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There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!!

 
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Well the fact that Astromut and Geo Bitch are still here means this object must be legitimate b/c they don't have any credibility as anything other than disinformation agents.
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Prove it.
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This is horrendous, truly sickening to behold.

:omhjhzzzz:

Still, at least we are learning SOMETHING.

We are, are'nt we?????
 Quoting: SUROH4711


I am finding this disturbing...More so each day...:1mxxd:
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Well the fact that Astromut and Geo Bitch are still here means this object must be legitimate b/c they don't have any credibility as anything other than disinformation agents. It's a PIA to have to scroll over their troll droppings all over this thread.
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Yeah, they sure were wrong about Elenin.

Oh, wait. No they weren't.
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Man, it's tough, but here is a better picture and I do have more, but understand the resolution is fine on the camera and when saved and viewed with a real pic viewer...The degradation comes when you import to these bullshit free image hosting sites.

Pic #4, it's getting better now.

[link to imageshack.us]

 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Are you posting a picture of a lens/filter flare that you will later compare with another photo?

This isn't your object is it?
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062



I think it is. They have gone from Venus, to Contrails, to Lens/Filter flares. That 3rd eye guy is trolling this thread hard. Almost like he is trying to run everyone off with his stupidity....hmmm.
It is precisely because it is fashionable for Americans to know no science, even though they may be well educated otherwise, that they so easily fall prey to nonsense. They thus become part of the armies of the night, the purveyors of nitwittery, the retailers of intellectual junk food, the feeders on mental cardboard, for their ignorance keeps them from distinguishing nectar from sewage. — Isaac Asimov
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Chew on this.

Go to site in5d and scroll down to story "Unknown Glowing UFO In Evening Western Sky - Starship? Comet? Nibiru? Hercolubus?".

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Last Edited by SpellBinder on 10/16/2013 02:51 PM
It has been said that there is more to the truth than just the facts and you can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.

F.E.A.R...False Evidence Appearing Real.. Designed to keep you in place an thats exactly what it will do if you let it.

Great things are done by a series of small things brought together.
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Quit speading lies. learn something about astronomy




You this time, thanks doc.
(Edit) Ahh you are a team, thanks, not that i needed confirmation.


Pathetic.

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Well the fact that Astromut and Geo Bitch are still here means this object must be legitimate b/c they don't have any credibility as anything other than disinformation agents. It's a PIA to have to scroll over their troll droppings all over this thread.
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I am sure you are the misinformation Shill spreading lies here.
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Chew on this.

Go to site in5d and scroll down to story "Unknown Glowing UFO In Evening Western Sky - Starship? Comet? Nibiru? Hercolubus?".

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You really need to go to that website, they have really good pictures of the object that is being seen by all, definitely not a contrail.

Last Edited by SpellBinder on 10/16/2013 02:57 PM
It has been said that there is more to the truth than just the facts and you can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.

F.E.A.R...False Evidence Appearing Real.. Designed to keep you in place an thats exactly what it will do if you let it.

Great things are done by a series of small things brought together.
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Chew on this.

Go to site in5d and scroll down to story "Unknown Glowing UFO In Evening Western Sky - Starship? Comet? Nibiru? Hercolubus?".

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Thank you.
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[link to www.youtube.com]
It has been said that there is more to the truth than just the facts and you can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.

F.E.A.R...False Evidence Appearing Real.. Designed to keep you in place an thats exactly what it will do if you let it.

Great things are done by a series of small things brought together.
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Just opened the pic-sharing account...Let's establish some basic FACTS about using lay equipment to photograph objects in the sky/space.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


How about an apology to Boxer first. You called him a fraud due to your "lack of understanding". (I'm being nice)

You seem to just skip over all your mistakes as if nothing happened. Why is that?
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062



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It is precisely because it is fashionable for Americans to know no science, even though they may be well educated otherwise, that they so easily fall prey to nonsense. They thus become part of the armies of the night, the purveyors of nitwittery, the retailers of intellectual junk food, the feeders on mental cardboard, for their ignorance keeps them from distinguishing nectar from sewage. — Isaac Asimov
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Look forget the quotes...I want ANSWERS or LINKS.

