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Hydra User ID: 47432278 Germany 09/26/2013 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | doubtful that mars will alter ison's course. mars does not possess a singular magnetic shield as does the earth but rather multiple localized magnetic muons. the strength of mars magnetic strength is a great deal to that of the earth's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47175432 It's Gravity that's involved - not Magnetism. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Karlos User ID: 47455088 United Kingdom 09/26/2013 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, May 19th 1910 There was a lot of hype at the time.......and nothing untoward happened. And it's 'Halley' by the way. Did you realise that we pass through the trail of debris left behind by Halley, twice every year? It causes the 'Orionids' shower in late October, and the 'Eta Aquarids' in early May. Most of the regular meteor showers are caused by comet debris (and a few by asteroids) Lyrids - Comet Thatcher Perseids - Swift-Tuttle Leonids - Tempel-Tuttle Geminids - (Asteroid 3200 Phaethon) etc, etc.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15740069 United States 09/26/2013 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One time when Nibiru came through it swept through the asteroid belt and dislodged a bunch of them. They rained down on earth and mars. Mars's atmosphere was destroyed then. And also the way station that the annunaki had on mars was destroyed. At least according to Enki. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47474660 United States 09/26/2013 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One time when Nibiru came through it swept through the asteroid belt and dislodged a bunch of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069 They rained down on earth and mars. Mars's atmosphere was destroyed then. And also the way station that the annunaki had on mars was destroyed. At least according to Enki. In other words, complete bullshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43776568 United Kingdom 09/26/2013 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON will encounter Mars near directly over the north pole on Oct 1st. NASA's JPL, and indeed all orbital diagrams relied upon ]do not factor planetary encounter circumstances! And since ISON will be so close to Mars, there is sure to be orbital change, due to the gravitational effects of both bodies! The possible end result is that Mars will (gravitationally) fling ISON towards Earth! Quoting: Kalki 12772450 If the Electric Universe Theory is correct, ISON may have built up a huge charge that could be triggered by proximity to Mars. Every action has an equal, and opposite, reaction ... so there may be some delta V. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43776568 United Kingdom 09/26/2013 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | doubtful that mars will alter ison's course. mars does not possess a singular magnetic shield as does the earth but rather multiple localized magnetic muons. the strength of mars magnetic strength is a great deal to that of the earth's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47175432 It's Gravity that's involved - not Magnetism. . The Universe works on electricity, not gravity. |
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nuniabeezewax User ID: 47473634 United States 09/26/2013 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON will encounter Mars near directly over the north pole on Oct 1st. NASA's JPL, and indeed all orbital diagrams relied upon ]do not factor planetary encounter circumstances! And since ISON will be so close to Mars, there is sure to be orbital change, due to the gravitational effects of both bodies! The possible end result is that Mars will (gravitationally) fling ISON towards Earth! Quoting: Kalki 12772450 I hope it turns out to be a UFO sent here to destroy the Dragon King! or some shit like that WAKE THE FUUUUUCK UP! -Love Anonymous Where we come from: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] OMG VERY EDUCATIONAL: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] They use religion, and yes, even your HOLY BIBLE to control you. Jesus wasnt the son of god: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Hydra User ID: 47432278 Germany 09/26/2013 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON will encounter Mars near directly over the north pole on Oct 1st. NASA's JPL, and indeed all orbital diagrams relied upon ]do not factor planetary encounter circumstances! And since ISON will be so close to Mars, there is sure to be orbital change, due to the gravitational effects of both bodies! The possible end result is that Mars will (gravitationally) fling ISON towards Earth! Quoting: Kalki 12772450 If the Electric Universe Theory is correct, ISON may have built up a huge charge that could be triggered by proximity to Mars. Every action has an equal, and opposite, reaction ... so there may be some delta V. If the Electric Universe Theory were correct, the sun would go out in less than one second. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1744109 Canada 09/26/2013 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its an EU universe alright. Here are some educational links: [link to www.electricuniverse.info] [link to www.thunderbolts.info] The Essential Guide to the Electric Universe (EG2EU) The Cosmic Thunderbolt Pt. 1 | From "Symbols of an Alien Sky" Episode 3 The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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Hydra User ID: 47432278 Germany 09/26/2013 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its an EU universe alright. Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn Here are some educational links: [link to www.electricuniverse.info] [link to www.thunderbolts.info] The Essential Guide to the Electric Universe (EG2EU) The Cosmic Thunderbolt Pt. 1 | From "Symbols of an Alien Sky" Episode 3 Yep - Thunderbold = Solar Resistor Model "The "Solar Resistor Model" raises a number of ... questions which the EU proponents don't address but which I will ask here. * Long current streams unconfined by wires are subject to a number of instabilities. How does the EU model prevent these instabilities from switching off the Sun in short timescales? Have they calculated the timescale for this process? * Since the EU model rules out an internal mechanism for powering the Sun, what drives the 22-year solar magnetic cycle that is responsible for the 11-year solar sunspot cycle? How does an approximately steady current (driving a relatively constant luminosity) drive this mechanism? * What is the origin of the current? I regard this as the true mystery of the Electric Cosmos that they never seem to talk about. * If you can correct the problem of the magnetic field being too large, how do you solve the problem that the field is pointed in the wrong direction compared to the measured solar field? * If you claim nuclear reactions are taking place on the solar surface, specify which reactions! * I see no description of the optical effects due to Thomson scattering from the incoming electron streams. At the densities implied by these models, we should see bright columns from the north & south poles of the Sun during eclipses." [link to dealingwithcreationisminastronomy.blogspot.de] Perhaps you can solve this problems. . Last Edited by Hydra on 09/26/2013 04:56 PM :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45796083 United Kingdom 09/26/2013 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could the martian atmosphere act as a siding spring and set the comet on an unpredictable path? Are more comets coming than in the past ? Or has our ability to detect them just improved ? I suppose there is no way to know.. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 09/26/2013 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro if siding spring does hit mars, how much risk would there be to earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45796083 Could the martian atmosphere act as a siding spring and set the comet on an unpredictable path? Are more comets coming than in the past ? Or has our ability to detect them just improved ? I suppose there is no way to know.. Actually the number of comets detected so far this year and last is less than in recent years. If Siding Spring hits mars there won't be a comet left, it will vaporize on impact. I haven't calculated the amount of ejecta such an impact would produce, or how much of it would be expected to exceed martian escape velocity. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15740069 United States 09/27/2013 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One time when Nibiru came through it swept through the asteroid belt and dislodged a bunch of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069 They rained down on earth and mars. Mars's atmosphere was destroyed then. And also the way station that the annunaki had on mars was destroyed. At least according to Enki. In other words, complete bullshit. Upon the Earth the warmth was rising, vegetation flourished, wild creatures overran the land; The rains were heavier, rivers were gushing, abodes repairing needed. Upon the Earth the heat was increasing, the snow white parts to water were melting, The bars of the seas the oceans were not containing. From the depths of the Earth volcanoes were fire and brimstones belching, The grounds were trembling, each time the Earth was shaking. In the Lower World, the snow white-hued place, the Earth was grumbling; At the tip of the Abzu, Enki a place for observing established, To his son Nergal and his spouse Ereshkigal command thereof he entrusted. A thing unknown, an untoward thing, thereunder is brewing! Nei-gal to his father Enki said. In Nibru-ki, the place of the Bond Heaven-Earth, Enlil the heavenly circuits was watching, There is turmoil in the heavens! Enlil to his brother Enki said. From the planet Lahrnu (Mars), the place of the way station, Marduk to Enki his father was complaining: Strong winds are disturbing, annoying dust storms they are raising! So Marduk to his father Enki words was beaming: In the Hammered Bracelet, turmoils are occurring! Upon the Earth, brimstones from the skies were falling. Pitiless demons havoc causing, violently the Earth they approached, Into flaming fires in the skies they were bursting. In a clear day darkness they were causing, with storms and Evil Winds they raged around. Like stony missiles the Earth they were attacking, Kingu, Earth's Moon, and Lahmu too by these havocs were afflicted, The faces of all three with countless scars were covered! Enlil and Enki to Anu the king urgent words were beaming, Nibiru's savants they alerted: The Earth and the Moon and Lahmu a calamity unknown are facing! From Nibiru the savants were responding; their words the leaders' hearts were not calming: In the heavens the family of the Sun were taking stations, The celestials of whom Earth is the seventh in a row were choosing places. In the heavens Nibiru was approaching, the Sun's abode it was nearing. - Book of Enki |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42114881 United States 09/27/2013 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know about the mars encounter causing ISON to hit earth, but it is rather interesting how the orbit takes it within 7m km... This type of encounter is the same thing we do with space probes to adjust their orbits. Quoting: Billy_Sastard Where did you get these numbers? University of YouTube? E.g. Voyager 1 passed Jupiter at a distance of 349,000 kilometers and Saturn at 124,000 kilometers to gain speed and change the orbit. A little difference to your 7 million kilometers, isn't it? . And no tonly is the distance much farther, but the mass of the rplanet involved is miniscule compared to either Jupiter or Saturn. It's approacjhing a much smaller body (Mars) at a much greater distance... This encounter isn't going to do a damn thing to Ison's trajectory. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19064274 Canada 09/28/2013 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON will encounter Mars near directly over the north pole on Oct 1st. NASA's JPL, and indeed all orbital diagrams relied upon ]do not factor planetary encounter circumstances! And since ISON will be so close to Mars, there is sure to be orbital change, due to the gravitational effects of both bodies! The possible end result is that Mars will (gravitationally) fling ISON towards Earth! Quoting: Kalki 12772450 If the Electric Universe Theory is correct, ISON may have built up a huge charge that could be triggered by proximity to Mars. Every action has an equal, and opposite, reaction ... so there may be some delta V. If the Electric Universe Theory were correct, the sun would go out in less than one second. . good chance that "less than one second" is billions of years to us, based on our perception of time. think aboot it! ;} |
