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How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?

 
Elouina
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How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
Ok the government is good at using loopholes and so are rich businessmen. So why shouldn't Joe public have an opportunity also?

Here are ways that you can avoid paying the Obamacare penalties which start in March of 2014.

"The only individuals exempt at this stage are:

• Undocumented immigrants,
• Members of certain religions,
• Individuals who are incarcerated,
• Native Americans,
• People with a family income below the taxable level,
• Those who must pay more than 8 percent of their income for health insurance."

I think for many Americans, most Obamacare plans will cost more than 8% of their income, so there you go...


PLus...

"The ACA itself states no criminal action or liens can be imposed on those who fail to pay.

Depending on the number of people who abuse this leniency, Congress may eventually impose further penalties as the individual mandate goes into full effect."

So if you don't pay, until congress enacts new legislation, the government can't do a dam thing about it. So the only people that will be paying the penalties will be the honest folks doing it through the goodness of their hearts or those that read this just now.

[link to saludify.com]
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
So it's simple, all you have be is a Muslim illegal immigrant from Mexico, steal a car, marry a native Indian and not have a job.

Unless you are as above, you are screwed. Pretty much like the Democrat's domestic policy for the last 30 year's.
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
• Be a veteran and be signed up in VA Healthcare. (this is my out.)
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
I don't know but I wouldn't take any advice here seriously
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
I don't know but I wouldn't take any advice here seriously
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Actually, I would consider this if I had no insurance.
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
What religions are exempt?

What % of native american blood to be exempt?
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Oddly enough, Islam has an answer to that. After this mall rampage, it might not be a bad time to learn some of it.
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To avoid Obamacare, you must destroy Obamacare.
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
One reason obamacare is called constitutional is that it didn't violate the so called "commerce clause" test according to the supreme court.

What it does violate in my opinion is your right to contract. If you are contracting for a service, insurance, against your will it is called involuntary servitude. Involuntary servitude is prohibited by the 13th amendment of the constitution.

Government coercion and penalties forces people to obamacare.
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
The key to avoid actually paying the penalties is to make sure that your employer is not taking too much taxes out of your paycheck. Make the necessary adjustments by re-doing your W-4.

If you pay too much in they will automatically deduct the penalty from your refund.

If you owe money to the IRS, refuse to pay the penalty portion and send in the balance minus the penalty - there is nothing they do legally about it.

F the IRS and Obamacare!

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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
What religions are exempt?

What % of native american blood to be exempt?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20935370


You must be a member of a federally recognized tribe, marring a native will not help you.

In my tribe you must be over ¼ native to be a member.

Now my question is, what do you have against natives? We do have are own health care system, IHS (Indian Health Service) so we don’t need Obama care, and are health “insurance” is covered under treaty rights.
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
Ok the government is good at using loopholes and so are rich businessmen. So why shouldn't Joe public have an opportunity also?

Here are ways that you can avoid paying the Obamacare penalties which start in March of 2014.

"The only individuals exempt at this stage are:

• Undocumented immigrants,
• Members of certain religions,
• Individuals who are incarcerated,
• Native Americans,
• People with a family income below the taxable level,
• Those who must pay more than 8 percent of their income for health insurance."

I think for many Americans, most Obamacare plans will cost more than 8% of their income, so there you go...


PLus...

"The ACA itself states no criminal action or liens can be imposed on those who fail to pay.

Depending on the number of people who abuse this leniency, Congress may eventually impose further penalties as the individual mandate goes into full effect."

So if you don't pay, until congress enacts new legislation, the government can't do a dam thing about it. So the only people that will be paying the penalties will be the honest folks doing it through the goodness of their hearts or those that read this just now.

[link to saludify.com]
 Quoting: Elouina

Calm down dude. You are going to have to comply or face a penality at tax time. There is no getting out of it!
I can't imagine why you would want to. Health care in quite valuable as we age~
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
Ok the government is good at using loopholes and so are rich businessmen. So why shouldn't Joe public have an opportunity also?

