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Colorado woman in custody after killing suspected pedophile

 
*Evan  (OP)

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You don't have kids do you?
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I can understand her rage. I am law abiding but look at how our laws love and coodle these monsters. Don't forget Colorado refuses to implement Jessica's Law. [link to www.billoreilly.com]

We just saw this story on the news. I was outraged because once again when I read this:
A Montana teacher convicted of raping a 14-year-old student who later committed suicide will serve just 30 days in prison after a judge suspended almost his entire 15-year sentence.

Read more: [link to nation.time.com]
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I am the last person in the world to defend child molestation, but I can't condone killing someone because you suspect them of doing something. If you have the goods on someone, to the extent that you are willing to kill them because of it, then go to the authorities with it. Allow this to happen on a regular basis and innocent people will suffer.
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I agree with you 100%. However with the revolving doors on the prisons and repeat offenders, especially Sex offenders many innocent people continue to suffer. I think they should get the best fair trial and then be put away or put to death. Not to be able to repeat.
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I suspect you (AC35559772) of stealing something out of my garage. Just for that, I cutting your hands off. You'll never do that again. (Fast forward 6 months and someone else is caught stealing somewhere else and confesses to previous thefts including mine). OH! Sorry about the mistake, AC, hope you understand. No hard feelings.
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Did your child, who is familiar with me and you, see me do it and report it to you or is this just a baseless assumption?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559772

Yes AC, my three year old saw you steal from my garage and told me about it. "That's ridiculous, you rely, you're going to trust a three year old?" Well, AC, since no age is given in the molestation story, the lady could have killed a guy on the words of a three year old.
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This is the point. Our legal system (FBI) used CI's (confidential informants) in about 75% of their pleas of guilt and convictions over the last few years. CI's are rewarded through cutting deals and sometimes valuables for their testimony-their testimony is ONLY accusatory and we buy in to it.

Yet, it seems meet to argue about a child (with an age you ascribed in order to bolster your argument) and their age as credibility.

Age has zero to do with credibility. I would trust many children over most adults. In the case of a child very likely emotionally wrecked telling me of a specific person doing specific sexual acts to them, why would I not believe that? I doubt they got it from Oprah reruns.

Also, I wish thieves hands were cut off after stealing (just one the first time-and not the one they write with). If we did that and hung murders and rapists in public, I will bet anything our crime rate would plummet.
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So, you have no problem with me deciding what to do with you for violating my property? I see you live in the USA. You are OK with telling our legal justice system that we don't need them anymore? We, the public, will handle things. Police, judges and juries are not needed anymore. (I'm not saying that the legal justice system doesn't need improving, but to let anyone that has a beef against another to dish out the punishment is just ludicrous.)
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So everyone should believe her? How do you know she is not lying? How do we know the child was not lying? Perhaps something she saw on TV? Blood thirsty bunch aren't you? Mob justice will not be so sweet when you are on the receiving end of the bat.
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Anyone who doesn't applaud this lady is a supporter of

NAMBLA.
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I'd be more than curious to see your browsing history

it's usually those who have these faux outrages and these moral high grounds like you, that have the most to hide.

it's like the kid in HS that called everyone else a 'fag' for years, then you find out later on that he's a flaming homosexual
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iamwith

This Canadian is a NAMBLA supporter.
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Anyone who doesn't applaud this lady is a supporter of

NAMBLA.
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Well, by your reasoning, NAMBLA just got 1000's of new members today.
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All of whom should be beaten to death with bats also.
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Anyone who doesn't applaud this lady is a supporter of

NAMBLA.
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Well, by your reasoning, NAMBLA just got 1000's of new members today.
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All of whom should be beaten to death with bats also.
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clappa
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Good for her.

I know a few people I'd like to do that to also but never would. Leave them to their own Karma cause when shit hits the fan these animals will be rounded up first and you know...!

Mob Mentality will ensue.
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If I knew, 100%, that this guy sexually molested a child I might do the same thing. I wouldn't know unless I am in that situation. The odds go up if it's my kid and I see it.

The thing is, what if the guy didn't do anything? I need more info. for sure. This is where she's going to be in big trouble, she should have gone to the authorities.

