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Worried About The Gov Hoarding Your Internet Traffic / Data Mining?

 
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Get a vpn when tor isn't enough. I use secureyourshit.com because they use openvpn which is 2056bit encryption.

Sometimes I toss TOR on top but I don't like it because it leaves me with a last node you have to trust your traffic with. All the end nodes are generally fed traps.

What do you guys use?

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Dont think most of the GLP baby boomers on this site are smart enough to know how any of this works.
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Get a vpn when tor isn't enough. I use secureyourshit.com because they use openvpn which is 2056bit encryption.

Sometimes I toss TOR on top but I don't like it because it leaves me with a last node you have to trust your traffic with. All the end nodes are generally fed traps.

What do you guys use?
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They have the encryption keys...and if they don't.....they get them.


Have you learned NOTHING from Snowden?


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My neighbors wifi.
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Re: Worried About The Gov Hoarding Your Internet Traffic / Data Mining?
Get a vpn when tor isn't enough. I use secureyourshit.com because they use openvpn which is 2056bit encryption.

Sometimes I toss TOR on top but I don't like it because it leaves me with a last node you have to trust your traffic with. All the end nodes are generally fed traps.

What do you guys use?
 Quoting: e.Y.e


They have the encryption keys...and if they don't.....they get them.


Have you learned NOTHING from Snowden?


putin
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


No they don't have the encryption keys. They are stored on a private secure server.

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Get a vpn when tor isn't enough. I use secureyourshit.com because they use openvpn which is 2056bit encryption.

Sometimes I toss TOR on top but I don't like it because it leaves me with a last node you have to trust your traffic with. All the end nodes are generally fed traps.

What do you guys use?
 Quoting: e.Y.e


They have the encryption keys...and if they don't.....they get them.


Have you learned NOTHING from Snowden?


putin
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


No they don't have the encryption keys. They are stored on a private secure server.
 Quoting: e.Y.e


Snowden says the end points are what they attack....and they then obtain the encryption keys.
...or they use other more forceful methods.

You really need to wise up.
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Get a vpn when tor isn't enough. I use secureyourshit.com because they use openvpn which is 2056bit encryption.

Sometimes I toss TOR on top but I don't like it because it leaves me with a last node you have to trust your traffic with. All the end nodes are generally fed traps.

What do you guys use?
 Quoting: e.Y.e


They have the encryption keys...and if they don't.....they get them.


Have you learned NOTHING from Snowden?


putin
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


No they don't have the encryption keys. They are stored on a private secure server.
 Quoting: e.Y.e


Snowden says the end points are what they attack....and they then obtain the encryption keys.
...or they use other more forceful methods.

You really need to wise up.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


They would need to obtain the keys forcefully.
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Even if they were watching the end points they would have no idea whose traffic belongs to who as most of the servers have 50+ users active on them at any moment. Any traffic to the server is fully encrypted and they don't have the keys to look at the traffic and read it.

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They have the encryption keys...and if they don't.....they get them.


Have you learned NOTHING from Snowden?


putin
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


No they don't have the encryption keys. They are stored on a private secure server.
 Quoting: e.Y.e


Snowden says the end points are what they attack....and they then obtain the encryption keys.
...or they use other more forceful methods.

You really need to wise up.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


They would need to obtain the keys forcefully.
 Quoting: e.Y.e


Whatever it takes....social engineering, brute force hack, endpoint attacks,
getting the keys from the other side of the endpoint, backdoors in Linux, Windows, Apple.......(yes they are there)

....but you are living in your dreamworld my naive friend.

norespect

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Even if they were watching the end points they would have no idea whose traffic belongs to who as most of the servers have 50+ users active on them at any moment. Any traffic to the server is fully encrypted and they don't have the keys to look at the traffic and read it.

The only way is to get it in force and if they were to assault the servers with exploits it would be extremely hard as they are using a hardened version of debian.
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My neighbors wifi.
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this is effective but illegal but can still be tracked and OP those small encryptions are old news, they can break them easy and your ISP can still tell when your on it
How many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One. She stands there with the bulb in the socket and waits for the world to revolve around her.
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Even if they were watching the end points they would have no idea whose traffic belongs to who as most of the servers have 50+ users active on them at any moment. Any traffic to the server is fully encrypted and they don't have the keys to look at the traffic and read it.

