run?' where anyone over 30 were decommissioned in some death ray machine, or they had to run for their lives? well.. sorta along the same lines innit.. |
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trixagus horni User ID: 41318854 Netherlands 09/19/2013 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But people have always been 'owned' by other people. Having leaders and laws. Without them...it will be chaos? Quoting: trixagus horni I wonder. People haven't always been 'owed' by other people, people have claimed ownership of other people. But that is only a claim. Legislation is the framework within which citizens 'consent' to be governed(owned, controlled). Democratic theory is that having elected their legislators citizens 'CONSENT' to abide by those legislation's made on their behalf. So those who don't vote, don't enrol, DON'T CONSENT. How can legislation be used as an authority to enforce legislation's on the non consenting? People who claim not to be owned are 'Anarchic', meaning not ruled. NOT chaotic, NOT disordered as the Propagandists claim. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Violence is rule by force, it would be oxymoronic for an anarchist to use violence on another. Jesus was an Anarchist. I believe an Autonomous Anarchic meritocracy would be the most beneficial system for the submissive who like and consent to be slaves(governed, controlled), for the dominate who like to be slavers(govern, control) and for those who choose neither. I don't have any evidence but it seems logical to me. Yes, if all people were perfect the world would be like paradise... Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. (Friedrich Nietzsche) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46534137 Romania 09/19/2013 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Each city should have a or a couple poor houses to put up the poverty stricken. The community should have the responsibility of keeping them fed and sheltered only. No cell phones, no perks of any type. If they are found drunk or on drugs, drop them off on a country road and clear them out of your town. I flat out guarantee you that we would have fewer leeches. The children of druggers and drunks should be removed from the substance abusers custody so they will have a chance to become productive one day. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 343571 Are you haunted by great ideas and higher moral aspirations? Then join the Israeli state sponsored kibbutzim ! You don't need to reinvent the collectivism; it was already tested (since 1917) at a large scale in Russia. After the Russian experiment failed (due to the "human diversity incompatibility), they tried it at smaller scale (with volunteers), in a newly created test country (Israel) in those kibbutzim farms (heavily sponsored by state). Today, all kibbutzim are reorganized as corporations and ruined by CEOs (and their huge debts erased) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46462313 09/19/2013 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The King of the Netherlands has informed his country that their welfare state is finished. Quoting: UnReal King Willem-Alexander, alongside his wife, Queen Maxima, told the Dutch people that they must create their own social and financial safety nets, and that looking to the state for help was a thing of the 20th century. The speech was part of the monarch’s annual address on the day the government presents its budget. It was not immediately clear if the 100 million euros spent by the government on maintaining the Royal House, with its castles and parades, would be included in the austerity cuts. Recent polls show confidence in the government at a record low and that most Dutch people believe the cabinet’s austerity policies are at least partially to blame. The Dutch economy is expected to have shrunk by more than one percent in 2013, and is worsening while recoveries are underway in Britain, Germany and France. [link to www.euronews.com] Then there will be no taxes [aid to them nor national insurance , thats just fine KING :) You just let your people legally not consent . Bye Bye Netherlands royalty and Govt. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26533164 United States 09/19/2013 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It said takes 100 million euros to maintain the royals. To maintain you need workers so that money is going to the workers. They giving people jobs. Such a crime that one is not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33128700 Off with their heads . All the royalty. No need for them in this day and age. Straight out of the Protocols! Watch out, King! |
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Mecca Wrecka User ID: 5402358 United States 09/19/2013 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh come on now, people of the Netherlands --- deep down in your hearts, you prefer this over the government seizing yopur bank accounts and nationalising your equivalent of the American 401k retirement accounts. And at any rate, wouldn't you prefer a true Dutchman like King Willem to break the news, rathe than - in our (American) case, a foreign-raised bi-sexual Marxist do-nothing hoax, smiling like a jackass eating thistles, sold to the country as true change? |
trixagus horni User ID: 41318854 Netherlands 09/19/2013 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh come on now, people of the Netherlands --- deep down in your hearts, you prefer this over the government seizing yopur bank accounts and nationalising your equivalent of the American 401k retirement accounts. And at any rate, wouldn't you prefer a true Dutchman like King Willem to break the news, rathe than - in our (American) case, a foreign-raised bi-sexual Marxist do-nothing hoax, smiling like a jackass eating thistles, sold to the country as true change? Quoting: Mecca Wrecka 5402358 Ofcourse. I am very happy...;-) [/youtube] Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. (Friedrich Nietzsche) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47132939 United Kingdom 09/19/2013 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The King of the Netherlands has informed his country that their welfare state is finished. Quoting: UnReal King Willem-Alexander, alongside his wife, Queen Maxima, told the Dutch people that they must create their own social and financial safety nets, and that looking to the state for help was a thing of the 20th century. The speech was part of the monarch’s annual address on the day the government presents its budget. It was not immediately clear if the 100 million euros spent by the government on maintaining the Royal House, with its castles and parades, would be included in the austerity cuts. Recent polls show confidence in the government at a record low and that most Dutch people believe the cabinet’s austerity policies are at least partially to blame. The Dutch economy is expected to have shrunk by more than one percent in 2013, and is worsening while recoveries are underway in Britain, Germany and France. [link to www.euronews.com] So, is it safe to say that these mother fuckers will stop stealing and leeching of the people? |