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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47245661 United Kingdom 09/22/2013 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
BadMoonRisen User ID: 42411020 United Kingdom 09/22/2013 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to claim our country back. If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. If you are at peace, you are living in the present. [link to www.inmomsbasement.com] The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. |
alexisj9 User ID: 45014658 United Kingdom 09/22/2013 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just wow, doesn't sound right at all. If my child went to that school, I would pull them out. See what happens to the school trust after that. Only problem with that would be British law on making sure your child doesn't miss any schooling, the parent could end up with a fine or I think they just added a possible prison sentence to that as well, will have to check. Ok found this but it's old, because schools are now not allowed to authorise any holidays during school sessions. [link to www.bbc.co.uk] So if my kids was at that school, and if this accusation is proven true. I would take them out of school and home school till a new place is available at another school. That way it would be legal. |
Just Me User ID: 28392167 United States 09/22/2013 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We here in America better take a long hard look. We are well on the same path as the UK. Very sad and very scary. If we all sit back these changes are going to walk right in. May take a few years but think of your children's children. I don't want my beautiful grand daughter donning a damn burka, hiding her beautiful long curls, never singing or dancing, let alone play. America, we need to stop fighting amongst ourselves, like they want. we need to stand up and stand TALL. |
Leslie User ID: 45954676 United Kingdom 09/22/2013 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Muslims have a right to their culture and they have a right to express that culture. What makes you oh so much better than them? Just because they come here to make a better life for themselves and their families and keep their rich culture, you seem to hate them for it. So stupid! |
alexisj9 User ID: 45014658 United Kingdom 09/22/2013 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Racist morans. Quoting: Leslie 45954676 Muslims have a right to their culture and they have a right to express that culture. What makes you oh so much better than them? Just because they come here to make a better life for themselves and their families and keep their rich culture, you seem to hate them for it. So stupid! Ok well my children like to sing and one plays guitar and another plays violin, it would brake their hearts if the school suddenly banned these things. Call me racist if you must, but I think children should have a child hood. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23393274 Norway 09/22/2013 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Racist morans. Quoting: Leslie 45954676 Muslims have a right to their culture and they have a right to express that culture. What makes you oh so much better than them? Just because they come here to make a better life for themselves and their families and keep their rich culture, you seem to hate them for it. So stupid! What rich culture? Oh maybe you mean the one that slices the heads off Christians? Or maybe the culture of marrying little 9 year old girls and literally fucking them to death on their wedding night? or maybe the culture of making women subservient non-human pieces of chattel? or maybe the "culture" of killing women who are raped due to no fault of their own? Should I go on? Take your muslim "culture" and shove it up your idiotic ass! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4469901 Canada 09/22/2013 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Racist morans. Quoting: Leslie 45954676 Muslims have a right to their culture and they have a right to express that culture. What makes you oh so much better than them? Just because they come here to make a better life for themselves and their families and keep their rich culture, you seem to hate them for it. So stupid! You're a fool and i will tell you why. In normal schools the banning of Islamic songs is not done, or are Islamic instruments banned, yet hypocritically the Muslim "Faith" better known as an ideology wants to Ban all things that do not go with their ideological driven religion and not expect to be called hypocrites? Sorry but it is the muslims who are the hypocritical racists here expecting the UK to dismiss its entire history and culture to cater to immigrants of the Muslim faith? fool you're |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4469901 Canada 09/22/2013 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Racist morans. Quoting: Leslie 45954676 Muslims have a right to their culture and they have a right to express that culture. What makes you oh so much better than them? Just because they come here to make a better life for themselves and their families and keep their rich culture, you seem to hate them for it. So stupid! Ok well my children like to sing and one plays guitar and another plays violin, it would brake their hearts if the school suddenly banned these things. Call me racist if you must, but I think children should have a child hood. You're the logical one the Muslim faith is not logical and never was. The reason they Ban instruments involving strings is because it requires creativity and discipline (something forbidden in the Muslim faith other than to the religion) to master the instrument which goes agaisnt their ideology. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3937774 Canada 09/22/2013 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Racist morans. Quoting: Leslie 45954676 Muslims have a right to their culture and they have a right to express that culture. What makes you oh so much better than them? Just because they come here to make a better life for themselves and their families and keep their rich culture, you seem to hate them for it. So stupid! You'll change your tune about them when they kill someone you care and love all because they werent muslim. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47235337 United States 09/22/2013 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Racist morans. Quoting: Leslie 45954676 Muslims have a right to their culture and they have a right to express that culture. What makes you oh so much better than them? Just because they come here to make a better life for themselves and their families and keep their rich culture, you seem to hate them for it. So stupid! If they want to keep their own culture, they should stay in their own countries. If they want to move to another country, they should be expected to conform to the values of that country. |
