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Look I understand your negativity towards Christianity. I get that there may be know way for you to ever believe in the true God that I know and love, but regardless of this, you should address the counter argument of your claim. First of all when you say that God isn't real because no one has seen him or he does not show himself, you forget that long ago, in biblical times God proved himself through Jesus by performing the miracles written in the first four books of the New Testament. Jesus not only healed people, he fed several people by splitting the bread and fish out of only FIVE baskets. He has also been witnessed to be walking on water and of course resurrecting from the dead. These accounts have been written in the bible by EYE-WITNESSES of Jesus. Therefore God has no need to prove himself to us because he has already done so through JESUS. Second of all I will assess the validity of the Bible. It has been written over a period of 1600 years by over 40 authors across 3 continents. It contains primary sources of those who have witnessed Jesus, as I mentioned above, and also contains over 300 prophecies that were fulfilled by Jesus himself. On top of that, the Bible is the #1 sold book in the world and has over 1 billion followers who believe in Jesus. Because of this evidence, there is no need to examine other religions because the Bible stands for itself, it does not need to be compared to other belief systems. Next I will address the creation theories using logic and reason. The most common creation theory of the universe as you know is the Big Bang Theory, which is obviously false when considering it with logic. The Big Bang Theory states that the universe was created essentially from a huge cosmic explosion and ever since the universe has been expanding. However this cannot be true because we well know that Mass cannot be created nor destroyed so how did the original mass in the universe get there if Mass cannot be created? That's right, there had to be a supreme creator of the universe in order to place the first creations into life. This makes far more sense because then after the Earth was created, God created the living beings to inhabit the Earth. Which brings me to my next point about evolution. Evolution states that everything in a sense came from nothing. If evolution is true then how long will it take if I hold my empty hands for a human to sprout out of my palms? 1 million years? 1 billion years? How about 1 trillion? No, it will never happen because everything had to have a creator. Now aside from that evolution does make legitimate points about natural selection and mutations to change species. I don't have a problem with that, I am only concerned with how it all started. Alright, now I will procede to talk about prayer, amputees, and your misconceptions about them. When you say prayers are not always answered, you neglect to realize that God can answer with yes, no, or later. He will not always give you what you want because he sometimes want you to figure it out. Also if everyone was healed then no one would ever die and then Heaven would be empty. Finally to end my argument, I will say that no matter how much you pick and criticize my religion, you will never knock me down because I am a martyr. I will die for my religion and if I do fall, my Lord will pick me back up. If you have more questions go to carm.org its a good site for any questions you may have. That's all I have and I pray that you come to the Lord. By the power of God, I Love you man. Romans 1:16
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paragraphs are your friend bibletard
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Christianity has been PROVEN false.
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tldr
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Mother fucker paragraph that shit!resist
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3-5 sentences per paragraph!
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Look I understand your negativity towards Christianity. I get that there may be know way for you to ever believe in the true God that I know and love, but regardless of this, you should address the counter argument of your claim.


First of all when you say that God isn't real because no one has seen him or he does not show himself, you forget that long ago, in biblical times God proved himself through Jesus by performing the miracles written in the first four books of the New Testament. Jesus not only healed people, he fed several people by splitting the bread and fish out of only FIVE baskets. He has also been witnessed to be walking on water and of course resurrecting from the dead.


These accounts have been written in the bible by EYE-WITNESSES of Jesus. Therefore God has no need to prove himself to us because he has already done so through JESUS.


Second of all I will assess the validity of the Bible. It has been written over a period of 1600 years by over 40 authors across 3 continents. It contains primary sources of those who have witnessed Jesus, as I mentioned above, and also contains over 300 prophecies that were fulfilled by Jesus himself.


On top of that, the Bible is the #1 sold book in the world and has over 1 billion followers who believe in Jesus. Because of this evidence, there is no need to examine other religions because the Bible stands for itself, it does not need to be compared to other belief systems.


Next I will address the creation theories using logic and reason. The most common creation theory of the universe as you know is the Big Bang Theory, which is obviously false when considering it with logic. The Big Bang Theory states that the universe was created essentially from a huge cosmic explosion and ever since the universe has been expanding. However this cannot be true because we well know that Mass cannot be created nor destroyed so how did the original mass in the universe get there if Mass cannot be created? That's right, there had to be a supreme creator of the universe in order to place the first creations into life.


This makes far more sense because then after the Earth was created, God created the living beings to inhabit the Earth. Which brings me to my next point about evolution.


Evolution states that everything in a sense came from nothing. If evolution is true then how long will it take if I hold my empty hands for a human to sprout out of my palms? 1 million years? 1 billion years? How about 1 trillion? No, it will never happen because everything had to have a creator.


