A question for all of you

genniii
User ID: 95493
5/19/2006 6:38 PM
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Go For it Sharon

you would at least make those of us interested think

myself, just about the only problem I have had so far with the time trekker posts is the statement: "have the technology to replace worn out organs with bio-replicas instead of machined parts that was developed in the era of ano-bio-technology, about 150 years into your future"
Since in my understanding that greater than the technological changes would be the changes in mind, beliefs and attitudes
and I had it hard to accept that even 100 years from now humans would still not have the ability to replace an arm, leg or organ with thought alone
After all the Russians were alowing children below the ages of puberty to regenerate hands etc even to the same fingerprints as the lost hand by not cauterizing but assisting with such as delineated in [link]
and other advances

Also I myself think all time and all eternity cannot exist unless it is all contained within the present Now
and I believe the only real future is that which is not yet
and that when anything "New" enters, it would affect all timelines even the ones outside the timeline a thing occurs in

however, so far, this is an interesting discussion and I am most happy that I was directed to view what is presented here - even with the rantings of the Oz Farter... who's postings made me wish I could sit and polish off a couple bottles of wine with him/her and see if I could offer my slightly differnt way of viewing reality to feed his/her mind different than what is carried into the present from a past

I shall look forward to what developes here and hope this conversation continues for many more pages

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In my recollections about Emit's comments regarding the interests of those in the distant future toward life extensions and organ replacement, it is my understanding that the seeds of that technology and advancement are being sown in this era. I am not aware of what is being done now but all I can comment on is that, according to Emit, genetic level bioengineering must await several hundred years only because of the approaching events that will cause a vast number of earth's population to perish thus thrusting the planet into a dark age period just after The Harvest. He did not go into details but simply alluded several time to a period where we will have to recover as a species into the golden age but that it will not happen overnight but rather take several generations. It could be that the advances you see now will not be fully developed until humankind recovers.
As far as "timelines" and "multiverses" are concerned, Emit described it to me in a hypothetical mind experiment that, at least to me, gives one the ability to "see" it better rather depend on some esoteric or cryptic view. I will be happy to get that journal entry and record it here for you to digest when I have time later this evening or tomorrow. It is quite fascinating to say the least but requires one to completely open one's imagination and focus in on a deep insight that, even now, still amazes me when I think about it. That is if you are interested. I can assure you that my journal is strictly personal and will never be made available to the public in book ... or any other such commercial form. What I may disseminate here is for your edification only.

Sharon, you said,

"The approaching events that will cause a vast number of earth's population to perish thus thrusting the planet into a dark age period just after The Harvest."

Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought Emit said it was going to be a short dark age period from a civil war in the near future up to 2012 when the Harvest will occur. Are you saying that the years leading up to the harvest are just a precursor to a much longer dark age and then after several generations we recover and start making the wingmaker society?

Oh and another thing I think you would enjoy is the website lyricus.org [link to www.lyricus.org]

Bridas.

INTRODUCTION


This website is designed to introduce the Lyricus Teaching Order officially for the first time on our planet. Its content will provide a detailed background on Lyricus, its purpose, structure, and orientation to planetary and species evolution.

Lyricus.org will initially provide discourses and special music selections that can be listened to while reading the discourses. Over time, this website will provide new materials that will include significant excerpts from Liminal Cosmogony as well as new discourses, related music, and various information about the externalization process that Lyricus is involved in relative to humanity.

Ultimately, the Lyricus.org website will be a central repository for the key knowledge required to discover the Grand Portal – the irrefutable scientific discovery of the human soul. This is an exciting extension of the WingMakers revelation, and the Lyricus.org website will provide companion materials to heighten the understanding of the cosmic forces that are at work on earth.

Date: December 15 2005, 10:12PM

It was a cold winter night and the streets were filled with Christmas shoppers going to and from the mall down the street from home. Emit and I decided to stay home and stay warm and watch a movie. He does love to watch our forms of entertainment. He records much of it on his little device that seems too small to hold so much information. Although Emit could probably relegate everything to memory he does love his little gadgets.
****** is with his girl friend in Florida and will not return till just before Christmas day so Emit and I have a lot of time we can devote to talking and just enjoying each other's company.
" Ready for a little quantum physics lesson ?" He asked as he sipped his red wine. Emit was talking english with very little trouble he had when we first met. "Sure", I answered as I took my drink of wine. My mind had been so enriched by Emit and his red liquid he called "semadth", which is the best I could get into letters. He said that the thought form for the liquid sounded like this word. It was like a sponge soaking in all the math and science and quantum physics that eluded me before. I was being introduced into a whole new world of ideas that I thought only college professors could fathom. It was wonderful.
Below is the hypothetical thought experiment he shared with me as best as I can recollect in his own words-