Maybe he has a history of molesting kids, maybe that will be in her favor.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
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Anyone who doesn't applaud this lady is a supporter of

NAMBLA.
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Well, by your reasoning, NAMBLA just got 1000's of new members today.
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All of whom should be beaten to death with bats also.
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HEADLINES: "The internet forum, GLP just shut it's doors today, due to lack of members."
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in this country people have a right to a trial - those of you who cheer her act deserve the elite that rule over you.
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Anyone who doesn't applaud this lady is a supporter of

NAMBLA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46185036

Well, by your reasoning, NAMBLA just got 1000's of new members today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45446318


All of whom should be beaten to death with bats also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46185036

clappa
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Remember this human. You live in a country where you can now be imprisoned or executed because nameless parties feel you are a threat. They need no evidence. They require no trial. You have the world that you wanted. Enjoy!
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I am the last person in the world to defend child molestation, but I can't condone killing someone because you suspect them of doing something. If you have the goods on someone, to the extent that you are willing to kill them because of it, then go to the authorities with it. Allow this to happen on a regular basis and innocent people will suffer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45446318


What level of proof would satisfy you?

If your child said he/she was raped by a 40 year old man and became an emotional basket case after the fact, do you require a jury of 12 people with unknown biases, without first hand knowledge of said events and no less than 12 months later to decide for you?

I'm going to be the 30 year old (more than likely no criminal record) with a bat who hunted a stranger down and beat him to death couldn't have been more sure.
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I don't think it was her child. We don't know that the child was a basket case, the thing is, we don't know anything except a child told her the guy had molested him/her.

What if the kid was a habitual liar? Not enough information for me to say it was right to murder the guy. When and if more information is available I would better be able to say what I think.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
Heraclitus
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Anyone who doesn't applaud this lady is a supporter of

NAMBLA.
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Well, by your reasoning, NAMBLA just got 1000's of new members today.
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All of whom should be beaten to death with bats also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46185036

HEADLINES: "The internet forum, GLP just shut it's doors today, due to lack of members."
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iamwith

You NAMBLA right? Right?
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A suburban Denver woman is accused of beating a man to death with a baseball bat because she suspected him of sexually molesting a child.

Thirty-year-old Forsythia Eliese Owen of Englewood told police she killed Denzel Rainey because a child accused Rainey of sexually abusing her.


[link to www.foxnews.com]
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I would be careful if my child says this happened to them.

Just saying. I know my child and they do not see this type of tv and so if they can describe what happened and they can articulate it to me clearly.

Then...
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I am the last person in the world to defend child molestation, but I can't condone killing someone because you suspect them of doing something. If you have the goods on someone, to the extent that you are willing to kill them because of it, then go to the authorities with it. Allow this to happen on a regular basis and innocent people will suffer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45446318


What level of proof would satisfy you?

If your child said he/she was raped by a 40 year old man and became an emotional basket case after the fact, do you require a jury of 12 people with unknown biases, without first hand knowledge of said events and no less than 12 months later to decide for you?

I'm going to be the 30 year old (more than likely no criminal record) with a bat who hunted a stranger down and beat him to death couldn't have been more sure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559772


I don't think it was her child. We don't know that the child was a basket case, the thing is, we don't know anything except a child told her the guy had molested him/her.

What if the kid was a habitual liar? Not enough information for me to say it was right to murder the guy. When and if more information is available I would better be able to say what I think.
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You are right.

I am raising questions as to what premise people deem appropriate before passing judgment as to the fate of someone.

The Bible says a matter is established where 2 or 3 witnesses confirm. In the old days, the 2-3 witnesses that testified against the person had to throw the first stones. I would prefer this kind of justice, truthfully.

Confidential informants (people paid to testify against someone) and the level of morality of people today make juries irrelevant in many cases. I recently witnessed 2 jurors coming back after the fact saying "we know he didn't do it but it was Friday and we wanted to not have to come back next week but we want to fix it now" sort of deal. Too late. The guys is going to prison for 20 years because their testimony will not be enough for a new trial.

Happens all of the time-no joke.
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Well, by your reasoning, NAMBLA just got 1000's of new members today.
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All of whom should be beaten to death with bats also.
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clappa
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Remember this human. You live in a country where you can now be imprisoned or executed because nameless parties feel you are a threat. They need no evidence. They require no trial. You have the world that you wanted. Enjoy!
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Which is my I support the 2 nd amendment and weapons+land=survival.

