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Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?

 
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Here is Hollywood's version. LOL


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Definetely the truth! lol
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Surprisingly, this is a pretty good book. Very clever. The movie was ok.
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we Rebs won't make the same mistakes
next time around ;)
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
Because we were the bad guys. The bad guys always lose. Jeez, don't you watch TV?
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
The north used forced conscription of irish immigrants literally as soon as they stepped off the boat, and used the freeing of slaves as a force multiplier.
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
The south had more style when it came to the color of their uniforms
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What uniforms? They wore civilian clothes, uniforms from dead Yankees, or rags. By the end many were without boots or shoes.

The answer is simple. The north had more men and more resources than the south.

It is also forgotten that many blacks fought for the Confederacy.

The "un-United States" (at that time) is the only country in the history of the world that ended slavery by a devastating war. All other countries ended slavery by outlawing it or letting it run it course. It does not work in the long run.

And there were slaves in the north at the time of the civil war. Lincoln only freed the slaves in the southern states, where at the time he had no authority. The ones in the north were still remained slaves at the time.

Initially the war was not about slavery, it was about states' rights. The north was industrialized and the south was agricultural. They really were, and in many ways today, are two different countries. The southern states believed they had a right to independence and that they could back out of the Union at any time. And when they backed out and tried to form a confederacy of states. that Union would not allow it.

Today we hear of states wanting to leave the Union for one reason or another. They seem to forget what happened in the 1860's. It would happen again.
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
The South was in position to win the war. However, the Battle of Gettysburg was pivotal and mistakes were made at Picket's charge.

I have heard different reasons about why Picket's Charge went sour, from he shouldn't have done it to begin with, to problems with communications/orders, to not taking down a particular fence first, which caused the assaulting South to have to climb it under fire. Either way, this was the pivotal event. If the South had won Gettysburg, then there was a strong likelihood it would have won the war.
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The South was in position to win the war. However, the Battle of Gettysburg was pivotal and mistakes were made at Picket's charge.

I have heard different reasons about why Picket's Charge went sour, from he shouldn't have done it to begin with, to problems with communications/orders, to not taking down a particular fence first, which caused the assaulting South to have to climb it under fire. Either way, this was the pivotal event. If the South had won Gettysburg, then there was a strong likelihood it would have won the war.
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The South should never had crossed over into Yankee territory. Would have had a better chance if they had stayed on their own soil.
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It didn't end yet, see 911
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If Stonewall Jackson was alive at Gettysburg, Lee would have won. As it was, Lee didn't listen to his subordinates who wanted to swing between Washington and the Yankee army, which would have forced the Federals to attack Lee on defensive ground of his choice. If Lee would have won, the North probably would have considered at least a ceasefire. Picketts charge was insane and suicidal.
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The South wasn't as treacherous as the north was. If anyone today did what Sherman did to the South, they would be brought up before the Hague for war crimes.

After the war, many northerners came down and scooped up land for a steal and instituted their legal form of slavery known as sharecropping.

And if slavery was so awful, why did butcher abe stop at freeing the slaves of the South. Slavery was still an institution elsewhere in the world, where was his moral imperative to free them???
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
Gettysburg was the turning point. The south was destroying the north in almost every battle, and pushing them back until they met in Gettysburg.
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My great great great grandfather Manoah Bissette was with Pettigrew's divison on that day.

I went to the Gettysburg battlefield a few years back, stood at the copse of trees at the angle, and cried. It was at that location 150 years ago that the people of the United States lost their freedom of self determination in government.

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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
smaller and weaker than the rest of the country
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
the brits bankrolled the north because the usa would be too strong of an empire if it had that much labor for free
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
usa = a lot more fertile land than the uk

fertile land = lots of workers

workers are slaves = extreme profits
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
the confederate currency was made worthless by the British government banning the South's cotton exports.

counterfeiting operations also.

cotton was what backed their money the most.

no confederate currency, they couldn't do nuthin
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THIS ^^^^
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
Official death toll shows in battle south had 10:1. Kill ratio. If supplies were available the war would have been easily won by the south.
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And a better world it would have been, with a NEUTERED central Government and ALL the power divested to the individual states and those who live there.

Indeed, the victory of the North over the South was the first gasp of the newborn Dictatorial monstrosity we are saddled with today.
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Excellent post. Seconded.
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
lincoln was ruthless, he made northerners fight or they would be starved to death in horrible prisons, while the south was fighting with willing volunteers, the south was outnumbered. the north had a slash and burn policy,they sent massive armies and ripped up the railroads and burned down the farms and businesses in the south.
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clappa

Lincoln was a tyrannical monster!
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Last eyewitness of Lincoln's assassination!
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
Gettysburg was the turning point. The south was destroying the north in almost every battle, and pushing them back until they met in Gettysburg. The northerners dug in on a hill, and essentially camped their spots while the southerners got obliterated trying to move up the hill.