Imagine a motion picture screen. Imagine the projector that projects images onto the screen as being the true reality in such a way that any image that represents a living being is indeed a living being but one who perceives only the two dimensional images as a line on the screen. Nothing off the screen is in the being's "universe" and is therefore not perceived as even existing. Now we know that movement on the screen is simply an illusion caused by a projector casting one image after another upon the screen. There are simply two phases. When the image is projected and when the image is not projected. The first phase we will call "unon" pronounced "you-non", universe on" which is simply the phase when the projector is on and an image appears on the screen. The image is momentarily turned off for the insertion of the next frame on the film. This phase we will call the "unoff", universe off, phase, until the unon phase repeats itself with a new frame from the film. The beings on the screen would believe that motion in their world, their universe was smooth and continuous if the "frequency" or rate at which the frames moved was fast enough.
Now one must know that in the "unoff" phase, the "reality" perceived by the screen creatures would have no meaning. The unoff phase could last for less than a nano second or a million years, in the unoff phase there is no reality in the universe of the screen. Now stretch your imagination even further. Imagine the screen is not flat but rather a large sphere and the projector is in the middle of the sphere. Remember that the entire universe for these two dimensional creatures is the inside surface of this large sphere. Now go a step further and imagine the sphere growing larger and larger. The universe would appear to expand in all directions to all the poor creatures who inhabited the finite universe during the unon phase of the projection.
Imagine another projector inside the spherical screen and it projects it's images onto the screen only during the unoff phase of the first projector. The two universes would seem "parallel" and have no influence one to another. They would look the same to an observer outside of the universes but, since perception is entirely within the universe of the expanding screen, one entity in one universe would have no perception of the entity in the other universe even though the two universes were close to each other. Now suppose there are not two but many projectors. Each one would be projecting a different universe yet if an entity in one universe could jump to another universe during it's unon phase then he / she would be in a different timeline from his original universe. This analogy could be stepped up one dimension and, albeit over simplified, describe the quatum reality as we understand it in my era. Basically we now know that not only is energy given out in packets called "quanta" but time itself is a quantum event and not the continuum scientists now conceive it to be.

Emit talked more about the hypothetical spherical screen universe and it's three dimensional counterpart that we experience until early morning. I now understand "multiverses" better but there is so much more I want to know. I wish I had years to pick his wonderful brain.

User ID: 1326
5/19/2006 8:20 PM

My understanding is that the worst events are up to and incuding the Harvest. Afterwards there will be a long period of rejuvenation and replenishment. Perhaps I used the wrong words "Dark Age" when I should have used perhaps something else to emphasize a slow recovering period.

Feeling sad right now. I do miss Emit so. I looked forward to the weekends with him.... now he is gone.

I apologize if I bored anyone with the post above from my journal. Things that excite me may not excite the general reader so I will try to remember that in the future, that is if you still want me to post in the future.
I am only posting here for those who want it. I would just as soon go into oblivion and live out the rest of my life never talking of emit again to anyone.
I suppose I am just feeling badly now and just need a good night sleep so please forgive me again.

Hey, give us the red stuff, too....I think we need the red stuff.

Is it true that in the future they call this time period "The Retard age" Cause I'm thinkin that if you don't you probably should.

Thanks sharon. That was interesting. Please post more when you get the chance. I am also interested in the red liquid. Did he say anything else about our food and water?

Sharon... I for one am here to learn and to soak up as much information as possible. I am in no position to say wether Emit is real or not and wether your story is real nor do I care to share wether I believe it or not. I am how ever extremely fascinated by what your are posting. Please share anything and everything you can no matter wether you think it is relevant or wether you think anyone else will find it relevant. At the very least information you share will be in the "back of my mind," so to speak.

I really enjoy the music and am very appreciative of you sharing your information.

Thank you. I may pop in everyonce in a while with a question.

"YOU LOVE YOUR CHAINS BUT DENY THERE ARE ANY AND ARGUE THAT YOU FREEDOMS AND WILL FIGHT AGAINST ANY WORLD GOVERNMENT THAT SEEKS TO ENSLAVE YOU. I AM HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME COMPREHENDING THIS MINDSET."
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Me too.


