Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 1,193 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 708,717
Pageviews Today: 881,082Threads Today: 153Posts Today: 2,570
06:11 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!

 
waterlily

User ID: 46715388
United States
10/08/2013 11:33 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!
This is a life style that, once you experience it, you either hate it or you'll never live any other way again.
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


This looks really good RP. I am working on something similar. A bit larger but along the same basic strategy.

Good Post!

Tesla
 Quoting: Nikola Tesla


Why thank you, Tesla.

What have you got going on?
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


A couple of acres with water available. Shipping containers assembled into a compound of sorts. Each container linked to the other with a hall way.

They can be finished out in what ever manner I can afford comfortably.

I have power but I've designed a separate low voltage 12 volt DC system to operate in the house as well. No AC power? No sweat. The 12 volt system will be solar and batteries.

For me, the key is to keep the stress down. This means no bank loans. I will not extend myself any further than what I can pay for in cash.

So it is a work in process.

I expect to be able to stay there comfortably by next summer.

Providing the SHTF doesn't get too out of control before then.

A financial soothsayer I highly respect and who has a great track record of predictions; says September of 2015 is when all hell will really break loose.

I think I can be ready by then.

Tesla
 Quoting: Nikola Tesla


Good plan! Containers are so sturdy.

I have invested in some small solar powered lamps and shed lights. I bought one of several kinds, then went ahead and bought more of those that seemed pretty good.

Saved on 12v wiring.
*********** WaterLily ***********
" Do I dare
Disturb the universe?"
-- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

*************************************
“We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.”
-- Jorge Luis Borges
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring,
and finished it in the middle of the summer."
-- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei
waterlily

User ID: 46715388
United States
10/08/2013 11:38 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!
There is nothing wrong with a comfortable modest sized home. This fad regarding tiny homes is ridiculous. It's only the governments with their tax thievery that makes home and land ownership so burdensome that it's almost impossible for the average citizen. Even then you never really own your home/land - it's always at risk of forfeiture due to continually rising tax assessments, and bureaucratic errors. They could sell your home investment due to a 0.01 cent error on their tax records in most cases, or throw an impossible penalty,at you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47752440


Tiny homes seem to appeal to young people who are horrified at the debt that comes along with buying a home and the expense required to maintain one.

I don't think most of them have even thought about property taxes, which would of course make these cute little boxes even more appealing.

There is also this new attitude being marketed that smaller is better, go look at the IKEA site and you will see what I mean.

Preparing people to live in less and less space.
*********** WaterLily ***********
" Do I dare
Disturb the universe?"
-- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

*************************************
“We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.”
-- Jorge Luis Borges
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring,
and finished it in the middle of the summer."
-- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei
waterlily

User ID: 46715388
United States
10/08/2013 11:41 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!
I wrote a book about this sort of thing. You cannot just put a house anywhere. Zoning will nail you. If its not the state zoning, it will be the local one. You have to research the area first, not just because there is some land does it mean there is an opportunity legally to do this.

Just some advice, not sure if someone else mentioned it as I have read only half of the replies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47741167


In most places you can bypass zoning regs as long as your home has wheels.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34499611


In the county next door, where I researched this kind of thing, you can only live in a wheeled dwelling 6 months out of the year, otherwise you have a full time dwelling and must comply with Agenda 21 type Uniform Building Codes and zoning.

You really need to do homework before even beginning to collect your materials.
 Quoting: waterlily


What state?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7384957


Idaho, but some Idaho counties are still code-free.

You really need to plan to spend time doing homework, Agenda 21 like regulations are spreading like cancer.
*********** WaterLily ***********
" Do I dare
Disturb the universe?"
-- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

*************************************
“We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.”
-- Jorge Luis Borges
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring,
and finished it in the middle of the summer."
-- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei
ITZCOMING

User ID: 12781064
United States
10/08/2013 11:56 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!
MY home is nearly paid for.

My plan is to take the $$, buy an acre or two, then build and pay cash. My plan is for a well, 5,000 to 10,000 watts of solar and septic so I'm totally off grid, as well as 1,500 gallons at least of rainwater catchment.
The solar will be grid tie, but will be a hybrid so that I can switch to a battery bank should the power fail. That's what I'm doing now but on a small scale. I have 5,000 watt hours of battery capacity. I use the batteries periodically and go through some cycles to keep them up to snuff. Then I switch back to grid tie.

I'd be building now, but affordable land is hard to find, and when I see something good there's a stupid neighborhood assn screwing things up that says I can't have chickens or goats. Funny thing is horses they love, just don't have a goat!

Maybe I can just tell them those are just really little horses. There are some miniature horse farms around here...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 38414601
Mexico
10/08/2013 12:06 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!
That's nice and all but why would you buy a wooden cabin if you can build it with concrete and rebar for the same cost.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 47359476
United States
10/08/2013 12:06 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!
I love tiny house designs, very creative and resourceful.

