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ALERT!! Kerry to sign UN small arms treaty today!!!

 
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Secretary of State Kerry to sign Arms Trade Treaty

UNITED NATIONS (Rooters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, in a move that puts the Obama administration at odds with the powerful American gun lobby, will sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty regulating the $70 billion international conventional arms business, diplomats said on Tuesday.
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Does anyone know: Since it takes the senate to sign the treaty, how long will it remain on the table to allow the senate to sign it? Is there a time frame of years, or is it indefinite? Could a senate elected 20 years from now sign it as a treaty?
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Obama could bypass the senate using the sole-executive clause.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
A sole-executive agreement can only be negotiated and entered into through the president's authority (1) in foreign policy, (2) as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, (3) from a prior act of Congress, or (4) from a prior treaty.[1] Agreements beyond these competencies must have the approval of Congress (for congressional-executive agreements) or the Senate (for treaties).

He could claim since it's arms that it's under foreign policy/commander in chief... so he doesn't need the senate...
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Does anyone know: Since it takes the senate to sign the treaty, how long will it remain on the table to allow the senate to sign it? Is there a time frame of years, or is it indefinite? Could a senate elected 20 years from now sign it as a treaty?
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IMO the treaty only stays till the next session of congress... So till January 3, 2015.
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Obama is getting America out of the business of unleashing Hell on non White populations through the sale of small arms?

Or is he just getting them out of Africa before attempted recolonization by the West?

China and Russia will provide the weapons to stop western recolonization.
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Obama is getting America out of the business of unleashing Hell on non White populations through the sale of small arms?

Or is he just getting them out of Africa before attempted recolonization by the West?

China and Russia will provide the weapons to stop western recolonization.
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Shit Americans aren't recolonizing there, most cannot stand Africa...
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The UN small Arms treaty is in direct contradiction to the second amendment which makes it an constitutionally illegal document the moment it is signed...
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Obama could bypass the senate using the sole-executive clause.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
A sole-executive agreement can only be negotiated and entered into through the president's authority (1) in foreign policy, (2) as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, (3) from a prior act of Congress, or (4) from a prior treaty.[1] Agreements beyond these competencies must have the approval of Congress (for congressional-executive agreements) or the Senate (for treaties).

He could claim since it's arms that it's under foreign policy/commander in chief... so he doesn't need the senate...
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Wrong, he can not!

[link to www.foreign.senate.gov]
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[link to www.chicagotribune.com]
Secretary of State Kerry to sign Arms Trade Treaty

UNITED NATIONS (Rooters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, in a move that puts the Obama administration at odds with the powerful American gun lobby, will sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty regulating the $70 billion international conventional arms business, diplomats said on Tuesday.

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Yeah, dipshit...the UN treaty would make it illegal for Obama and Eric Holder unable to do just that, goofball.

To date, the United States has armed and/or trained each and every military adversary we have ever faced including the Japanese and the Native Americans.

This marks the FIRST time in our nations history that ANY attempt has been made for the U.S. to stop creating our own goddamn military adversaries.

How is that a bad thing, again??
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Secretary of State Kerry to sign Arms Trade Treaty

UNITED NATIONS (Rooters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, in a move that puts the Obama administration at odds with the powerful American gun lobby, will sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty regulating the $70 billion international conventional arms business, diplomats said on Tuesday.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47298356


Yeah, dipshit...the UN treaty would make it illegal for Obama and Eric Holder unable to do just that, goofball.

To date, the United States has armed and/or trained each and every military adversary we have ever faced including the Japanese and the Native Americans.

This marks the FIRST time in our nations history that ANY attempt has been made for the U.S. to stop creating our own goddamn military adversaries.

How is that a bad thing, again??
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You're joking right Im sure that there will be a clause in the bill that allows them to continue to do just that... It will be a national security clause..
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Secretary of State Kerry to sign Arms Trade Treaty

UNITED NATIONS (Rooters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, in a move that puts the Obama administration at odds with the powerful American gun lobby, will sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty regulating the $70 billion international conventional arms business, diplomats said on Tuesday.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47298356


Yeah, dipshit...the UN treaty would make it illegal for Obama and Eric Holder unable to do just that, goofball.

To date, the United States has armed and/or trained each and every military adversary we have ever faced including the Japanese and the Native Americans.