This sealed the deal essentially, and was a miscalculation by the general because he wanted to keep pushing hard. The south kicked the shit out of the north though overall considering they had less equipment, and industry. Also lincoln was a tyrant, and threw anyone in jail who disagreed with him. He should have let the confederacy be on their own, but he was greedy, and needed their warm water ports along with revenues.

Slavery had nothing to do with the civil war, and it was all brain washing in school to make you think that.
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clappabattleflag
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True. Of course they don't teach you these things in school. The civil war was the turning point for central government control. As much as I despise the concept of slavery, I despise big, powerful centralized government more. Just think how different this country (and the world) would be had the outcome been different.
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
Why and how did they lose? Just interested....
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
the brits bankrolled the north because the usa would be too strong of an empire if it had that much labor for free
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brits bankrolled both sides

and with the north winning, they were able to collect the debts from the south even up until 1939
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
The north had the industry and the infrastructure to get it there (better roads, rail).
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
Gettysburg was the turning point. The south was destroying the north in almost every battle, and pushing them back until they met in Gettysburg. The northerners dug in on a hill, and essentially camped their spots while the southerners got obliterated trying to move up the hill.

This sealed the deal essentially, and was a miscalculation by the general because he wanted to keep pushing hard. The south kicked the shit out of the north though overall considering they had less equipment, and industry. Also lincoln was a tyrant, and threw anyone in jail who disagreed with him. He should have let the confederacy be on their own, but he was greedy, and needed their warm water ports along with revenues.

Slavery had nothing to do with the civil war, and it was all brain washing in school to make you think that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47453589


This times 1000! I've been saying that for years. Not only was it NOT about slavery but the union soldiers fought like monsters and killed civilians (including women, children and even slaves left behind) yeah, the one's they were "fighting to free". The north didn't want anyone to know what the war was really about, and all the horrible things they did during the years it went on, so they made up a noble story for the history books and made themselves look like hero’s and made the southerners live with it.
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
Gettysburg was the turning point. The south was destroying the north in almost every battle, and pushing them back until they met in Gettysburg. The northerners dug in on a hill, and essentially camped their spots while the southerners got obliterated trying to move up the hill.

This sealed the deal essentially, and was a miscalculation by the general because he wanted to keep pushing hard. The south kicked the shit out of the north though overall considering they had less equipment, and industry. Also lincoln was a tyrant, and threw anyone in jail who disagreed with him. He should have let the confederacy be on their own, but he was greedy, and needed their warm water ports along with revenues.

Slavery had nothing to do with the civil war, and it was all brain washing in school to make you think that.
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clappabattleflag
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True. Of course they don't teach you these things in school. The civil war was the turning point for central government control. As much as I despise the concept of slavery, I despise big, powerful centralized government more. Just think how different this country (and the world) would be had the outcome been different.
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I agree! I don't believe in slavery either, but that war pretty much ushered in the whole "centralized government" concept. And look how well that worked out...... now we get to have Obummercare shoved down our throats.
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
insufficient number of railroad lines
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no real telegraph network
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
the brits bankrolled the north because the usa would be too strong of an empire if it had that much labor for free
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brits bankrolled both sides

and with the north winning, they were able to collect the debts from the south even up until 1939
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Re: Why did the Confederacy/South lose the Civil War?
the brits bankrolled the north because the usa would be too strong of an empire if it had that much labor for free
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brits bankrolled both sides

and with the north winning, they were able to collect the debts from the south even up until 1939
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interesting....although i don't consider that to be traditional 'debt' as in borrowed money debt-- money borrowed to purchase the weapons and finance the war itself
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As a honest-to-God real Southerner, I'm glad to see that a few people are beginning to see that the American Civil War (Also known as the War of Northern Aggression!) had many issues, and freeing the slaves from those evil Southerners was not the primary (or even an important secondary) reason for the War.

So in true Southern tradition, "Bless y'all's hearts!"
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As a honest-to-God real Southerner, I'm glad to see that a few people are beginning to see that the American Civil War (Also known as the War of Northern Aggression!) had many issues, and freeing the slaves from those evil Southerners was not the primary (or even an important secondary) reason for the War.

So in true Southern tradition, "Bless y'all's hearts!"
 Quoting: AlphaB


Quite the opposite. It wasn't about "freeing the slaves", it was about stealing the slaves from the south. The north never intended to free them, they were shuffling them off into their industrial slavery model.

People that glorify the north with all their "freeing slaves" tripe are the worst kind of ignorant.

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