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Only those who VOLUNTARILY choose to get sterilized will receive the gift of the IMMORTALITY SERUM

 
Chairman of the HLO
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Greetings.

I would like to tell you all HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK.


The IMMORTALITY SERUM will be a gift for humanity.

The immortality serum will be the fountain of youth. It will stop ageing. You will be young forever (or keep your current stage of ageing forever). You will live forever (unless you get run over by a bus, or something like that - you will not be Superman, don't forget it).


But we can't give the immortality serum for everyone.


If people get the immortality serum and STILL have children, in just a few hundred years the Earth will be overcrowded.



So, it will be a VOLUNTARY OPTION:

Only people who accept to get STERILIZED, so they can't have children, will be given the immortality serum.

That's the deal.


A fair deal.




No, not "forced sterilization".


No-one will be forced to get sterilized.


It's a choice that you have to make: to have kids, or live forever?


People who already have children when the immortality serum is revealed to the public can STILL get the serum, if they agree to get sterilized, so they can not have MORE children than those they already have.


After the "transition period" of six months, then the rules will change: if you have any kids, you are out. You can't get the serum.

Of course YOUR KID can get the serum IF when he or she reaches the age of 18 years old and he or she makes the voluntary option to get sterilized. So, your kid can become immortal, but not you.


Again: you don't have to worry if you already have children NOW, before the public disclosure of the serum. You won't be banned from get the serum because of that. The rule will only apply after the disclosure.


This is the fair way to prevent Earth from get too overcrowded.

You want to be young forever, and live forever? OK, but you can't have children. If you want to have kids, you can't be immortal, that's not fair.


It will be a PERSONAL option, and everyone will be free to make their choice.


To live forever, or to have children? That will be your choice.




Thanks for you attention,


The Chairman of the HLO (Humanity Liberation Organization)
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Just out of curiosity, what will be the option of most people here?
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I will take the serum.
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I will take the serum.
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Serum - 1

Kids - 0
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Just out of curiosity, what will be the option of most people here?
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Gimme the fire from the gods, I AM WORTHY!



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Just out of curiosity, what will be the option of most people here?
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Gimme the fire from the gods, I AM WORTHY!




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OK.

You will get it, after the vasectomy.
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09/25/2013 08:44 PM
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I will take the serum.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47430115



Serum - 1

Kids - 0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47435048


what if you already have kids?
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I will take the serum.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47430115



Serum - 1

Kids - 0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47435048


hf


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Just out of curiosity, what will be the option of most people here?
 Quoting: Prometheus 47435048


Gimme the fire from the gods, I AM WORTHY!




 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47430115



OK.

You will get it, after the vasectomy.
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Wonderful.


I am ready.
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If you opt to have kids, your option will be respected.

No-one will kill you for that.

But you will keep ageing in the "old style". Your body will decay, and eventually you will get a heart failure, kidney failure, a stroke, or something like that. Natural death when you are 80 or 90 years old.

That was your option.
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I will take the serum.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47430115



Serum - 1

Kids - 0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47435048


what if you already have kids?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47431570




It's explained in the text.

The rule only will be enforced AFTER the public disclosure.

If you already kids, you still can get the serum, if you accept to get sterilized to not have MORE children.

Only after the disclosure the rule will change, and after having ONE kid you will be out. But that rule will only apply after the disclosure.
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There is only one problem.

They will have to allow some to procreate, to offset death by accidents, death by diseases, etc.

And if they were smart, they would store a backup supply of sperm and eggs from all humans, and keep at least 20% to be able to naturally procreate, just in case things go terribly terribly wrong.

I would take the immortality serum only if it totally guaranteed perfect health, free from all physical/mental/emotional conditions, and absolutely no breakdown of functions and organs, including cognitive.
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I would not take the serum because it will not be foolproof -science cannot even get vaccines right.
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We believe that most people will opt for immortality.

Only around 20% of the world population will opt for not being immortal, and still have kids, according to our estimates.


That will drastically reduce the rate of increase of the world population.

