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There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!!

 
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I've been following this thread for a while and I was hoping someone would produce good evidence to support these sightings as a real anomaly. That would be fascinating.

Sadly, good evidence is still not forthcoming. I haven't seen anything that cannot be plausibly explained by mundane things like contrails or misidentified known celestial objects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48401792


This was one of the better videos, IMO. The "contrail"-esque object, up close and personal.

[link to youtu.be]

Looks a lot like the image at 01:01:26 in this video:

[link to youtu.be]

The challenge with viewing this object is that you constantly have to have your eyes and camera equipment ready, and no one seems to be diligent enough to do this on a regular basis!

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Wow is all I can say...You just went 0 - 5, you are now 0 - 17...Let's review your piss-poor work...

1) You were asked to any questions from another user's post on this subject, you did not answer them. I responded to a post where a person asked 3 simple, relevant questions. I replied, "don't worry they won't answer any of them". You then quoted me about that post, but referred to my questions being answered. This is about credibility.

2)You insulted members of this forum by saying they don't know how to use their own apps that they USED to be able to use OR they are lying. Wow, how convenient. Let me try, you and Astro do not know how to use telescopes and cameras OR you are lying. Which one is it?

3) No (while you did answer), your answer doesn't put you in any position to tell others what they are seeing for the 1st time in their lives.

4) No (see #3)

5) I said everyone MINUS 5-7, so until you NAME 8 people to contradict what I said, you are WRONG. Also, I said PROVE (a word I learned to manipulate people with from Astro) Your opinion about whatever mumbo jumbo baby solar system that took a left turn at 21st and Lewis (famous L.A. intersection--google map it) comes with NO LINK, NO EVIDENCE, NO NOTHING. That ain't PROOF, ask Astro.

0 - 17...And it's MLB playoff time, DAMN.

Nice try Setheory (no more name-calling from me) even if you all us the Bitch Kitty pic (are those cute pics issued to you all when you accept your "jobs")? At any rate, you talk about using the "quote" system so I assume you know how to use it. So when you quote my response to another poster about HIS questions, and then say my 12 questions were answered, it is mis-leading at best. Yes, one person (not any of your "clique") intelligently answered every question and never insulted nor resorted to name-calling. Look him up and emulate. So perhaps, I will send him the pictures and not post them here....

In the meantime, let's give YOU some new questions since YOU are 0 - 12 right now.

1)Can you answer any of the questions from the post which you dishonestly referenced above?

2) Can you explain why at least 2 people on this thread have reported your "New Venus"/"Permanent Contrail" vs. our "Unknown object of mass in the SW evening sky" does NOT EVEN GET RECOGNIZED/ACKNOWLEDGED by their sky apps?

3) Do you OWN an IRAS Telescope?

4) How often do you use/have access to an IRAS Telescope?

5) Can you prove that what EVERYONE on this thread (less 5 - 7 people) is seeing is NOT the object from the 1983 Washington Post article?

And let's be clear, for the record, I THEORIZE that it is. And my pictures damn near confirm it. And government shutdowns, NASA shutdowns, 7.1 EQ in Philippines yesterday, 7.7 EQ in Pakistan last week, don't make me theory less plausible, do they?

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I will answer your questions this time. That being said, my bet is you will still not provide any photos and if you do they will be of Venus. Additionally, I didn’t say anything about your ability to use the quote system. That was someone else. Here we go…


1)Can you answer any of the questions from the post which you dishonestly referenced above?

Yes and you could have done so as well. You were provided with a link but refused to do the work yourself.

2) Can you explain why at least 2 people on this thread have reported your "New Venus"/"Permanent Contrail" vs. our "Unknown object of mass in the SW evening sky" does NOT EVEN GET RECOGNIZED/ACKNOWLEDGED by their sky apps?

My guess is they were using it incorrectly or simply not telling the truth.

3) Do you OWN an IRAS Telescope?

No and I don’t know anyone who does.

4) How often do you use/have access to an IRAS Telescope?

