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Reality Check: UK Violent Death Rate Substantially Higher Than USA

 
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Sorry about the long aside, back to murders. Remember that 657 number from the Home Office? The Coroners only called 229 of the cases they determined a cause of death on a homicide, and in 4400 cases they filed a "narrative verdict" describing the cause of death in a narrative manner without putting it in a category. If those 4400 cases are what we would normally call murders Big Edit starts here that would suggest that the correct number of "violent deaths of interest to the police" is on the order of 4700 for 2011, then the UK murder rate is 8.5 per 100,000 or about 177% of the US murder rate. Now, honestly, we don't know what conclusion as to cause the coroner would have reached if they weren't using It's entirely possible that very few of them would have been classed as homicides. We don't know. My point here isn't that the English death rates should be quoted from the highest available but rather, no matter which source I attempt to use, I can't actually get an apples to apples comparison. The data simply isn't available.

[link to rboatright.blogspot.com]

Per 100K People the UK leads the US in murders! So, gun control doesn't keep people from poisoning folks or beating them to death with a cricket mallet.

So, someone needs to tell Mr. Porter at the Guardian eat shit!
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Talking to American friends, I always sense a kind of despair that the gun lobby is too powerful to challenge and that nothing will ever change. The same resignation was evident in President Obama's rather lifeless reaction to the Washington shooting last week. There is absolutely nothing he can do, which underscores the fact that America is in a jam and that international pressure may be one way of reducing the slaughter over the next generation. This has reached the point where it has ceased to be a domestic issue. The world cannot stand idly by.

His arguments are spurious. And comparing us to Syrian Rebels is just propaganda.
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Sorry about the long aside, back to murders. Remember that 657 number from the Home Office? The Coroners only called 229 of the cases they determined a cause of death on a homicide, and in 4400 cases they filed a "narrative verdict" describing the cause of death in a narrative manner without putting it in a category. If those 4400 cases are what we would normally call murders Big Edit starts here that would suggest that the correct number of "violent deaths of interest to the police" is on the order of 4700 for 2011, then the UK murder rate is 8.5 per 100,000 or about 177% of the US murder rate. Now, honestly, we don't know what conclusion as to cause the coroner would have reached if they weren't using It's entirely possible that very few of them would have been classed as homicides. We don't know. My point here isn't that the English death rates should be quoted from the highest available but rather, no matter which source I attempt to use, I can't actually get an apples to apples comparison. The data simply isn't available.

[link to rboatright.blogspot.com]

Per 100K People the UK leads the US in murders! So, gun control doesn't keep people from poisoning folks or beating them to death with a cricket mallet.

So, someone needs to tell Mr. Porter at the Guardian eat shit!
 Quoting: Mad Scientist (aka AmJedi)


When I want to beat someone to death I usually opt for either a golf bat, or a tennis hammer.
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Right

8.5 per 100,000

UK population is about 63,000,000

( 63,000,000 / 100,000 ) x 8.5 = 5355 violent deaths per year

which is about 103 per week, 15 per day.

With tight knife and gun control.
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Sorry about the long aside, back to murders. Remember that 657 number from the Home Office? The Coroners only called 229 of the cases they determined a cause of death on a homicide, and in 4400 cases they filed a "narrative verdict" describing the cause of death in a narrative manner without putting it in a category. If those 4400 cases are what we would normally call murders Big Edit starts here that would suggest that the correct number of "violent deaths of interest to the police" is on the order of 4700 for 2011, then the UK murder rate is 8.5 per 100,000 or about 177% of the US murder rate. Now, honestly, we don't know what conclusion as to cause the coroner would have reached if they weren't using It's entirely possible that very few of them would have been classed as homicides. We don't know. My point here isn't that the English death rates should be quoted from the highest available but rather, no matter which source I attempt to use, I can't actually get an apples to apples comparison. The data simply isn't available.

[link to rboatright.blogspot.com]

Per 100K People the UK leads the US in murders! So, gun control doesn't keep people from poisoning folks or beating them to death with a cricket mallet.

So, someone needs to tell Mr. Porter at the Guardian eat shit!
 Quoting: Mad Scientist (aka AmJedi)


When I want to beat someone to death I usually opt for either a golf bat, or a tennis hammer.
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Reality hurts. Furthermore, they don't report the violent crimes committed by muslims.
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Sorry about the long aside, back to murders. Remember that 657 number from the Home Office? The Coroners only called 229 of the cases they determined a cause of death on a homicide, and in 4400 cases they filed a "narrative verdict" describing the cause of death in a narrative manner without putting it in a category. If those 4400 cases are what we would normally call murders Big Edit starts here that would suggest that the correct number of "violent deaths of interest to the police" is on the order of 4700 for 2011, then the UK murder rate is 8.5 per 100,000 or about 177% of the US murder rate. Now, honestly, we don't know what conclusion as to cause the coroner would have reached if they weren't using It's entirely possible that very few of them would have been classed as homicides. We don't know. My point here isn't that the English death rates should be quoted from the highest available but rather, no matter which source I attempt to use, I can't actually get an apples to apples comparison. The data simply isn't available.