The population of Earth will not reach 10 billion people before the year 3,000
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There is only one problem.

They will have to allow some to procreate, to offset death by accidents, death by diseases, etc.

And if they were smart, they would store a backup supply of sperm and eggs from all humans, and keep at least 20% to be able to naturally procreate, just in case things go terribly terribly wrong.

I would take the immortality serum only if it totally guaranteed perfect health, free from all physical/mental/emotional conditions, and absolutely no breakdown of functions and organs, including cognitive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3937774




"They will have to allow some to procreate"?

No need to "allow" anyone...

We're sure that around 20% of the population, for religious reasons, or philosophical reasons, will opt out.

That's enough to offset accidental deaths.

In fact, we believe the world population will still increase year after year, but at a much slower pace than today.

The total won't reach 10 billion before the year 3000
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Well, there will be a downside for those who opt to live forever.

The concept of "retirement" will need to be redefined...

Only people who choose to have kids and not be immortal will be allowed to retire.


But if you are young forever, there is no reason for you to ever "retire".


Of course we will have to compensate the absence of "retirement" by allowing year-long vacations each 10 or 20 years...
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Free implant device to ? As bonus? Daily logs
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Through Christ, we have eternal life. This is the oldest trick in the book, ye shall not fool me deceiver.
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Re: Only those who VOLUNTARILY choose to get sterilized will receive the gift of the IMMORTALITY SERUM
We believe that most people will opt for immortality.

Only around 20% of the world population will opt for not being immortal, and still have kids, according to our estimates.


That will drastically reduce the rate of increase of the world population.

The population of Earth will not reach 10 billion people before the year 3,000
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47435048



But there will have to some that should not qualify for immortality. What if some psycho serial killer who hasnt been caught was immortal, does humanity really want to put up with that sort of shit forever?

What about people that are completely stupid? Or what about people who are assholes (by which I mean like an asshole who tortures animals for fun)? Or what about ones who dont give a shit about life or hurting people?

Should they really be given the option to live forever?
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What a miserable existence.

No thanks.
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Through Christ, we have eternal life. This is the oldest trick in the book, ye shall not fool me deceiver.
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Don't want to "take the mark of the Beast"?

OK.

No-one will force you.

You will be in that 20% we were talking about.

We have already accounted for that.

In fact, we need Christians like you, who "refuse to take the mark" (well, well, we're sure this is how you will call it) so we can have new children to replace people who die in accidents.

You're welcome.
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We believe that most people will opt for immortality.

Only around 20% of the world population will opt for not being immortal, and still have kids, according to our estimates.


That will drastically reduce the rate of increase of the world population.

The population of Earth will not reach 10 billion people before the year 3,000
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But there will have to some that should not qualify for immortality. What if some psycho serial killer who hasnt been caught was immortal, does humanity really want to put up with that sort of shit forever?

What about people that are completely stupid? Or what about people who are assholes (by which I mean like an asshole who tortures animals for fun)? Or what about ones who dont give a shit about life or hurting people?

Should they really be given the option to live forever?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3937774




Well, the criminal law of the future will have to deal with cases like that...

Should people convicted for muder be allowed to get the serum? I think not... But that's my personal opinion. The Congress elected in free elections by the people will decide that.

And "stupid people" is subjective criteria. We can't ban people from getting the serum based on such subjective criteria. And "stupid people" also have the right to live and be happy forever.
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This would instantly trigger the biblical apocalypse, as mankind is not supposed to live forever, or even for more than 120 years. When God drove Adam and Eve out of Eden for taking from the Tree of Knowledge, he explicitely forbade them from ever taking from the Tree of Life again, dooming them to mortality.

He also put Seraphim into place that guard access to the Tree of Life. These are the same angelic beings that will devastate Earth during the Apocalypse.

Woe to those who accept the mark of the beast for they will be tormented in hellfire for all eternity.
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This would instantly trigger the biblical apocalypse, as mankind is not supposed to live forever, or even for more than 120 years. When God drove Adam and Eve out of Eden for taking from the Tree of Knowledge, he explicitely forbade them from ever taking from the Tree of Life again, dooming them to mortality.