Never

5) Can you prove that what EVERYONE on this thread (less 5 - 7 people) is seeing is NOT the object from the 1983 Washington Post article?

It is clear from the different reports (including yours which seems to be much more Venus-like) that EVERYONE is not seeing the same thing. I believe the object you are referring to turned out to be an ultra-luminous young galaxy and is not in the same vicinity as the object in question. So my answer is yes.

Where will you be posting your photos?
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No the person's statement is not false. I have been seeing it every night too. I made the mistake of thinking it was just Venus ... BUT wondered why it was so much larger and nearer than I have ever seen Venus before in my entire life. It is not Venus ... unless the planet has drastically altered its orbit. Just don't know what it is.

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I have a question for you, friend: a neighbor called me last night with the same questions (she and her husband have a perfect view of the horizon above our valley). I had mentioned to her this strange star that some are seeing, and she instantly recalled observing it a couple of weeks ago. But she was wondering if it was Venus because she couldn't imagine anything else that bright in the sky, and in her 65 years of stargazing she had never seen Venus that bright. So it caught her attention. I asked her to use sky charts tonight to more accurately determine what she is seeing, and I may drive over to help her navigate the area. Could very well be that she is only seeing Venus.

So my question for you is this: was this the only bright object in the sky at the time? How do you know that it wasn't Venus? I am not doubting you, but I am wondering if/how you positively eliminated Venus as a candidate.

Having said that, even if what you and my neighbor saw was Venus, I think it is peculiar that so many people are suddenly noticing how bright the planet is. It's not as if the planet just showed up this year. We are talking about the morning and evening star - the most well-recognized object in the night sky other than the moon. And yet so many people are suddenly being struck by its brightness? Makes one wonder whether other planets may be experiencing the effects of "whatever" is out there.
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It was far too big and close to be Venus, unless there is something really, really wrong with its orbit. Also way too bright for Venus. I am accustomed to seeing Venus and thus familiar with what it looks like. Take that image of Venus and make it 1,000 brighter (just a guess) and probably four times bigger and much, much closer and that what it looked like to me. It doesn't matter if you doubt me. It is either Venus with something really wrong or it is something else. Will be interesting to find out what it is.


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And you have photos to prove it?
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180 pages and not a clear picture from the believers like this one: Thread: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset (Page 2)

or this: Thread: There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!! (Page 10)

Last Edited by BoxerLvr on 10/15/2013 04:31 PM
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I've been following this thread for a while and I was hoping someone would produce good evidence to support these sightings as a real anomaly. That would be fascinating.
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I agree, that would be cool. However, it is also interesting to see the types of objects that people misidentify in the night sky. There is value in that, as it presents a learning opportunity.
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Well, it does show venus, but it isn't even in the visible sky at that time. Mercury was, but it was significantly far enough away from where I was pointing. I have tried this 3 times. I will try again tomorrow.
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Your 'ipad starwatchers' app sucks then...LOL. What is the name of it? If Mercury were visible so was Venus. Mercury sets before Venus.

Venus is the brightest object in the SW sky at sunset. From my location, Venus rises at 11:01 AM and sets at 9:03 PM, so by the time you see it at sunset it has been 'out' for most of the day. It's so bright that it can even be seen in broad daylight if you know exactly where to look.....I located it last week at 2:30 PM.
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Let me try, you and Astro do not know how to use telescopes and cameras OR you are lying. Which one is it?
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Alright, I've had enough of this. I have provided tons and tons of proof that I do know how to operate telescopes and astronomical cameras just fine. Where is there any evidence to the contrary? Making ridiculous claims like "my derpa derpa program shows that Mercury is up but not Venus right now" when Mercury currently sets before Venus shows that people are clearly having problems operating their own astronomy apps. Basic calculations can show you that Mercury sets before Venus after sunset right now. The only sensible conclusion is that certain tards on this thread don't know how to operate their apps properly, let alone know to calibrate their phone's compass before trying to use it to locate a planet they can't find simply by looking at a star chart.
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Your 'ipad starwatchers' app sucks then...LOL. What is the name of it? If Mercury were visible so was Venus. Mercury sets before Venus.

