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Doomish User ID: 46951738 United States 09/30/2013 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You might try to look for a gal in a more intellectual setting. Maybe a museum grand opening, or a career conference? Quoting: Doomish Where you meet them reflects a lot their intelligence. Meet them at a bar? Expect a floozy. Meet them in the mall? Expect a high maintenance chick. Met my wife in a kitchen. She thought I had broken in the house and came after me with a waffle press. LOL. Wow. That's a story to tell the kids. Trying to bring GLP together. I'm still collecting flags from posters all over the world. Thread: Official "Flags from around the world" thread. Hoping to get posts from all countries that frequent GLP. :gratefulsig: |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45162112 United States 09/30/2013 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a fine line between right and wrong in dating. Its trial by fire, women don't give you an individual owners manual when you begin to court them. You learn as you go. Mention women in this forum and shills come out of the woodwork acting as though they are experts in the art of seducing women. Maybe you should get to know them as people before you bother to "court" them? You should at least know a woman well enough to know her frigging intellect level and television watching habits before you start trying to hump your way up her leg. Like I said...doing it wrong. Everyone I have been in long term relationships with I had known for years before hand. I obviously haven't dated every girl I have been with. You are attempting to turn this into some sex based thread and its far from that. Yes I went through a phase during an after high school where I slept with a lot of girls, I'm not proud of it and as I've grown older I've saw the hollowness of emotionless sex which is why I changed my ways. This is more of a thread on how we are being conditioned to focus on what's on TV and mold our lives around it, not my irrelevant past sexual experiences, of which I merely mentioned to give reference to how I've witnessed this condition progress. So, please, go be a dick elsewhere. |
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John Becker User ID: 47376723 United States 09/30/2013 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm 23. Quite attractive and have had more women than years I have lived. I've also been in several medium length relationships. I've been with my current girl for 19 months, the one before that for 15 months and another longer one before that, with short termers in between. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45162112 Your math and/or your facts are flawed as hell. But you're right, especially in your age range, I expect the girls are mostly dumbshits, but if you look around REAL close, you're the exception, not the rule, to the MALE side of it all as well. How many guys do you know |
ThereRMeds4That User ID: 44360173 United States 09/30/2013 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's hard dude. Smart women who can ground themselves in logic and reason while still having a sense of humor are incredibly sexy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46086771 It just seems like many women confuse an intellectual discussion or debate with arguing. Finding one who understands the point is for both of you to be wiser at the end of the conversation so you both win is very hard to find for some reason. This is true. I debate quite often here on GLP, but by nature I do not like conflict. My hubby and I argue EXTREMELY rarely. Because what so often happens in co-ed public schools is that young men who have puberty driven uncontrollable testosterone coarsing through their bodies who, not having learned the proper social conventions on intellectual debates, become overly aggressive during such discussions. Young women, who typically, are not as naturally aggressive become isolated from such give and take conversations during the self defining teen/young adult years. Look for young women who valued single sex education- were leaders in their organizations and are comfortable "hanging with the guys" and you are more likely to find a women who will engage in a spirited debate in the same manner as a man. The key fact is that men and women disagree differently, converse differently. Some Shepherds remain hidden from their sheep. |
rekameohsnad User ID: 3238354 United States 09/30/2013 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. they are always right 2. when they are wrong, refer to rule one once one(male) accepts that premise, peace and harmony will fill your days gets cold when one doubts the rules let me tell you.... Last Edited by rekameohsnad on 09/30/2013 11:12 AM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45162112 United States 09/30/2013 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop looking for women you "want to date" and instead look for women you enjoy conversing with. See where that gets you. :) Quoting: ThereRMeds4That That's exactly what I've been doing for years. It landed me my current girlfriend who is quite bright but is still interested in the things I've aforementioned but she can actually hold a conversation and sometimes surprises me with insight. She's still a very pretty girl and I've known her for years. I met her my freshman year in an advanced placement course. I should have mentioned in my original post that my current partner wasn't quite typical but I'm on a mobile and didn't recognize my mistake. She's an amazing young lady and has really impressed me. She has stood by me through my injury and we regularly engage in intelligent conversation. She enjoys me indulging her in the things that I spend my time educating myself in. After reading my original I post I realize that I made her out to be the same as the rest, for that I apologize. I should have clarified her difference. