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TidesofTruth (OP) User ID: 19680442 United States 09/25/2013 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Corker Warns Obama Administration Against Any Action to Implement U.N. Arms Trade Treaty Without Senate Advice and Consent Tuesday, September 24, 2013 WASHINGTON – Asserting the Senate’s constitutional role on treaties, U.S. Senator Bob Corker, R-Tenn., ranking member of the Foreign Relations Committee, in a letter today warned the Obama administration against taking any action to implement the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty without Senate advice and consent. “The ATT raises significant legislative and constitutional questions. Any act to implement this treaty, provisionally or otherwise, before the Congress provides its advice and consent would be fundamentally inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution, law, and practice,” said Corker. Full text of the letter is included below and in the attached document. Dear President Obama, It is my understanding that Secretary of State John Kerry will sign the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) on behalf of the United States. The ATT raises significant legislative and constitutional questions. Any act to implement this treaty, provisionally or otherwise, before the Congress provides its advice and consent would be inconsistent with the United States Constitution, law, and practice. As you know, Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution requires the United States Senate to provide its advice and consent before a treaty becomes binding under United States law. The Senate has not yet provided its advice and consent, and may not provide such consent. As a result, the Executive Branch is not authorized to take any steps to implement the treaty. Moreover, even after the Senate provides its advice and consent, certain treaties require changes to United States law in the form of legislation passed by both the House and Senate. The ATT is such a treaty. Various provisions of the ATT, including but not limited to those related to the regulation of imports and trade in conventional arms, require such implementing legislation and relate to matters exclusively reserved to Congress under our Constitution. Because of the concerns discussed above, as well as the fundamental issues the ATT raises with respect to the individual rights protected by the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution, as the Ranking Member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, it is my view that you may not take any executive action to implement this treaty, provisionally or otherwise, unless and until: (1) the United States Senate has provided its constitutionally required advice and consent to its ratification; and (2) the Congress has passed any and all required legislation to bring this treaty into effect under United States domestic law. Sincerely, Senator Bob Corker Ranking Member OPEN PUBLIC DOCUMENT. NO COPYRIGHT INFRINGMENT. [link to www.foreign.senate.gov] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47405464 Australia 09/25/2013 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no matter what your P.O.V. do you really want drug dealers and thugs getting around with this kinda thing..only 1 example remember [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
UnmannedAerialPilot User ID: 33676178 United States 09/25/2013 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | think what you want but here is the real reason why, well 1 example anyway..tip of the iceberg really Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47405464 no matter what your P.O.V. do you really want drug dealers and thugs getting around with this kinda thing..only 1 example remember [link to en.wikipedia.org] What makes you think drug dealers and thugs (CIA, Mossad, M16, etc.) will obey these laws? HAHA |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47405464 Australia 09/25/2013 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | think what you want but here is the real reason why, well 1 example anyway..tip of the iceberg really Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47405464 no matter what your P.O.V. do you really want drug dealers and thugs getting around with this kinda thing..only 1 example remember [link to en.wikipedia.org] What makes you think drug dealers and thugs (CIA, Mossad, M16, etc.) will obey these laws? HAHA they wont..thats where martial law comes into it safe zones will be set up and secured, if you want in you have to leave your weapons at the gate UN resolution is just another step toward this, u will either fall in line on be left for the dogs |
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UnmannedAerialPilot User ID: 33676178 United States 09/25/2013 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | think what you want but here is the real reason why, well 1 example anyway..tip of the iceberg really Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47405464 no matter what your P.O.V. do you really want drug dealers and thugs getting around with this kinda thing..only 1 example remember [link to en.wikipedia.org] What makes you think drug dealers and thugs (CIA, Mossad, M16, etc.) will obey these laws? HAHA they wont..thats where martial law comes into it safe zones will be set up and secured, if you want in you have to leave your weapons at the gate UN resolution is just another step toward this, u will either fall in line on be left for the dogs I would rather take my chances :) |
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Bucephelus User ID: 47140667 United States 09/25/2013 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . bullshit -- Obama can go around it! Obama could bypass the senate using the sole-executive clause. [link to en.wikipedia.org] A sole-executive agreement can only be negotiated and entered into through the president's authority (1) in foreign policy, (2) as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, (3) from a prior act of Congress, or (4) from a prior treaty.[1] Agreements beyond these competencies must have the approval of Congress (for congressional-executive agreements) or the Senate (for treaties). He could claim since it's arms that it's under foreign policy/commander in chief... so he doesn't need the senate... . Bucephelus |
