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he's an internet/mobile marketing specialist and sent out a couple of emails full of his ideas and looking for investors. Shortly after that, he started hearing voices..specifically from a local venture capitalist he had sent the info to as well as another person, a millionaire computer programmer that is an old friend of mine and has been in the news a lot lately (you figure it out, I'm not naming him).

He claims they are psychically harassing him. Recently he said they asked him "what did you expect us to do? We have the ability to hack into your brain and steal your ideas....and so why wouldn't we?".

I talked him into getting on psychiatric meds against my better judgement, but that hasn't stopped the voices.

I don't know if he is sick or if this shit is really happening but he started talking about this a month before the Navy Yard shootings and the things he is talking about mirror the same complaints about mind control that Aaron Alexis complained about.

Also, I no longer have any firearms and I don't believe he has access to any.
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Hm. One has to wonder if power, money, and access to tech would cause someone to use the tech.

The advice I always give for voices - whether real or imagined - is to go into one's own mind. Close your eyes. Find where the voices are located in your head and start building a room around those voices. Make sure to put in the fancy egg crating that seals in sound. Then close the door and lock it and walk away. You may have to do this several times to get it right. But it may help diminish and even silence the voices - after all, it's your brain, the mind is an amazing thing and if it can tune into something it can tune out just as easily.
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Hm. One has to wonder if power, money, and access to tech would cause someone to use the tech.

The advice I always give for voices - whether real or imagined - is to go into one's own mind. Close your eyes. Find where the voices are located in your head and start building a room around those voices. Make sure to put in the fancy egg crating that seals in sound. Then close the door and lock it and walk away. You may have to do this several times to get it right. But it may help diminish and even silence the voices - after all, it's your brain, the mind is an amazing thing and if it can tune into something it can tune out just as easily.
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Thread: How psychotronic warfare works (video)

I thought it was BS, but a lot of info about it.

I do believe you can control it tho.

But you have to be awake to do that.

So not many could.
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Hm. One has to wonder if power, money, and access to tech would cause someone to use the tech.

The advice I always give for voices - whether real or imagined - is to go into one's own mind. Close your eyes. Find where the voices are located in your head and start building a room around those voices. Make sure to put in the fancy egg crating that seals in sound. Then close the door and lock it and walk away. You may have to do this several times to get it right. But it may help diminish and even silence the voices - after all, it's your brain, the mind is an amazing thing and if it can tune into something it can tune out just as easily.
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How do you do that???
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Hm. One has to wonder if power, money, and access to tech would cause someone to use the tech.

The advice I always give for voices - whether real or imagined - is to go into one's own mind. Close your eyes. Find where the voices are located in your head and start building a room around those voices. Make sure to put in the fancy egg crating that seals in sound. Then close the door and lock it and walk away. You may have to do this several times to get it right. But it may help diminish and even silence the voices - after all, it's your brain, the mind is an amazing thing and if it can tune into something it can tune out just as easily.
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How do you do that???
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Which part? Lol. I gave the instruction outline.
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Hide his guns! Now!
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Hm. One has to wonder if power, money, and access to tech would cause someone to use the tech.

The advice I always give for voices - whether real or imagined - is to go into one's own mind. Close your eyes. Find where the voices are located in your head and start building a room around those voices. Make sure to put in the fancy egg crating that seals in sound. Then close the door and lock it and walk away. You may have to do this several times to get it right. But it may help diminish and even silence the voices - after all, it's your brain, the mind is an amazing thing and if it can tune into something it can tune out just as easily.
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How do you do that???
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Which part? Lol. I gave the instruction outline.
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Sounds very interesting but I dont understand it. Where should I start to grasp the concept...lol...I have never heard about this until now so I'm brand spankin new to this...THANKS!!!
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Certainly sounds like Schizophrenia. In addition to whatever meds he has also try high dose 4-8grams/day fish oil. Some studies show it can help. Go through pubmed and see what other supplements show promise as well.

Investigate ACT therapy, one of the only psychotherapy approaches showing benefits for schizophrenia.

Whatever you do, don't fall for the nonsense. No one no matter how rich is going to hack into your brain and steal your ideas. Much easier to hack your laptop and steal them.


Sanity check 1)

To give an idea, state of art in the field requires an fMRI machine, one huge goddamn liquid helium cooled magnet.
Requires a huge amount of preparation, with a patients head stuck inside the magnet they can get some hint what someone is currently visualizing. Still couldn't "hack in and steal ideas".


Sanity check 2)

The US government tortured prisoners in GITMO with the hope of getting information. The entirety of government three letter agencies couldn't come up with a way to hack in and get the data they needed!
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Thread: If you need to focus..
Put a lion in a cage for years without food and watch what happens.
Its appetite will of cause grow and grow, and then you point your finger at its hunger?
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Believe it or not, but Christ is a wall to the programming. Pray instantly and peace will come in the mind, promise. God is stronger than any person or gooberment.
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See if he would like to attend a support group

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How old is he? What's his skin color?
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Hm. One has to wonder if power, money, and access to tech would cause someone to use the tech.