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47659969 United Kingdom 09/30/2013 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a fine line between right and wrong in dating. Its trial by fire, women don't give you an individual owners manual when you begin to court them. You learn as you go. Mention women in this forum and shills come out of the woodwork acting as though they are experts in the art of seducing women. Maybe you should get to know them as people before you bother to "court" them? You should at least know a woman well enough to know her frigging intellect level and television watching habits before you start trying to hump your way up her leg. Like I said...doing it wrong. Everyone I have been in long term relationships with I had known for years before hand. I obviously haven't dated every girl I have been with. You are attempting to turn this into some sex based thread and its far from that. Yes I went through a phase during an after high school where I slept with a lot of girls, I'm not proud of it and as I've grown older I've saw the hollowness of emotionless sex which is why I changed my ways. This is more of a thread on how we are being conditioned to focus on what's on TV and mold our lives around it, not my irrelevant past sexual experiences, of which I merely mentioned to give reference to how I've witnessed this condition progress. So, please, go be a dick elsewhere. Since you are so perfect and you only attempt to hump the legs of greatly intellectual women that you have long standing and wonderful relationships with, why not go crying back to one of the perfect ones that you have broken it off with since they're all clearly divine having previously met your well thought out and researched criteria for courting? |
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Corner User ID: 47583895 Belgium 09/30/2013 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop looking for women you "want to date" and instead look for women you enjoy conversing with. See where that gets you. :) Quoting: ThereRMeds4That See where that gets you?? What's with women never letting one know what comes from a certain situation. I hate gray areas. Seems to be a typical womenthing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46086771 China 09/30/2013 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's hard dude. Smart women who can ground themselves in logic and reason while still having a sense of humor are incredibly sexy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46086771 It just seems like many women confuse an intellectual discussion or debate with arguing. Finding one who understands the point is for both of you to be wiser at the end of the conversation so you both win is very hard to find for some reason. This is true. I debate quite often here on GLP, but by nature I do not like conflict. My hubby and I argue EXTREMELY rarely. Because what so often happens in co-ed public schools is that young men who have puberty driven uncontrollable testosterone coarsing through their bodies who, not having learned the proper social conventions on intellectual debates, become overly aggressive during such discussions. Young women, who typically, are not as naturally aggressive become isolated from such give and take conversations during the self defining teen/young adult years. Look for young women who valued single sex education- were leaders in their organizations and are comfortable "hanging with the guys" and you are more likely to find a women who will engage in a spirited debate in the same manner as a man. The key fact is that men and women disagree differently, converse differently. You're right. Thats the trick though isn't it? Finding a women who realizes a man asking or responding in a pointed or direct manner isn;t always aggression but just a side effect of passion and spirited ideas. I think it's more than just a man not being able to read a women properly is what i;m saying. The women has to be open to finding common ground with a brain that works differently than hers. It's very stimulating and satisfying when you find one you can connect with. Looking for women in leadership roles is good advice. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45162112 United States 09/30/2013 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread has been greatly misinterpreted. I did not mean finding a partner who you can sit down and argue opinions with. I meant one who is also interested in current affairs or past events who you can sit down and discuss the facts with or the descrepancies in things that may be considered a conspiracy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46086771 China 09/30/2013 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's hard dude. Smart women who can ground themselves in logic and reason while still having a sense of humor are incredibly sexy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46086771 I guess being sexy is a thing they don't want to become. Sexy is seen by what is sexy. A sexy women doesn't try to be sexy. she just is. |
Corner User ID: 47583895 Belgium 09/30/2013 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's hard dude. Smart women who can ground themselves in logic and reason while still having a sense of humor are incredibly sexy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46086771 I guess being sexy is a thing they don't want to become. Sexy is seen by what is sexy. A sexy women doesn't try to be sexy. she just is. yep, being yourself is sexy. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45162112 United States 09/30/2013 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45162112 There is a fine line between right and wrong in dating. Its trial by fire, women don't give you an individual owners manual when you begin to court them. You learn as you go. Mention women in this forum and shills come out of the woodwork acting as though they are experts in the art of seducing women. Maybe you should get to know them as people before you bother to "court" them? You should at least know a woman well enough to know her frigging intellect level and television watching habits before you start trying to hump your way up her leg. Like I said...doing it wrong. Everyone I have been in long term relationships with I had known for years before hand. I obviously haven't dated every girl I have been with. You are attempting to turn this into some sex based thread and its far from that. Yes I went through a phase during an after high school where I slept with a lot of girls, I'm not proud of it and as I've grown older I've saw the hollowness of emotionless sex which is why I changed my ways. This is more of a thread on how we are being conditioned to focus on what's on TV and mold our lives around it, not my irrelevant past sexual experiences, of which I merely mentioned to give reference to how I've witnessed this condition progress. So, please, go be a dick elsewhere. Since you are so perfect and you only attempt to hump the legs of greatly intellectual women that you have long standing and wonderful relationships with, why not go crying back to one of the perfect ones that you have broken it off with since they're all clearly divine having previously met your well thought out and researched criteria for courting? How is this considered crying about anything? All I've attempted to communicate is that all most women around my age want to conversate about is what's going on with their favorite celebrities or TV shows? I've never claimed to be anymore intelligent than any of them or have I claimed to be some beacon of factual knowledge. I've already noted the transformation I've taken from being an adolescent to being an adult as age brought maturity and altered my opinion and the way I look at women, which is something all men go through. But that has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. If you're some old fuck I can see why you can't relate to the things I've said. But any guy around my age on this forum likely can understand where I'm coming from. |
ThereRMeds4That User ID: 44360173 United States 09/30/2013 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread has been greatly misinterpreted. I did not mean finding a partner who you can sit down and argue opinions with. I meant one who is also interested in current affairs or past events who you can sit down and discuss the facts with or the descrepancies in things that may be considered a conspiracy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45162112 Getting into a detailed conversation with someone where you can both discuss facts/discrepancies/historical views with requires two people who are able to concisely/clearly communicate their knowledge/ideas. Seeing as how so many responders to your original post have "misinterpreted" you, perhaps the women you are attempting to discuss current events with are also misinterpreting you? :) Some Shepherds remain hidden from their sheep. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47659969 United Kingdom 09/30/2013 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Central Periphery Maybe you should get to know them as people before you bother to "court" them? You should at least know a woman well enough to know her frigging intellect level and television watching habits before you start trying to hump your way up her leg. Like I said...doing it wrong. Everyone I have been in long term relationships with I had known for years before hand. I obviously haven't dated every girl I have been with. You are attempting to turn this into some sex based thread and its far from that. Yes I went through a phase during an after high school where I slept with a lot of girls, I'm not proud of it and as I've grown older I've saw the hollowness of emotionless sex which is why I changed my ways. This is more of a thread on how we are being conditioned to focus on what's on TV and mold our lives around it, not my irrelevant past sexual experiences, of which I merely mentioned to give reference to how I've witnessed this condition progress. So, please, go be a dick elsewhere. Since you are so perfect and you only attempt to hump the legs of greatly intellectual women that you have long standing and wonderful relationships with, why not go crying back to one of the perfect ones that you have broken it off with since they're all clearly divine having previously met your well thought out and researched criteria for courting? How is this considered crying about anything? All I've attempted to communicate is that all most women around my age want to conversate about is what's going on with their favorite celebrities or TV shows? I've never claimed to be anymore intelligent than any of them or have I claimed to be some beacon of factual knowledge. I've already noted the transformation I've taken from being an adolescent to being an adult as age brought maturity and altered my opinion and the way I look at women, which is something all men go through. But that has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. If you're some old fuck I can see why you can't relate to the things I've said. But any guy around my age on this forum likely can understand where I'm coming from. I didn't say you were crying dear. Listen carefully. I said you should go crying back to the perfect woman you claim you have already been with due to your carefully spending years getting to know women before getting into a courting relationship with them. You should beg them to take you back. Because you're not going to find a new one. I don't know how you found one to begin with to be honest, you don't seem the most intelligent catch - you're very over sensitive and self focused.. But there's really no hope for you. You haven't even realised that you're arguing with a female, meaning you don't know how we work at all, not one little bit. |