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#Geomagnetic_Storm# User ID: 44557506 United States 09/28/2013 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. It won't. |
Hydra User ID: 47531162 Germany 09/28/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON will encounter Mars near directly over the north pole on Oct 1st. NASA's JPL, and indeed all orbital diagrams relied upon ]do not factor planetary encounter circumstances! And since ISON will be so close to Mars, there is sure to be orbital change, due to the gravitational effects of both bodies! The possible end result is that Mars will (gravitationally) fling ISON towards Earth! Quoting: Kalki 12772450 If the Electric Universe Theory is correct, ISON may have built up a huge charge that could be triggered by proximity to Mars. Every action has an equal, and opposite, reaction ... so there may be some delta V. If the Electric Universe Theory were correct, the sun would go out in less than one second. . good chance that "less than one second" is billions of years to us, based on our perception of time. think aboot it! ;} Wrong - less than one second in our time frame. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47522723 Portugal 09/28/2013 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | doubtful that mars will alter ison's course. mars does not possess a singular magnetic shield as does the earth but rather multiple localized magnetic muons. mars magnetic strength is a great deal weaker than that of the earth's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47175432 The deflection of orbit would be gravitational, not magnetic. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47522723 Portugal 09/28/2013 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | doubtful that mars will alter ison's course. mars does not possess a singular magnetic shield as does the earth but rather multiple localized magnetic muons. the strength of mars magnetic strength is a great deal to that of the earth's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47175432 It's Gravity that's involved - not Magnetism. . The Universe works on electricity, not gravity. The Universe works on both, at different levels. If you are talking about deflection of orbit, gravity is causing it, not magnetism. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47060446 United Kingdom 09/28/2013 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know much about about astro physics or where the earth will be in relation to the debris field, but can anyone confirm or deny ? |
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Billy_Sastard User ID: 47142095 United States 09/28/2013 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know about the mars encounter causing ISON to hit earth, but it is rather interesting how the orbit takes it within 7m km... This type of encounter is the same thing we do with space probes to adjust their orbits. Quoting: Billy_Sastard Where did you get these numbers? University of YouTube? E.g. Voyager 1 passed Jupiter at a distance of 349,000 kilometers and Saturn at 124,000 kilometers to gain speed and change the orbit. A little difference to your 7 million kilometers, isn't it? . And no tonly is the distance much farther, but the mass of the rplanet involved is miniscule compared to either Jupiter or Saturn. It's approacjhing a much smaller body (Mars) at a much greater distance... This encounter isn't going to do a damn thing to Ison's trajectory. Hey now, I was just making a simple observation... You cannot say, however, that the mars encounter 'wont do a damn thing' to ISONs orbit! In the scale of our solar system, 7m km is pretty damn close! This is definitely close enough for the gravity well of mars to have some effect on the orbital trajectory of a 3km chunk of ice. One has to remember that our space probes have not had very much mass, a mere fraction of the mass of a 3km chunk of ice for sure. If you know anything about gravity you would know that as the mass of an object increases, so does do the gravitation effects on that object, so a more massive object will be effected at greater distances. What I am NOT saying is that the encounter is going to drastically effect the orbit, or that it will 'fling' the comet into the earth, my argument is simply that the mars encounter will have some effect on the trajectory... Heck, if anything, the encounter could cause the comet to have a closer encounter with the sun and it will never come back from the far side. It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :( :abomb::abomb::abomb: BRING ON THE DOOM!!! |
phoomp User ID: 34814167 Canada 09/28/2013 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON will encounter Mars near directly over the north pole on Oct 1st. NASA's JPL, and indeed all orbital diagrams relied upon ]do not factor planetary encounter circumstances! And since ISON will be so close to Mars, there is sure to be orbital change, due to the gravitational effects of both bodies! The possible end result is that Mars will (gravitationally) fling ISON towards Earth! Quoting: Kalki 12772450 So, rather speculate blindly, compute the orbits and gravitational effects yourself and prove your claim. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47060380 Canada 09/28/2013 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | where did you get your astronomy phd from? the university of glp? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37154178 Actually he's right. When they calculated its orbit they laft out Planetary Encounters out of the calculations. Thats been up on their own Websites. They cannot calculate somthing thats an unknown. So there you have it and we will all have to wait until MONDAY and TUESDAY for the news! |