Venus is the brightest object in the SW sky at sunset. From my location, Venus rises at 11:01 AM and sets at 9:03 PM, so by the time you see it at sunset it has been 'out' for most of the day. It's so bright that it can even be seen in broad daylight if you know exactly where to look.....I located it last week at 2:30 PM.
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Re: There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!!
I've been following this thread for a while and I was hoping someone would produce good evidence to support these sightings as a real anomaly. That would be fascinating.

Sadly, good evidence is still not forthcoming. I haven't seen anything that cannot be plausibly explained by mundane things like contrails or misidentified known celestial objects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48401792


This was one of the better videos, IMO. The "contrail"-esque object, up close and personal.

[link to youtu.be]

Looks a lot like the image at 01:01:26 in this video:

[link to youtu.be]

The challenge with viewing this object is that you constantly have to have your eyes and camera equipment ready, and no one seems to be diligent enough to do this on a regular basis!
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I'm keeping an open mind about it but, in my opinion, I'm looking at a plane in the first video. To me, the dark circular area between the 'tails' is the fuselage.

The footage is unfortunately far too blurred to say what it is for sure so I sincerely hope someone proves me wrong.
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The extreme crescent phase of Venus can be seen without a telescope by those with exceptionally acute eyesight, at the limit of human perception. The angular resolution of the naked eye is about 1 minute of arc. The apparent disk of Venus' extreme crescent measures between 60.2 and 66 seconds of arc,[3] depending on the distance from Earth. Nevertheless it is possible for observers with extremely acute eyesight to see a crescent Venus under ideal atmospheric circumstances.

Is this accurate? If so, what is being reported on this thread seems to challenge this. Please explain to the lay-folks, Astro, Geo, Boxer or my new buddy, Seth.

By the way, beware of Boxer, he posted "side by side" pics from a poster and from stellarium (sp). Except, he got called out for lying/manipulating images and the THREAD ENDED. Look it up.
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3) No (while you did answer), your answer doesn't put you in any position to tell others what they are seeing for the 1st time in their lives.

4) No (see #3)
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The criteria is an utterly irrelevant red herring. You don't have to have or have operate a long-dead infrared space telescope to know enough about astronomy to provide correct information on what people on this thread are seeing.

It's as silly as me asking you, have you ever owned or operated the Robinson Observatory? No? Then your answer doesn't put you in any position to tell others what they are seeing for the 1st time in their lives. How about IRAS, have you ever operated IRAS? No? Have you actually bothered to look up the research articles detailing what it really was that IRAS discovered? No? Then what makes you think you're in any position to tell people that what they see by naked eye is the same thing IRAS saw in 1983? You don't have to have operated the telescope to look up the research it performed and find out what it really discovered.
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The extreme crescent phase of Venus can be seen without a telescope by those with exceptionally acute eyesight, at the limit of human perception. The angular resolution of the naked eye is about 1 minute of arc. The apparent disk of Venus' extreme crescent measures between 60.2 and 66 seconds of arc,[3] depending on the distance from Earth. Nevertheless it is possible for observers with extremely acute eyesight to see a crescent Venus under ideal atmospheric circumstances.

Is this accurate? If so, what is being reported on this thread seems to challenge this. Please explain to the lay-folks, Astro, Geo, Boxer or my new buddy, Seth.

By the way, beware of Boxer, he posted "side by side" pics from a poster and from stellarium (sp). Except, he got called out for lying/manipulating images and the THREAD ENDED. Look it up.
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YOU'RE A LIAR! Yes, please do go look for yourself and see what a lying piece of shit 3rdEyeE is. Thread: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset (Page 2)

Last Edited by BoxerLvr on 10/15/2013 04:51 PM
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The extreme crescent phase of Venus can be seen without a telescope by those with exceptionally acute eyesight, at the limit of human perception. The angular resolution of the naked eye is about 1 minute of arc. The apparent disk of Venus' extreme crescent measures between 60.2 and 66 seconds of arc,[3] depending on the distance from Earth. Nevertheless it is possible for observers with extremely acute eyesight to see a crescent Venus under ideal atmospheric circumstances.

