HELP!!! My knee Collapsed...any Doctors in the House? UPDATE

torn meniscus....
easy fix-you get scoped-takes 1/2 hour under general in the or,they clean up the torn nasty bits and you are walking fine in about 2 weeks.

Are your acl& mcl okay?

Ice it ice it

arthritis?

When I went to the doctor on Wed they were....But considering what happened Thursday I'm thinking the inflammation combined with all the walking I did was too much stress and tore one of them...

I've only had an x-ray since but it will take an MRI to determine...I'm going to find out one way or the other tomorrow....

just frustrated right now....this sucks.!

Yeah..that's what I suspect.....I can't see how it could be the acl just because there have been no sports activities to have caused it and the way this all came about.

You think it was just too much stress from in inflammation etc.?

It sure wasn't a fun feeling, I can tell you that.

ICE

Ice, compression, elevation.

Getting it scoped is out patient and you will be in a thigh high brace for a few weeks, with crutches.

If you can't go this route, just try to stay off of it as much as possible. Get a brace and keep it iced. If a tubular brace doesn't fit you well, then get an Ace bandage and wrap it the best you can - take ibuprofen too.

Feel better soon!

LOL.....I'm laughing because I watched some youtube videos on walking with crutches today...already have some.

I thought...."piece of cake"....

then I tried to actually do it!

That is what's so funny........it wasn't pretty

I already got an immobilization brace and have iced like crazy....

I just hate this but thanks for the sentiments....

Last Edited by Truthserum on 09/22/2013 09:10 PM

I'm sure that if there were a doctor in your house that you would know...
...but I know for sure that there are doctors at the hospital...so perhaps check there?

Good luck!!

Where is the pain located medial..lateral..top of knee or behind

Seems to be in the front lower patella area to lending itself to the lateral side mostly....

The weird thing is I can sit in a chair and bend my knee completely without any pain at all...it's only when I try to stand or walk on it...

of course the Hydrocodone the doctor gave me may be coming into play here....

Last Edited by Truthserum on 09/22/2013 09:19 PM

Double post..sorry

Last Edited by Truthserum on 09/22/2013 09:19 PM

^this^

It`s called trick knee,the meniscus gets torn and the tears get caught between your knee joint,next thing you know your
down for the count.I had mine scoped 20 years ago.They cut off the tears and no more problems.I had mine done about 20 years ago and havn`t had a problem since.

Good Luck

^this^

It`s called trick knee,the meniscus gets torn and the tears get caught between your knee joint,next thing you know your
down for the count.I had mine scoped 20 years ago.They cut off the tears and no more problems.I had mine done about 20 years ago and havn`t had a problem since.

Good Luck

sorry double post

OK...we have two votes for meniscus.....!!! LOL

Yeah...this was my suspicion as well. I'm thinking my doctors original diagnosis was correct (he checked for tears) on Wed was correct.

But now, I think it's torn.....thanks

At least its not as bad as it could be.

There are a few doctors around here somewhere... but I've only heard from them once or twice.

Im a nurse, but don't do ortho, you stated your xray was clear, did you have an MRI? Not a doctor as I said... but it sounds like ligement damage or meniscus...think someone stated as much above.


Rice. Rest ice compress elevate. Get to the doctor.

And don't let those pain meds make you think you can do more then you can. If it hurt to bare weight or bend before you took them don't do it on them. Not until you've seen the doctor.

Feel better. :)

Last Edited by 3pic on 09/22/2013 09:25 PM

Thanks so much..no you don't have to worry about me thinking the pain meds will make me do too much...I'm a big coward when it comes to pain.

No MRI yet but I'm thinking I just need to get in touch with an Ortho doctor in the am...instead of going back to my gp....he's a good guy but this is going to need more.

Everyone..thanks so much for the input...it pretty much confirms what I was suspecting but my imagination was working on me and I was getting scared.

Thanks so much

Stay away from Radioactive Iodine and another contrast dye, gondulium or something.

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Ice & 800 mg of ibuprofen 3 times per day if you can take it. Follow up with your orthopedic doctor asap. Tore my left meniscus a while back bowling, sounds like the same symptoms. Mine healed without surgery, but was in a brace for 2 months.

I'm no doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night...