Ms. Superduper User ID: 46155084 United States 09/30/2013 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a fine line between right and wrong in dating. Its trial by fire, women don't give you an individual owners manual when you begin to court them. You learn as you go. Mention women in this forum and shills come out of the woodwork acting as though they are experts in the art of seducing women. Maybe you should get to know them as people before you bother to "court" them? You should at least know a woman well enough to know her frigging intellect level and television watching habits before you start trying to hump your way up her leg. Like I said...doing it wrong. This is good. Makes me want to break out in that song by Julie Andrews I think that says "getting to know you, getting to know all about you...". From The Sound of Music. Other than that, I have no further comments on the subject for I am not qualified in that my track record is zilch. Too smart I guess. lol Last Edited by Ms. Superduper on 09/30/2013 11:45 AM Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45162112 United States 09/30/2013 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm 23. Quite attractive and have had more women than years I have lived. I've also been in several medium length relationships. I've been with my current girl for 19 months, the one before that for 15 months and another longer one before that, with short termers in between. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45162112 Your math and/or your facts are flawed as hell. But you're right, especially in your age range, I expect the girls are mostly dumbshits, but if you look around REAL close, you're the exception, not the rule, to the MALE side of it all as well. How many guys do you know My math is flawed. That's funny. I could tear that idiotic remark apart but its not worth my time. I started dating the one before those 2 when I was 16. We broke up several times sometimes for months apart. You know none of the fact so before you try and belittle me at least make sure you have a clue what the fuck you're talking about. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46733749 United States 09/30/2013 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a fine line between right and wrong in dating. Its trial by fire, women don't give you an individual owners manual when you begin to court them. You learn as you go. Mention women in this forum and shills come out of the woodwork acting as though they are experts in the art of seducing women. Maybe you should get to know them as people before you bother to "court" them? You should at least know a woman well enough to know her frigging intellect level and television watching habits before you start trying to hump your way up her leg. Like I said...doing it wrong. Everyone I have been in long term relationships with I had known for years before hand. I obviously haven't dated every girl I have been with. You are attempting to turn this into some sex based thread and its far from that. Yes I went through a phase during an after high school where I slept with a lot of girls, I'm not proud of it and as I've grown older I've saw the hollowness of emotionless sex which is why I changed my ways. This is more of a thread on how we are being conditioned to focus on what's on TV and mold our lives around it, not my irrelevant past sexual experiences, of which I merely mentioned to give reference to how I've witnessed this condition progress. So, please, go be a dick elsewhere. Discussing current events won't help your relationship. Get a clue. My wife knows a lot about such things. She intelligent by the very standard measures, like degrees. But still, discussion of current events makes her nasty. I avoid it. Take a clue, OP. This is what women are like. For current event discussions, talk to men, or at least to women who are not your romantic partners. It's just how women are. You have learned this truth by observation, now stop fighting it and accept it. Why are women the way they are? Why are men the way we are? I dunno. It just is what it is. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45162112 United States 09/30/2013 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I simply wanted to discuss how much women my age are consumed by reality TV.. didn't want to start an argument.. and yeah you're right I wont find anyone else because when my present one leaves me I don't have it in me to try for another and none would be interested in a paraplegic unemployed 23 year old anyways.. I wasn't down talking women I'm just onmy phone and often misconvey what iI mean to say on it as I'm in a hurry.. I do apologize, I didn't mean any negativity.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3795766 United States 09/30/2013 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The answer is simple; we live at a time when people (men and women) are severely mentally corrupted. The majority can be considered narcissists which don't understand or care to understand reason or objectivity and the rest are just dumbed down to the point of being zombies. |
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Doomish User ID: 46951738 United States 09/30/2013 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I simply wanted to discuss how much women my age are consumed by reality TV.. didn't want to start an argument.. and yeah you're right I wont find anyone else because when my present one leaves me I don't have it in me to try for another and none would be interested in a paraplegic unemployed 23 year old anyways.. I wasn't down talking women I'm just onmy phone and often misconvey what iI mean to say on it as I'm in a hurry.. I do apologize, I didn't mean any negativity.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45162112 This is a tough one. There was a playboy in my high school. Got all the hottest girls. Went 4 wheeling, had an accident, lost the use of his legs. He's a paraplegic as well. Unfortunately, he still had a hoard of girls around him but they all put him in the "friend zone". It took a while for him to break out of that group and start over. He's married now. Be patient. It'll happen. In the end, you may not find a gal interested in conspiracies or alternative news. My hubby isn't. We like to troll the stupid threads together, but the threads with *actual* news and conspiracies? I'm totally on my own. But that's why I have GLP, right? Fulfill that burning need to accept nothing at face value. Trying to bring GLP together. I'm still collecting flags from posters all over the world. Thread: Official "Flags from around the world" thread. Hoping to get posts from all countries that frequent GLP. :gratefulsig: |