The only way is to get it in force and if they were to assault the servers with exploits it would be extremely hard as they are using a hardened version of debian.
 Quoting: e.Y.e


its encrypted with stuff they used in the 70s, your PC has many things that give itself away and even if you used someone elses internet they can still find who send the data with things like your MAC address, all things have these too, pc,mac,phone,tablet
How many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One. She stands there with the bulb in the socket and waits for the world to revolve around her.
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Even if they were watching the end points they would have no idea whose traffic belongs to who as most of the servers have 50+ users active on them at any moment. Any traffic to the server is fully encrypted and they don't have the keys to look at the traffic and read it.

The only way is to get it in force and if they were to assault the servers with exploits it would be extremely hard as they are using a hardened version of debian.
 Quoting: e.Y.e


Enjoy your Utopia.
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Even if they were watching the end points they would have no idea whose traffic belongs to who as most of the servers have 50+ users active on them at any moment. Any traffic to the server is fully encrypted and they don't have the keys to look at the traffic and read it.

The only way is to get it in force and if they were to assault the servers with exploits it would be extremely hard as they are using a hardened version of debian.
 Quoting: e.Y.e


its encrypted with stuff they used in the 70s, your PC has many things that give itself away and even if you used someone elses internet they can still find who send the data with things like your MAC address, all things have these too, pc,mac,phone,tablet
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


That encryption isn't from the 70s and as for a mac address you can change it. Browsing the web securely will not reveal a mac address as there is no need for it. Even if you were using an application that shared it, the only thing they would have is a mac address and countless IPs it could possibly be tied to.

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Even if they were watching the end points they would have no idea whose traffic belongs to who as most of the servers have 50+ users active on them at any moment. Any traffic to the server is fully encrypted and they don't have the keys to look at the traffic and read it.

The only way is to get it in force and if they were to assault the servers with exploits it would be extremely hard as they are using a hardened version of debian.
 Quoting: e.Y.e


Enjoy your Utopia.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Enjoy not understanding networking.
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Even if they were watching the end points they would have no idea whose traffic belongs to who as most of the servers have 50+ users active on them at any moment. Any traffic to the server is fully encrypted and they don't have the keys to look at the traffic and read it.

The only way is to get it in force and if they were to assault the servers with exploits it would be extremely hard as they are using a hardened version of debian.
 Quoting: e.Y.e


Enjoy your Utopia.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Enjoy not understanding networking.
 Quoting: e.Y.e


Clearly I understand FAR MORE than you do.
...and even my experience removed from the equation...

All you had to do was to listen carefully to what Snowden was saying.

The Russians did.
...they went back to typewriters immediately after that for a reason my VERY naive friend. grnrolleyes

Russian Agency Switches From Computers to Typewriters to Avoid Getting Hacked
[link to reason.com]

clues

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My neighbors wifi.
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this is effective but illegal but can still be tracked and OP those small encryptions are old news, they can break them easy and your ISP can still tell when your on it
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


I was kidding. but if i wasnt i would probably couple using the neighbors wifi with writing a new rule into my firewall that blocked any incoming pings and occasionally spoof my mac address.

If the NSA wanted me they would still find me though.
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after all else we've been through in that regard

it isn't much of a stretch anymore, no

not really

frankly it's to be expected at this late date

and a damn sight less intrusive than some of their prior efforts, without doubt
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Even if they were watching the end points they would have no idea whose traffic belongs to who as most of the servers have 50+ users active on them at any moment. Any traffic to the server is fully encrypted and they don't have the keys to look at the traffic and read it.

The only way is to get it in force and if they were to assault the servers with exploits it would be extremely hard as they are using a hardened version of debian.
 Quoting: e.Y.e


Enjoy your Utopia.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater




yes

they've come to relish that strong delusion oddly enough

I imagine it's somewhat comforting on some level

tho I can't imagine why...
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I prefer to face my demons head on

as opposed to getting all comfy cozy without just cause

nor good reason for having bothered

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