alexisj9 User ID: 45014658 United Kingdom 09/22/2013 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not like our schools force Muslims to do things that are against their religion, these days there are notes sent home to sign for all sorts. They can opt out of things if they want to. So why is this school allegedly forcing women to wear head dresses even though they are not Muslim, and stopping students from doing what is considered essential learning in our society. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4469901 Canada 09/22/2013 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not like our schools force Muslims to do things that are against their religion, these days there are notes sent home to sign for all sorts. They can opt out of things if they want to. So why is this school allegedly forcing women to wear head dresses even though they are not Muslim, and stopping students from doing what is considered essential learning in our society. Quoting: alexisj9 Read up on Muslim history. its painted with blood. The basic way Muslims operated all the way through history was ride across the desert with 10,000 men or more tell the village its attacking "it will convert or die" (obvious what happens next) and then repeat the process. There is a reason the Christian crusasders spent nearly 200-400 years keeping the Muslims out of Europe and most of the west middle east. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1547257 Canada 09/22/2013 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Quoting: SheldonReturns Britain's first Muslim free school is controlled by religious hardliners who ban children from singing or reading fairy tales and force staff to wear headscarves - according to the former head teacher and deputy who claim they were forced to leave. Andrew Cutts-McKay resigned from his role as head of al Madinah School in Derby in August, two months after deputy Suzanne Southerland stepped down from her post. Both allege they were 'bullied and sidelined' by members of the school's trust, which is predominantly Muslim. The school strongly denies the pair's claims. But earlier this week, concerns were raised by teachers who complained they were being ordered to wear the hijab – even if they are not Muslim. Now claims have been made that alongside the strict dress code, the school's 200 pupils are banned from playing stringed instruments, which are forbidden in the Islamic faith. Singing is also forbidden unless it involves Islamic faith songs, while youngsters are not allowed to read fairy tales as these are 'non-Islamic'. Other staff have highlighted ‘concerns’ over the school's practices, which include banning non-halal food and forcing female pupils as young as four to sit at the back of the class away from boys. Female members of staff, some of whom are not Muslims, say they have been told to sign new contracts which force them to wear the hijab. These also ban them from wearing jewellery on the school’s premises in Derby. One woman, who had been interviewed for a position, claimed she was told she was not allowed to shake hands with male teachers to avoid ‘insult’. And if you let it happen,that's who's fault again? yeah that look in the mirror is really telling,huh? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47235337 United States 09/22/2013 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not like our schools force Muslims to do things that are against their religion, these days there are notes sent home to sign for all sorts. They can opt out of things if they want to. So why is this school allegedly forcing women to wear head dresses even though they are not Muslim, and stopping students from doing what is considered essential learning in our society. Quoting: alexisj9 Read up on Muslim history. its painted with blood. The basic way Muslims operated all the way through history was ride across the desert with 10,000 men or more tell the village its attacking "it will convert or die" (obvious what happens next) and then repeat the process. There is a reason the Christian crusasders spent nearly 200-400 years keeping the Muslims out of Europe and most of the west middle east. This is more like Arab history. They're just a "convert or die" kind of race. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1547257 Canada 09/22/2013 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Racist morans. Quoting: Leslie 45954676 Muslims have a right to their culture and they have a right to express that culture. What makes you oh so much better than them? Just because they come here to make a better life for themselves and their families and keep their rich culture, you seem to hate them for it. So stupid! Says the ass kisser who is trying to protect her own ass! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36050285 United States 09/22/2013 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components. Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.' When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)). As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness: United States -- Muslim 1.0% Australia -- Muslim 1.5% Canada -- Muslim 1.9% China -- Muslim 1%-2% Italy -- Muslim 1.5% Norway -- Muslim 1.8% At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs: Denmark -- Muslim 2% Germany -- Muslim 3.7% United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7% Spain -- Muslim 4% Thailand -- Muslim 4.6% From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States). France -- Muslim 8% Philippines -- Muslim 5% Sweden -- Muslim 5% Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5% Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8% At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons). Guyana -- Muslim 10% India -- Muslim 13.4% Israel -- Muslim 16% Kenya -- Muslim 10% Russia -- Muslim 10-15% After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning: Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8% At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare: Bosnia -- Muslim 40% Chad -- Muslim 53.1% Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7% From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels: Albania -- Muslim 70% Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4% Qatar -- Muslim 77.5% Sudan -- Muslim 70% After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide: Bangladesh -- Muslim 83% Egypt -- Muslim 90% Gaza -- Muslim 98.7% Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1% Iran -- Muslim 98% Iraq -- Muslim 97% Jordan -- Muslim 92% Morocco -- Muslim 98.7% Pakistan -- Muslim 97% Palestine -- Muslim 99% Syria -- Muslim 90% Tajikistan -- Muslim 90% Turkey -- Muslim 99.8% United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96% 100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: Afghanistan -- Muslim 100% Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100% Somalia -- Muslim 100% Yemen -- Muslim 99.9% Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4469901 Canada 09/22/2013 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not like our schools force Muslims to do things that are against their religion, these days there are notes sent home to sign for all sorts. They can opt out of things if they want to. So why is this school allegedly forcing women to wear head dresses even though they are not Muslim, and stopping students from doing what is considered essential learning in our society. Quoting: alexisj9 Read up on Muslim history. its painted with blood. The basic way Muslims operated all the way through history was ride across the desert with 10,000 men or more tell the village its attacking "it will convert or die" (obvious what happens next) and then repeat the process. There is a reason the Christian crusasders spent nearly 200-400 years keeping the Muslims out of Europe and most of the west middle east. This is more like Arab history. They're just a "convert or die" kind of race. Well technically speaking the Sikhs are not Muslims and their religion is more of a "Attack our culture physically and we will fight to the death" as the sikh like martial arts. At least the Sikhs dont butt their noses where they dont belong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4469901 Canada 09/22/2013 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So why does Islam ban the playing of "stringed" musical instruments ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46559958 they (string instruments) require dedicated and discipline to something other than Islam. Also string instruments cannot be used to make hypnotic Islamic music compared to the flute and drums they make use of. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1547257 Canada 09/22/2013 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So why does Islam ban the playing of "stringed" musical instruments ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46559958 they (string instruments) require dedicated and discipline to something other than Islam. Also string instruments cannot be used to make hypnotic Islamic music compared to the flute and drums they make use of. In other words, you have to have some talent, which they have none. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47251321 United States 09/22/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is crazy. Even in muslim countries and muslim schools children sing and read fairy tales. They're universal. I've been to some muslim countries for my work on Children's across the world and in most of the schools they had theaters to play movies and children were rehearsing for Cinderella play. The ones taking control over this school in England must be the Talibani type who wont stand a chance in a muslim country. England needs to do something about it if its true. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4469901 Canada 09/22/2013 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So why does Islam ban the playing of "stringed" musical instruments ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46559958 they (string instruments) require dedicated and discipline to something other than Islam. Also string instruments cannot be used to make hypnotic Islamic music compared to the flute and drums they make use of. In other words, you have to have some talent, which they have none. More or less yes. Ive heard tales of Islamic string instruments similar to a "Madelin" (cant spell it) but sounds nothing like it. I have a friend who was a Muslim by birth but rejected the faith in choice of becoming a Sikh and he says the Sikh would cut down all Muslims long before they would ever join them in a Jihad (to which Sikhs see as hypocritical as she Sikh religion requires a physical attack for provocation of war) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26697722 United States 09/22/2013 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Racist morans. Quoting: Leslie 45954676 Muslims have a right to their culture and they have a right to express that culture. What makes you oh so much better than them? Just because they come here to make a better life for themselves and their families and keep their rich culture, you seem to hate them for it. So stupid! Being a guitar player myself, I would like too say......Fuck You. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46849028 United States 09/22/2013 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Racist morans. Quoting: Leslie 45954676 Muslims have a right to their culture and they have a right to express that culture. What makes you oh so much better than them? Just because they come here to make a better life for themselves and their families and keep their rich culture, you seem to hate them for it. So stupid! What rich culture? Oh maybe you mean the one that slices the heads off Christians? Or maybe the culture of marrying little 9 year old girls and literally fucking them to death on their wedding night? or maybe the culture of making women subservient non-human pieces of chattel? or maybe the "culture" of killing women who are raped due to no fault of their own? Should I go on? Take your muslim "culture" and shove it up your idiotic ass! |