[link to rboatright.blogspot.com]

Per 100K People the UK leads the US in murders! So, gun control doesn't keep people from poisoning folks or beating them to death with a cricket mallet.

So, someone needs to tell Mr. Porter at the Guardian eat shit!
 Quoting: Mad Scientist (aka AmJedi)


Only if you assume that all of those 4400 deaths would have been classified as murders, which, as the article itself states, is silly. So yeah, if you arbitrarily increase the number of murders by 20 times, the UK has a higher murder rate than the USA. Well done.
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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
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Sorry about the long aside, back to murders. Remember that 657 number from the Home Office? The Coroners only called 229 of the cases they determined a cause of death on a homicide, and in 4400 cases they filed a "narrative verdict" describing the cause of death in a narrative manner without putting it in a category. If those 4400 cases are what we would normally call murders Big Edit starts here that would suggest that the correct number of "violent deaths of interest to the police" is on the order of 4700 for 2011, then the UK murder rate is 8.5 per 100,000 or about 177% of the US murder rate. Now, honestly, we don't know what conclusion as to cause the coroner would have reached if they weren't using It's entirely possible that very few of them would have been classed as homicides. We don't know. My point here isn't that the English death rates should be quoted from the highest available but rather, no matter which source I attempt to use, I can't actually get an apples to apples comparison. The data simply isn't available.

[link to rboatright.blogspot.com]

Per 100K People the UK leads the US in murders! So, gun control doesn't keep people from poisoning folks or beating them to death with a cricket mallet.

So, someone needs to tell Mr. Porter at the Guardian eat shit!
 Quoting: Mad Scientist (aka AmJedi)


When I want to beat someone to death I usually opt for either a golf bat, or a tennis hammer.
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lol.




We know murders happen here, even some involving guns. The only reason there is more in the USA is cause there are more people. Goodness knows how to compare the two.
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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
 Quoting: acuk


it takes a real man to vote to disarm his grandmother, so she has to get in a fist fight with someone attempting to rob/rape/kill her, instead of simply shooting her attacker.
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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
 Quoting: acuk


it takes a real man to vote to disarm his grandmother, so she has to get in a fist fight with someone attempting to rob/rape/kill her, instead of simply shooting her attacker.
 Quoting: gheylos


yeah right, the grandmothers around here would kick your head in.
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It's all comes down to the number I negros in your city, this is fact
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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
 Quoting: acuk


Or a real lunatic...I only fight to win, therefore I use the most efficient means possible.
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It is sad that Americans don't fact check the nonsense espoused by some wild eyed socialist liberal. Some loathsome cur that believes in a system of government that has allowed for a foreign, theologically based law to take hold of the UK and Western Europe.

Furthermore, it shows the cowardice of the modern European male that you have not taken back your nations from the islamic invasion.

Your granddaughters will certainly thank you as they are whipped and beaten while they wear a burqua.
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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
 Quoting: acuk


Or a real lunatic...I only fight to win, therefore I use the most efficient means possible.
 Quoting: BRIEF


You fight to kill, I fight to win, big difference.

like I said, anyone can pull a trigger, guns are readily available here, don't listen to all the who hah, if someone wants a gun, they WILL find one.

you are allowed rifles and shotguns, hand guns you can get on the black market along with fully automatic, if you so wished.

All they did was block hand guns, HAND GUNS, we can still shoot each other with shotguns and rifles, if we wanted.
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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
 Quoting: acuk


it takes a real man to vote to disarm his grandmother, so she has to get in a fist fight with someone attempting to rob/rape/kill her, instead of simply shooting her attacker.
 Quoting: gheylos


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Right

8.5 per 100,000

UK population is about 63,000,000

( 63,000,000 / 100,000 ) x 8.5 = 5355 violent deaths per year

which is about 103 per week, 15 per day.

With tight knife and gun control.
 Quoting: lightchild_uk


So what you are saying is even if you count all the 'narrative verdicts' as violent deaths (even though that is not what that means), the figures will still be inaccurate?

If you are gonna give a reality check, shouldn't you involve some kind of......you know, reality?
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Unless you use the UK version of collection of the data on the USA figures too, this whole exercise is pointless and semi-retarded.

It's like comparing apples with deep house techno music.
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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
 Quoting: acuk


First of all, I don't care if Americans have guns because it is none of my fucking business, nor should it be of any concern to any non-American.

Secondly, "it takes a real man to go toe to toe". Well, do you think a burglar with a blade is going to put it down to go toe to toe with you if you catch him in your home? Nope, he's going to stick you and not think twice about it.