If you can get any of the zombies to give you an answer, please let me know.

I don't believe they understand the question because they know so very little.

FEAR keeps them from learning (and thinking).

Haven't you figured that out yet?

What planet are you from...???

Excuse the sarcasm, It's been difficult living in a world on mind-controlled zombies.

Are you starting to see how DUMB these people really are? And they believe they already have ALL the answers.

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To simplify:

Ignorance is BLISS!

That's why there are so many DUMBASSES on the planet.

Got it?

Best Wishes,
Stan Plock
Sunnyvale CA

Also...

People won't believe things on the internet. (Especially if they don't WANT to know.)

If it's not on TV it's not real to the Zombies.

But don't ask me why this is so. (probably just denial)

They are not aware of anything.

So how can they answer your question if they are mind-controlled zombies?

And how can we non-zombies know either...? We're not in denial and don't understand it.

Stan P.

Thank You Sharon for the multiSpherical projection analogy post

so .... grin... either time trekker is real or you are a pretty smart cookie!
either way you have my interest

hopefully this will continue here

this is the kind of stuff that does most definatly interest me indeed

I work nights and must soon leave for work but when I can I shall post something for you as far as the unon & unoff phases

exit victor and astral girl

enter emit and sharon

Hi Sharon, Thanks for the posts. You have a small audience here who appreciate your efforts. Please continue.. and ignore the naysayers..who are sorta like wallpaper around here.

I think I would need several glasses of the red stuff to be able to say I "understand" the quantum stuff...

To repeat my question: did Emit offer any advice on how to get thru the "dark days". Im guessing you and your son will be around when they hit.. as will most of us.

Keep up the good work..

Sharon:

Still curious why Emit did not answer my question about the 2072 event.

Should have been an easy one for him if he was "legit".

How about telling us about what happened when he left. Or let me guess, you were not privy to seeing his departure?

By the way the "projector" analysis is not original. I have heard it before.

Looks like you have only fooled Bridas so far.

bring back gaia man!

User ID: 95607
5/20/2006 1:46 AM

Emit had alot to say about getting through the coming events. I will allude to them as I remember them and find them in my rather lengthy journal. Seeking direct council with your soul masters was one thing he talked about. He said many will have abilities that will aid in helping others who do not.
I am glad that there is a small readership of this thread because a large one would make me nervous. I am not one for big audiences.
I just learned so much from Emit I want to share it with the world but at the same time I have to remember that I made some promises to him as well, i.e. what I can and can not discuss. He had his reasons and I never questioned them.

Responder
User ID: 95590
5/20/2006 3:26 AM
Sharon:

Still curious why Emit did not answer my question about the 2072 event.

Should have been an easy one for him if he was "legit".

How about telling us about what happened when he left. Or let me guess, you were not privy to seeing his departure?

By the way the "projector" analysis is not original. I have heard it before.

Looks like you have only fooled Bridas so far.

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Emit never mentioned 2072. I am sure that Emit never said alot of things that would have been of interest to others like yourself. I understand your skepticism and am glad you heard the "projector" analysis before. I suppose there really is nothing new under the sun. I am not here to prove anything to anybody dear friend.
I have a feeling that Bridas is no fool and has his own take on whether Emit was real or not. He is curious to know what is being posted on this forum and has a healthy skeptical attitude tempered with a healthy open mind. It is this mindset that will gain you the truth in the end.
Emit did "pop" in and out. I had no idea at times where he was for days at a time. Suddenly I would open a door to a room and there he would be, sleeping or looking at a magazine or just meditating. He would be the first to tell you that he was not perfect. He had all the charachteristics of any human with the ability to get angry or sad or whatever. His uncanny ability, to me, was his ability to control his baser emotions.
I understand and accept your skepticism.
Are you sure this event in 2072 will be on the same timeline Emit came from and returned through... Since you understand the projector analysis you will understand my question.

Sharon, I for one really appreciate the time you are taking to tell us your thoughts, feelings and experiences with Emit. It may seem out of the realm of possibility to many what has happened to you, but as for me I like to quote Shakespeare.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

In another time past Emit would have been looked upon as an Angel. In our time he is looked at as a time traveller. In his time he is a human being. Evolution does not stand still.

If it helps, Emit has given me a new outlook on life and despite his warnings I still feel an optimism about the human spirit. His words have not been in vain.

If you like we could continue this discussion at a Yahoo group I set up here: [link to groups.yahoo.com] Of course whatever makes you feel more comfortable.

