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If God's Kingdom is just in "one's heart"- why did Jesus say THIS:

 
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If God's Kingdom is just in "one's heart"- why did Jesus say THIS:
"Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth"- Matthew 6:9, 10
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because the Kingdomis like a seed..it is within us..but as a seed..it has to grow ..so it can produce the fruits..
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Because its begins IN the heart first.

Later, after all the crap has been wound up, its outside as well..all over the earth.

But it begins within.
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Men are from woman from venus

But Jesus? From another heaven.
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because the Kingdomis like a seed..it is within us..but as a seed..it has to grow ..so it can produce the fruits..
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If it is a seed within in us, why did Jesus ask for Gods Kingdom to come? Could it be that the Kingdom is something much more significant?
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LORD's prayer basically


Kingdom to come is children
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Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."


Gospel of Thomas 22
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The spiritual heart = entrance to the spiritual realm.

It's not the physical heart that contains the kingdom, although it sort of corresponds to the physical area.

The heavens are not the physical sky above our bodies. Do you ever see God up there? I see clouds, stars, blue sky, the sun, the moon.

Not that I actually know, but this is something for you to think about.
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"Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth"- Matthew 6:9, 10
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Isn't our hearts wicked?
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Thy Kingdom Come

Thy will be done


ON EARTH

AS IT IS IN HEAVEN...

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Thy Kingdom Come

Thy will be done


ON EARTH

AS IT IS IN HEAVEN...

 Quoting: christian


yes, children first basically

It is the fathers will that we worship the son
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because the Kingdomis like a seed..it is within us..but as a seed..it has to grow ..so it can produce the fruits..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46886278


If it is a seed within in us, why did Jesus ask for Gods Kingdom to come? Could it be that the Kingdom is something much more significant?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Ifyou notice in the Our Father it would seemthe two are linked..the Kingdom of God..

Thy Kingdom come

and Gods Will

Thy willbe done

so the seed is within us..but it is the surrender to God´s Will..the becoming one with God´s Will that makes the Kingdommanifest

While man continues his own road trying to sort things out himself..with his means..and according to his will..it wont manifest

it takes humilty to surrender to God

Trust

Faith and LOVE
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LUKE 17:21

nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is in your midst."

The Coming of the Kingdom
20Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; 21nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst." 22And He said to the disciples, "The days will come when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see...
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The Kingdom is not meat and drink.
It is righteousness, peace, and joy.
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because the Kingdomis like a seed..it is within us..but as a seed..it has to grow ..so it can produce the fruits..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46886278


If it is a seed within in us, why did Jesus ask for Gods Kingdom to come? Could it be that the Kingdom is something much more significant?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


That seed are those who will because of that seed being present will suvive the fire storm yet to come. THing of Venus in its current state.. no human can survive on Venus... in fact the surface of Venus currently is very much like the literal of the lake of fire... only spirit can survive that sort of event... but that event is not going forever, only its transision time of flux... at the end of that time, those who are spirit well bring a new world to the planet Earth, a much different Planet Earth at that. Thing of the aspects and effects of a solar Nova where for a short time of days or months the surface temperatures and evne a half mile down, will have temperatures that are in the 350F to 850F range. Who would survive it, who of flesh?

This is the real warning of the Bible.. that that time is coming... in that the World shall perish by fire. Even modern science 'sees' a time when the Earth will at least be licked by a solar Nova.. and some of them say it would be a Super Nova tht vaporizes the planet.. but these place it yet ahead some billions of years in the future. Yet, they do not know really when such a thing will happen. All the same the warning is out there..

Byt as to the Kingdom, it is such that each and every one would in fact feed the hungry, help the poor, heal the sick, house the homeless... every man doing it for every other man... and that day is not yet..
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The Kingdom is not meat and drink.
It is righteousness, peace, and joy.


Interesting. I've heard this idea before. Why do you think the word "kingdom" is used, instead of something like "state of being"? Do you agree that it's rather confusing?
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LUKE 17:21

nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is in your midst."

The Coming of the Kingdom
20Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; 21nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst." 22And He said to the disciples, "The days will come when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see...
 Quoting: christian


Luke 17:21 has many different translations, "in your midst" is not a very precise translation
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The Kingdom is not meat and drink.
It is righteousness, peace, and joy.
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That then is the Psychological Kingdom, or the Psychic Kingdom, that of the soul and not of the flesh.

The Sermon on the Mount was a lesson and even a series of commandments given to His followers, that were in fact both of the Soul but also of the Flesh,.. feed the hungry, help the poor, shelther the homeless, cloth the naked, heal the sick .. all without the use of Money and such Economies...

But rather based upon the workings of the holy Spirit within each of the followers of Jesus... just look at the benefits of that holy SPirit in manifestation within each follower.. as seen in the light of Pauls treatise of 1 Cor 12-14.. especially 1st Cor 12:7-10.. consider the benefits indicated there in the light of how to keep the commandments given by Jesus on that Mountain of Sermon.
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Luke 17:21
nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is in your midst.”

Footnotes:

Luke 17:21 Or is within you



1 John 3:24


Revelation 1:5-6
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
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"Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth"- Matthew 6:9, 10
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


New International Version

Then I saw "a new heaven and a new earth," for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.