You mentioned the "Google Sky De-bunk STUDY", but KEEP posting the link to SOME image of the "missing data".
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE

Not so "missing" is it? All that was required was to go straight to the primary source for the data. I gave that link as well:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
And here is the result of grabbing the data from those coordinates:
[link to imageshack.us]
Here are the FACTS until YOU prove otherwise:

NASA Shill David Morrison DOES NOT mention your study. PERIOD.
 Quoting: 3rdeye

Of course he doesn't mention my processing of the sky survey data. Why would he? That is such an obvious red herring I can't even begin to imagine what kind of idiot would fall for it. What he does mention in the sky survey itself and the fact that google is using that, google is not producing live images themselves. Anyone can go straight to the sky survey and get the data for the "missing region" themselves.
You have provided ZERO photographic, video, or even "homemmade" text EVIDENCE that Mr. Morrison has even heard of your study.
 Quoting: 3rdeye

Again, another red herring. I never said a damn thing about Morrison hearing about "my study." What I said is that he didn't disagree with me. You claimed his answer disagreed with mine. It did not. It reaffirmed what I said, even if it didn't go into as much detail, even if he didn't go to the trouble of presenting the "missing region" himself.
So I win on THIS factual point until you PRODUCE.
 Quoting: 3rdeye

Your "factual point" is a red herring.
Got it BitchBoy--yeah, I can cuss too even when I'm WINNING.
 Quoting: 3rdeye

Danth's law. All you have done is throw out a red herring. I presented the "missing region" from Google sky. You claimed to be winning, but like most Danth's law violators, you have lost. Badly.
So for the LAST time, link to the study you gave multiple names/explanations to OR kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP.
 Quoting: 3rdeye

Holy shit, are you substituting the word "study" for "sky survey?" Are you that stupid? Morrison specifically mentioned the sky survey by name, the Palomar sky survey, aka POSS2/UKSTU! It's right here dumbass:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
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Just opened the pic-sharing account...Let's establish some basic FACTS about using lay equipment to photograph objects in the sky/space.
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How about an apology to Boxer first. You called him a fraud due to your "lack of understanding". (I'm being nice)

You seem to just skip over all your mistakes as if nothing happened. Why is that?
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:bigbump:
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The plot thickens...wow
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I didn't call anybody dumb. I said people can misuse these apps. His report confirms what I said.
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No, your buddies called him dumb, but you are lying right now...His reports does not CONFIRM that he is misusing the app. His report is the app is malfunctioning. Can you prove that the app is NOT malfunctioning? Only in shill world does "App isn't accurate" = "I don't know how to use my app"
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This actually demonstrates what several of us have said. If he has three sky apps and none of them agree, then it shows that people are indeed having difficulty using them for whatever reason. So if someone says that they pointed said app at said object and it didn't show up as Venus, then that doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't Venus.

This isn't that hard to understand.
 Quoting: Setheory 41894184


^^This.

I was not misusing the apps. I have geo location enabled on my iphone and it works perfect for navigation. Then I installed the 3 sky watch apps, did callibrate them and pointed them at the same star, each app giving me a "slightly" different position, "slightly" meaning it was basically facing the right and same direction, but it was still off by a few centimeters, which is then showing a totally different star/constellation. So if two of the three apps would have shown the same, I would trust them to work but since none of the three agreed, I don't know which one is working. I deleted them all.
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That must have been frustrating.
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Chew on this.

Go to site in5d and scroll down to story "Unknown Glowing UFO In Evening Western Sky - Starship? Comet? Nibiru? Hercolubus?".

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 Quoting: SpellBinder


You really need to go to that website, they have really good pictures of the object that is being seen by all, definitely not a contrail.
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I think all of that info is based on this very thread and this very thread only, someone should make a comparison of wording in sighting reports and embedded vids.