You may be able to relieve some of the pain. My inclination is quad lateralis and itb. You can use a rolling pen or get "the stick" a facial tool and work the quad group and itb. Do you have any pain in the hip? This would indicate itb. The itb attaches below the lateral knee and crosses the hip turning into the tfl then gluteus Maximus. So work those areas as well.
Even if it is maniscus the joint is inflamed and you can relieve the pressure by working these groups. If u can get to a licensed massage therapist you can get further relief. Good luck

Also check the gluteus medius as this muscle is responsible for knee stabilization. You can find all these groups and their trigger points on line.

The muscles are minimal for stabilization of the knee joint. They allow the 'work' and mobility aspects. Stabilization comes primarily from the ACL, LCL, MCL, and the PCL. Also, the quadriceps tendon and patella tendon incorporate the PFJ, Patellofemoral Joint.

And what exactly is the quad lateralis? Do you mean the Vastus Lateralis?

Last Edited by Troy. on 09/22/2013 10:16 PM

What about meth?

If you can get some grape seed extract - that is the only thing that ever helped me - I had the exact same symptoms in many major joints from my systemic lupus - really bad pain, inflammation, fluid, swelling. The grape seed extract needs to be taken at 100mg per 100lbs of body weight, if possible. If you take it with other antioxidants, even better. It is a natural anti-inflammatory - so won't totally destroy your kidneys like what the doc gave you is doing to them, and it also repairs and removes free radicals in the system that cause disease, inflammation, damage, breakdown of the body. If you can get grape seed with resveratrol (also from grapes), you are 5x as good. I had my mom get it from Costco for the inflammation in her wrist (she's 64) when I saw her wearing wrist braces. She listened to me and in two days, no more braces, and I have not seen her with them since! I highly recommend it. I began using it when I didn't even know that I had lupus or that it was supposed to help with inflammatory conditions, lupus, joints - also supposed to help really reduce chance of cancers, and prevents/heals damage caused in the body by the high sugars in diabetics, such as vascular breakdown, poor circulation, poor healing, bleeding in the capillaries in the eye that makes them go blind, etc. Most disease and breakdown in the body is contributed to by free radicals and the damage they do - grape seed extract is the superman of antioxidants and scavenges these free radicals and rids your body of them. I used to sell it years ago before it became a product you could get on the shelves (early 90's) and we knew a lot about the wonders it was doing for people. You can find it a lot of places now, but look for quality, too.

Also, if I ever have a knee go out, I always keep it well wrapped, night and day, and that makes a HUGE difference in how fast it recovers and how it feels. Make sure you have some good ace bandages on there until you are fixed up! Try Tommy Copper, too, that might be a good product for that purpose. Just Google it.

Take care!

Oh, p.s. - the other thing I have found that greatly helps the pain in joints and soft tissues anywhere is 100% pure emu oil - just rub it in - like magic it takes away pain, for me anyway. Not the blue gel stuff with emu in it - just the straight-up emu oil - and keep it in a cool place so it stays fresh.

Gluteus whastsamus? Ok...I know the glut is your butt but you guys lost me...

Nah...I haven't had any problems in da butt...lol...just sounds funny to say.

This was all knew pain and then boom..it gave way

Going to find an orthopedic doctor tomorrow

Ok..right about now I'm thinking the doctors showed up...English please! LOL

okay,solointheplanet= interceptor=orthopaedic surgeon, present!

obviously we have to wait until the MRI to be sure of a meniscus tear, but meanwhile and if yuo already had 2 weeks of rest, you can go to a phisiotherapy unit to get some us (ultrasound) treatment,medical laser, electrostimulation etc, maybe is going to be expensive too,but they are not going to do any harm to you....Drugs, only recommend painkiller like ketoprofen and desketoprofen (the last is the better) but that depends on your country and state regulation...are you on crutches yet? what amount of degeneration your x ray is showing?
there are some alternatives for cartilage and for the joint itself before a surgery.

Thanks....I've grown fonder of natural remedies over the years....when you watch tv commercials that last 5 seconds telling you about the product and then another 55 telling you about all the crap it can do TO you, it tends to make one look for alternatives......thanks so much.

I'm betting this time though I'm gonna ultimately have to go the surgery route....