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There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!!

 
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Just opened the pic-sharing account...Let's establish some basic FACTS about using lay equipment to photograph objects in the sky/space.

1) It is possible to sse something with your naked eye, but not be able to pick it up in a photograph
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE

Sure, your eye is more sensitive than many simple point and shoot cameras, webcams, and cell phone cameras.

Nevertheless, with proper equipment a camera can see far MORE than the naked eye can see, not less.
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LOL!

Where are the photos you promised 3rdEye?
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Everyone give a big round of applause to Dr. Asstroll and his assistant, Geofagnetic Shill!

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This 3rdEyeE person comes across ass a right Fud !!!!

Just saying..........
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Picture Review Rules and Decorum

1) Who will be the "lens flare" judges, because the shill standard of anything in the picture that I can't identify/explain is "lens flare" or "artifacts" will not suffice?

2) For pics with no other object in the sky (of course within "range" of camera view) as many accounts AND PREVIOUSLY, PERFECTLY WORKING sky apps say NOTHING else is around, how will we determine what object is being photographed?

3) If you hit the "lens flare" button, it will be incumbent upon YOU to provide proof of your claim by either:

Reproducing a similar picture with similar "lens flare"

OR

By finding and posting a picture with similar "lens flare"

I have several pics, and will continue to take more. Will post 1 at a time for review and dialogue. When these simple rules are broken, the pics get shut down.
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Please explain how he got proven to be a fraud? Link me to where in that thread these claims were made....I'm waiting....
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


stopposting1
 Quoting: AlphA Canis Majoris


BirdNoNo
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


LOL, sadly that's probably the better way to respond. I think he only understands image macros.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


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Just opened the pic-sharing account...Let's establish some basic FACTS about using lay equipment to photograph objects in the sky/space.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


How about an apology to Boxer first. You called him a fraud due to your "lack of understanding". (I'm being nice)

You seem to just skip over all your mistakes as if nothing happened. Why is that?
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Everyone give a big round of applause to Dr. Asstroll and his assistant, Geofagnetic Shill!

clappa
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clappa
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Picture Review Rules and Decorum

1) Who will be the "lens flare" judges, because the shill standard of anything in the picture that I can't identify/explain is "lens flare" or "artifacts" will not suffice?

2) For pics with no other object in the sky (of course within "range" of camera view) as many accounts AND PREVIOUSLY, PERFECTLY WORKING sky apps say NOTHING else is around, how will we determine what object is being photographed?

3) If you hit the "lens flare" button, it will be incumbent upon YOU to provide proof of your claim by either:

Reproducing a similar picture with similar "lens flare"

OR

By finding and posting a picture with similar "lens flare"

I have several pics, and will continue to take more. Will post 1 at a time for review and dialogue. When these simple rules are broken, the pics get shut down.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Let's see yours......I will give you 2 days to post it.
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grouphug


Reminds me of a bunch of girls who can't go to the bathroom alone...




No, I have not seen the red V HOWEVER there is some weird things happening up there and I don't doubt for a second that some of them are infact seeing something that is NOT Venus, NOT con/chem trails, NOT comets etc


Remember when Pluto was a planet, Its still there, looks the same, it was Science that changed!!! Is there an app for that?


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Picture Review Rules and Decorum

1) Who will be the "lens flare" judges, because the shill standard of anything in the picture that I can't identify/explain is "lens flare" or "artifacts" will not suffice?

2) For pics with no other object in the sky (of course within "range" of camera view) as many accounts AND PREVIOUSLY, PERFECTLY WORKING sky apps say NOTHING else is around, how will we determine what object is being photographed?

3) If you hit the "lens flare" button, it will be incumbent upon YOU to provide proof of your claim by either:

Reproducing a similar picture with similar "lens flare"

OR

By finding and posting a picture with similar "lens flare"

I have several pics, and will continue to take more. Will post 1 at a time for review and dialogue. When these simple rules are broken, the pics get shut down.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


OK, this should be fun.