Is this accurate? If so, what is being reported on this thread seems to challenge this. Please explain to the lay-folks, Astro, Geo, Boxer or my new buddy, Seth.

By the way, beware of Boxer, he posted "side by side" pics from a poster and from stellarium (sp). Except, he got called out for lying/manipulating images and the THREAD ENDED. Look it up.
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YOU'RE A LIAR! Yes, please do go look for yourself and see what a lying piece of shit 3rdEyeE is. Thread: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset (Page 2)
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That's funny. I don't recall that at all.
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The extreme crescent phase of Venus can be seen without a telescope by those with exceptionally acute eyesight, at the limit of human perception. The angular resolution of the naked eye is about 1 minute of arc. The apparent disk of Venus' extreme crescent measures between 60.2 and 66 seconds of arc,[3] depending on the distance from Earth. Nevertheless it is possible for observers with extremely acute eyesight to see a crescent Venus under ideal atmospheric circumstances.

Is this accurate? If so, what is being reported on this thread seems to challenge this. Please explain to the lay-folks, Astro, Geo, Boxer or my new buddy, Seth.

By the way, beware of Boxer, he posted "side by side" pics from a poster and from stellarium (sp). Except, he got called out for lying/manipulating images and the THREAD ENDED. Look it up.
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So now you're engaging in defamation against Boxer, how nice. Venus is not currently a crescent phase, genius, and is not an arcminute in size. It's current apparent size is less than half that, 22 arcseconds. It takes an extraordinarily sharp eyed observer to resolve the crescent shape of Venus by eye, if it is truly possible at all, it is right at the limit of human vision under the best conditions and we are nowhere near such conditions currently. It is ludicrous and ignorant to suggest that misidentification of Venus is impossible because you can theoretically just barely resolve it by eye under ideal conditions.
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Let me try, you and Astro do not know how to use telescopes and cameras OR you are lying. Which one is it?
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Alright, I've had enough of this. I have provided tons and tons of proof that I do know how to operate telescopes and astronomical cameras just fine. Where is there any evidence to the contrary? Making ridiculous claims like "my derpa derpa program shows that Mercury is up but not Venus right now" when Mercury currently sets before Venus shows that people are clearly having problems operating their own astronomy apps. Basic calculations can show you that Mercury sets before Venus after sunset right now. The only sensible conclusion is that certain tards on this thread don't know how to operate their apps properly, let alone know to calibrate their phone's compass before trying to use it to locate a planet they can't find simply by looking at a star chart.
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Oh, dear. You sound exhausted, cranky and annoyed.

Might it not be easier on your nerves and your sanity if you simply left this thread and the people with their poorly-calibrated apps...? I'm being perfectly serious, btw. How much do you really have invested in this teaching opportunity?

I know people who don't even spend this much time "teaching" their own children. Sad, yes, but it's the truth.

Life is too short to spend it arguing with those who appear to be driving you crazy. I mean, really...consider your health.
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Re: There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!!
I've been following this thread for a while and I was hoping someone would produce good evidence to support these sightings as a real anomaly. That would be fascinating.

Sadly, good evidence is still not forthcoming. I haven't seen anything that cannot be plausibly explained by mundane things like contrails or misidentified known celestial objects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48401792


This was one of the better videos, IMO. The "contrail"-esque object, up close and personal.

[link to youtu.be]

Looks a lot like the image at 01:01:26 in this video:

[link to youtu.be]

The challenge with viewing this object is that you constantly have to have your eyes and camera equipment ready, and no one seems to be diligent enough to do this on a regular basis!
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I'm keeping an open mind about it but, in my opinion, I'm looking at a plane in the first video. To me, the dark circular area between the 'tails' is the fuselage.