The advice I always give for voices - whether real or imagined - is to go into one's own mind. Close your eyes. Find where the voices are located in your head and start building a room around those voices. Make sure to put in the fancy egg crating that seals in sound. Then close the door and lock it and walk away. You may have to do this several times to get it right. But it may help diminish and even silence the voices - after all, it's your brain, the mind is an amazing thing and if it can tune into something it can tune out just as easily.
 Quoting: Central Periphery


How do you do that???
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Which part? Lol. I gave the instruction outline.
 Quoting: Central Periphery


Sounds very interesting but I dont understand it. Where should I start to grasp the concept...lol...I have never heard about this until now so I'm brand spankin new to this...THANKS!!!
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I think it falls under guided imagery for the most part (used in psychology/hypnosis/etc). If you take the script I wrote above and apply it in the same manner it should help (or even write your own script). Maybe try some guided imagery first to get the idea.

wiki on guided imagery:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Youtube has lots of examples. The below one is for relaxation.

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How do you do that???
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Which part? Lol. I gave the instruction outline.
 Quoting: Central Periphery


Sounds very interesting but I dont understand it. Where should I start to grasp the concept...lol...I have never heard about this until now so I'm brand spankin new to this...THANKS!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46514681


I think it falls under guided imagery for the most part (used in psychology/hypnosis/etc). If you take the script I wrote above and apply it in the same manner it should help (or even write your own script). Maybe try some guided imagery first to get the idea.

wiki on guided imagery:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Youtube has lots of examples. The below one is for relaxation.


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Thanks!!!hfhf
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he's an internet/mobile marketing specialist and sent out a couple of emails full of his ideas and looking for investors. Shortly after that, he started hearing voices..specifically from a local venture capitalist he had sent the info to as well as another person, a millionaire computer programmer that is an old friend of mine and has been in the news a lot lately (you figure it out, I'm not naming him).

He claims they are psychically harassing him. Recently he said they asked him "what did you expect us to do? We have the ability to hack into your brain and steal your ideas....and so why wouldn't we?".

I talked him into getting on psychiatric meds against my better judgement, but that hasn't stopped the voices.

I don't know if he is sick or if this shit is really happening but he started talking about this a month before the Navy Yard shootings and the things he is talking about mirror the same complaints about mind control that Aaron Alexis complained about.

Also, I no longer have any firearms and I don't believe he has access to any.
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Does he have any affiliation to military, especially aerospace industies, ie:Lockheed, Northrop G., NASA, JPL....ETC..
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Certainly sounds like Schizophrenia. In addition to whatever meds he has also try high dose 4-8grams/day fish oil. Some studies show it can help. Go through pubmed and see what other supplements show promise as well.

Investigate ACT therapy, one of the only psychotherapy approaches showing benefits for schizophrenia.

Whatever you do, don't fall for the nonsense. No one no matter how rich is going to hack into your brain and steal your ideas. Much easier to hack your laptop and steal them.


Sanity check 1)

To give an idea, state of art in the field requires an fMRI machine, one huge goddamn liquid helium cooled magnet.
Requires a huge amount of preparation, with a patients head stuck inside the magnet they can get some hint what someone is currently visualizing. Still couldn't "hack in and steal ideas".


Sanity check 2)

The US government tortured prisoners in GITMO with the hope of getting information. The entirety of government three letter agencies couldn't come up with a way to hack in and get the data they needed!
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You are OBVIOUSLY not a doctor - please stop with the diagnosis, you are doing more harm than good.

Sanity check 2 - GREAT POINT!
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ever heard about tin foil hat? well, there some truth in it.

-first of all i think that he is simply having mental problems but there is a way to test it and make him aware of his illness.. and get him some medical treatment etc.

-if he thinks that they (?) are sending some radiation/waves/energy/pulses/whatever into his brain or body (words, sentences, bed/good feelings etc.) the way to test if that claim is true is to make a faraday cage and get him into it for a while to test if the radiation (or whatever voices in his head) stop. build a coffin of some metal (copper aluminium, etc.) and make sure that there is no holes in it (short waves can go through quite small holes while longer waves can't). you can make a rough (very rough) test by placing a cell phone into the coffin and trying to make a call to the phone. phone should not ring if the cage is built even a little bit the way it should be. same thing with radio (preferably short wave radio). now, you might start by getting him into large refridgerator (isn't it a box of metal?) for a little while or wearing a box (wooden or whatever) with aluminium foil and getting him into it. you may then add several layers of aluminium foil, as many as needed, and if it still does not help you can build a coffin using some thick metal etc. if none of this helps, and he still hears voices, the voices must be sign of some mental illness. at least it cannot be any electromagnetical wave sent from any antenna etc.
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Get him a Ham radio.
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he needs to build a Quad Delta Loop and transmit his signal across the bands.