Link?
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Everyone give a big round of applause to Dr. Asstroll and his assistant, Geofagnetic Shill!

clappa
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What about a bigger round of applause to the tards that continue to dodge providing any worthwhile evidence, over and over again.

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2)You insulted members of this forum by saying they don't know how to use their own apps that they USED to be able to use OR they are lying. Wow, how convenient. Let me try, you and Astro do not know how to use telescopes and cameras OR you are lying. Which one is it?
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


And please note, you can’t seem to figure out how to use the GLP quote system. (notice how all your replies are at the top of the post)

How would it be in any way surprising that you couldn’t figure out how to use an Astronomy app?

 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


Darn, I don't work on here, so I don't use the quote system right...Thanks, Sethy. Is this any better? Is it on the bottom? Too bad you don't know how to read or follow a thread, as it was not I who uses an astronomy app? I follow things in the sky the old fashioned way...like the Sumerians, I guess.

 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


No but you seemed incredulous that I actually proposed that people might not be using their Astronomy apps correctly. Yet this has proven to be the case.

Here, this is from the other thread you are posting on.
“This is what I'm seeing.

I'll be getting better pics tonight.

I've used the google sky app, and Skeye app, but neither shows what this is.

[link to i.imgur.com]”


Said photo was quickly identified by Boxer as Venus, so the OP was definitely using both those apps wrong.
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That's a new one, I got neg karma BEFORE my above post and within minutes of simply giving positive vibes to two posters.

Oh you guys...



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Let me try, you and Astro do not know how to use telescopes and cameras OR you are lying. Which one is it?
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Alright, I've had enough of this. I have provided tons and tons of proof that I do know how to operate telescopes and astronomical cameras just fine. Where is there any evidence to the contrary? Making ridiculous claims like "my derpa derpa program shows that Mercury is up but not Venus right now" when Mercury currently sets before Venus shows that people are clearly having problems operating their own astronomy apps. Basic calculations can show you that Mercury sets before Venus after sunset right now. The only sensible conclusion is that certain tards on this thread don't know how to operate their apps properly, let alone know to calibrate their phone's compass before trying to use it to locate a planet they can't find simply by looking at a star chart.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Amazing.

Dr. Astro, can't you see you are under targeted attack? This poster isn't credible. No one real who has paid attention to you for any length of time has any doubt you've got the chops when it comes to this stuff.

You may be lying, but I don't believe it. I think you are very set in your thinking and not open to the possibility that a new phenomenon you don't know about is taking place in the sky.

These attacks have been forcing you to take ever more extreme positions, and causing you to be uncivil, something I never used to see from you. Remember the Russian meteor fiasco? For days or weeks you had been providing VERY detailed information about that close-approach asteroid, and guaranteeing people that it wouldn't hit us. Of course you were right it didn't hit us.

Then that same day, incredible coincidence, but not really given the idramatic increase we've seen in fireballs, a large, very dramatic, meteor hits Earth. Now of course you didn't say something else wasn't going to hit us, how could you? It was undetected until it hit. It didn't matter. The attacks against your credibility were unreal, irrational, and probably convinced a lot of the less astronomically-educated people to doubt you.

Anyway, that's just my opinion, I don't have any proof that these are coordinated, purposeful attacks, just like I don't have any proof you aren't lying. No proof, but the evidence does seem consistent with what I'm saying.

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The extreme crescent phase of Venus can be seen without a telescope by those with exceptionally acute eyesight, at the limit of human perception. The angular resolution of the naked eye is about 1 minute of arc. The apparent disk of Venus' extreme crescent measures between 60.2 and 66 seconds of arc,[3] depending on the distance from Earth. Nevertheless it is possible for observers with extremely acute eyesight to see a crescent Venus under ideal atmospheric circumstances.

Is this accurate? If so, what is being reported on this thread seems to challenge this. Please explain to the lay-folks, Astro, Geo, Boxer or my new buddy, Seth.