The footage is unfortunately far too blurred to say what it is for sure so I sincerely hope someone proves me wrong.
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I understand. I am still at a loss to explain the image in the first video. suspect that IF this object is real and getting closer we will
have better opportunities for close-up viewing as time progresses.
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The extreme crescent phase of Venus can be seen without a telescope by those with exceptionally acute eyesight, at the limit of human perception. The angular resolution of the naked eye is about 1 minute of arc. The apparent disk of Venus' extreme crescent measures between 60.2 and 66 seconds of arc,[3] depending on the distance from Earth. Nevertheless it is possible for observers with extremely acute eyesight to see a crescent Venus under ideal atmospheric circumstances.

Is this accurate? If so, what is being reported on this thread seems to challenge this. Please explain to the lay-folks, Astro, Geo, Boxer or my new buddy, Seth.

By the way, beware of Boxer, he posted "side by side" pics from a poster and from stellarium (sp). Except, he got called out for lying/manipulating images and the THREAD ENDED. Look it up.
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YOU'RE A LIAR! Yes, please do go look for yourself and see what a lying piece of shit 3rdEyeE is. Thread: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset (Page 2)
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Yup, he's just another lying kook.
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Folks please go look at the thread about this SAME VERY SUBJECT/OBJECT...titled, "Re: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset"

You will see the thread ENDED on 10/8 when Boxer was photographically proven to be a FRAUD. The thread laid dormant for A WEEK, until today. I replied to the LAST poster and bumped them for exposing BoxerBoy.

Guess what happened, EXACTLY two people responded AFTER my post and Boxer call out...Guees who?

1) Boxer---Called me a tard, but did NOT explain his "side by side" fraudulent pics

2) Astro---Called me a kook

Coincidence, or have the shills been "ASSigned" to me? You all decide???
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Folks please go look at the thread about this SAME VERY SUBJECT/OBJECT...titled, "Re: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset"

You will see the thread ENDED on 10/8 when Boxer was photographically proven to be a FRAUD. The thread laid dormant for A WEEK, until today. I replied to the LAST poster and bumped them for exposing BoxerBoy.

Guess what happened, EXACTLY two people responded AFTER my post and Boxer call out...Guees who?

1) Boxer---Called me a tard, but did NOT explain his "side by side" fraudulent pics

2) Astro---Called me a kook

Coincidence, or have the shills been "ASSigned" to me? You all decide???
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Who gives a shit. How about posting evidence of this anomaly you're seeing.

Or do you prefer talking out your ass instead.
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Folks please go look at the thread about this SAME VERY SUBJECT/OBJECT...titled, "Re: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset"

You will see the thread ENDED on 10/8 when Boxer was photographically proven to be a FRAUD. The thread laid dormant for A WEEK, until today. I replied to the LAST poster and bumped them for exposing BoxerBoy.

Guess what happened, EXACTLY two people responded AFTER my post and Boxer call out...Guees who?

1) Boxer---Called me a tard, but did NOT explain his "side by side" fraudulent pics

2) Astro---Called me a kook

Coincidence, or have the shills been "ASSigned" to me? You all decide???
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WTF are you talking about. What fraudulent pics? It ended because everyone could see it was Venus. No, I wasn't proven a fraud. You're a liar. Anyone that can read can see what a lying piece of shit you are. Thread: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset (Page 2)
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Folks please go look at the thread about this SAME VERY SUBJECT/OBJECT...titled, "Re: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset"

You will see the thread ENDED on 10/8 when Boxer was photographically proven to be a FRAUD. The thread laid dormant for A WEEK, until today. I replied to the LAST poster and bumped them for exposing BoxerBoy.

Guess what happened, EXACTLY two people responded AFTER my post and Boxer call out...Guees who?