QSL?
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Personal EMF shielding devices will help here.

They are like a tin-foil hats/underware on steroids!

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Joyce [Power Hour] had a great interview with people from Freedom from covert harassment and surveillance ! An organization that = Seeking Freedom and Justice worldwide
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Believe it or not, but Christ is a wall to the programming. Pray instantly and peace will come in the mind, promise. God is stronger than any person or gooberment.
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Hm. One has to wonder if power, money, and access to tech would cause someone to use the tech.

The advice I always give for voices - whether real or imagined - is to go into one's own mind. Close your eyes. Find where the voices are located in your head and start building a room around those voices. Make sure to put in the fancy egg crating that seals in sound. Then close the door and lock it and walk away. You may have to do this several times to get it right. But it may help diminish and even silence the voices - after all, it's your brain, the mind is an amazing thing and if it can tune into something it can tune out just as easily.
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How do you do that???
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You visualize it it your mind, picture yourself doing it. It 's supposed to setup a mental barrier against the outside voices.
However i'm thinking if it is an electronic thing being used against your son and not merely a telepathy or ESP, something more physical as a barrier might be needed, such as electronic jamming or wearing a metal helmet or something like that.
He really needs to actively research this and fight back against it.
I've also heard that some medications actually work to block the voices by changing the brainwaves so that it no longer is picking up the signals being sent by the harassers.
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It is technological. Just because he hears those voices doesn't mean it is them. They are just convenient to harass him with. They can sound like anyone they want.
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Try giving him iodine.
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Personal EMF shielding devices will help here.

They are like a tin-foil hats/underware on steroids!
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As silly as the expression has become, the tin-foil head covering has been reported to work in some instances.

It's a cheap and easy method, try it it may actually work?
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Re: 3 Months Ago My Son Started Having the Exact Same Symptoms of The Navy Yard Shooter...
he's an internet/mobile marketing specialist and sent out a couple of emails full of his ideas and looking for investors. Shortly after that, he started hearing voices..specifically from a local venture capitalist he had sent the info to as well as another person, a millionaire computer programmer that is an old friend of mine and has been in the news a lot lately (you figure it out, I'm not naming him).

He claims they are psychically harassing him. Recently he said they asked him "what did you expect us to do? We have the ability to hack into your brain and steal your ideas....and so why wouldn't we?".

I talked him into getting on psychiatric meds against my better judgement, but that hasn't stopped the voices.

I don't know if he is sick or if this shit is really happening but he started talking about this a month before the Navy Yard shootings and the things he is talking about mirror the same complaints about mind control that Aaron Alexis complained about.

Also, I no longer have any firearms and I don't believe he has access to any.
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Does he have any affiliation to military, especially aerospace industies, ie:Lockheed, Northrop G., NASA, JPL....ETC..
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he's an internet/mobile marketing specialist and sent out a couple of emails full of his ideas and looking for investors. Shortly after that, he started hearing voices..specifically from a local venture capitalist he had sent the info to as well as another person, a millionaire computer programmer that is an old friend of mine and has been in the news a lot lately (you figure it out, I'm not naming him).

He claims they are psychically harassing him. Recently he said they asked him "what did you expect us to do? We have the ability to hack into your brain and steal your ideas....and so why wouldn't we?".

I talked him into getting on psychiatric meds against my better judgement, but that hasn't stopped the voices.

I don't know if he is sick or if this shit is really happening but he started talking about this a month before the Navy Yard shootings and the things he is talking about mirror the same complaints about mind control that Aaron Alexis complained about.

Also, I no longer have any firearms and I don't believe he has access to any.
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Once they start hearing voices, forget about it. Only the aliens can pull that off, and that just confirms their in his head. Unless they leave him alone, you're pretty much out of luck.
His best bet is to just ignore it, even though it'll just probably then follow up with more physical stuff that'll drive him even crazier though (sleep depravation, sleep walking, you name it), unfortunately.
Sorry to be the bringer of bad news.
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he's an internet/mobile marketing specialist and sent out a couple of emails full of his ideas and looking for investors. Shortly after that, he started hearing voices..specifically from a local venture capitalist he had sent the info to as well as another person, a millionaire computer programmer that is an old friend of mine and has been in the news a lot lately (you figure it out, I'm not naming him).

He claims they are psychically harassing him. Recently he said they asked him "what did you expect us to do? We have the ability to hack into your brain and steal your ideas....and so why wouldn't we?".

I talked him into getting on psychiatric meds against my better judgement, but that hasn't stopped the voices.

I don't know if he is sick or if this shit is really happening but he started talking about this a month before the Navy Yard shootings and the things he is talking about mirror the same complaints about mind control that Aaron Alexis complained about.

Also, I no longer have any firearms and I don't believe he has access to any.
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meds won't help him. They can transmit a voice directly into his skull and there are many cases of it happening on the net.
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Hide his guns! Now!
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