By the way, beware of Boxer, he posted "side by side" pics from a poster and from stellarium (sp). Except, he got called out for lying/manipulating images and the THREAD ENDED. Look it up.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Not sure about that, but it was Venus. You acknowledge that, right? I mean, it's pitch black, and there are plenty of stars visible to confirm that if it isn't Venus, it's sitting right on top of Venus.

This kind of stuff doesn't help us if our goal is to actually find out what the hell is going on with this phenomenon. We must diligently eliminate from consideration all known phenomenon to see what remains.

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The extreme crescent phase of Venus can be seen without a telescope by those with exceptionally acute eyesight, at the limit of human perception. The angular resolution of the naked eye is about 1 minute of arc. The apparent disk of Venus' extreme crescent measures between 60.2 and 66 seconds of arc,[3] depending on the distance from Earth. Nevertheless it is possible for observers with extremely acute eyesight to see a crescent Venus under ideal atmospheric circumstances.

Is this accurate? If so, what is being reported on this thread seems to challenge this. Please explain to the lay-folks, Astro, Geo, Boxer or my new buddy, Seth.

By the way, beware of Boxer, he posted "side by side" pics from a poster and from stellarium (sp). Except, he got called out for lying/manipulating images and the THREAD ENDED. Look it up.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Not sure about that, but it was Venus. You acknowledge that, right? I mean, it's pitch black, and there are plenty of stars visible to confirm that if it isn't Venus, it's sitting right on top of Venus.

This kind of stuff doesn't help us if our goal is to actually find out what the hell is going on with this phenomenon. We must diligently eliminate from consideration all known phenomenon to see what remains.

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Stop saying phenomenon LOL HAHAHAHA...its just chumps that got owned and refuse to admit it. CONTRAILS for most, VENUS for some, NIBIRU OR PLANET X for NONE...get over it man, it's over.
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That's a new one, I got neg karma BEFORE my above post and within minutes of simply giving positive vibes to two posters.

Oh you guys...



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 Quoting: MzTreeChick


Hmm...

You must of somehow disturbed the white noise that has been maintained almost uninterrupted for the last few pages. Minus shills this thread would probably only be 50 pages or so by now. Maybe less...

Try here; Thread: GLP Observation Campaign - Western Horizon Sunset Anomaly for the version with reduced static.
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I don't use Stellarium or any other sky app...Is the skyline "always generic trees" or can you pic "beach", "desert", etc.?

Can I ask why none of your "clique" explained this to the ignorant poster who pointed out the skyline deviations? Should I feel special that you explained HIS mistake to me, but not to him?

So wait for the apology? And cue up your apologies for all that the people who are lying about their sky app. Or the people who don't know how to use their sky app b/c somebody else in a different thread couldn't use their's. Fact remains, that people are reporting that their apps work FOR EVERYTHING else, but this object.

Your response was they are dumb or lying, but you want me to apologize to your cubicle butt-buddy...Very audacious of you.

Folks please go look at the thread about this SAME VERY SUBJECT/OBJECT...titled, "Re: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset"

You will see the thread ENDED on 10/8 when Boxer was photographically proven to be a FRAUD. The thread laid dormant for A WEEK, until today. I replied to the LAST poster and bumped them for exposing BoxerBoy.

Guess what happened, EXACTLY two people responded AFTER my post and Boxer call out...Guees who?

1) Boxer---Called me a tard, but did NOT explain his "side by side" fraudulent pics

2) Astro---Called me a kook

Coincidence, or have the shills been "ASSigned" to me? You all decide???
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Please explain how he got proven to be a fraud? Link me to where in that thread these claims were made....I'm waiting....
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


stopposting1
 Quoting: AlphA Canis Majoris


Really? Explain it then.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro
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quote:BoxerLvr:MV8yMzY5Njg5XzQwODA4NzU2X0M2Q0ZCRTNB]
LOL!