Rev 21:1
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Thy Kingdom Come

Thy will be done


ON EARTH

AS IT IS IN HEAVEN...

 Quoting: christian


yes, children first basically

It is the fathers will that we worship the son
 Quoting: rekameohsnad


Don't forget the Father.
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Because it is not just inside you-
2 Corinthians 12:2
I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven.

There are many other verses that speak of this and multiple layers to it. 3 being the highest and the abode of God just beyond the veil of the celestial heavens.
“The most important things are the hardest to say. They are the things you get ashamed of, because words diminish them -- words shrink things that seemed limitless when they were in your head to no more than living size when they're brought out. But it's more than that, isn't it? The most important things lie too close to wherever your secret heart is buried, like landmarks to a treasure your enemies would love to steal away. And you may make revelations that cost you dearly only to have people look at you in a funny way, not understanding what you've said at all, or why you thought it was so important that you almost cried while you were saying it. That's the worst, I think. When the secret stays locked within not for want of a tellar but for want of an understanding ear.” Stephen King
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The Kingdom is not meat and drink.
It is righteousness, peace, and joy.


Interesting. I've heard this idea before. Why do you think the word "kingdom" is used, instead of something like "state of being"? Do you agree that it's rather confusing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18535219


There are several different realms, that of the Physical or Matter realm, there is the realm of the Soul, there is the realm of the Spirit.. each of these could be seen to have a form of Rulership, hence a King .. each Realm being deemed as a Kingdom.. teh King's Domain.. that space-time location in wich that King has rule..

His Kingdom is not of This World.. the world the he was IN at that time speaking.. the World of Elite Fallen Men ruling over all of mankind in the flesh, in the physcial kingdom..

The sword of the spirit is not a physical sword.. not even a psychological sword, but rather a spiritual sword. .not even a mental sword..

some would say in modern terms there is that kingdom of the abiotic, the kindgom of the biotic, and the kingdom of the noetic. Kingdoms are more than merely territories of physical land and sea.. A King can rule a people that are scattered around the planet's land.. and mixed int with other peoples.and still be a king with a People... Unfortuantely teh Anglo-Saxon English predominate usage has subverted and re-colored much of what once understood as to Kings and their Peoples..
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Because it is not just inside you-
2 Corinthians 12:2
I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven.

There are many other verses that speak of this and multiple layers to it. 3 being the highest and the abode of God just beyond the veil of the celestial heavens.
 Quoting: ByFaithAlone


Indeed many different levels of meaning for each 'verse'.. yet which are not at all mutually exclusive withe each level's meaning.

Love the LORD your GOD with all your Heart, Mind, Soul, and Strength.. there is a four dimension mapping.. and there are even more dimensions than these four.
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"Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth"- Matthew 6:9, 10
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Our outer world is shaped by our (human) inner.

The physical is now where heaven on earth will be prepared - but with our inner shaping - WITH PHYSICAL ACTION - a world that is best for ALL life on the planet.

Assistance will be given 'behind the scenes'; however, we will work to bring this forward as physical beings.

hf






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"Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth"- Matthew 6:9, 10
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


His "kingdom" isnot in your heart; He is.
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because the Kingdomis like a seed..it is within us..but as a seed..it has to grow ..so it can produce the fruits..
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If it is a seed within in us, why did Jesus ask for Gods Kingdom to come? Could it be that the Kingdom is something much more significant?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


as in heaven, also upon earth

within us now. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit. We can drink from the tree of life through faith and the alter stone is in us. We make a personal covenant as married to GOD. We share hearts with GOD, as in we reside in the heart of GOD NOW.


No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,'

because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. Heb 8:11

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Oh yea of little faith, it all started with longer lives and a eden, and we are expected to believe thats not where it ends.


No that God and Jesus , they got all that worked out. After this day I have no doubt.


I have cried/laughed and again the same today as it began to really sink in, I knew it all along yet thought the good guys the bad guys, false flags all that.

I sought this fellow out, and man has He got game.


Brilliant, Bravo, excellent, I shall perhaps still be applauding as they lay me under, so impressive the show has been. You dont know how many nights I laid in bed begging god to let my children live, to take me in their stead, then all of you. I cant even count the years any longer how much time I have spent on this in an attempt to seek this one out, to know. running here, there, never really knowing anything until I said or wrote it myself. many times the wrong thing.



To know, to be convinced they not perish, and it be me, that a price I gladly pay.

Thank you God!
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Thy Kingdom Come

Thy will be done


ON EARTH

AS IT IS IN HEAVEN...

 Quoting: christian


yes, children first basically

It is the fathers will that we worship the son
 Quoting: rekameohsnad


Don't forget the Father.
 Quoting: Harbinger Of Truth


Jesus Christ is the Son, not the Father

in Christianity, the only way to 'the kingdom' is to worship the Son
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The minerals chemically react. They produce life. Plants grow. Amimals feed. Life evolves. Or sometimes, Fukushima.
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The minerals chemically react. They produce life. Plants grow. Amimals feed. Life evolves. Or sometimes, Fukushima.
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Minerals chemically react according to God's written blueprints, not by random accident.


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