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Subject Math of Salvation
Poster Handle MagTog
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Before you read this, just know that neither God nor any Angels came down and made themselves manifest to tell me I was right...so I may be wrong. Debate is welcome.

Many people have a hard time believing Christianity. Many cannot attach themselves to the faith without more in-depth answers to puzzling questions the Bible leaves us with. For these types, it is not enough to follow emotionally based appeals to a state where they can proclaim that they believe, but they must analytically examine the Bible and understand it through the prism of logic in order to come to the faith. That being said, I do not think there is a great enough effort to reach out to these folks, and I also do not think that we spend enough time enriching and strengthening our own faiths through the type of thinking that would appeal to these people. Some people in the faith actually believe that it cannot be explained or understood within the constraints of logic – at least not all the time - but that because God is God, he sometimes steps outside the laws of logic and miraculously provides truths that one can only come to believe through faith – not logic. With these people, I disagree. To me, God is Love, the Creator, the Origin of the Universe and That Which Separated (Divided) somethingness from nothingness, when all there was was nothingness. God is the Law Maker, the Promise Keeper, incapable of contradicting himself, and ultimately, the Origin and Ultimate Result of Perfect Logic.

Anyhow, I'm not going to go further down the path of explaining my understanding of God right now. I mainly intend to show you the “Math of Salvation” through Christ.

One of the big questions people seem to have about Salvation, is “How?”. How does one man save the souls of ALL people on earth? How does that make sense in terms of numbers? How is it that the penalty for ALL of our sins can be canceled out by the death and resurrection of Jesus?

Let's examine the factors involved.

First, no impurity can enter Heaven. Just one sin committed will make you impure. Having sinned only once in our lives, we are eternally damned. Also, remember that we all came into this world with original sin, and this sin also makes us impure. The Bible tells us that original sin passes down from the biological father, not the mother. Therefore, as Jesus was born of a virgin birth, he was free of original sin.

Second, before Christ arrived, the Jews (God's Chosen People) would atone for their sins through the sacrifice of blood (animals). I do not really know how that kind of atonement would work, but it seems that those judged to be righteous (and I would assume that means generally “atoned for and of a good heart, action and love for God”), would not go to Heaven, but to “Abraham's Bosom”.

Third, the original Law of the Jews and the only official System of Governance and Law for them, has been, and will always be, their Theocracy. This means Rule By God. The laws given to the Jews by God were both the laws on earth for them and the spiritual laws they were bound to. They were the same. To put it in today's terms, if our laws in America were the Laws that God gave us, it would mean that not paying your taxes, or running a red light, or smoking in a non-smoking area, would not only get you in trouble with the system of law enforcement on earth, but it would also be counted as a sin in heaven.

Fourth, in the Law of the Jews (God's Law for them), you could atone for your crimes/sins, and equally as important in my mind, you could intercede in the punishment of another's crimes/sins. An understanding of intercession is crucial. Example: Say you stole a loaf of bread and the punishment for that is that you have a hand cut off. You're judged to be guilty, and then sentenced. Then, because I have not committed the same crime/sin, I can step in and say that I want my hand cut off as a substitute for yours. In that case, you, the criminal/sinner, would obviously have to agree to the offer made by me. I can't just step in and have my hand cut off without your knowledge and acceptance, and count that as having paid your penalty. This is why you must acknowledge your sins through repentance and accept the gift of salvation.

Numbers play a part here. If you stole two loaves of bread and the punishment is then to have two hands cut off, to intercede fully, I would have to offer up both my hands to be cut off for yours. What happens then if you stole 3? I cannot step in and have 3 hands cut off. I only have 2. You only have 2 as well, so I don't know how they would handle that...but I hope you're getting the gist of this... On Earth, punishments are mathematically linked. One for One. What then can I do if the total punishment for your crime is death? I would then have to give my life to intercede for yours.