Just a thought, may be coincedence or i may be wrong.
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No, I am not. Show where I lied.
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I am curious, what credentials do you have to be presenting yourself as a Dr.?
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Still looking for an answer to this as it would certainly be dishonest and a lie to present yourself as a doctor if you are not truly one.
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I have a PhD in a scientific field. No, I'm not going to give away my real life identity just to prove it to you. Those who I trust know me and they know I am telling the truth.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Fair enough, thank you for the response.
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The plot thickens...wow
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Yeah, wow, a bright star or planet. Gee, there aren't ANY bright stars or planets in the west right now, are there? Do tell me Blue, how does this "thicken" the plot at all? He doesn't show any wide views with other stars in the view which could be used to astrometrically solve it, so we're left to guess where exactly this is in the sky. "West" is awfully vague and leaves a number of likely candidates. And that's before we start making ridiculous assumptions that there is some bright naked eye star or planet visible in the west that amateur astronomers have not noticed, discovered, and screamed about. Yet somehow idiots on youtube with no idea how to properly measure the position of this thing, have in fact discovered something that EVERY competent amateur astronomer out there would instantly notice. To use a word you like to use, that would be "impossible."

Again, I invite you to join me at Chiefland astronomy village this year for the fall star party in two weeks. I'll be there Thursday through Sunday along with many other amateur astronomers, each one armed with extremely powerful equipment.


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This is horrendous, truly sickening to behold.

:omhjhzzzz:

Still, at least we are learning SOMETHING.

We are, are'nt we?????
 Quoting: SUROH4711


I am finding this disturbing...More so each day...:1mxxd:
 Quoting: Settle4It


Hi Settle4it, :6tgbhnj:
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yep, it is thisbutt
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Oh this thread is really fun to watch... muahapopcorn
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3rd eye.. really nice job you are doing. May I please have your email, I would like to see the pics for myself. :) Thanks in advance
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Just opened the pic-sharing account...Let's establish some basic FACTS about using lay equipment to photograph objects in the sky/space.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


How about an apology to Boxer first. You called him a fraud due to your "lack of understanding". (I'm being nice)

You seem to just skip over all your mistakes as if nothing happened. Why is that?
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Still waiting for that apology.
It is precisely because it is fashionable for Americans to know no science, even though they may be well educated otherwise, that they so easily fall prey to nonsense. They thus become part of the armies of the night, the purveyors of nitwittery, the retailers of intellectual junk food, the feeders on mental cardboard, for their ignorance keeps them from distinguishing nectar from sewage. — Isaac Asimov
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Let me make it clear for you:

Motherfucker, I went to your "link"...Astro Bullshit. We are discussing why the data was cropped out--That's it.

I want a link where ANYBODY states that the SURVEY/STUDY is the reason for the missing data. I've watched the Morrison video several times.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE

You don't even get it. The reason for the missing data is NOT the "survey/study." And it's a SKY SURVEY. The data is NOT missing from the sky survey, THAT is the point! It's only missing from google's sky mosaic which they made by using the sky survey data. Google Sky is a secondary source and should NOT be used as a primary source. If you find something wrong or missing with the secondary source, you should check the primary source. If you had you would have seen there was nothing missing from it. I gave you links to both the primary source and an image of the "missing region" I made from the data downloaded direct from the primary source.
You know a NEWS link....Missing Data from S.O.P. Astro Study causes urban legend.
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That's not even what I said you fucking idiot liar. It's NOT missing from the goddamn sky survey!
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3rd eye.. really nice job you are doing.
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Oh really? Then explain why I had no problem finding the "missing data" from the same sky survey google sky used. Explain it.
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3rd eye.. really nice job you are doing.
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Oh really? Then explain why I had no problem finding the "missing data" from the same sky survey google sky used. Explain it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Now you are really defensive astro.

1. I was not talking to you. 2. I was not referring to that AT all.

hmmm interesting... feeling threatened are you? Cracks beginning to appear in the facade.... Oops!
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Confession Time:

I have not been participating fairly as my buddies don't know who they are PROFESSIONALLY dealing with...and that isn't fair. With that, here's what I can share:

1)I have worked in the neuroscience/brain-training field for 9+ years

2)I attended one of the "Best Public Universities" in the United States of America

3) I have officiated Men's Basketball at some of the highest levels in the world (NCAA Men's Division I and National Basketball Association) since 1999. This is only relevant because eyesight, discernment, ability to adjudicate, VIDEO an Photo review are critical in this field.
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Then how in the wide world of sports could you not understand that Stellarium cannot magically sense the “real skyline” of its user or a comparative photo and incorporate it into its “simulated” skyline? My twelve year old could figure that out.