This marks the FIRST time in our nations history that ANY attempt has been made for the U.S. to stop creating our own goddamn military adversaries.

How is that a bad thing, again??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24458218


You're joking right Im sure that there will be a clause in the bill that allows them to continue to do just that... It will be a national security clause..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47405933


Well...rather than let your idle mind wander...why don't you just read the damn bill? It's only 17 pages long.

No exceptions are made for "national security"...although there IS one made which explicitly states that it cannot infringe upon the second amendment.

Alternatively, you could just turn on the radio and mindlessly repeat whatever Rush Limbaugh tells you to think.

Goofball.
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[link to www.chicagotribune.com]
Secretary of State Kerry to sign Arms Trade Treaty

UNITED NATIONS (Rooters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, in a move that puts the Obama administration at odds with the powerful American gun lobby, will sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty regulating the $70 billion international conventional arms business, diplomats said on Tuesday.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47298356


Yeah, dipshit...the UN treaty would make it illegal for Obama and Eric Holder unable to do just that, goofball.

To date, the United States has armed and/or trained each and every military adversary we have ever faced including the Japanese and the Native Americans.

This marks the FIRST time in our nations history that ANY attempt has been made for the U.S. to stop creating our own goddamn military adversaries.

How is that a bad thing, again??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24458218


You're joking right Im sure that there will be a clause in the bill that allows them to continue to do just that... It will be a national security clause..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47405933


Well...rather than let your idle mind wander...why don't you just read the damn bill? It's only 17 pages long.

No exceptions are made for "national security"...although there IS one made which explicitly states that it cannot infringe upon the second amendment.

Alternatively, you could just turn on the radio and mindlessly repeat whatever Rush Limbaugh tells you to think.

Goofball.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24458218


Just like the government purchasing all of the ammunition and destroying it?

Just like federal background checks to purchase weapons, which can exclude you for not paying taxes?

Don't think that this isn't direct treason. Any form acquiescence of national sovereignty-especially with the one weapon that has thwarted invasion for a century-is TREASON.
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Re: ALERT!! Kerry to sign UN small arms treaty today!!!
You got to thinking about this last night, we're under a lot of UN laws these days, reminded me how we changed over to the 'new international' building codes back in 2010..

Why would this country ever have a need to go by some international build codes? When we set the standards..

Slowly it creeps.. but seems to be picking up to a fast trot these days...
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Obama is getting America out of the business of unleashing Hell on non White populations through the sale of small arms?

Or is he just getting them out of Africa before attempted recolonization by the West?

China and Russia will provide the weapons to stop western recolonization.
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Shit Americans aren't recolonizing there, most cannot stand Africa...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47405933

Oh YES WE CAN (are)!

We have troops in MALI - trying to steal their gold from the mines as we speak.

Africa isn't a tourist destination - its a resource rich land.

They have been trying to get rid of the Africans with Aids etc in order to make room for the NEW inhabitants.

The Chinese have built giant cities - empty as of now.

The world has divy-ed up Africa and is fighting battles for it right now.

We will be fighting wars over Africa - its begun.
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You got to thinking about this last night, we're under a lot of UN laws these days, reminded me how we changed over to the 'new international' building codes back in 2010..

Why would this country ever have a need to go by some international build codes? When we set the standards..

Slowly it creeps.. but seems to be picking up to a fast trot these days...
 Quoting: ceawaves

Obamacare required new 4 digit codes for health claims and once they learned them.....

They WERE REPLACED BY UN CODES!?!

New International compliant codes with 5 digits are now required and coders are flustered because they just learned the other new ones.

So - international codes for NATIONAL healthcare????

Obama is taking us and HANDING US OVER TO THE UN!

Kerry signed the Small Arms Treaty wth the UN today!
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Kerry's paternal grandparents, who had been born Jewish, as "Fritz Kohn" and "Ida Löwe", in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, changed their names to "Frederick and Ida Kerry" in 1900 and converted from Judaism to Roman Catholicism in 1901[6][7] or 1902.[8] Fritz' elder brother Otto had earlier, in 1887[7] or 1896,[5] also embraced Catholicism. The "Kerry" name, widely misinterpreted as indicative of Irish heritage, was reputedly selected arbitrarily: "According to family legend, Fritz and another family member opened an atlas at random and dropped a pencil on a map. It fell on County Kerry in Ireland, and thus a name was chosen.
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That's cute the named it after John McCain.
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Obama could bypass the senate using the sole-executive clause.