Where are the photos you promised 3rdEye?
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062



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Boxer, have we had sexual relations, because I have been gone for a couple of hours and you seem bothered. Had to work, drive home, spend time with my son, watch the end of the Tigers/Redsox, eat dinner, and about to take a dump...after that, I can get back on. Don't disappear, ok?

I want you to get some O.T. pay for this near 200 page thread about "Venus".
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Just for fun I have installed 3 different sky stars watch apps on my iphone, one to find comet ison. Each of them pointed me to a different location in the sky so I dont think they are accurate at all.
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Calling all expert "lens flare" photographers....The first picture is an ILLUSTRATION, it is not mine and not a photograph. I am posting it to set a standard that we will use later.

No commentary needed: I need anyone and everyone to produce/post any "lens flare" photographs that match, resemble, the illustrated picture here. I will then take the aforementioned dump (can send Sethy a PROOF PIC if necessary). After I get lil' 3rd Eye E to bed, I will post my 1st picture. But let's get those lens flare pics out in the open in the interim.

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:pokftg: WOW...This thread is starting to derail...
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Just for fun I have installed 3 different sky stars watch apps on my iphone, one to find comet ison. Each of them pointed me to a different location in the sky so I dont think they are accurate at all.
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Rumor has it that you are a dumb, German who can't use the app right. Just ask Astro and Sethy.

But don't kill yourself, because the rest of us think you are a smart, independent thinker who is just sharing some "odd" incident that many others are also experiencing.
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Just for fun I have installed 3 different sky stars watch apps on my iphone, one to find comet ison. Each of them pointed me to a different location in the sky so I dont think they are accurate at all.
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Rumor has it that you are a dumb, German who can't use the app right. Just ask Astro and Sethy.

But don't kill yourself, because the rest of us think you are a smart, independent thinker who is just sharing some "odd" incident that many others are also experiencing.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


If you are so confident in yourself, show some evidence from Amateur Astronomers. Show me some high detailed picture of their work. Like I said, take as long as you need to show me. If not, you are just a misinformation Shill.
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Just for fun I have installed 3 different sky stars watch apps on my iphone, one to find comet ison. Each of them pointed me to a different location in the sky so I dont think they are accurate at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48422195


Rumor has it that you are a dumb, German who can't use the app right. Just ask Astro and Sethy.

But don't kill yourself, because the rest of us think you are a smart, independent thinker who is just sharing some "odd" incident that many others are also experiencing.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


wut? I cant see shit in the sky other than the sun and moon and one fucking bright star that has always been there. I just wanted to see where comet ison is hiding right now so I got the apps and they all pointed me somewhere else where ison is supposed to be.
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meh, living in chem-trail soup here on the Eastern Slope (of the Rockies ... imagine a yellow shade of grey ... for the entire day ... don't think it got to forty ... you could feel it sucking the moisture out of everything ... freeze drying everything over night ... it actually rained yesterday - so this "cloud" is sticking around to soak it all up ... three more daze till we get Sunny again ... and it warms back up for the last two weeks of this month ...
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If this thread was'nt on to something Astro shill and his prodigy geo storm would'nt be shilling the hell out of it!!! Do not take anyone's word for anything until you have seen for yourself!!
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1st picture for review and analysis. Stick to what objects/things you see. What they are. Feel free to zoom or ask any questions about the picture. Don't be afraid to say I don't see anything, or all I see is the moon...but be careful, because upcoming pics may make you look like a shill, troll or dumb-ass.

Before we start the slide-show....Does anyone have any "lens flare" photographs that look like any of the "known planets", pluto, or the "winged planet"? If so, please share your flares.

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1st picture for review and analysis. Stick to what objects/things you see. What they are. Feel free to zoom or ask any questions about the picture. Don't be afraid to say I don't see anything, or all I see is the moon...but be careful, because upcoming pics may make you look like a shill, troll or dumb-ass.

Before we start the slide-show....Does anyone have any "lens flare" photographs that look like any of the "known planets", pluto, or the "winged planet"? If so, please share your flares.

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 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


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