1) Boxer---Called me a tard, but did NOT explain his "side by side" fraudulent pics

2) Astro---Called me a kook

Coincidence, or have the shills been "ASSigned" to me? You all decide???
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I called you a LYING kook. Listen up you lying piece of shit, Boxer did not alter the image that was posted at all. All he did was directly compare it to Stellarium with a side by side to show that it was just Venus. "The tree lines don't match" because Stellarium's "tree line" is just a generic horizon image, it's not supposed to match, the important thing is that the stars and planet match the image that was presented. Stellarium generates virtual images of what the sky should look like based on the planets' orbits, it doesn't have magical powers to know what your personal tree and roof lines look like unless you put those pictures into it yourself.
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Folks please go look at the thread about this SAME VERY SUBJECT/OBJECT...titled, "Re: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset"

You will see the thread ENDED on 10/8 when Boxer was photographically proven to be a FRAUD. The thread laid dormant for A WEEK, until today. I replied to the LAST poster and bumped them for exposing BoxerBoy.

Guess what happened, EXACTLY two people responded AFTER my post and Boxer call out...Guees who?

1) Boxer---Called me a tard, but did NOT explain his "side by side" fraudulent pics

2) Astro---Called me a kook

Coincidence, or have the shills been "ASSigned" to me? You all decide???
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Please explain how he got proven to be a fraud? Link me to where in that thread these claims were made....I'm waiting....
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Wow is all I can say...You just went 0 - 5, you are now 0 - 17...Let's review your piss-poor work...

1) You were asked to any questions from another user's post on this subject, you did not answer them. I responded to a post where a person asked 3 simple, relevant questions. I replied, "don't worry they won't answer any of them". You then quoted me about that post, but referred to my questions being answered. This is about credibility.

2)You insulted members of this forum by saying they don't know how to use their own apps that they USED to be able to use OR they are lying. Wow, how convenient. Let me try, you and Astro do not know how to use telescopes and cameras OR you are lying. Which one is it?

3) No (while you did answer), your answer doesn't put you in any position to tell others what they are seeing for the 1st time in their lives.

4) No (see #3)

5) I said everyone MINUS 5-7, so until you NAME 8 people to contradict what I said, you are WRONG. Also, I said PROVE (a word I learned to manipulate people with from Astro) Your opinion about whatever mumbo jumbo baby solar system that took a left turn at 21st and Lewis (famous L.A. intersection--google map it) comes with NO LINK, NO EVIDENCE, NO NOTHING. That ain't PROOF, ask Astro.

0 - 17...And it's MLB playoff time, DAMN.

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All of your questions have been answered; some not to your satisfaction. Not my problem.

No pictures from you yet. Not surprising.

Your replies are getting more and more belligerent. You are making promises to post pictures if people answer your questions > your questions get answered > you don’t post said pictures. Color me surprised….
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2)You insulted members of this forum by saying they don't know how to use their own apps that they USED to be able to use OR they are lying. Wow, how convenient. Let me try, you and Astro do not know how to use telescopes and cameras OR you are lying. Which one is it?
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And please note, you can’t seem to figure out how to use the GLP quote system. (notice how all your replies are at the top of the post)

How would it be in any way surprising that you couldn’t figure out how to use an Astronomy app?
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Don't get impatient, Sethy...Btw, why are your boys cursing again? I thought that was both defensive and counter-productive? Did I strike a shill nerve? Just shill out, I have a job, and unlike you, posting on here is not it. You know I had to open an account against my wishes, but Sethy made me do it.

Wow is all I can say...You just went 0 - 5, you are now 0 - 17...Let's review your piss-poor work...

1) You were asked to any questions from another user's post on this subject, you did not answer them. I responded to a post where a person asked 3 simple, relevant questions. I replied, "don't worry they won't answer any of them". You then quoted me about that post, but referred to my questions being answered. This is about credibility.

2)You insulted members of this forum by saying they don't know how to use their own apps that they USED to be able to use OR they are lying. Wow, how convenient. Let me try, you and Astro do not know how to use telescopes and cameras OR you are lying. Which one is it?

3) No (while you did answer), your answer doesn't put you in any position to tell others what they are seeing for the 1st time in their lives.