They can martial law a city pretty easy. Try martial law in the sticks. Much harder and I'm speaking from personal experience.
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Good for her.

I know a few people I'd like to do that to also but never would. Leave them to their own Karma cause when shit hits the fan these animals will be rounded up first and you know...!

Mob Mentality will ensue.
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Well I "THINK" you are a Child Molester. Because "I" think that I HAVE THE RIGHT to kill you ... correct?

Wow ... I can think of a lot of people who I suddenly "THINK" are Child Molesters.

What a great world we live in! Free Licenses To Kill!! (at least if you couch it in the proper terms)
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I really don't think anyone here is saying we should have a "free license to kill"

Just that if the man really molested a 4 yr old, then he probly got what he deserved.
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But what if he didn't?
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
Heraclitus
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Good for her.

I know a few people I'd like to do that to also but never would. Leave them to their own Karma cause when shit hits the fan these animals will be rounded up first and you know...!

Mob Mentality will ensue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47060380


Well I "THINK" you are a Child Molester. Because "I" think that I HAVE THE RIGHT to kill you ... correct?

Wow ... I can think of a lot of people who I suddenly "THINK" are Child Molesters.

What a great world we live in! Free Licenses To Kill!! (at least if you couch it in the proper terms)
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I really don't think anyone here is saying we should have a "free license to kill"

Just that if the man really molested a 4 yr old, then he probly got what he deserved.
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But what if he didn't?
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But what if he did? You going with the Lib "Better safe than sorry" or the Con "Trust but verify"?

Either way your probably a hypocrite.
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Well I "THINK" you are a Child Molester. Because "I" think that I HAVE THE RIGHT to kill you ... correct?

Wow ... I can think of a lot of people who I suddenly "THINK" are Child Molesters.

What a great world we live in! Free Licenses To Kill!! (at least if you couch it in the proper terms)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20589235


I really don't think anyone here is saying we should have a "free license to kill"

Just that if the man really molested a 4 yr old, then he probly got what he deserved.
 Quoting: *Evan


But what if he didn't?
 Quoting: geminilion


But what if he did? You going with the Lib "Better safe than sorry" or the Con "Trust but verify"?

Either way your probably a hypocrite.
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First of all, I am far from a Liberal. All I am saying is we do not know enough about what happened to say either way that she was right in killing the guy.

If it were to come out that indeed, he did something horrible to the child I would be the first to applaud her for saving another child from the same fate because as we know these types of offenders are not ever "fixed".

How did what I post portray me as a hypocrite? I guess you're just going to believe everything you hear, this isn't the web site for you.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
Heraclitus
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if this is true i hope she gets a parade
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Well I "THINK" you are a Child Molester. Because "I" think that I HAVE THE RIGHT to kill you ... correct?

Wow ... I can think of a lot of people who I suddenly "THINK" are Child Molesters.

What a great world we live in! Free Licenses To Kill!! (at least if you couch it in the proper terms)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20589235


I really don't think anyone here is saying we should have a "free license to kill"

Just that if the man really molested a 4 yr old, then he probly got what he deserved.
 Quoting: *Evan


But what if he didn't?
 Quoting: geminilion


But what if he did? You going with the Lib "Better safe than sorry" or the Con "Trust but verify"?

Either way your probably a hypocrite.
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Either way, this guy is dead, guilty or innocent.
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Can we give her an award of some kind?
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If he were caught in the act I'd support her 100%.

Unfortunately for her she is effed. She's probably looking at 1st degree murder since she got her bat and went out looking for him with the intention of beating him and possibly killing him.

I hope she gets a jury filled with parents.
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Owen's record in the Colorado Bureau of Investigation database shows she was found guilty of assault involving a drugged victim in 2002 after two other assault charges were dropped by the DA. She was also arrested for a 2004 probation violation. [link to sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com]

This woman does have a history of taking care of things herself but to me children are sacred. We are to protect them. As I said before CO loves sex offenders. They refuse to truly punish them.
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Good for her.

