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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46958867  United States09/27/2013 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nationaljournal.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26549654 As the clock ticks down toward a possible government shutdown, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, isn't holding back. On the Senate floor before 10 a.m. Friday, the senator gave a speech describing how American politics have reached the level at which "a small group of willful men and women who have a certain ideology"—read: the tea party and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas—have been able to take over the congressional budget debate in the last week. "Since they can't get their way," Harkin said, "they're going to create this confusion and discourse and hope that the public will be so mixed up in who is to blame for this, that they'll blame both sides." This isn't just congressional business as usual, Harkin said. It's much, much more dire: It's dangerous. It's very dangerous. I believe, Mr. President, we are at one of the most dangerous points in our history right now. Every bit as dangerous as the break-up of the Union before the Civil War. -+-+-+ Looks like it really is about to go down. I never thought I would see this in my lifetime. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH civil war?? is this senator objecting to the pay cut he will take when the pig in DC shuts down....frankly i don't feel sorry for him.....bring on the shutdown...we americans will be just fine; the military will still be compensated....the extortion in D.C. needs to END mr. senator Unfortunately, it will not be shut down. It would be beneficial for the working class if it would shut down and idiots like him would never let that happen. |
ShillytheKid  User ID: 47437359 United States09/27/2013 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont think it would happen. Too many people are apathetic to even know whats going on. Quoting: Brandywine84 I think this is right on the money. It doesn't matter if you are on the left or the right; too many apathetic people on both sides. Of course apathetic beer drinking zombies are better than fanatical people, so it's all good.  ShillytheKid |
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| Shelgeyr User ID: 8379235 United States09/27/2013 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nationaljournal.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26549654 As the clock ticks down toward a possible government shutdown, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, isn't holding back. On the Senate floor before 10 a.m. Friday, the senator gave a speech describing how American politics have reached the level at which "a small group of willful men and women who have a certain ideology"—read: the tea party and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas—have been able to take over the congressional budget debate in the last week. "Since they can't get their way," Harkin said, "they're going to create this confusion and discourse and hope that the public will be so mixed up in who is to blame for this, that they'll blame both sides." This isn't just congressional business as usual, Harkin said. It's much, much more dire: It's dangerous. It's very dangerous. I believe, Mr. President, we are at one of the most dangerous points in our history right now. Every bit as dangerous as the break-up of the Union before the Civil War. -+-+-+ Looks like it really is about to go down. I never thought I would see this in my lifetime. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH civil war?? is this senator objecting to the pay cut he will take when the pig in DC shuts down....frankly i don't feel sorry for him.....bring on the shutdown...we americans will be just fine; the military will still be compensated....the extortion in D.C. needs to END mr. senator Unfortunately, it will not be shut down. It would be beneficial for the working class if it would shut down and idiots like him would never let that happen. Don't you mean the "non-working" class? Updating this post: Nevermind, I think I misunderstood you above. Carry on. Last Edited by Shelgeyr on 09/27/2013 11:54 AM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 47509923 United States09/27/2013 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there will not be a Civil War Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47511588 it will be a Revolution there is a difference Absolutely. The revolution will be against those fuckers in power that no longer believe that they serve, but that they our leaders. There NEEDS to be a revolution. Many lawyer/politicians should face a firing squad. Fuck 'em all. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35410860 United States09/27/2013 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont think it would happen. Too many people are apathetic to even know whats going on. Quoting: Brandywine84 I wouldn't be so sure. After all, it only takes one act. One reason within an aggregate of simple thoughts - and ideals - of pebbles. And just what could that "one" act be? Obamacare which the majority of Americans are against? Attacking Syria which 90% of Americans are against? The IRS targeting certain people? Our representatives not listening to the people? Gee, what? I'm thinking shutting down the internet or turning off cell phones...then all hell would break loose. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21704313 United States09/27/2013 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All "We The People" do is bitch about shit on a website or make comments on news sites...no one actually DOES anything to make a difference. Quoting: Melrox War?...  AMEN! 95% of the population could give a shit as long as Netflix, Walmart, Cable TV, McDonalds, and sports are still operational. In fact. I bet that over 50% don't want ANY change whatsoever. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 968649 United States09/27/2013 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why can the liberals /communists be completely inflexible and radical, but if the other side does not budge, they are the bad guys? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 968649 this country is finished Dude, it's all a game to get you to take sides... all the politicians are bought and paid for. The political stage is exactly that - a stage upon which a well choreographed dance occurs to give us the illusion of choice, thus effectively denying us the reality of liberty. STOP BUYING IN... I do not buy this. This is no excuse to not try. I think the tea party is a step in the right direction (pun¡) seriously, how the F do we change things for the better, and I'm not talking about omabot zombie welfare change. Less government, less regulation, less spending, more freedom. |
| Resister User ID: 36421936 United States09/27/2013 12:06 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw someone post that it would be a revolution, not a civil war......but our country is soo divided, with each side literaly hating the other, we could never come together enough for a revolution. Quoting: *Evan Revolutions are usually the result of at least some degree of civil war. Like you said though, with each side hating the other so much right now open conflict could devolve very very quickly into a replay of the mid 1800's. I would like to think that the first steps would remain peaceful as they did back then when the Southern states seceeded peacefully. I just hope the two sides don't have dumbassed blood thirsty idiots in charge when it happens. oh wait...  "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