4) No (see #3)

5) I said everyone MINUS 5-7, so until you NAME 8 people to contradict what I said, you are WRONG. Also, I said PROVE (a word I learned to manipulate people with from Astro) Your opinion about whatever mumbo jumbo baby solar system that took a left turn at 21st and Lewis (famous L.A. intersection--google map it) comes with NO LINK, NO EVIDENCE, NO NOTHING. That ain't PROOF, ask Astro.

0 - 17...And it's MLB playoff time, DAMN.

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All of your questions have been answered; some not to your satisfaction. Not my problem.

No pictures from you yet. Not surprising.

Your replies are getting more and more belligerent. You are making promises to post pictures if people answer your questions > your questions get answered > you don’t post said pictures. Color me surprised….
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062
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Folks please go look at the thread about this SAME VERY SUBJECT/OBJECT...titled, "Re: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset"

You will see the thread ENDED on 10/8 when Boxer was photographically proven to be a FRAUD. The thread laid dormant for A WEEK, until today. I replied to the LAST poster and bumped them for exposing BoxerBoy.

Guess what happened, EXACTLY two people responded AFTER my post and Boxer call out...Guees who?

1) Boxer---Called me a tard, but did NOT explain his "side by side" fraudulent pics

2) Astro---Called me a kook

Coincidence, or have the shills been "ASSigned" to me? You all decide???
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Please explain how he got proven to be a fraud? Link me to where in that thread these claims were made....I'm waiting....
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2)You insulted members of this forum by saying they don't know how to use their own apps that they USED to be able to use OR they are lying. Wow, how convenient. Let me try, you and Astro do not know how to use telescopes and cameras OR you are lying. Which one is it?
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And please note, you can’t seem to figure out how to use the GLP quote system. (notice how all your replies are at the top of the post)

How would it be in any way surprising that you couldn’t figure out how to use an Astronomy app?

 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


Darn, I don't work on here, so I don't use the quote system right...Thanks, Sethy. Is this any better? Is it on the bottom? Too bad you don't know how to read or follow a thread, as it was not I who uses an astronomy app? I follow things in the sky the old fashioned way...like the Sumerians, I guess.

By the way, I can follow a thread with quotes or top or bottom b/c I am not programmed one way...Ah damn, Boyaaaaah!!!!
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The extreme crescent phase of Venus can be seen without a telescope by those with exceptionally acute eyesight, at the limit of human perception. The angular resolution of the naked eye is about 1 minute of arc. The apparent disk of Venus' extreme crescent measures between 60.2 and 66 seconds of arc,[3] depending on the distance from Earth. Nevertheless it is possible for observers with extremely acute eyesight to see a crescent Venus under ideal atmospheric circumstances.

Is this accurate? If so, what is being reported on this thread seems to challenge this. Please explain to the lay-folks, Astro, Geo, Boxer or my new buddy, Seth.

By the way, beware of Boxer, he posted "side by side" pics from a poster and from stellarium (sp). Except, he got called out for lying/manipulating images and the THREAD ENDED. Look it up.
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YOU'RE A LIAR! Yes, please do go look for yourself and see what a lying piece of shit 3rdEyeE is. Thread: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset (Page 2)
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LOL! Yes, everyone please go to that page and look.

You don't even understand that "Stellarium" is a simulator and it will not output images with an identical skyline in a comparison.
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Folks please go look at the thread about this SAME VERY SUBJECT/OBJECT...titled, "Re: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset"

You will see the thread ENDED on 10/8 when Boxer was photographically proven to be a FRAUD. The thread laid dormant for A WEEK, until today. I replied to the LAST poster and bumped them for exposing BoxerBoy.

Guess what happened, EXACTLY two people responded AFTER my post and Boxer call out...Guees who?

1) Boxer---Called me a tard, but did NOT explain his "side by side" fraudulent pics

2) Astro---Called me a kook

Coincidence, or have the shills been "ASSigned" to me? You all decide???
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Please explain how he got proven to be a fraud? Link me to where in that thread these claims were made....I'm waiting....
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