Russian War Games on Baltic Border Spark Security Fears

Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania joined the EU and got put into debt slavery for their trouble.

Guess what Boris....your grand russian army is a joke. A bunch of antiques far behind western technology. If shit ever broke out between russia and the west, you'd find out very quickly the differences in the equipment.

Nope. Russia during Tsar's rule.

Damn you must be some age to remember that shit

If it was tit for tat the Russian exercises would be in Mexico.

Western invasion consensus for Russia is 14 days. Not a problem

I quote that wrong my english bad. I mean Russia to invade Europe. IE Energy oil gas halted and invasion. UK knows this.

Russia do not fear USA, far from it.

Maybe NATO could stop fucking around with Syria...

Add to it SKY-HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT, crime and corruption equal to any banana republic, sky rocketing suicide rates...!
Is this what they call a success story?

You are soo much better off

i agree

baltic states need to shut the fuck up here

shit's going down soon anyway

just duck and cover balties

Don't be a fool. Russia fears the USA just like the USA fears Russia. Both can destroy each other. Both will destroy each other if there is ever a war which is why there will never be one. Russia and the USA will continue to fight each other through proxy wars like Syria.

Russia and USA aren't so different though. Their interests align in many places and this will only grow in time. The main reason the USA opposed the USSR is because of communism and control over energy.

Well communism is gone for the most part and energy is becoming less of an issue and both the USA and Russia have discovered more energy.


In the future it's more likely the USA and Russia will be allies then enemies. Russia and the USA share a common enemy with Islam. With the rise of China, Russia is threatened. China will compete for influence in central Asia which threatens Russia. China will eventually want to expand and guess whats directly to the north of them? Resource rich Russian lands that are almost empty. In fact the Chinese have already started the invasion. More and more Chinese immigrants move (legally and illegally) to Siberia everyday.

Russian assessments from 1997 suggested that China, not the United States, posed the greatest threat to Russia’s interests and allies. Indeed, leading Russian scholars of international relations such as Alexei Arbatov predicted that over the next five to 20 years, Russia should carefully watch China’s expansionism toward Siberia and the Russian Far East, as well as Central Asia … _thediplomat

“[Russians are] still worried that China will invade Siberia one day because of the resources,” Dmitry Gorenburg, a senior analyst at military and public sector think tank CNA, said in an interview last month.

“Because from the Russian point of view it’s a very sparsely populated area, hard to defend, very remote from the center of Russia,” he said. _Taipei Times


NATO is also getting weaker. The USA bears the lions share of the burden and the Europeans depend on the USA more and more. Most of our "allies" would have trouble defending their own lands let alone helping in a major war. Even the large powers like the UK barely have enough ships to patrol their own coast.

Over the next decade or so it makes sense for a new major alliance for form based around the USA, Russia, UK, Germany, France, and India to arise. All countries share a common enemy in Islam and are threatened by a large China.

//YUP GET THE CLAP and bed bugs

Its about the Baltic USO. Tensions are rising, some one must really want that thing.

Its about the Baltic USO. Tensions are rising, some one must really want that thing.

NATO probably thinks Russia is testing out some new listening devices in anticipation of 'troubles' in other areas. Well, the Med Sea and Black Seas would have already been salted when the Israel listening devices were discovered. (unless you believe Israel would make the mike look like a natural rock and put a tv satellite sized dish right next to it, you would also buy that the US forgot to put air-cleaners on the choppers on that failed rescue attempt in 1980 was a true story))

They probably should be designing boats that sail on frozen water. (to North America as well as local pond, the Zamboni Highway is faster than the current Autobahn)

Last Edited by MHz on 09/23/2013 12:39 AM

Let's just tell that there's no such problem as unemployment. It's not my words. Such message is often used by mass media here.

Something similar to this?


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Perhaps the forklift attachment would be an option you would be interested in? I was thinking more like from this 1st pic to the 2nd pic and up the cargo capacity to fit with a 100ft version. That would need ice 24/7 but it could also travel 24/7 without refueling and if the upper winds could be coaxed to come down you would also need a high-speed version

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We should be on the thread that predicts the Thames will freeze, all year rather than just in the winter would be the exterminator, anything less would need us to make 'some adjustments'.

If land can be salted with cluster munitions, could salting the sea-floor have little devices that attach themselves to the various hull (visible and not so visible) and ride silently along until the hull is in a port and the tracker signal is given for the hypersonic missile that is the boat/port exterminator in a war that needs a clear victor. Perhaps the one that can accept the reality of weather change will be the one to have the clear upper-hand.

Last Edited by MHz on 09/23/2013 08:24 AM

Too much pressure on small ice area makes it crack. That's the whole idea behind light "swimming on tires" design with possibility to both swim and crawl back on ice.
It should be possible to make it work with heavyweight stuff too. But it's something for the other thread.

There's not much one can do against all sorts of tracking. In course of large scale war tracking would be definitely disrupted in one way or another, opening gaps.

Russian does not think like American. Sorry you are incorrect, their is no state of mind balance here. Different people so very different. Russians have war on their own soil for many century's , USA has had 1 in 1776 and learned nothing.

Nations do what is in their best interest. You don't have to think alike to share similar interests. Russia has also floated the idea of a Russian-American alliance in the past so this isn't some fantasy scenario.

And what does having war on ones soil have to do with anything involving an alliance?

If it becomes in both Americas and Russias interests to ally it will happen especially as the old cold war hardliners die out. The Russians and Americans didn't like each other much in WW2 yet they still worked together.

First of all communism is not gone. Energy problems and dependencies are not solved.

Lets not forget glorious Soviet alliance with Germany during WWII and lets not skip well known modern Russian-Chinese alliance. So as far as alliances go, they work all the time. Neverending wars in the country and at the borders too. It's definitely not an example to learn from.