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URGENT: Obama to have Kerry Sign and Give Away Our Right to Bear Arms to the UN TODAY

 
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URGENT: Obama to have Kerry Sign and Give Away Our Right to Bear Arms to the UN TODAY
Secretary of State John Kerry plans to sign a controversial U.N. treaty on arms regulation on Wednesday, a senior State Department official told Fox News -- despite warnings from lawmakers that the Senate will not ratify the agreement.

A State official said the treaty would "reduce the risk that international transfers of conventional arms will be used to carry out the world's worst crimes," while protecting gun rights.

"The treaty builds on decades of cooperative efforts to stem the international, illegal, and illicit trade in conventional weapons that benefits terrorists and rogue agents," the official said.

U.S. lawmakers, though, have long claimed that the treaty could lead to new gun control measures. Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., one of the most vocal opponents of the treaty, sent a letter to Kerry declaring it "dead in the water," since a majority of senators has gone on record against the agreement.

"The administration is wasting precious time trying to sign away our laws to the global community and unelected U.N. bureaucrats," he wrote.

[link to www.foxnews.com]

[link to www.un.org]

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He can do it but just like Clinton and the rest, it won't hold water! Only the Senate can sign treaties.
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Corker Warns Obama Administration Against Any Action to Implement U.N. Arms Trade Treaty Without Senate Advice and Consent

Tuesday, September 24, 2013

WASHINGTON – Asserting the Senate’s constitutional role on treaties, U.S. Senator Bob Corker, R-Tenn., ranking member of the Foreign Relations Committee, in a letter today warned the Obama administration against taking any action to implement the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty without Senate advice and consent.

“The ATT raises significant legislative and constitutional questions. Any act to implement this treaty, provisionally or otherwise, before the Congress provides its advice and consent would be fundamentally inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution, law, and practice,” said Corker.

Full text of the letter is included below and in the attached document.

Dear President Obama,

It is my understanding that Secretary of State John Kerry will sign the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) on behalf of the United States. The ATT raises significant legislative and constitutional questions. Any act to implement this treaty, provisionally or otherwise, before the Congress provides its advice and consent would be inconsistent with the United States Constitution, law, and practice.

As you know, Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution requires the United States Senate to provide its advice and consent before a treaty becomes binding under United States law. The Senate has not yet provided its advice and consent, and may not provide such consent. As a result, the Executive Branch is not authorized to take any steps to implement the treaty.

Moreover, even after the Senate provides its advice and consent, certain treaties require changes to United States law in the form of legislation passed by both the House and Senate. The ATT is such a treaty. Various provisions of the ATT, including but not limited to those related to the regulation of imports and trade in conventional arms, require such implementing legislation and relate to matters exclusively reserved to Congress under our Constitution.

Because of the concerns discussed above, as well as the fundamental issues the ATT raises with respect to the individual rights protected by the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution, as the Ranking Member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, it is my view that you may not take any executive action to implement this treaty, provisionally or otherwise, unless and until: (1) the United States Senate has provided its constitutionally required advice and consent to its ratification; and (2) the Congress has passed any and all required legislation to bring this treaty into effect under United States domestic law.

Sincerely,

Senator Bob Corker
Ranking Member


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[link to www.foreign.senate.gov]
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Why don't we decommission the U.N. we started it!
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think what you want but here is the real reason why, well 1 example anyway..tip of the iceberg really

no matter what your P.O.V. do you really want drug dealers and thugs getting around with this kinda thing..only 1 example remember

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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think what you want but here is the real reason why, well 1 example anyway..tip of the iceberg really

no matter what your P.O.V. do you really want drug dealers and thugs getting around with this kinda thing..only 1 example remember

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47405464


What makes you think drug dealers and thugs (CIA, Mossad, M16, etc.) will obey these laws? HAHA
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think what you want but here is the real reason why, well 1 example anyway..tip of the iceberg really

no matter what your P.O.V. do you really want drug dealers and thugs getting around with this kinda thing..only 1 example remember

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47405464


What makes you think drug dealers and thugs (CIA, Mossad, M16, etc.) will obey these laws? HAHA
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


they wont..thats where martial law comes into it

safe zones will be set up and secured, if you want in you have to leave your weapons at the gate

UN resolution is just another step toward this, u will either fall in line on be left for the dogs
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walmart tard
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think what you want but here is the real reason why, well 1 example anyway..tip of the iceberg really

no matter what your P.O.V. do you really want drug dealers and thugs getting around with this kinda thing..only 1 example remember

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47405464


What makes you think drug dealers and thugs (CIA, Mossad, M16, etc.) will obey these laws? HAHA
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


they wont..thats where martial law comes into it

safe zones will be set up and secured, if you want in you have to leave your weapons at the gate

UN resolution is just another step toward this, u will either fall in line on be left for the dogs
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I would rather take my chances :)
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It doesn't become law unless the senate ratifies it.
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"treason"

Which of us mice will tie the bell around the cat's neck?
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:walmart tard:
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Really?


Okay but seriously, only God can help you guys. Forsake him and he shall forsake you. If only you knew what he has already done for you.
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Obama and Kerry are fucking lunatics.
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It doesn't become law unless the senate ratifies it.

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bullshit -- Obama can go around it!