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Impeach and imprison the motherfucker if he does!


obama-jail

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[link to www.chicagotribune.com]
Secretary of State Kerry to sign Arms Trade Treaty

UNITED NATIONS (Rooters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, in a move that puts the Obama administration at odds with the powerful American gun lobby, will sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty regulating the $70 billion international conventional arms business, diplomats said on Tuesday.

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Now we are FUCKED!

Great job!!!!!
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You got to thinking about this last night, we're under a lot of UN laws these days, reminded me how we changed over to the 'new international' building codes back in 2010..

Why would this country ever have a need to go by some international build codes? When we set the standards..

Slowly it creeps.. but seems to be picking up to a fast trot these days...
 Quoting: ceawaves

Obamacare required new 4 digit codes for health claims and once they learned them.....

They WERE REPLACED BY UN CODES!?!

New International compliant codes with 5 digits are now required and coders are flustered because they just learned the other new ones.

So - international codes for NATIONAL healthcare????

Obama is taking us and HANDING US OVER TO THE UN!

Kerry signed the Small Arms Treaty wth the UN today!
 Quoting: Theobromine 19876247


Appears that way.. This country's being tuned into one big feeder host for all the parasites of the world..sucking down to the bone marrow ..so very sad..There's a big difference in freely giving < something this country's always done>than being taken/forced from.. Everyone should have always known 0bama was a 'citizen' of the world first, before he was ever a 'citizen' of this country, You can only have ONE first love!

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Obama could bypass the senate using the sole-executive clause.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
A sole-executive agreement can only be negotiated and entered into through the president's authority (1) in foreign policy, (2) as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, (3) from a prior act of Congress, or (4) from a prior treaty.[1] Agreements beyond these competencies must have the approval of Congress (for congressional-executive agreements) or the Senate (for treaties).

He could claim since it's arms that it's under foreign policy/commander in chief... so he doesn't need the senate...
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Try reading a Constitution instead of Wikipedia. I assure you, that is false.
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Does anyone know: Since it takes the senate to sign the treaty, how long will it remain on the table to allow the senate to sign it? Is there a time frame of years, or is it indefinite? Could a senate elected 20 years from now sign it as a treaty?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2920706


IMO the treaty only stays till the next session of congress... So till January 3, 2015.
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Doesnt matter, he's a sell out to every American, and a been- a-dick -arnold of epic proportion. Makes him one of the most treasonous Americans to ever live. And they put people that expose the government secrets in jail? Then they should definitely be off with this fucking lerches pin head!!!

Fuck this administration and those who support it!

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Secretary of State Kerry to sign Arms Trade Treaty

UNITED NATIONS (Rooters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, in a move that puts the Obama administration at odds with the powerful American gun lobby, will sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty regulating the $70 billion international conventional arms business, diplomats said on Tuesday.

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Maybe this can be used to retroactively prosecute Fast and Furious.
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You got to thinking about this last night, we're under a lot of UN laws these days, reminded me how we changed over to the 'new international' building codes back in 2010..

Why would this country ever have a need to go by some international build codes? When we set the standards..

Slowly it creeps.. but seems to be picking up to a fast trot these days...
 Quoting: ceawaves

Obamacare required new 4 digit codes for health claims and once they learned them.....

They WERE REPLACED BY UN CODES!?!

New International compliant codes with 5 digits are now required and coders are flustered because they just learned the other new ones.

So - international codes for NATIONAL healthcare????

Obama is taking us and HANDING US OVER TO THE UN!

Kerry signed the Small Arms Treaty wth the UN today!
 Quoting: Theobromine 19876247


Appears that way.. This country's being tuned into one big feeder host for all the parasites of the world..sucking down to the bone marrow ..so very sad..There's a big difference in freely giving < something this country's always done>than being taken/forced from.. Everyone should have always known 0bama was a 'citizen' of the world first, before he was ever a 'citizen' of this country, You can only have ONE first love!
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^^^^this times ten thousand, ten thousands!!^^^^
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The UN small Arms treaty is in direct contradiction to the second amendment which makes it an constitutionally illegal document the moment it is signed...
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Actually, because of the constitution, the "treaty" itself is neither legal or substantive - regardless of who signs it. Attempting to enforce said illegal treaty would be an act of treason.

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Treaty dos not trump Constitution

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