Here are ways that you can avoid paying the Obamacare penalties which start in March of 2014.

"The only individuals exempt at this stage are:

• Undocumented immigrants,
• Members of certain religions,
• Individuals who are incarcerated,
• Native Americans,
• People with a family income below the taxable level,
• Those who must pay more than 8 percent of their income for health insurance."

I think for many Americans, most Obamacare plans will cost more than 8% of their income, so there you go...


PLus...

"The ACA itself states no criminal action or liens can be imposed on those who fail to pay.

Depending on the number of people who abuse this leniency, Congress may eventually impose further penalties as the individual mandate goes into full effect."

So if you don't pay, until congress enacts new legislation, the government can't do a dam thing about it. So the only people that will be paying the penalties will be the honest folks doing it through the goodness of their hearts or those that read this just now.

[link to saludify.com]
 Quoting: Elouina


Let it go the way of prohibition, and slavery!

Last Edited by GodFrequency on 09/23/2013 07:18 PM
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
make less than the poverty level for an individual or a family of four.
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graduated tax credits are offered to those making up to 400% of the poverty level for their status
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• People with a family income below the taxable level.

Which is?
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
To avoid Obamacare, you must destroy Obamacare.
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^^^ this.
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
• People with a family income below the taxable level.

Which is?


everyone is taxed from the first dollar they make. proverty level is approx. 12k for individual and 24k for family of four.
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To avoid Obamacare, you must destroy Obamacare.

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^^^ this.



ain't going to happen. pay a penalty of $600+ the first year and $2k the following year for non compliance. most people w/o the means to pay for health insurance will be assisted. the health industry is committed to this venue.
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You can die, but then yer stuff gets taxed.
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
It's not that much the first year.. Doubt it will even roll out
On time..
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
Join a Christian Sharing Ministry.
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
Ok the government is good at using loopholes and so are rich businessmen. So why shouldn't Joe public have an opportunity also?

Here are ways that you can avoid paying the Obamacare penalties which start in March of 2014.

"The only individuals exempt at this stage are:

• Undocumented immigrants,
• Members of certain religions,
• Individuals who are incarcerated,
• Native Americans,
• People with a family income below the taxable level,
• Those who must pay more than 8 percent of their income for health insurance."

I think for many Americans, most Obamacare plans will cost more than 8% of their income, so there you go...


PLus...

"The ACA itself states no criminal action or liens can be imposed on those who fail to pay.

Depending on the number of people who abuse this leniency, Congress may eventually impose further penalties as the individual mandate goes into full effect."

So if you don't pay, until congress enacts new legislation, the government can't do a dam thing about it. So the only people that will be paying the penalties will be the honest folks doing it through the goodness of their hearts or those that read this just now.

[link to saludify.com]
 Quoting: Elouina


don't forget the federal workers.
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Re: How can you avoid the Obamacare penalties legally?
Ok the government is good at using loopholes and so are rich businessmen. So why shouldn't Joe public have an opportunity also?

Here are ways that you can avoid paying the Obamacare penalties which start in March of 2014.

"The only individuals exempt at this stage are:

• Undocumented immigrants,
• Members of certain religions,
• Individuals who are incarcerated,
• Native Americans,
• People with a family income below the taxable level,
• Those who must pay more than 8 percent of their income for health insurance."

I think for many Americans, most Obamacare plans will cost more than 8% of their income, so there you go...


PLus...

"The ACA itself states no criminal action or liens can be imposed on those who fail to pay.

Depending on the number of people who abuse this leniency, Congress may eventually impose further penalties as the individual mandate goes into full effect."

So if you don't pay, until congress enacts new legislation, the government can't do a dam thing about it. So the only people that will be paying the penalties will be the honest folks doing it through the goodness of their hearts or those that read this just now.

[link to saludify.com]
 Quoting: Elouina


don't forget the federal workers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41228716


and all of the democrats who voted for this sh*tcake.

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