Obama could bypass the senate using the sole-executive clause.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

A sole-executive agreement can only be negotiated and entered into through the president's authority (1) in foreign policy, (2) as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, (3) from a prior act of Congress, or (4) from a prior treaty.[1] Agreements beyond these competencies must have the approval of Congress (for congressional-executive agreements) or the Senate (for treaties).

He could claim since it's arms that it's under foreign policy/commander in chief... so he doesn't need the senate...

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I demand that the U.S Marshals ARREST these traitors TODAY! TODAY!
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Yeah, he can talk to God about my rights...I'll be handing out one-way trips to meet him to any that attempt to deny my rights.
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It doesn't become law unless the senate ratifies it.

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bullshit -- Obama can go around it!

Obama could bypass the senate using the sole-executive clause.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

A sole-executive agreement can only be negotiated and entered into through the president's authority (1) in foreign policy, (2) as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, (3) from a prior act of Congress, or (4) from a prior treaty.[1] Agreements beyond these competencies must have the approval of Congress (for congressional-executive agreements) or the Senate (for treaties).

He could claim since it's arms that it's under foreign policy/commander in chief... so he doesn't need the senate...

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... "reduce the risk that international transfers of conventional arms will be used to carry out the world's worst crimes," ....
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I'm sure the US will be immune to this considering we arm everyone.
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I demand that the U.S Marshals ARREST these traitors TODAY! TODAY!
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On what grounds?
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Corker Warns Obama Administration Against Any Action to Implement U.N. Arms Trade Treaty Without Senate Advice and Consent

Tuesday, September 24, 2013

WASHINGTON – Asserting the Senate’s constitutional role on treaties, U.S. Senator Bob Corker, R-Tenn., ranking member of the Foreign Relations Committee, in a letter today warned the Obama administration against taking any action to implement the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty without Senate advice and consent.

“The ATT raises significant legislative and constitutional questions. Any act to implement this treaty, provisionally or otherwise, before the Congress provides its advice and consent would be fundamentally inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution, law, and practice,” said Corker.

Full text of the letter is included below and in the attached document.

Dear President Obama,

It is my understanding that Secretary of State John Kerry will sign the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) on behalf of the United States. The ATT raises significant legislative and constitutional questions. Any act to implement this treaty, provisionally or otherwise, before the Congress provides its advice and consent would be inconsistent with the United States Constitution, law, and practice.

As you know, Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution requires the United States Senate to provide its advice and consent before a treaty becomes binding under United States law. The Senate has not yet provided its advice and consent, and may not provide such consent. As a result, the Executive Branch is not authorized to take any steps to implement the treaty.

Moreover, even after the Senate provides its advice and consent, certain treaties require changes to United States law in the form of legislation passed by both the House and Senate. The ATT is such a treaty. Various provisions of the ATT, including but not limited to those related to the regulation of imports and trade in conventional arms, require such implementing legislation and relate to matters exclusively reserved to Congress under our Constitution.

Because of the concerns discussed above, as well as the fundamental issues the ATT raises with respect to the individual rights protected by the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution, as the Ranking Member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, it is my view that you may not take any executive action to implement this treaty, provisionally or otherwise, unless and until: (1) the United States Senate has provided its constitutionally required advice and consent to its ratification; and (2) the Congress has passed any and all required legislation to bring this treaty into effect under United States domestic law.

Sincerely,

Senator Bob Corker
Ranking Member


OPEN PUBLIC DOCUMENT. NO COPYRIGHT INFRINGMENT.

[link to www.foreign.senate.gov]
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Congress not Senate. Congress is made up of two bodies, the Senate and the House of Rep's. As for EOs? Give me a break, a wrong EO goes out and Obama gets the shit sued out of him and he does things like firing his legal counsel. ALSO EOs are very limited in scope, he can't just blanket EO gun control, state sovereignty. Montana for example. Google it.
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No treaty can infringe on our Constitutional Rights, and the Senate will never ratify this treaty...

That being said, it can infringe on the importation of weapons for non-military use, and the importation of ammunition...
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I demand that the U.S Marshals ARREST these traitors TODAY! TODAY!
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We are at this point NOW!!!!!! Its time to make a stand AMERICA.Arrest the criminals and put in strict term limits.
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Fuck the UN!
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Why don't we decommission the U.N. we started it!
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guess you didn't get the memo.

the UN was created to form a one world govt.

'we' have no say in this.

the U.S. must be dis-integrated before the NWO can be fully established.

get ready.
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So will this stop the Obozo admin from supplying small arms to his Muslim Brotherhood buddies?
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think what you want but here is the real reason why, well 1 example anyway..tip of the iceberg really

no matter what your P.O.V. do you really want drug dealers and thugs getting around with this kinda thing..only 1 example remember

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47405464


What makes you think drug dealers and thugs (CIA, Mossad, M16, etc.) will obey these laws? HAHA
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Because then the U.S. Would be hit with crippling economic sanctions...that's why.
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So the UN is going to come and take our weapons....hahah let them try....Ill keep an eye open for their faggot looking blue helmets...

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No treaty can infringe on our Constitutional Rights, and the Senate will never ratify this treaty...

That being said, it can infringe on the importation of weapons for non-military use, and the importation of ammunition...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


bill Clinton tried to pass the anti-terrorism act twice. it failed miserably twice. then...Oklahoma city bombing. THE BILL PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY 2 WEEK LATER

George bush tried to pass the patriot act twice. it failed miserably twice. then 911. THE BILL PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY 2 WEEKS LATER

false flag anyone?

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