Peace from,

Barry. My Yahoo ID is tiaka9.

Bridas, AKA Barry, It is you and others like you that have kept me here. It matters not if Emit is / was real to you but rather what he said that interests you and that makes you a true truth seeker. I do not disdain the naysayers because I understand and appreciate their doubts. It is a defence mechanism in a world full of deception.
By the way, did you hear the music my son posted? What does it do for you? I am curious to see what effect it has on others and see if it affects others as it has me. At fist it was like eating cottage cheese, I hate that stuff... and then over time I began to notice that I had to listen to it at least once a week and later twice a week until it grew on me. I have had some deep insights during listening... have you?

Sharon, I had a chance to listen to it last night. It`s not like any 'music' I`ve ever heard, but the word that sprang to mind is soundscape. I`m planning on getting some better headphones as I don`t think the ones I`ve got now do it full justice. I must say I felt very relaxed. Please say a big THANKS to your son.

Have you had a chance to listen to more Wingmakers music here? [link to 199.199.194.252]

I highly recommend the track called 'My Central Message'.

Bridas.

I am amazed that there is even a Wingmaker site! Truly amazing! I went to it but had problems downloading the music. I am anxious to hear it.

Sharon,

I`ve spent a lot of time there since 1999 when I found the wingmakers site. That site feels like the truth to me as do yours and Emits words. [link to www.wingmakers.com]

And here is a newer site which is connected with the wingmakers: [link to www.lyricus.org]

I`m not sure if you can download the music. I think it`s just for streaming. You can order the cds though.

Bridas.

Sharon,

Emit`s description of multi-verses is very easy to understand. So many universes can exist inside each other because of this switching on and off. It reminds me of taking a digital photo of a TV screen. When I look at the TV with my eyes the picture looks solid, but through a digital camera the picture starts to flicker. I`m sure our mind and spirit select which frequency to tune into or display.



Bridas.

From the wingmakers music [link to 199.199.194.252]

'My Central Message' Track two.

"It is your desire to know me as yourself. It brings you to my presence, so perfectly hidden from your world.

I am behind everything you see, hear, touch, taste, smell, feel and believe. I live for your discovery of me. It is the highest expression of my love for you. And while you search for my shadows in the stories of the world, I the indelible, invisible light grow increasingly visible.

Imagine the furthest point in space beneath the black portal, cast in some distant galaxy and then multiply this distance by the highest numeric value you know.

Congratulations! You have measured an atom of my body."

WOW!!

Bridas.

Bridas you are very perceptive my friend. And of course, I failed to mention that each unon phase is frozen in time... unlike the original analogy accounted for. This is what makes time travel possible. Emit expounded more on this analogy and it really gets interesting when one considers the projector part. The pre-image of what is being projected is what fascinates me. It seems that the deeper reality is not what is on the screen but rather what is being projected onto it. I do not pretend to understand it all because the scenario actually precipitates more questions than it answers.

Emit said, "The wingmakers are very advanced souls that truly loves humanity and wants to see us advance to our ultimate destiny. I suppose you could call them our spiritual monitors and guides as well as leaders."

This is important as I sometimes think Emit is a 'wingmaker', but Emit is a human just like us. The wingmakers are our spiritual elders from another multiverse.

Imagine one day, humanity becoming elders and going out into another multiverse and helping a fledgling society.

Bridas.

NEW LYRICUS PAPER
James, the creator of the WingMakers' Materials, has just released a new paper entitled, The Art of the Genuine: A Spiritual Imperative. You can download it for free in two different Adobe PDF formats, depending on your preference. The paper describes a specific technique of the Lyricus Teaching Order on how one can access their higher intelligence and express it through their emotional self-mastery.


PDF FILES
[link to www.wingmakers.com]

Question 2 – Are the WingMakers similar to the Manasaputras or the Greater Builders as referred to in some literature?

Answer 2 – The Form Builders (as I refer to them) are not the WingMakers. Think of the WingMakers as a collective identity, similar to the term we would use for “humanity”, except that the WingMakers represent the 7th universe central race. They are the “child” of the 7th Archetype of First Source, while humanity is the “child” of the WingMakers.

Within the WingMakers, just as within humanity, there is tremendous diversity. In other words, not everyone who is a member of the 7th universe central race is concerned with the spiritual welfare of humanity. Thus, a teaching resource was developed in very, very ancient times (as humanity thinks of these things), called Lyricus (its real name cannot be disclosed in the spoken languages of Earth).

[link to www.wingmakers.com]