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Mr. Shatner User ID: 47412562 United States 09/25/2013 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to youtu.be (secure)] I'M SO DEPLORABLE!!! TRUMP 2020! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] On the day when the wagons come I just pray that you let me on Matthew 6:9-13 King James Version (KJV) 9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. Matthew 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47403249 United States 09/25/2013 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Bucephelus bullshit -- Obama can go around it! Obama could bypass the senate using the sole-executive clause. [link to en.wikipedia.org] A sole-executive agreement can only be negotiated and entered into through the president's authority (1) in foreign policy, (2) as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, (3) from a prior act of Congress, or (4) from a prior treaty.[1] Agreements beyond these competencies must have the approval of Congress (for congressional-executive agreements) or the Senate (for treaties). He could claim since it's arms that it's under foreign policy/commander in chief... so he doesn't need the senate... . |
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Listen_n User ID: 20805757 United States 09/25/2013 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Corker Warns Obama Administration Against Any Action to Implement U.N. Arms Trade Treaty Without Senate Advice and Consent Quoting: TidesofTruth Tuesday, September 24, 2013 WASHINGTON – Asserting the Senate’s constitutional role on treaties, U.S. Senator Bob Corker, R-Tenn., ranking member of the Foreign Relations Committee, in a letter today warned the Obama administration against taking any action to implement the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty without Senate advice and consent. “The ATT raises significant legislative and constitutional questions. Any act to implement this treaty, provisionally or otherwise, before the Congress provides its advice and consent would be fundamentally inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution, law, and practice,” said Corker. Full text of the letter is included below and in the attached document. Dear President Obama, It is my understanding that Secretary of State John Kerry will sign the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) on behalf of the United States. The ATT raises significant legislative and constitutional questions. Any act to implement this treaty, provisionally or otherwise, before the Congress provides its advice and consent would be inconsistent with the United States Constitution, law, and practice. As you know, Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution requires the United States Senate to provide its advice and consent before a treaty becomes binding under United States law. The Senate has not yet provided its advice and consent, and may not provide such consent. As a result, the Executive Branch is not authorized to take any steps to implement the treaty. Moreover, even after the Senate provides its advice and consent, certain treaties require changes to United States law in the form of legislation passed by both the House and Senate. The ATT is such a treaty. Various provisions of the ATT, including but not limited to those related to the regulation of imports and trade in conventional arms, require such implementing legislation and relate to matters exclusively reserved to Congress under our Constitution. Because of the concerns discussed above, as well as the fundamental issues the ATT raises with respect to the individual rights protected by the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution, as the Ranking Member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, it is my view that you may not take any executive action to implement this treaty, provisionally or otherwise, unless and until: (1) the United States Senate has provided its constitutionally required advice and consent to its ratification; and (2) the Congress has passed any and all required legislation to bring this treaty into effect under United States domestic law. Sincerely, Senator Bob Corker Ranking Member OPEN PUBLIC DOCUMENT. NO COPYRIGHT INFRINGMENT. [link to www.foreign.senate.gov] Loving TN right now! If we don't listen we will never hear the truth |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46185036 United States 09/25/2013 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Congress not Senate. Congress is made up of two bodies, the Senate and the House of Rep's. As for EOs? Give me a break, a wrong EO goes out and Obama gets the shit sued out of him and he does things like firing his legal counsel. ALSO EOs are very limited in scope, he can't just blanket EO gun control, state sovereignty. Montana for example. Google it. |
Saddletramp User ID: 736969 Puerto Rico 09/25/2013 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No treaty can infringe on our Constitutional Rights, and the Senate will never ratify this treaty... That being said, it can infringe on the importation of weapons for non-military use, and the importation of ammunition... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24458218 United States 09/25/2013 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | think what you want but here is the real reason why, well 1 example anyway..tip of the iceberg really Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47405464 no matter what your P.O.V. do you really want drug dealers and thugs getting around with this kinda thing..only 1 example remember [link to en.wikipedia.org] What makes you think drug dealers and thugs (CIA, Mossad, M16, etc.) will obey these laws? HAHA Because then the U.S. Would be hit with crippling economic sanctions...that's why. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34936923 United States 09/25/2013 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No treaty can infringe on our Constitutional Rights, and the Senate will never ratify this treaty... Quoting: Saddletramp That being said, it can infringe on the importation of weapons for non-military use, and the importation of ammunition... bill Clinton tried to pass the anti-terrorism act twice. it failed miserably twice. then...Oklahoma city bombing. THE BILL PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY 2 WEEK LATER George bush tried to pass the patriot act twice. it failed miserably twice. then 911. THE BILL PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY 2 WEEKS LATER false flag anyone? |
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