He also put Seraphim into place that guard access to the Tree of Life. These are the same angelic beings that will devastate Earth during the Apocalypse.

Woe to those who accept the mark of the beast for they will be tormented in hellfire for all eternity.
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Let's see...

You can opt out, and not take the serum, due to your religious beliefs.

Freedom of religion is a sacred right in the New World Order.

NO "one world religion" will be enforced in ANY WAY.

Christians will have TOTAL FREEDOM to preach their beliefs.

And we will wait to see if "God will unleash the Apocalypse" because of the serum...


We will just wait and see... Or just wait, wait, wait, and wait, and wait and...

yawn
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By the way, there will not be any racial or religious discrimination in the distribution of the serum.


Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, blacks, whites, Asians, everyone can get the serum, as long as accepts to get sterilized.


Immortality is for all who choose it.
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We're sure that around 20% of the population, for religious reasons, or philosophical reasons, will opt out.

That's enough to offset accidental deaths.

In fact, we believe the world population will still increase year after year, but at a much slower pace than today.

The total won't reach 10 billion before the year 3000
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Thats not good. That means two things.

#1. Individuals with those ideals, will be the only ones creating offspring that are inclined to pick up traits of their parents. Hence, crazy religious nutbags (like those who like to blow up others) will seal their genetic traits by creating more of themselves which will eventually outnumber the immortals.

#2. A divide will form between immortals and mortals, in a struggle for power and control. So eventually there would be a war between the two, leading to one side eradicating the other.


So for it to work in the long run, the immortals would have to leave Earth and find a new place of their own.
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I Already Have Kids And Cant Have Anymore Due To Medical Issues And I Still Wouldnt Take It Who Wants To Live In This Shithole Forever Id Rather Die And Go To Heaven And Be An Imortal Spirit Can You Imagine Another Obama Type In Office ForeverRathar Die In The Future We Will Have No Rights anyway
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question is , why would you want to be here for ever?
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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We're sure that around 20% of the population, for religious reasons, or philosophical reasons, will opt out.

That's enough to offset accidental deaths.

In fact, we believe the world population will still increase year after year, but at a much slower pace than today.

The total won't reach 10 billion before the year 3000
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47435048


Thats not good. That means two things.

#1. Individuals with those ideals, will be the only ones creating offspring that are inclined to pick up traits of their parents. Hence, crazy religious nutbags (like those who like to blow up others) will seal their genetic traits by creating more of themselves which will eventually outnumber the immortals.

#2. A divide will form between immortals and mortals, in a struggle for power and control. So eventually there would be a war between the two, leading to one side eradicating the other.


So for it to work in the long run, the immortals would have to leave Earth and find a new place of their own.
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#1. We are 100% that religious fanatism is not a "genetic trait". The son of a fanatic not necessarily will be a fanatic. The initial number of "mortals" will be much lower than that of "immortals", since we believe over 80% of the population will opt for immortality. So, the growth of the "mortal population" will take thousands of years to outnumber the immortals. And remember that the son of a mortal can choose to become an immortal, the door is open for everyone. And even if the mortal population outnumbers the immortal population some day, what is the problem? It's not a problem at all.


#2. There is no reason for divide. Everyone should respect each other's option. Immortals should respect the option of the mortals, and vice versa. Everyone will have the same right to VOTE, everyone will be equal citizens, so there will be no reason for "war".
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I Already Have Kids And Cant Have Anymore Due To Medical Issues And I Still Wouldnt Take It Who Wants To Live In This Shithole Forever Id Rather Die And Go To Heaven And Be An Imortal Spirit Can You Imagine Another Obama Type In Office ForeverRathar Die In The Future We Will Have No Rights anyway
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OK.

Go find your Creator, then...

It's your option.
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question is , why would you want to be here for ever?
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Because it's the most fun planet on the entire galaxy?


I want to stay... If you don't, feel free to get old and die.

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