Thread: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset (Page 2)

You know, the thread where you called Boxer a fraud.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


Another LIE, I have NEVER use Stellarium (neithr did the Sumerians), so how/why would I know you can make fake skylines. In fact I asked your BITCH ASS if the "skylines" are "default"...(i.e. could boxer have "chosen"/"selected" no skyline, desert horizon, ocean horizon, OR "trees at night to make a picture appear to match". Seems to be relevant. Did you answer? NOPE.

And you dumb, arrogant, BITCH...to think I didn't understand the concept is HILARIOUS. Here's my PROOF I do:

When I was REALLY little and young, BEFORE AIRPLANES at D.C. National made CLOUDS, before there were PERPENDICULAR (to the earth's horizon that it) clouds...I'm 44, so do the math...Anyhow, when we took school pictures in 2nd grade there was a horse and wagon behind me (in the picture). In third grade, same picture, but there was a daisy field behind me. So to be clear, you haven't explained ANYTHING that I have not understood. If you don't understand the difference between "never used it, don't care" vs. don't understand how it works, then your the dumb ass.

Analogy for assholes: Have NEVER used a blow-dryer, so I don't know if they have 2, 3, or 4 speeds/temps, but I understand they work like you--BLOW HOT FUCKING AIR.

BITCH, where's my "STUDY" link, AstroHO?
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


rofl

This guy takes the cake for pathetic troll.

stfu
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3rd eye.. really nice job you are doing.
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Oh really? Then explain why I had no problem finding the "missing data" from the same sky survey google sky used. Explain it.
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Now you are really defensive astro.

1. I was not talking to you. 2. I was not referring to that AT all.

hmmm interesting... feeling threatened are you? Cracks beginning to appear in the facade.... Oops!
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Then what are you referring to?
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Third eye getting you lot all flustered. He's getting to you.. crawling under your skin. Making you really have to work.

I like it. ;)
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Confession Time:

I have not been participating fairly as my buddies don't know who they are PROFESSIONALLY dealing with...and that isn't fair. With that, here's what I can share:

1)I have worked in the neuroscience/brain-training field for 9+ years

2)I attended one of the "Best Public Universities" in the United States of America

3) I have officiated Men's Basketball at some of the highest levels in the world (NCAA Men's Division I and National Basketball Association) since 1999. This is only relevant because eyesight, discernment, ability to adjudicate, VIDEO an Photo review are critical in this field.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Then how in the wide world of sports could you not understand that Stellarium cannot magically sense the “real skyline” of its user or a comparative photo and incorporate it into its “simulated” skyline? My twelve year old could figure that out.


Thread: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset (Page 2)

You know, the thread where you called Boxer a fraud.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


Another LIE, I have NEVER use Stellarium (neithr did the Sumerians), so how/why would I know you can make fake skylines. In fact I asked your BITCH ASS if the "skylines" are "default"...(i.e. could boxer have "chosen"/"selected" no skyline, desert horizon, ocean horizon, OR "trees at night to make a picture appear to match". Seems to be relevant. Did you answer? NOPE.

And you dumb, arrogant, BITCH...to think I didn't understand the concept is HILARIOUS. Here's my PROOF I do:

When I was REALLY little and young, BEFORE AIRPLANES at D.C. National made CLOUDS, before there were PERPENDICULAR (to the earth's horizon that it) clouds...I'm 44, so do the math...Anyhow, when we took school pictures in 2nd grade there was a horse and wagon behind me (in the picture). In third grade, same picture, but there was a daisy field behind me. So to be clear, you haven't explained ANYTHING that I have not understood. If you don't understand the difference between "never used it, don't care" vs. don't understand how it works, then your the dumb ass.

Analogy for assholes: Have NEVER used a blow-dryer, so I don't know if they have 2, 3, or 4 speeds/temps, but I understand they work like you--BLOW HOT FUCKING AIR.

BITCH, where's my "STUDY" link, AstroHO?
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


LOL! You are going to act like you understood it now?

You directed people to that thread because you thought that Boxer had created fake imagery. You said it was proof he was a fraud. That wasn’t true. You did that because you were unable to understand a simple concept. Additionally, you were unable to even admit it or apologize. You just move on under the mistaken assumption that people did not notice or will quickly forget.


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