I know a few people I'd like to do that to also but never would. Leave them to their own Karma cause when shit hits the fan these animals will be rounded up first and you know...!

Mob Mentality will ensue.
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Pedaphiles have more rights then any of you and me. Throw in gays too.
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Welcome to the 2coin satan club 1doh1
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Oh look, GLP's resident pedophile defense league has arrived.
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As you wish, you dident get what i wrote did you?
Then you must be in the knee jerk club
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I really don't think anyone here is saying we should have a "free license to kill"

Just that if the man really molested a 4 yr old, then he probly got what he deserved.
 Quoting: *Evan


But what if he didn't?
 Quoting: geminilion


But what if he did? You going with the Lib "Better safe than sorry" or the Con "Trust but verify"?

Either way your probably a hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46020888


First of all, I am far from a Liberal. All I am saying is we do not know enough about what happened to say either way that she was right in killing the guy.

If it were to come out that indeed, he did something horrible to the child I would be the first to applaud her for saving another child from the same fate because as we know these types of offenders are not ever "fixed".

How did what I post portray me as a hypocrite? I guess you're just going to believe everything you hear, this isn't the web site for you.
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"But what if he didn't?" Is my why I'm assuming hypocrite. As for the site being for me or not, who are you to judge me?

Being a voice of reason is one thing. Such as, "I hope he got what he deserved, but what if he didn't?" This would be an operative approach, but we are typing here so I'm assuming your a NAMBLA supporter. Much like your assuming about me.
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I am the last person in the world to defend child molestation, but I can't condone killing someone because you suspect them of doing something. If you have the goods on someone, to the extent that you are willing to kill them because of it, then go to the authorities with it. Allow this to happen on a regular basis and innocent people will suffer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45446318


What level of proof would satisfy you?

If your child said he/she was raped by a 40 year old man and became an emotional basket case after the fact, do you require a jury of 12 people with unknown biases, without first hand knowledge of said events and no less than 12 months later to decide for you?

I'm going to be the 30 year old (more than likely no criminal record) with a bat who hunted a stranger down and beat him to death couldn't have been more sure.
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For the record - I have a Daughter & if I had caught someone abusing her I won't go into the details of what I would do but suffice it to say it would not be quick or pretty. If she accused someone but I had not noticed a change in her behavior I have a couple of different ways that I'd deal with it, most involve the cops, at some point.
We have 3 different Family members who, at one time or another, have FALSELY accused other Family members(& a Teacher) a sexually abusing them. Two of them did it because they "were mad". The Teacher was accused for taking her cell phone away & when she got in trouble, by her Step Father(he has been in her life since she was 2 & has always called him Dad), she accused him. It was several weeks before she admitted that she made it all up. The second one accused a cousin, the Families lived about a block apart & the two Families spent a LOT of time together, well, they did PRIOR to her "getting mad" & damn near ruining his life. The last one at least has a legitimate excuse. She went through a HORRIFIC case of Postpartum Psychosis. She spent 4-5 days straight, with ZERO sleep & the following 2 weeks in a Psychiatric Hospital, during which she spent 24-36 hours singing & ONLY singing. She, quite literally, sang EVERYTHING that came out of her mouth. Questions, answers, talking to herself & talking to/with others. She was VERY self conscious of the weight that she had gained, during her pregnancy, but decided, during her "break from reality", that clothing was "ridiculous & if our Most High, Heavenly Father had wanted us to wear clothes we wouldn't be born naked", took ALL of her clothes off, ran around the Hospital, singing, dancing & having a grand old time, until they restrained & sedated her. It wasn't until they gave her a robe, which her Husband brought her from Home & a tiara & convinced her that she was a "beautiful Princess" that she would stay covered up for any length of time. She then told her Mother off, in spectacular & spectacularly vulgar fashion & accused her own Father of sexually abusing her for the majority of her Childhood, starting "as early as she could remember, he pretty much did it all of her life, until the moved, when she was 11 or 12". Even though her Father knew that she was making it up, as did EVERYONE ELSE, it still bothers him, nearly 5 years later.

Why did I take the time to write this wall-o-text? To give a different perspective & to say that, though I am a Father &have VERY strong feelings & thoughts on the matter........sometimes, for any of a number of reasons.......kids lie.
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