Under those circumstances a gun can help save your life and possessions. Furthermore, if you've got a gun you have the upper hand... you don't have to shoot him, you can just aim it at him and order him to lay face down on the ground until the police arrive.
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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
 Quoting: acuk


Or a real lunatic...I only fight to win, therefore I use the most efficient means possible.
 Quoting: BRIEF


You fight to kill, I fight to win, big difference.

like I said, anyone can pull a trigger, guns are readily available here, don't listen to all the who hah, if someone wants a gun, they WILL find one.

you are allowed rifles and shotguns, hand guns you can get on the black market along with fully automatic, if you so wished.

All they did was block hand guns, HAND GUNS, we can still shoot each other with shotguns and rifles, if we wanted.
 Quoting: acuk


Seems as though you go looking for fights, that's the difference between us, I just go about my life and enjoy myself, if someone wants to start shit I put them in a hole.
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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
 Quoting: acuk


it takes a real man to vote to disarm his grandmother, so she has to get in a fist fight with someone attempting to rob/rape/kill her, instead of simply shooting her attacker.
 Quoting: gheylos


Amen to that!!!hf
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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
 Quoting: acuk


Or a real lunatic...I only fight to win, therefore I use the most efficient means possible.
 Quoting: BRIEF


You fight to kill, I fight to win, big difference.

like I said, anyone can pull a trigger, guns are readily available here, don't listen to all the who hah, if someone wants a gun, they WILL find one.

you are allowed rifles and shotguns, hand guns you can get on the black market along with fully automatic, if you so wished.

All they did was block hand guns, HAND GUNS, we can still shoot each other with shotguns and rifles, if we wanted.
 Quoting: acuk


Seems as though you go looking for fights, that's the difference between us, I just go about my life and enjoy myself, if someone wants to start shit I put them in a hole.
 Quoting: BRIEF


This condescension comes from two issues in the psyche of the British male, they lost 1776 to armed farmers and they lost London to muslims without firing a shot.

Here's an idea, quit worshiping the World's wealthiest welfare mom and her 'royal' brood and nut up and oust the islamic fundamentalists invading your country.
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550 murders in total in 2012. BS thread
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using the words reality check and then post a link to a fucking blog???
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Unless you use the UK version of collection of the data on the USA figures too, this whole exercise is pointless and semi-retarded.

It's like comparing apples with deep house techno music.
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Yes, in the UK spitting can be classed as a violent crime.
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Right

8.5 per 100,000

UK population is about 63,000,000

( 63,000,000 / 100,000 ) x 8.5 = 5355 violent deaths per year

which is about 103 per week, 15 per day.

With tight knife and gun control.
 Quoting: lightchild_uk


Whatever!!

15 deaths per day and the media in the UK do not report any of them.

I think your figures are way out.
We get murders in the single digits per month if any.
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this thread is such bullshit..

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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
 Quoting: acuk


Right two guys shooting at each other is trivial compared to a fist fight.

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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
 Quoting: acuk


First of all, I don't care if Americans have guns because it is none of my fucking business, nor should it be of any concern to any non-American.

Secondly, "it takes a real man to go toe to toe". Well, do you think a burglar with a blade is going to put it down to go toe to toe with you if you catch him in your home? Nope, he's going to stick you and not think twice about it.

Under those circumstances a gun can help save your life and possessions. Furthermore, if you've got a gun you have the upper hand... you don't have to shoot him, you can just aim it at him and order him to lay face down on the ground until the police arrive.
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I have disarmed people, taken their blade off them and showed them how to use it.

You lot all talk a good talk, but who here has actually been in the situations being thrown out.

A burglar with a blade hahaha,you mean some junkie punk who will see the white of my eyes as I smash the granny out of him.

I have grown up in one of the ruffest parts of London, guns are readily available, most burglars are chicken shits, that is why they do sneaky crimes like burglary, residential burglars are looked down upon in the criminal community, commercial burglars are allowed.

We have guns, but they are a last resort, a fist or knife fight or bats etc are always the first port of call.
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Yea I got some yank friends who shit themselves when they see the level of violence we are capable of.

Anyone can pull a trigger, it takes a real man to go toe to toe with someone.
 Quoting: acuk


Or a real lunatic...I only fight to win, therefore I use the most efficient means possible.
 Quoting: BRIEF


You fight to kill, I fight to win, big difference.

like I said, anyone can pull a trigger, guns are readily available here, don't listen to all the who hah, if someone wants a gun, they WILL find one.

you are allowed rifles and shotguns, hand guns you can get on the black market along with fully automatic, if you so wished.

All they did was block hand guns, HAND GUNS, we can still shoot each other with shotguns and rifles, if we wanted.
 Quoting: acuk


Seems as though you go looking for fights, that's the difference between us, I just go about my life and enjoy myself, if someone wants to start shit I put them in a hole.
 Quoting: BRIEF



No brief I do not look for fights at all, have not had a fight in many many years now, yet grew up fighting, council estates in the uk are a tuff playground to grow up in.

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