But the reality is that you have to put it somewhere, and nobody but those with armies actually own the land. You have to find places on earth where the grid cannot lay claim to your spot.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode



that's why they are built on wheels. you can take them anywhere.
waterlily

User ID: 46715388
United States
10/08/2013 01:40 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!
That's nice and all but why would you buy a wooden cabin if you can build it with concrete and rebar for the same cost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38414601


Different vibes. Different culture.

Last Edited by waterlily on 10/08/2013 01:41 PM
*********** WaterLily ***********
" Do I dare
Disturb the universe?"
-- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

*************************************
“We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.”
-- Jorge Luis Borges
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring,
and finished it in the middle of the summer."
-- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei
LADY ENIGMA

User ID: 48071533
United States
10/08/2013 01:49 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!
There is a strong movement this direction. I've been building mostly multimillion dollar homes for 22 years, the past 3 years I have changed it up and build tiny homes, 80 to 800 square feet.

Most people want off the grid or something to go in the back yard. Off grid cost a bit more (solar, compost toilets, well) but its freedom.

And it's Austin, so many people get it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7384957



hf

If you can't post it here, would you mind sending me an email with your info? I'm in Texas.

Thanks!
ENIGMA
pmb1

User ID: 47111243
United States
10/08/2013 04:26 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!
I don't think the tiny house would fit my family of 5. However I did live off grid for 2 years in Maine and had 3 kids all in diapers. It wasn't easy but we were far healthier living like that. We have been talking about doing it again. I think it would be great to do it. To live off grid and way away from everyone again like that. The kids now older would learn how to live off the land, and they would learn so much from not having a TV around.
Vision Thing

User ID: 47483676
United States
10/08/2013 07:25 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!
I have a coworker who bought a few acres in Tenesee. He's totally off grid. Has a little creek he filters water from plus a well.

He built an aluminum type pole barn. Just looks like a small commercial storage building tucked amongst the trees. In the bottom portion he parks his truck, car, 5th wheel camper, and his ATV's.

There is a somewhat hidden door and a stairwell that leads upstairs where he has a beautiful and luxurious little 2 bedroom apartment. You'd never believe it. The windows are luevered hurricane shutters that match the exterior so when there closed you can't tell there's even openings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24495973


I WANT THIS
waterlily

User ID: 46715388
United States
10/08/2013 08:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!
Some people are buying shed kits or already built sheds to uses as small dwellings.

[link to www.hickorysheds.com]

There are companies like this all over the US. I would not want to put one in hurricane or tornado country, but most of them you can buy here have models that will take some decent snow loads.

You can buy them at Home Depot too.
[link to www.homedepot.com]

Tuff Sheds have some very nice models
[link to www.tuffshed.com]

Youtube has a lot of videos on these storage sheds.

We bought a kit this summer, made by a local lumber yard. It was about $2200 for a 10x20 shed, all the pieces. No windows, no man door. My husband put it up in about 3 weekends, working part time on it, then ran electrical into it. Makes a very nice storage unit. We could have got it prebuilt and delivered but there is not room for the truck, so we had to do it this way.

This is what we got for our money:

BASES ARE MADE ON 4" X 4" RUNNERS WITH 2" X 6" FLOOR JOISTS ON 16" CENTERS.
FLOORING IS 3/4" FOR SOLID FOOTING.
ATTRACTIVE ‘T1-11’ SIDING, PRIMED, READY TO PAINT.
CHOICE OF COMPOSITION OR 29GA STEEL ROOFING. SEVERAL COLOR CHOICES ARE AVAILABLE.
AVAILABLE SHED SIZES INCLUDE 4X8, 8X8, 8X12, 8X16, 8X20, 10X16 & 10X20.
SHED'S ARE AVAILABLE PRE-BUILT, KIT FORM OR CAN BE BUILT ON A LEVEL SITE BY A PROFESSIONAL INSTALLER.


My 12 year old grandson immediately saw the potential to use it for a small house, but realistically, in order to have a bathroom, you would have to butt a smaller garden shed onto a side or end.

This is a quick option for a small dwelling, if you have property where one of these sheds can be delivered, then you finish it inside.

This would probably not meet many building codes. Some places have a minimum size for a family dwelling or a mother-in-law-house.

Last Edited by waterlily on 10/08/2013 08:42 PM
*********** WaterLily ***********
" Do I dare
Disturb the universe?"
-- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

*************************************
“We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.”
-- Jorge Luis Borges
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring,
and finished it in the middle of the summer."
-- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43003237
United States
10/08/2013 11:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!


[link to www.youtube.com]

im working on making one of these this week
waterlily

User ID: 46715388
United States
10/09/2013 10:22 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: How To Have A Home WITHOUT House Payments OR Utility Bills!!


[link to www.youtube.com]

im working on making one of these this week
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43003237


Let us know how it turns out.
*********** WaterLily ***********
" Do I dare
Disturb the universe?"
-- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

*************************************
“We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.”
-- Jorge Luis Borges
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring,
and finished it in the middle of the summer."
-- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei

News








We're dropping truth bombs like it's the end of days!