Now aside from that evolution does make legitimate points about natural selection and mutations to change species. I don't have a problem with that, I am only concerned with how it all started.


Alright, now I will procede to talk about prayer, amputees, and your misconceptions about them. When you say prayers are not always answered, you neglect to realize that God can answer with yes, no, or later. He will not always give you what you want because he sometimes want you to figure it out. Also if everyone was healed then no one would ever die and then Heaven would be empty.


Finally to end my argument, I will say that no matter how much you pick and criticize my religion, you will never knock me down because I am a martyr. I will die for my religion and if I do fall, my Lord will pick me back up.


If you have more questions go to carm.org its a good site for any questions you may have. That's all I have and I pray that you come to the Lord.

By the power of God, I Love you man.
Romans 1:16
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Fixed
:ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd:
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Regardless of the paragraphs, you still only rely on your mere words of "Christianity has been proven false," when in reality you have no evidence.
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God is evident in the Miracles attributed to Jesus, reported by eye-witnesses in the New Testament. This is why God doesn't currently dance for Man.

The Bible is old and contains eyewitnesses of Jesus, and has prophecies that seem to be fulfilled by Jesus Christ. The Bible is a best-seller for many, many weeks and Christ has a whole heckuvalot of followers. Due to this, the Bible is superior and other religious tomes are inferior, and no need to go looking.

Big Bang is false because Mass cannot be created nor destroyed. If you hold your hands out for a while, life forms do not appear. Mutations are okay with OP.

Prayers aren't answered because sometimes you have to figure stuff out for yourself.

OP is a Martyr, and has died for his religious beliefs and has been tubthumping.

Go to spammed website to learn more.


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Cliffnotes version.
:ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd:
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Regardless of the paragraphs, you still only rely on your mere words of "Christianity has been proven false," when in reality you have no evidence.
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OP I am Christian and the best thing I can say about your post is that it seems Earnest.

However, it is unlikey you're going to win any converts with what you wrote. It's too simple, like it was written for 2nd graders. So either this is your level of understanding or you are condescending. Either way, kinda unfit to evangelize.

I feel your efforts are appreciated but your talents may lie elsewhere for the Lord.

Yes?
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Thank You Holy Diver for your constructive criticism. It is a blessing to see other believers who can give support.
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Damn..."yawn"


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God is evident in the Miracles attributed to Jesus, reported by eye-witnesses in the New Testament. This is why God doesn't currently dance for Man.

The Bible is old and contains eyewitnesses of Jesus, and has prophecies that seem to be fulfilled by Jesus Christ. The Bible is a best-seller for many, many weeks and Christ has a whole heckuvalot of followers. Due to this, the Bible is superior and other religious tomes are inferior, and no need to go looking.

Big Bang is false because Mass cannot be created nor destroyed. If you hold your hands out for a while, life forms do not appear. Mutations are okay with OP.

Prayers aren't answered because sometimes you have to figure stuff out for yourself.

OP is a Martyr, and has died for his religious beliefs and has been tubthumping.

Go to spammed website to learn more.


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Cliffnotes version.
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Thanks Diver, somehow that was a bit too long also...
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Regardless of the paragraphs, you still only rely on your mere words of "Christianity has been proven false," when in reality you have no evidence.
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You are the one without proof.. You have faith instead.
Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

I'd like to go quietly in my sleep, like grandpa did. Not screaming in terror like the people in the back seat of the car he was driving.

You should have nailed it to a tree and made it feel like Jesus. - Brief
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Christianity has been PROVEN false.
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By who?
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Regardless of the paragraphs, you still only rely on your mere words of "Christianity has been proven false," when in reality you have no evidence.
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You are the one without proof.. You have faith instead.
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Evolution is based strictly on faith without evidence.
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Word wall: a wall of words
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Regardless of the paragraphs, you still only rely on your mere words of "Christianity has been proven false," when in reality you have no evidence.
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You are the one without proof.. You have faith instead.
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Evolution is based strictly on faith without evidence.
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Shove your head in the sand and keep telling yourself that.
Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

I'd like to go quietly in my sleep, like grandpa did. Not screaming in terror like the people in the back seat of the car he was driving.

You should have nailed it to a tree and made it feel like Jesus. - Brief
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"He has also been witnessed to be walking on water and of course resurrecting from the dead. These accounts have been written in the bible by EYE-WITNESSES of Jesus."

0o

1. NO ONE WITNESSED JESUS RESURRECTING FROM THE DEAD.

2. NONE OF THE AUTHORS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT EVER MET JESUS IN THE FLESH.


try and prove me wrong, you'll learn something on the way.