The punishments on Earth are not the same as the spiritual punishment. As you may recall, the only spiritual punishment for us is eternal damnation (there are degrees within, but it's still all eternal damnation) - and this is for having sinned only once. If you sin twice, the total punishment is the punishment for the first sin plus the punishment for the second sin. This is where more math starts to kick in. Remember, God is the God of Logic...

An eternity (as in eternal damnation) is an infinite amount of time. Mathematically then, we need to treat eternity like its numerical equivalent (or conceptual, I guess), “Infinity”. Now, what is infinity + 1? That's right, it's infinity. What's infinity times 2 (This would be the amount of time in damnation you would spend for having sinned twice)? Infinity times 2 is also infinity. What is infinity times infinity? Infinity. Infinity to the infinitieth power? Infinity. Get the idea?

So, what could I do to intercede for your sins, spiritually speaking? Well, nothing. I have sinned, and I was tainted from the start with original sin. Plus, because I have sinned once (and much more than once, obviously), I am just as guilty and damned as the rest of mankind. If, however, I had never sinned and had not original sin, I could take on the one sin you have (let's just say you only have one sin to pay for), and I would be damned eternally, and you would not. What if you had committed two sins? Could I pay the penalty for BOTH of your sins, had I never been marked by sin? Absolutely. The spiritual penalty of committing one sin is the same as having committed two, as eternal damnation + eternal damnation = eternal damnation. As a matter of fact, lets say you have committed 8,755,932,001,234 sins in your life. Could I intercede for you spiritually if I had never sinned? Yes. The math is the same. The conditions for it to work would be that I would have never sinned, and that the intercession can be done in terms of the Law. Basically, the system of law under which I would intercede would actually have to have the authority or ability to be not just an Earth-law, but it would also have to be Spiritual-law, which is what we find through the Law - the Theocracy - of the Jews.

So now, what if you had committed an infinite number of sins (not recommended), could you be saved? Yes! The math is still the same. Would I, the person who has never sinned, be able to save two people though? Even if they had both committed an infinite number of sins? Yes! The penalty is the same. As a matter of mathematical fact, if I had never been touched by sin, and the system of law I acted under had authority spiritually to let me intercede, then I could save an infinite number of people even if they had each committed an infinite number of sins. I could intercede for them all because the penalty I would pay is the same penalty I would pay for saving just one person from one of their sins. This is why Jesus is The Perfect Lamb, the Perfect Sacrifice for all our sins. The atonement by his blood and the intercession he gives us as a gift is mathematically perfect to save us from our sins. (It is perfect in many other ways besides just mathematically, as well...but I digress...)

You will never encounter a person on Earth whose love, grace, and mercy exceeds that of God's. He has done His part, it is now up to us to accept His love, grace, mercy, and salvation – and if we have already accepted this, then to thank God and revel in His grace and love, and to love Him back (as you should anyway, even if you had not been given or accepted salvation...because as you know...He kind of gave you everything you have already, and all of existence owes itself to Him).

I am definitely not perfect. I however do not think that my imperfections and unfitness allow me to stand on the sidelines and neglect the Great Commission - the duties I have as a Christian to speak the word. I am a horrible sinner, but my life and my heart are overjoyed by the Love, Grace, Mercy, and Perfection of God and His Plans, and this is why I am sharing what I know. So that you may feel what I feel, no matter what kind of vile sinner you think you may be. God Loves you and gives you salvation freely. You're covered if you accept the gift. It's been mathematically proven.

P.S. The Judeo-Christian faith is the only one that is Mathematically Perfect that I know of. It's been hidden by inattentiveness and a lack of mathematical understanding on our part for thousands of years (infinity as a mathematical concept has only been understood pretty recently). I've studied many other religions, and I cannot find another religion which even makes a real attempt to be mathematical. Most others just try to emulate the mystery and power which is contained in the Bible, but none understood that the Bible was mathematically perfect, so none (as far as I can tell) emulated that. The End.
 
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