| Nexus-9 User ID: 41181573 United States09/27/2013 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Read the article.. He's a moron and trying to rally support for "his" team. It's all a game. I think its political theater trying to push for Marshall Law. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4938037 United States09/27/2013 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nationaljournal.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26549654 As the clock ticks down toward a possible government shutdown, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, isn't holding back. On the Senate floor before 10 a.m. Friday, the senator gave a speech describing how American politics have reached the level at which "a small group of willful men and women who have a certain ideology"—read: the tea party and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas—have been able to take over the congressional budget debate in the last week. "Since they can't get their way," Harkin said, "they're going to create this confusion and discourse and hope that the public will be so mixed up in who is to blame for this, that they'll blame both sides." This isn't just congressional business as usual, Harkin said. It's much, much more dire: It's dangerous. It's very dangerous. I believe, Mr. President, we are at one of the most dangerous points in our history right now. Every bit as dangerous as the break-up of the Union before the Civil War. -+-+-+ Looks like it really is about to go down. I never thought I would see this in my lifetime. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16178844 United States09/27/2013 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont think it would happen. Too many people are apathetic to even know whats going on. Quoting: Brandywine84 I wouldn't be so sure. After all, it only takes one act. One reason within an aggregate of simple thoughts - and ideals - of pebbles. And just what could that "one" act be? Obamacare which the majority of Americans are against? Attacking Syria which 90% of Americans are against? The IRS targeting certain people? Our representatives not listening to the people? Gee, what? I'm thinking shutting down the internet or turning off cell phones...then all hell would break loose. No one really knows until after the fact. It is, and always will remain, what is, historical significance. In it self, it is, and always has been, the biological freewill of mankind. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16178844 United States09/27/2013 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wouldn't be so sure. After all, it only takes one act. One reason within an aggregate of simple thoughts - and ideals - of pebbles. And just what could that "one" act be? Obamacare which the majority of Americans are against? Attacking Syria which 90% of Americans are against? The IRS targeting certain people? Our representatives not listening to the people? Gee, what? I'm thinking shutting down the internet or turning off cell phones...then all hell would break loose. No one really knows until after the fact. It is, and always will remain, what is, historical significance. In it self, it is, and always has been, the biological freewill of mankind. You must remember it is, "one reason" within an aggregate. One cannot presently sift through thousands or millions of possibilities and be sure he holds the "one" reason. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 47078040 United States09/27/2013 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nationaljournal.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26549654 As the clock ticks down toward a possible government shutdown, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, isn't holding back. On the Senate floor before 10 a.m. Friday, the senator gave a speech describing how American politics have reached the level at which "a small group of willful men and women who have a certain ideology"—read: the tea party and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas—have been able to take over the congressional budget debate in the last week. "Since they can't get their way," Harkin said, "they're going to create this confusion and discourse and hope that the public will be so mixed up in who is to blame for this, that they'll blame both sides." This isn't just congressional business as usual, Harkin said. It's much, much more dire: It's dangerous. It's very dangerous. I believe, Mr. President, we are at one of the most dangerous points in our history right now. Every bit as dangerous as the break-up of the Union before the Civil War. -+-+-+ Looks like it really is about to go down. I never thought I would see this in my lifetime. Who has brought this situation about? Albert Pike knew exactly who was to bring this about because he was one of them! Is this why they call their servants "agentur", or "agents", or "agents of change"? This cycle of "revolution" or "change" has existed ever since the establishment of the first human "civilization"! The "spirit" behind this, FOMENTING this, CAUSING this, is NOT the HOLY SPIRIT! |
| SaveUSa User ID: 37256203 United States09/27/2013 12:18 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Americans Sharply Divided Over Repealing Obamacare Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33382345 49 percent of Americans said Congress should keep the program because of the expanded insurance coverage it provides, while 44 percent said it should be repealed because it is too costly. A majority of men, 51 percent, are in favor of repeal. But 55 percent of women say the law should remain in place. A narrow majority of whites, 51 percent, favor repeal while 62 percent of nonwhites would rather the law stay in place. [link to www.nationaljournal.com] Ah yes, another poll. Those are always so accurate. Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth. |
| Shelgeyr User ID: 8379235 United States09/27/2013 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article.. He's a moron and trying to rally support for "his" team. It's all a game. I think its political theater trying to push for Marshall Law. Hate to be a jerk about spelling - I know I make enough errors of my own - but in this case it is worth pointing out: I'm fairly certain you meant "Martial Law", and not anything having to do with the "Marshall Plan" (officially the European Recovery Program, ERP). Right? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 47298356 Canada09/27/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Democrats ought to be exterminated or arrested then deported. Their choice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47298356 Democrats are the ones who brought the FED and the income tax in 1913. They are the ones who expanded the size of government by a thousand fold under FDR. Fuck democrats. They are pro-state commies. Always have been. |
| Page Ala Cearl User ID: 4941936 United States09/27/2013 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there will not be a Civil War Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47511588 it will be a Revolution there is a difference I like your thinking but.. That would depend if people can drop their differences and unite as humans for a better humanity or they let fear consume them and separate to provide for the self at any means necessary. In a trail of fire I know we will be free again, in the end we will be one, in a trail of fire I'll burn before you bury me. |
